ipv6 gif0
Hi! I have a problem with setting up my IPv6 box. Scripts are ok, and gifs are made but only one works. The one I start first works and others dont, doesnt matter wich one is first, but all other that follow link on the first one. I allready had a box like this one, and everything worked perfectly (had 4 gifs with ipv6). When i reistalled (same version of freebsd, same pc) this problem ocured. The only thing that changed is that I used Cabel connection before (no extra settings, just enterd IP), and now I use ADSL (PPPoE, NAT enabled). So maybe this could be a problem ? I'm kinda new to this system but I allready search for bugs/errors that I could made and I didnt find anything. So now I'm writeing this email to you, because I dont know how to fix this. I thank you for you help/replay! Lp, Jernej ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Updating openssl
I presently have the base version of 'openssl' installed. If I wanted to install the ports' version, is there anything special I have to do? I presently have: WITH_OPENSSL_BASE=yes in the /etc/make.conf file. I assume I should remove that prior to build the port. Does the port version replace the base version or do I have to do anything else? Thanks! -- Jerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] A beginning is the time for taking the most delicate care that balances are correct. Princess Irulan, Manual of Maud'Dib signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: GCC help
On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:26:40 +0100 Bruce Cran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Can't you set $CC to gcc44 or whatever to make the ports system use a different version of gcc? UNTESTED: in /etc/make.conf file: CC=/usr/local/bin/gcc44 -- Jerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] It doesn't matter whether you win or lose -- until you lose. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: samba - vista problems
On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:39:16 +0200 (CEST) Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello! I have some problems with my samba/vista os I can't log on from my pc to the samba, it says every time that there is a password/user problem, I tried to retype almost 50 times the user/pass, to change it but it don't works. do you ever meet this problem? no - i don't use windows, for users i strongly recommend not using vista. That was not the question the OP asked. anyway - it's not FreeBSD related problem, samba is not FreeBSD specific. If the OP is using SAMBA in a FreeBSD environment, then it is most certainly a FBSD related problem. try windows support and samba related mailing lists! In which case, if their users are as closed minded as you appear to be, they will refer the OP to the FreeBSD and/or Samba mailing list, depending on which list he contacts. -- Jerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life's tough ... it is even tougher if you are stupid. John Wayne signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: MTA on non-standard port
, they basically turn their cheek and ignore any sort of mistake or mishap. The fact that I cannot convince my ISP that I am a responsible Netizen is disheartening -- I should not need a business class connection to justify my responsibility. I hope the experience with your ISP is better than mine. Good luck. I had a similar experience with Comcast. After speaking with their representatives and getting nowhere, I got the representatives to give me their ID #'s, something they have to do by law anyway, and then filed a protest with the 'Public Service Commission' in New York State. Within five days I had both the Comcast and PS Commission reps talking to me. Long story, Comcast backed down. The PS commission said that Comcast could issue a system wide regulation if they wanted, and in fact they are in the process of doing that right now; however, they could not just single me out without supplying me with the requested information. Further more, they are now requiring SMTP AUTH on 587. While that may not be RFC required, I really see no reason to complain about it. Actually, it is probably a good idea if it helps contain the spread of SPAM. However, at least in my case, both inbound and outbound port 25 traffic is open. -- Jerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's kind of fun to do the impossible. -- Walt Disney signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Marvell 88E8052 PCI-E LAN on FreeBSD 7.0
On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:15:04 +0100 (CET) Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I discovered that adding -txcsum and -rxcsum (i.e. disabling hardware checksuming) to the ifconfig statement, the performance was as quick as it is on that other OS! there is a lot of buggy chips produced today. normally the should go to thrash, but - what a problem - they put onto motherboards so user have no choice. then they include windoze drivers that simply disable non-working features and they are happy, not even telling anyone about this. Not technically correct. If you go into 'Control Panel' and access the correct logs you will see what has transpired when the driver was loaded. Most Window users do not want to be bothered with the details of what happened; they just want it to work (actually, not a bad concept). Think about it; if Microsoft actually displayed by default all error messages they or the OEM would probably be inundated with frivolous requests for support. unless you are buying motherboard for servers, DO NOT expect lan to work ;) it's my common practice. nvidia ethernet was the worst one (it never worked), but realtek gigabit ethernet on other motherboard needed the same as yours (-txcsum, -rxcsum) or it randomly drop packets, probably because it calculates checksums wrong. I had a friend who used nvidia. They never complained about it. I will see if I can find out what model and how they got it to work. -- Jerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] semper en excretus signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Is KDE4 usable on FreeBSD?
On Mon, 3 Nov 2008 12:38:30 -0400 Thomas Abthorpe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I submit to the court of pulic opinion that KDE4 *IS* stable on FreeBSD. I would encourage you to check out the following resources Stable != Usable -- Jerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] My own business always bores me to death; I prefer other people's. Oscar Wilde signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: recommendation word processer for xfce
On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 16:28:00 -0700 Chad Perrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: . . . or, as someone else pointed out, one could just learn to scroll to the end before typing. It's not that difficult -- even in Outlook. CTRLEND works like a charm also. It is amazing what people will bitch at. The same people who will spend days attempting to get a video card fully functional will find placing the cursor at the end of an email message too daunting of a task. -- Jerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sex discriminates against the shy and ugly. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: recommendation word processer for xfce
On Sat, 8 Nov 2008 16:40:13 + RW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Some people argue that the cursor should start-off at the top because you should start by removing superfluous quoted text before bottom posting. If only that were true. -- Jerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did you know that for the price of a 280-Z you can buy two Z-80's? P. J. Plauger signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Port Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator for FreeBSD?
On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 13:43:25 +1000 Da Rock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you're up to it its ok, but you do have to wonder whether you really want cross contamination :), or even whether you want to support a company that stubbornly refuses to consider OSS as a system it will build it software for. I would not necessarily blame the company. There are several programs that I use on Windows, Roboform as one example. I have contacted the company and was informed that producing a version that would work on all versions of *nix was beyond the scope of what they could presently do. In addition, they felt that since most OSS users do not want to pay for software, there would be no way to recuperate their investment. I have the full blown version of Photoshop and quite frankly I have not seen anything from the OSS community that compares to it. The program works and has a very finely designed interface. Gimp is fine for basic things; however for more finely granular work it just does not measure up. Just my 2¢. -- Jerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Where it is a duty to worship the sun it is pretty sure to be a crime to examine the laws of heat. Christopher Morley signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: root /etc/csh
On Wed, 12 Nov 2008 08:06:16 +0100 Polytropon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Especially in Linux, it's common to prefix scripts with #!/bin/bash which won't work in FreeBSD, because it's #/usr/local/bin/bash there. Linux has no problem running #!/bin/sh scripts because there's a symlink /bin/sh - /bin/bash. My advice for maximum interoperability and compatibility between Linux and UNIX: If you're not using any bash specific techniques in your scripts, start them with #!/bin/sh instead of #!/bin/bash. The sh shell is the UNIX standard scripting shell, while Linux's one is bash. I usually just use: #!/usr/bin/env bash It seems to work on both Linux and FBSD. -- Jerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] His life was formal; his actions seemed ruled with a ruler. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: port upgrade problem: libncurses.so.5.6 not found
On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:41:25 -0500 Tsu-Fan Cheng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what would happen if I don't compile ports all over again? will my system crash? I believe that the total stability of your system might be jeopardized. Personally, I use 'portmanager' to force an update of all my installed ports. After updating your ports tree, using 'portmanager -u -f -y -l' will update everything in the correct order. If you have 'java' installed, make sure you download the required files prior to starting the update procedure. -- Jerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] There are two kinds of pedestrians... the quick and the dead. Lord Thomas Rober Dewar signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: root /etc/csh
On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 09:44:28 +0100 Ruben de Groot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Well, the link is created automatically by the port, so you should never have had to modify any 'shebang' # ls -l `which perl` lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 24 Nov 27 2007 /usr/bin/perl - /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.8 I am not talking about installing from ports; but rather, Perl scripts that I have downloaded from various sites. These inevitably have the setting for Perl wrong for a FreeBSD system. By the way, on my system, the output is slightly different. ~ $ ls -l `which perl` -rwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 9536 May 3 2008 /usr/local/bin/perl* -- Jerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] The streets are safe in Philadelphia, it's only the people who make them unsafe. Mayor Frank Rizzo signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Segmentation fault (core dumped)
On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 22:52:07 + Marwan Sultan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I know what you are talking about.. What is the output of the command php -v ? any errors? I have been have a similar problem lately. ~ $ php -v PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20060613/sqlite.so' - /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/sqlite.so: Undefined symbol spl_ce_Countable in Unknown on line 0 PHP 5.2.6 with Suhosin-Patch 0.9.6.2 (cli) (built: Nov 21 2008 20:45:19) Copyright (c) 1997-2008 The PHP Group Zend Engine v2.2.0, Copyright (c) 1998-2008 Zend Technologies Segmentation fault: 11 (core dumped) I have been trying to correct it without results. -- Jerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your lover will never wish to leave you. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Segmentation fault (core dumped)
On Sun, 23 Nov 2008 21:33:47 +
Marwan Sultan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello Jerry,
Its easy to fix, as they advised.
Check the file file extensions.ini which is
in /usr/local/etc/php/extensions.ini
You will see your php modules, for some reasons the loading order of
PHP modules it needs to be changed .. You can do the follow..and its
for bignners..but saves you the headech.
Comment first line with - #
save and exitnow see the output of php -v
if the error exist (which will for the first 10 lines maybe)
repeat again for next line..and same untill you see no error of the
php -v
When you findout the modulethat cusing your problem...move it to the
top of the list of modules (top of the file) save and exit...and your
done.. please write for me back which module in your case cused the
problem.
Out of experince.. SHMOP, READLINE, RECODE, SOAP, SNMP could cuuse
your problem
The first problem was easy to fix, I just rebuilt sqlite.so
{databases/php-sqlite}; however, PHP still crashed. I discovered
through trial and error that the problem was with pspell.so. I
rebuilt that port but the problem continued. I then rebuilt 'aspell'
and then rebuilt the 'pspell' port and the problem disappeared.
I wasted several hours getting to the bottom of this problem. There
must be a better way.
By the way, I though that ';' was the symbol to use to comment out a
line in extensions.ini rather than '#'.
--
Jerry
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Re: Log capturing program
On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 14:42:53 -0500 Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: skx([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2008.11.21 23:56:52 +0100: I need a log capturing program, like WallWatcher, to run on my FreeBSD box and capture logs from a router running Tomato. Some analyzing features would be nice. Could you recommend something? What's Tomato? Start here: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Tomato_Firmware -- Jerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Old age is always fifteen years old than I am. B. Baruch signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Vishnu is out of the office.
On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:31:04 +0800 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will be out of the office starting 12/01/2008 and will not return until 12/12/2008. Please contact helpdesk directly for urgent matters at 043854184. Cool, I think I will contact them and inform them that your OoO responder is incorrectly configured. -- Jerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] In America, any boy may become president and I suppose that's just one of the risks he takes. Adlai Stevenson signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: openldap24-sasl-client conflicts
On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 09:01:09 -0500 Robert Fitzpatrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems this always gets me when setting up a new machine and I've haven't been able to stop it from happening. I install openldap-server WITH_SASL and after that point, if I try to install any package with LDAP support, it tries to install openldap-client when openldap-sasl-client is already there and conflicts as shown below. What do I need to do to keep this from happening? --- Installing the new version via the port === Installing for openldap-sasl-client-2.4.11 === openldap-sasl-client-2.4.11 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/libcrypto.so.5 - found === Generating temporary packing list === Checking if net/openldap24-client already installed === openldap-sasl-client-2.4.11 is already installed You may wish to ``make deinstall'' and install this port again by ``make reinstall'' to upgrade it properly. If you really wish to overwrite the old port of net/openldap24-client without deleting it first, set the variable FORCE_PKG_REGISTER in your environment or the make install command line. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/net/openldap24-client. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/net/openldap24-client. ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa /tmp/portinstall.54161.0 env make reinstall ** Fix the installation problem and try again. --- Skipping 'net/nss_ldap' because a requisite port 'net/openldap24-client' failed (specify -k to force) --- Skipping 'security/pam_ldap' because a requisite port 'net/openldap24-client' failed (specify -k to force) ** Listing the failed packages (-:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed) ! net/openldap24-client (install error) * net/nss_ldap * security/pam_ldap I am assuming that you are attempting to install the port(s) manually. Have you tried using a port management tool like 'portmanager' or 'portupgrade' to handle the task. -- Jerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hoffer's Discovery: The grand act of a dying institution is to issue a newly revised, enlarged edition of the policies and procedures manual. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Uninstalling kde3 meta-port
On Tue, 02 Dec 2008 08:38:02 +0100 Leslie Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How would you guys uninstall a meta-port? I'm considering a move to kde4 but I want a clean install, so I want to remove the kde3 meta-port first. Well, you might try navigating to the kde3 port /usr/ports/x11/kde3 and running: make deinstall. Alternately, you could try running something like 'pkg_delete'; i.e.: pkg_delete -vdf kde-3.5.10. -- Jerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Everybody wants to go to heaven, but nobody wants to die. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Performance benchmarks pitting FreeBSD against Windows
On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 13:11:22 +0100 (CET) Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: tools like bonnie++, blogbench and postmark under cygwin and the results are abysmal. It might be due to cygwin, and it might not. I've used rather not. all cygwin do is wrapping calls like read, lseek, open, write, close to windoze calls. Windows Enterprise Server 2003. You'll probably not find any difference in computational (numeric) tasks unless microsoft is intentionally slowing down all programs or some of them to show adventage of their programs. no i'm not joking. it's not just possible, i'm fairly certain they do it. Slightly paranoid aren't we? It reminds me of an article I read several years ago in which the author claimed that all Virus and Malware/Trojans were being written by Linux users in an attempt to discredit Microsoft and then start charging for the use of their software in a fashion consistent with Microsoft. He went on to claim that 'open-sore' authors would reap windfall profits. Of course, like you, he offered no concrete evidence, just idle speculation. In any case, due to the multitude of flavors of *.nix and Windows machines, in addition to the thousands of possible configurations, systems, etc., getting a truly meaningful comparison would be a monumental undertaking. In any event, it would be obsolete before you ever finished it. -- Jerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fortune's Office Door Sign of the Week: Incorrigible punster -- Do not incorrige. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors
On Sun, 7 Dec 2008 09:40:46 +0100 (CET) Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: manufacturers of hardware. More recently there were times when anybody from because managers/bosses concentrate on majority, not minority of users. That is plain good business sense. As Willy Sutton once remarked to a reporter, Mitch Ohnstad, who asked why he robbed banks by saying, because that's where the money is. manufacturers did not notice Linux. However now it is possible to find a few given out put normal OS - their list is at us on a site and then we will i recommend you to find normal shop to buy hardware, that allow you to fully test computer before buying. Obvious, if you are buying a custom built unit. Maybe, even if you buying a generic unit. if you think there are larger (even hundreds means larger) start selling FreeBSD compatible computers in your area! You could make money on that, many people will easily spend 100$ more for computer that is already tested 100% FreeBSD compatible. All you have to do is to test/check lots of different parts of hardware if it actually work with FreeBSD fine, and make computers from that parts. The problem with the business design is what do you do if a customer wants a specific hardware device that FreeBSD does not support. The changes of that happening in Linux are much less, and with Windows, virtually never at all. IMHO, before FreeBSD can make a significant market share improvement, it has to improve its hardware support. NVidia, for one, has expressed a desire to support FreeBSD; however, it needs the FreeBSD organization to improve its basic product, especially in the 64-bit systems, which are the future of computing. -- Jerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] There are ten or twenty basic truths, and life is the process of discovering them over and over and over. David Nichols signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: bashrc configuration question: syntax error: unexpected end of file
On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 13:28:11 -0800
Noah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi there,
I am unable to figure out why I am getting the following error:
-bash: /Users/user/.bashrc: line 10: syntax error: unexpected end of
file localhost:~ user$
Here are the relevant hask configuration files --
localhost:~ user$ cat .bash_profile
if [ -f ~/.bashrc ]; then
source ~/.bashrc
fi
localhost:~ user$ cat .bashrc
#nc_fix() { sudo kill -9 $(ps auxwww | grep [nN]cproxyd | awk '{print
$2}') }
nc_fix() { sudo kill -9 $(ps auxwww | grep [nN]cproxyd | awk '{print
$2}') }
# enable programmable completion features (you don't need to enable
# this, if it's already enabled in /etc/bash.bashrc and /etc/profile
# sources /etc/bash.bashrc).
if [ -f /etc/bash_completion ]; then
. /etc/bash_completion
fi
localhost:~ user$
--- snip ---
I once had a similar problem; however the line number given had nothing
to do with where the actual error was. In my case, I had a duplicate
';' I believe located in the file. You will probably have to go through
the file line by line to locate the problem. Perhaps commenting out
sections and seeing if the problem continues might help.
--
Jerry
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It destroys one's nerves to be amiable every day to the same human
being. -- Benjamin Disraeli
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Re: How to block NIS logins via ssh?
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 09:11:26 +0100 Mel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 11 December 2008 08:10:09 Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: Given, there's several solutions to this: 1) The Kluge as above. 2) A pam module to check /etc/group (this is standard login behavior, and historically supported, and available on other platforms, adding a module, even to ports, is trivial. 3) A patch to openssh to do /etc/shells checking (I'll note that openSSH has the UseLogin option, which may also do this. 4) An option to pam_unix to check this. Differs from #2 in that it's a change to an existing module instead of one in ports. 5) Use AllowGroups/AllowUsers and/or their Deny equivalent in sshd_config. 6) Disable password based logins and use keys only. Personally, I have always used 'keys' instead of passwords. Given enough time and resources, any password can be cracked. I really do not understand why so many users insist on using passwords anyway. -- Jerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] A sadist is a masochist who follows the Golden Rule. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:28:00 +0100 (CET) Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: in bells and whistles windows is best. for those who require it paying a bit for windows is not a problem. Those who need to do actual work, we have FreeBSD for example Define: 'Actual Work'? What you are referring to is that it meets your criteria. Everyone's work platform might not be so narrow. I use FreeBSD for may things; however, it is by no means a perfect system. There are just too many things that either don't work, or don't work well. As we are migrating to 64-bit systems here, I can see FreeBSD playing an even smaller part in our corporate picture. -- Jerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Usually, when a lot of men get together, it's called a war. Mel Brooks, The Listener signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 14:58:02 +0100 Bernt Hansson be...@bah.homeip.net wrote: Julien Cigar skrev: On Fri, 2008-12-12 at 00:23 +0100, Bernt Hansson wrote: Julien Cigar said the following on 2008-12-11 14:40: - Altough ports are fantastic, building things like OpenOffice or ... is just inhuman, especially when you cannot use -j for building ports (but it's being resolved I think). Of course you can use -j to build ports. Just cd to/your/port make -j8 install (clean) With portupgrade you use -m -j8 I'm not sure about this, as there is just a project in titled Allowing for parallel builds in the FreeBSD Ports on http://www.freebsd.org/projects/summerofcode-2008.html ... ? Every time I tried to build a port with -j it failed .. From todays portupgrade -aiR -m -j8 Building '/usr/ports/textproc/asciidoc' with make flags: -j8 This entire thread has really gotten OT. Maybe it is time to close it. -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com Remember, drive defensively! And of course, the best defense is a good offense! signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Double Posts
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 08:38:17 -0500 Gary Hartl gha...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone have any clue what I would be getting two of every message posted to the group? It started yesterday and nothing has changed on my end (that I am aware of) I'm using outlook 2008, picking up from gmail. Thanks Gary Consider yourself lucky. I have been reading horror stories on the GMail forum regarding users losing email. In any event, if it just started and you did not change MUAs, it is almost guaranteed to be a Google (GMail) problem. By the way, are you using IMAP or POP? -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com Old musicians never die, they just decompose. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 13:35:46 -0500 Michael Powell nightre...@verizon.net wrote: My reservation to the 3D driver thing is it is setting a very dangerous precedent if the solution involves allowing a third party commercial enterprise to dictate features FreeBSD must include before they will support it. In this case with NVidia and the amd64 3D driver let's say for sake of argument the developers decide we want the amd64 3D driver so let's go ahead and add in abc_function() and xyz_function(). Later the situation is repeated with ATI mandating that abc_function() or xyz_function() must be altered to ATI's specs to get ATI 3D acceleration. Now you have two commercial companies using FreeBSD as the mud puddle in a tug of war game. Do we really want third parties to have the ability to dictate to the devs what code goes into FreeBSD? I have doubts that this is a good path. From my understanding of the requests by NVidia; the changes they asked for were required to make a fully functional driver. They also stated that other manufacturers would need/require such code changes also. In any case, I fail to see what the problem is. Microsoft has make numerous modifications to its code to enable third party products to work correctly. With the advent of 'touch screens' now becoming a reality, along with voice recognition, etc., it seems that FreeBSD would want to stay ahead of the curve rather than playing catchup. Heck, unless I am mistaken, the ability to 'hot plug' a USB device does not even exist in FBSD, although I have heard that work is being done on it. Unfortunately, the technology has existed for over ten years. Trying to get hardware vendors interested in your product while simultaneously telling them to go screw themselves because you have no intention of working with them does not seem like a workable business model to me. -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com Therefore it is necessary to learn how not to be good, and to use this knowledge and not use it, according to the necessity of the cause. Machiavelli signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 20:32:59 +0100 (CET) Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: NVidia MUST INCLUDE full documentation of their hardware. this is normal - hardware manufacturer produces hardware, programmers do make support for it. what is common today isn't normal. I honestly have no idea what you are trying to communicate here. NVidia produces both the hardware and drivers for same. It requested additions/changes to the basic FBSD system to enable their product to be fully functional. Changes that it seems other manufacturers would also need. Now, if FBSD has no intention of working with other hardware and/or software manufacturers/authors, maybe it should just post a big KEEP OUT sign on its web page. I seriously doubt that NVidia, or any other manufacturer is about to divulge trade secrets or patented information. What point would there be in that anyway? It is certainly not necessary. What developer in his/her right mind would be interested in making their product usable on a FBSD system if they knew that they would have to divulge all of their trade secrets, etc. Market share increases by making your product more accessible and usable by a larger group of users. If FBSD wants to remain a 'niche' product with limited support for third party products, then the question of why FBSD is not more popular with hardware vendors has been answered. -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com meeting, n: An assembly of people coming together to decide what person or department not represented in the room must solve a problem. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Release schedules
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 12:20:12 -0800 Joe S js.li...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 11:49 AM, Maxim Khitrov mkhit...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Glen Barber glen.j.bar...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 2:13 PM, Maxim Khitrov mkhit...@gmail.com wrote: For example, RC2 builds were scheduled for 29 September 2008. When that day comes (or same week perhaps), whoever has the ability to change the release schedule page should update it regardless of what happened. If RC2 builds started, that should be reflected in the 'actual' column. Otherwise, if it's a minor change in the timeline, put the new expected date in. As is the case of 7.1 release, if the person honestly has no idea when RC2 will happen, put in 'December', 'January', 'Second half of January'... 'Sometime next year' if it's that uncertain. Anything at all; it takes 5 minutes to do. In the worst case, your estimate will need to be updated again in a month or two. In the best case, the release will be made before the expected date. I, for one, promise not to complain about that. :) If the sacrifice is an out-of-date column in a webpage while bugs are being worked out, in my opinion, that's fine with me. (IMHO) My point was that it shouldn't be one or the other. Taking a few minutes to update the web page does not interfere with the debugging process. It also doesn't force developers to follow that timeline. It is simply an indication to the users what their expectations should be at the present time. - Max Again, I wonder if the reason for the delays is that too much work is being taken on for each release. I agree that FreeBSD should be released when it is done and quality is of utmost importance. Perhaps it would be better to focus on adding a few less features than planned, so that they can be implemented well and on time. I admit, I am not part of the project, and in the end, I have no idea what's going on. I just know that other projects with FAR less developers have found a way to do this, so it's not *that* hard. My biggest gripe with the entire update schedule is that the ports freeze has been frozen longer than my wife. Maybe having two separate ports, one for the current version and one for the RC? version might work better. I have never fully understood why the ports had to be frozen anyway. Why can there not be two separate entities, the current version and the beta one? -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com Many a bum show has been saved by the flag. George M. Cohan signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Double Posts
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 14:56:30 -0800 Gabe n...@att.net wrote: -Original Message- From: Odhiambo Washington odhia...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 12:41 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Double Posts On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 8:27 PM, Jerry ges...@yahoo.com wrote: On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 08:38:17 -0500 Gary Hartl gha...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone have any clue what I would be getting two of every message posted to the group? It started yesterday and nothing has changed on my end (that I am aware of) I'm using outlook 2008, picking up from gmail. Thanks Gary Consider yourself lucky. I have been reading horror stories on the GMail forum regarding users losing email. In any event, if it just started and you did not change MUAs, it is almost guaranteed to be a Google (GMail) problem. By the way, are you using IMAP or POP? Hmm, this disappearing e-mails issue: I experienced it today. 2 test mails from my gmail account, to a mailing list where I am member, I see the mails sent to a gmail server from the logs of my mailing list server, but the mails failed to show up on my gmail account, Completely!! Its a conspiracy. Is it safe to say that it is in fact gmail related? Please don't 'top post'. If you don't know what that means, Google for it. As far as GMail is concerned, just perusal some of the posts on their mail forum. Mail disappearing and/or being delayed for 7 days, etc. Why anyone uses that piece of crap mail system is beyond me. -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com Reality always seems harsher in the early morning. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors
On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 21:04:08 +0100 (CET) Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: And certainly will AFTER such offtopic discussion won't be appearing here. i mean such offtopic discussion like: - comparision of things that can't be compared, and are not FreeBSD specific, like what is better windoze or KDE - how to make some very basic things is KDE/Gnome - it's not FreeBSD specific, of course we can answer how to do it without KDE/Gnome :) - When there will be 64-bit Nvidia Xorg support - ask NVidia or Xorg team. It's not part of FreeBSD after there will be stopped, i will stop complaining Better yet, start your own list. Then you can play the roles of führer and Gestapo all to your own liking. -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com For an idea to be fashionable is ominous, since it must afterwards be always old-fashioned. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 16:05:26 +1000 Da Rock rock_on_the_...@comcen.com.au wrote: On Sat, 2008-12-13 at 13:05 -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 10:46:55AM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: I honestly have no idea what you are trying to communicate here. exactly what i wrote. the problem is that people like You (and millions others) are willing to buy product without any documentation. You may find this surprising, but sometimes circumstances lead people to make purchases of total package products rather than building something there are products for them. In other words, your answer seems to be: We don't want users who like FreeBSD, but want to use it on a laptop. FreeBSD should never be used on a laptop. I'd say I can safely ignore you, knowing that's your attitude, if it weren't for the fact that a lot of other people won't know that down the line, and you may permanently damage the FreeBSD project by chasing off potential contributors. Is there any way I can get you to stop being such a contentious trojan horse of an enemy to the FreeBSD project? If one were spiritually minded one might see another reason behind this. Reminds me of a posting I recently saw on Slashdot: (paraphrased) Criticizing FreeBSD = Flame Bait; Criticizing MS Windows = Insightful -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com Remember that there is an outside world to see and enjoy. Hans Liepmann signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors
On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 12:49:43 +0100 (CET) Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: I think that can be handled quite easily by community social pressure, and moderation would just set a precedent for it's someone else's job. moderation is needed. Things like community social pressure simply doesn't. Like with democracy - those who are more common and louder will takeover, no matter if it make sense or not. Yes, and you have gone a long way in proving just that point. Your narrow minded, inability to accept anyone else's opinions that are even slightly ajar of your own preconceived concepts are a perfect example of your inability to work and play well with others. Actually, I like your reference to 'Democracy'. Coming from a socialist, the very thought of an open discussion on any matter that does not fit in your narrow parameters would seem objectionable. It's already happening on that group that's why i talk about starting moderation to remove all posts that are not about group topic! Might I suggest that we start with yours. I am all ready creating a KILL filter to rid my INBOX of your useless diatribe. Furthermore, I believe that your are the reason that vendors are not more interested in FreeBSD. How could any of them expect to reasonably work with a narrow minded, opinionated, buffoon like you? You concept of cooperation is: My way, or no way. -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com Speaking of purchasing a dog, never buy a watchdog that's on sale. After all, everyone knows a bargain dog never bites! signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 23:04:52 -0700 Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 08:57:28PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: bad (TM). No -- at *any* level: you are wrong. for example you WILL like to control what oficially your employees ktalk about your company. That's not censorship -- it's a nondisclosure agreement. There are users on this list who would love to see users of FBSD bound by an NDA so that they could not say anything these self appointed CENSORS consider verboten. -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com Absence in love is like water upon fire; a little quickens, but much extinguishes it. Hannah More signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Perl 5.10?
On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 04:06:46 -0800 (PST) Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum bg271...@yahoo.com wrote: Its now just over a year since Perl 5.10.0 was relased, but its still not in FreeBSD. (/usr/ports/lang only has 5.8). Can someone tell me why? Is there any way to get it working stably? Is there any schedule for when it will be added? This is a major release of a major language, not an obscure maintenence update. I asked that same question on the FreeBSD-Ports forum a few months ago; however, I never did receive a satisfactory answer. I believe it is readily apparent that it will not be included with the next release of FreeBSD; i.e., '7.1'. Since it does seem to work quite well under Linux, I was wondering if there was some fundamental flaw in FBSD that prevented it from working correctly here. Even so, failing to get a major project like Perl running properly in over a year on FBSD does not bode well for the OS. -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com When everything is coming your way, you are probably in the wrong lane. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Out of Office AutoReply: [SPAM:##] Greater tool is easy to get AGJ81
On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 13:22:27 -0800 Jason Irwin jir...@ohns.stanford.edu wrote: In accordance with the University Winter Closure schedule, I will be out of the office Friday, December 19th - Monday January 5th. I will check voice mail and email upon my return in January. Wonderful; another misconfigured OoO program. When will they ever learn? -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Out of Office AutoReply: Greater tool is easy to get CD
On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 16:31:10 -0500 Kevin Raleigh kevin.rale...@ledyardbank.com wrote: Kevin Raleigh is out of the office until Monday,January 4, 2009 Wow, still another incorrectly configured OoO application. This one comes complete with a legally unenforceable disclaimer. Are you a friend of Jason Irwin jir...@ohns.stanford.edu by any chance? -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com Nobody ever ruined their eyesight by looking at the bright side of something. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Perl 5.10?
On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 12:45:12 + Kris Kennaway k...@freebsd.org wrote: [snip] It is still true that the change from 5.6 to 5.8 was very disruptive because it broke lots of things in the ports tree. Is this the official reason that Perl-5.10 has not been released into the ports tree? Are ports being tied to specific versions of Perl? I did some Googling and found that of the users that have installed Perl from source on FBSD, most were not experiencing any major problem. If every time Perl is updated it will require massive changes or whatever to the FBSD ports, then perhaps there is a fundamental flaw in the ports system to start with. Perhaps you could list what the specific problems are so that others might start looking for solutions. This is really the first time that I have become aware of problems between Perl and the ports system. Just my 2¢. -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com I poured spot remover on my dog. Now he's gone. Steven Wright signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: An Apache2 configuration question
On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 02:33:54 -0500 stan st...@panix.com wrote: I'm setting up a 7.1 machine thta will server as, among other things, a web serrver. I've installed Apache2. I have some directores in the Apache documnet directory that I wish to pasword protect. I have added the following clause to /usr/local/etc/apache22/httpd.conf. I have created a Directory /usr/local/www/data Options Indexes FollowSymLinks AllowOverride AuthConfig /Directory In the directories that I want protected, I have created .htaccess files that look like this: AuthName Pictures AuthType Basic AuthUserFile /usr/local/etc/apache22/users2 require valid-user I have used htpasswd to create the users2 file. Ecerything works the way that I want _execpt_ the top level web page directory index, does not display the directories that have .htaccess files in them. What do I need to do to fix this? Have you checked out this URL: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/howto/auth.html You might also consider posting your question on the Apache list. -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com There seems no plan because it is all plan. C.S. Lewis signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: local copy of handbook
On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 18:28:46 +0100 Daniel Gerzo dan...@freebsd.org wrote: The docsnap.sk.FreeBSD.org (as well as ftp.sk and cvsup.sk) server is currently offline due to some problems after its update. Unfortunately it's been a vacations period here and we were unable to get personally to the box and fix it. However I have been told that the issue should be resolved tommorrow, so I would recommend you to try tommorrow or a bit later. Thanks for the info. -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com Let's love each other slowly, reaching for a plane, of exquisite pleasure, and delicate pain. Adam Beslove signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: local copy of handbook
On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 10:59:04 -0500 Randy Pratt bsd-u...@embarqmail.com wrote: On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 20:39:42 +0530 Masoom Shaikh masoom.sha...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday 29 December 2008 18:15:58 RW wrote: On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 10:16:42 +0530 Masoom Shaikh masoom.sha...@gmail.com wrote: lso I cud use tarballs from FTP, but is there easy way to install them ? also csup didn't help here is my csup file *default tag=RELENG_7 *default host=ftp2.tw.freebsd.org *default prefix=/usr *default base=/var/db *default release=cvs delete use-rel-suffix compress src-all doc-all csup updates the source each time, but now i am not sure about doc!! If you do it that way, you have to generate the html files yourself, cvup fetches generic data files that can be used to generate html , pdf etc. What I do these days is mirror the online version with wget. #!/bin/sh cd /usr/share/doc/en wg_args= --mirror -np -nH --cut-dirs=2 --limit-rate=33k bg_flags= # Run quietly from cron [ ! -t 0 ] bg_flags= --quiet wget $bg_flags $wg_args http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/; ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org that is clever use of wget :) but can't docs remain updated with csup ? if yes, how ? otherwise I will be happy to generate them from sources if they happen to be some simple target You might consider using Docsnap. This allows you to maintain all the FreeBSD documentation with a minimum of effort. Docsnap is an rsync repository for easy updating of installed FreeBSD documentation (/usr/share/doc). The first run may take longer but subsequent updates take very little time. Only the differences in the documents are transferred. That is the main advantage but you also do not need to install ports with hefty overhead to build documents. Rsync is only utility required (/usr/ports/net/rsync). Typical usage: # rsync -rltvz docsnap.sk.FreeBSD.org::docsnap /usr/share/doc/ For more information see http://docsnap.sk.freebsd.org/ and possibly the rsync manual page. I was having a problem reaching that URL; however, I found that this one: http://www.oook.cz/bsd/docsnap.html did seem to work. In any case, I am unable to get the 'rsync' command to work. This is the output of one such attempt. ~ $ sudo rsync -rltvz docsnap.sk.FreeBSD.org::docsnap /usr/share/doc/ rsync: failed to connect to docsnap.sk.FreeBSD.org: Operation timed out (60) rsync error: error in socket IO (code 10) at clientserver.c(124) [receiver=3.0.5] This has happened continually for the past few days. I am not sure if it is a temporary problem or or permanent one. -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com A crow perched himself on a telephone wire. He was going to make a long-distance caw. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: local copy of handbook
On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 10:59:04 -0500 Randy Pratt bsd-u...@embarqmail.com wrote: You might consider using Docsnap. This allows you to maintain all the FreeBSD documentation with a minimum of effort. Docsnap is an rsync repository for easy updating of installed FreeBSD documentation (/usr/share/doc). The first run may take longer but subsequent updates take very little time. Only the differences in the documents are transferred. That is the main advantage but you also do not need to install ports with hefty overhead to build documents. Rsync is only utility required (/usr/ports/net/rsync). Typical usage: # rsync -rltvz docsnap.sk.FreeBSD.org::docsnap /usr/share/doc/ For more information see http://docsnap.sk.freebsd.org/ and possibly the rsync manual page. I reported last week that this was not working. It still fails with the following error message: ~ # rsync -rltvz docsnap.sk.FreeBSD.org::docsnap /usr/share/doc/ rsync: failed to connect to docsnap.sk.FreeBSD.org: Connection refused (61) rsync error: error in socket IO (code 10) at clientserver.c(124) [receiver=3.0.5] I was under the impression that someone was looking into it. Is there any estimated time for the link to be fixed? -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com Strategy: A long-range plan whose merit cannot be evaluated until sometime after those creating it have left the organization. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager
On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 11:20:50 +1000 Da Rock rock_on_the_...@comcen.com.au wrote: On Fri, 2009-01-09 at 09:53 -0500, Grant Peel wrote: Hi Mike, I am not at all sure whate you are suggesting here? What I am asking, is, somehting like: Can I reboot the machine with the FreeBSD install disk, and using the sysinstall utility, reinstall the freebsd boot manger so I wind up with: F1 Windows F2 FreeBSD F5 Disk1 -Grant Not a chance- why do you think you have to install Window$ first? Gates and his cronies aren't going to make it easy for you to install free software, and so they make it as hard as possible hoping you'll install Window$ and give up. I haven't heard of anywhere that any of the freeloaders (pardon the pun) that can boot a M$ system- only paid for software like Bootmagic. Or use the M$ loader in window$ to boot other systems- strange that it should be able to do that, but then most of the OSS is KISS based rather than the rigmarole M$ go to. Again, I could be outdated and/or wrong on this, but I doubt it has changed. This primarily applies to Vista, although it might work with other versions of Windows. It is possible to install FreeBSD or Linux, and possibly other OS's prior to the installation of Microsoft's Windows. Check out these two URLs for further information. http://neosmart.net/wiki/display/EBCD/Linux http://administratosphere.wordpress.com/2008/02/25/installing-grub-on-freebsd/ You will also need the sysutils/grub port installed. -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com Do not believe in miracles -- rely on them. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Perl: Why not updated to latest version 5.10.0
I was wondering if anyone can tell me why Perl was not updated to the latest stable release; i.e. 5.10.0 rather than 5.8.9 recently? It appears that some ports are having problems with this odd version update; i.e., /news/inn and possibly /mail/mailscanner as examples. With the latest version of Perl having been released over a year ago, it doesn't seem to make a whole lot of sense to waste the time to port an older version. -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com The Vatican is against surrogate mothers. Good thing they didn't have that rule when Jesus was born. Elayne Boosler signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Perl: Why not updated to latest version 5.10.0
On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 07:58:44 -0500 Robert Huff roberth...@rcn.com wrote: I was wondering if anyone can tell me why Perl was not updated to the latest stable release; i.e. 5.10.0 rather than 5.8.9 recently? This was discussed within the last 2-3 weeks, either here or on po...@. Check the archives. If this is important, you can always volunteer to help the Perl-porting team. I subscribe to the port@ list as well as this one obviously and I do not remember seeing that article. I will keep looking. -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com To stay young requires unceasing cultivation of the ability to unlearn old falsehoods. Lazarus Long, Time Enough For Love signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Portmanager gives me an error message
On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 20:00:26 -0500 Eduardo Cerejo ejcer...@optonline.net wrote: I'm trying to upgrade any port with portmanager because portupgrade keeps failing all the time. No matter what port I try to upgrade I get this error: sudo portmanager x11/xterm -l -u Password: MGrStrlen error: NULL marker not found in string Assertion failed: (0), function MGrStrlen, file MGrStrlen.c, line 54. Abort I'm running FreeBSD 7.1 release. I am assuming you have the latest version of portmanager and an updated ports tree. Try just running portmanager in a generic fashion; i.e.: portmanager -u -l -p -y See if that corrects the problem. Also, can you run it as root rather than using sudo? I have no idea if that would make any difference; however, I never use sudo when running portmanager myself. Also, you probably have portsclean installed. Clean out your /usr/ports/distfiles directory and then run: portsclean -CLP Prior to running portmanger. It cannot hurt and it might fix something. You might also consider doing a deinstall/reinstall of portmanger if you feel the program might have gotten damaged. -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com FOR SALE: Parachute. Used once. Never opened. Slightly Stained. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Force use of 'gpg2'
I have both 'gpg' and 'gpg2' installed. I only want/need the 'gpg2' version. I created a link that that forces the use of 'gpg2' irregardless of which version is called. The problem is that occasionally, when updating the ports, the link is over written and 'gpg' is reinstalled. I don't believe I need this older version for anything. As far as I can tell, any port that needs 'gpg' will work fine with 'gpg2'. Is there anything I can put in the /etc/make.conf' file that will force the use/install of 'gpg2' only? Something like: WITH_GPG2=yes or WANT_GPG_VER=2 Or something like that. Is that possible? I cannot find any documentation regarding this. -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com Savage's Law of Expediency: You want it bad, you'll get it bad. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Force use of 'gpg2'
On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:03:01 + Chris Rees utis...@googlemail.com wrote: [snip] Try putting the link in somewhere that gets searched before /usr/local/bin, like /bin or (better) /usr/bin. Then try rehash which gpg I am using 'bash' so I don't think 'rehash' is going to do anything, although I could be mistaken. However, I don't see how that would stop a port from installing 'gpg' rather than 'gpg2'. I don't need both versions installed and would rather just keep the newer 'gpg2' one. -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com One of the lessons of history is that nothing is often a good thing to do and always a clever thing to say. Will Durant signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Samba 3.2 FreeBSD
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 15:04:52 +0300 Proskurin Kirill proskurin...@fxclub.org wrote: Odhiambo Washington wrote: On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Proskurin Kirill Just wondering - why samba 3.2+ is not in a ports? net/samba3-devel ?? Oh. But why it is devel? Samba 3.3 is officially stable. Have you tried contacting the port maintainer? ti...@freebsd.org -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com Surely you can't be serious. I am serious, and don't call me Shirley. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: recovering from a power outage
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 14:16:13 +0100 Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 08:11:56 -0500, Robert Huff roberth...@rcn.com wrote: One of my machines has a pair of 50gb SCSI disks; running two full passes takes about 7 minutes. I have no idea how long it might take to check a multi-terabyte RAID-mumble set-up. It's not *that* hard to wait for an fsck. I have 2 x 500 GB here at home, you're right, it takes several minutes for fsck to check both disks, but in the end, you're happy that either everything turns out to be okay or, if problems occured, you see these problems and can decide how to handle them. Still worth waiting ... in my opinion. I'd rather wait than lose data. But as you said, it's very individual how you think about this. If backups are done properly, sometimes it might even be easier *not* to repair data, but to put back the backups on the newly initialized disks... IMHO, if you are running a system where 'power outages' cannot be tolerated, why not install a UPS, they are really quite cheap, and be done with it? I cannot imagine any high end, mission critical system not employing one. -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com Your temporary financial embarrassment will be relieved in a surprising manner. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: recovering from a power outage
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 10:22:55 -0500 Robert Huff roberth...@rcn.com wrote: IMHO, if you are running a system where 'power outages' cannot be tolerated, why not install a UPS, they are really quite cheap, and be done with it? I cannot imagine any high end, mission critical system not employing one. Power outages are not the only thing which can cause (directly or indirectly) file system corruption. I agree, a sledge hammer applied to the HD could also cause irreparable harm; however, the subject of this thread referred to 'power outages'. The use of UPS, RAID, backups, etc. all tend to insure the safety of data. In this case, the OP only referenced 'power outages'. -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com People that can't find something to live for always seem to find something to die for. The problem is, they usually want the rest of us to die for it too. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Recommendations for running FreeBSD as a guest OS
On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 22:32:39 -0600 Bobby Walker bo...@missionaccess.org wrote: I have a small network at work that, unfortunately, uses Windows 2003. I need a good mail server, but I do not have a budget for purchasing additional software. Exchange requires too many hacks to configure a catchall email account, and Exchange and I do not get along very well. So, today while brainstorming, I thought why not run FreeBSD as a guest OS on the box. Any suggestions for the best way of doing this? Actually, I know of several instances of Exchange with 'catchall mail boxes. It is, to a certain degree, version dependent. You can get the scripts and other information here. Google for more if you need it. http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/324021 http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb691132.aspx -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com The only way to get rid of a temptation is to yield to it. Oscar Wilde signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: hi
On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 12:50:41 -0700 Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: [snip] I can see both sides of this argument. Maybe we need to split up FreeBSD documentation into two domains, similarly to the way FreeBSD software is split into two domains (core and ports) -- and thus have a place outside the FreeBSD handbook for the same, more-than-professional quality of documentation, but covering things we wouldn't be comfortable putting in the FreeBSD Handbook itself. Specifically, what is it we are uncomfortable putting in the handbook? More importantly, what good is a handbook if it is not complete? Would the documentation be cross indexed so a user could find more details on a particular subject? Personally, while perfectly plausible, it sounds like more work than it is worth. -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com Memory fault - where am I? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Ports on Macbook
On Sat, 28 Feb 2009 17:26:57 +0100 Bernt Hansson be...@bah.homeip.net wrote: [snip] It doesn't really matter much what they say in their eula. If i bought a copy then i can do/install whatever I want since there isn't any agreement between apple and me. For the agreement to be binding I must sign a contract with apple. That depends on where you are domiciled. Under certain scenarios, simply open the box, or installing the software constitutes acceptance of the EULA. -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com According to my best recollection, I don't remember. Vincent Jimmy Blue Eyes Alo signature.asc Description: PGP signature
backup msdos slice
Hi, I hate to start this potential storm, but... I have a machine with both an MS and FreeBSD slices on it. I can easily back up and recover the FreeBSD slices using dump(8)/restore(8) But, that won't work for the MS slice (which happens to be FAT32 on this machine) because there is no superblock and inode structure. So, what I would like is something that would dump the MS slice to a FreeBSD file or media written in the FreeBSD world and that I could then pick out files and directories somewhat like I do using restore on a dump file.I suspect that tar might not keep enough meta information to be right for this job. Is that a valid concern?Recovered files should still work in MS-Win. Is there anything worthwhile out there that can do this and not go through some the rigamarole that some MS backup systems seem to want to put one through? Basically, I want to back up the MSDOS slice (I know MS calls it a primary partition) from the FreeBSD side of things. I can read and write the slice nicely from FreeBSD, but not dump/restore. I would appreciate any suggestions. jerry ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: hardware list in a machine
On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 10:07:51 + Ricardo Jesus ricardo.meb.je...@gmail.com wrote: Josh Carroll wrote: On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 2:59 PM, gahn ipfr...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi all: How could I find out the list of hardware in my machine? I used dmesg and var/run/dmesg.boot, it didn't seem to help that much as I expected. which file lists all of hardware in the machine? Thanks. Give the sysutils/dmidecode port a shot. Josh % pciconf -lv man pciconf for further details. This may not be a popular suggestion; however, the only method that I have ever found to be 100% accurate, other than opening the machine up an inspecting it, is to query the manufacturer. Dell is pretty good about this, as is HP. I am not too sure about others. Of course, if you have added/changed HW after obtaining the machine, you would have to factor that into any information obtained from the manufacturer. -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com OCEAN: A body of water occupying about two-thirds of a world made for man -- who has no gills. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: problem rotating apache logs
On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 15:38:37 + Robin Becker ro...@reportlab.com wrote: I'm trying to get newsyslog to rotate my apache2 logs (this in 7.0 7.1 release). I added this to the end of newsyslog.conf /var/log/httpd-*.log644 9 8@T01 BG /var/run/httpd.pid 30 this is what is currently working for me in 6.0 6.1. Signal 30 is supposed to be USR1 which is intended to cause a graceful restart. However, I find that although I do get a rotated log file the new logs always seem to be empty. The logs seem to start growing only after I restart the apache server. What am I doing wrong? Have you checked out (depending on your Apache version) http://httpd.apache.docs/1.3/programs/rotatelogs.html http://httpd.apache.docs/2.0/programs/rotatelogs.html -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com Established technology tends to persist in the face of new technology. G. Blaauw, one of the designers of System 360 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: p5-Digest-HMAC-1.01 installation is corrupt!
On Wed, 11 Mar 2009 06:13:33 -0700 Noah adm...@enabled.com wrote: yes and I still get the error again when running portmanager # pkg_delete -f p5-Digest-HMAC-1.01 pkg_delete: package 'p5-Digest-HMAC-1.01' is required by these other packages and may not be deinstalled (but I'll delete it anyway): p5-Mail-SpamAssassin-3.2.5_1 pkg_delete: package 'p5-Digest-HMAC-1.01' doesn't have a prefix # # portmanager -u -y rCreateInstalledDbVerifyContentsFile 0.4.1_9 error: @comment ORIGIN: not found in /var/db/pkg/p5-Digest-HMAC-1.01/+CONTENTS p5-Digest-HMAC-1.01 installation is corrupt! recomend running pkg_delete -f p5-Digest-HMAC-1.01 then manually reinstalling this port rCreateInstalledDbVerifyContentsFile 0.4.1_9 error: @comment ORIGIN: not found in /var/db/pkg/p5-Digest-HMAC-1.01/+CONTENTS p5-Digest-HMAC-1.01 installation is corrupt! recomend running pkg_delete -f p5-Digest-HMAC-1.01 then manually reinstalling this port portmanager 0.4.1_9: Collecting installed port data ^CMGPMrCatchSignal received signal -=2 Please don't top post. If you don't know what that means, Google for it. Try running pkg_delete with the [-d] [-v] options also. pkg_delete -dfv p5-Digest-HMAC-1.01 Paste the output here if there is a problem. Then run portmanager: portmanager security/p5-Digest-HMAC -l -f -y See if that clears up your problem. -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com Man is an animal that makes bargains: no other animal does this-- no dog exchanges bones with another. Adam Smith signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Problem with Bash-4 and $(command) syntax
I just updated from Bash-3.x to Bash-4.0. There appears to be a problem with the way Bash-4 interprits the following. This works fine on Bash-3.x: snippet #!/usr/bin/env bash GET_PATH=1 if $( which gpg2 ); then printf gpg2 located fi /snippet However, under Bash-4, it fail with this error message: ./t.sh: command substitution: line 6: syntax error near unexpected token `)' ./t.sh: command substitution: line 6: ` which gpg2 )' I have several scripts that use the $(command) syntax and they are all failing now. I have replaced that syntax with the older ` tics method. Is this a known problem with Bash-4? I have not been able to find anything about it on the Bash site. -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Problem with Bash-4 and $(command) syntax
On Fri, 13 Mar 2009 13:16:07 -0600 Tim Judd taj...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 11:35 PM, bf bf20...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm wondering if a fix can be accomplished due to a semicolon within the ()s to complete a command line. Similar to how find(1) expression works, you have to end the expression with a semicolon in order for find to successfully (and willingly) work. Can the OP try if $( which gpg2; ); then No, that doesn't work either. The problem is with 'yacc'. The port maintainer has updated the bash port to use 'bison' instead. The new port is in the ports tree now. I will be installing it later today; however, it should work fine. -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com The higher you climb, the more you show your ass. Alexander Pope, The Dunciad signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Finding Dependencies
Assuming program: 'foo', how can I determine what other programs depend on 'foo', not what programs 'foo' depends on? I have a program on my system and I want to determine what other programs are dependent upon it. 'pkg_info' doesn't seem to give me that information. -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com A baby is God's opinion that the world should go on. Carl Sandburg signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Finding Dependencies
On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:16:19 + Paul Schmehl pschmehl_li...@tx.rr.com wrote: [snip] man (1) pkg_info -r what the package depends on -R what depends on the package It does not list any package that depends on it. I have no idea why it is being installed. -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com Handel's Proverb: You can't produce a baby in one month by impregnating 9 women! signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: installing freebsd on windows
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:12:39 -0400 Harold Hartley wheelie...@gwi.net wrote: I am wondering if the freebsd team has ever thought of making freebsd to install on windows like ubuntu does. I'm just a person that can't afford more than one computer cause I live in a nursing home and I would like to be able to use one computer to choose what I want to boot into, such as windows or unbuntu and maybe a freebsd choice. I don't always want to boot into windows, except for the 3 apps I have to use windows for. I do boot into ubuntu 90% of the time and enjoy it so much, but I have read about freebsd and researched it fully and I wish I could be able to run freebsd as with all the apps freebsd has to offer. I would love to be able to install freebsd under windows so I could choose freebsd to boot into when I want. I hope to hear from freebsd about my request, and by the way, I'm not a linux expert so I don't know everything about linux, but I'm always learning. If you are interested in using a virtual machine, these two URLs might prove useful. http://www.microsoft.com/virtualization/default.mspx?WT.mc_id=13E48F94-882A-43DB-9ED5-BBC184D75FC7WT.srch=1mode=1CR_ID=-1CR_TC=9OSUHTJXBB2LNZC http://vpc.visualwin.com/index.aspx FreeBSD is fully supported according to the documentation. -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com Systems programmers are the high priests of a low cult. R. S. Barton signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: problem with postfix
On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:09:34 + Terry te...@bluelight.org.uk wrote: Upali Rajapakse wrote: I installed postfix on frebsd 7 i can send mail through command line but i cant receive any mail to it. and also there is no Maildir on any users home directory. can you help me? Best thing to do is go google/ yahoo http://uk.search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A1f4cfyX0stJgmUAiHJLBQx.?p=freebsd+postfix+setup+y=Searchfr=moz2rd=r1 I would recommend that you post your question on the Postfix forum. postfix-us...@postfix.com Visit: http://postfix.com/lists.html if not a member, or just sent a message to: mojord...@postfix.org with subscribe postfix-users sans quotation marks in the body of the message. Be sure to include the output of 'postconf -n' in its entirety. Also, any pertinent log entries. -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com Parkinson's Fourth Law: The number of people in any working group tends to increase regardless of the amount of work to be done. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: installing freebsd on windows
On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:50:40 + Frank Shute fr...@shute.org.uk wrote: On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 01:03:59AM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: It's certainly not slow and messy here. I installed PCBSD a couple of months ago after a few years of rolling my own desktop and I love it. On reasonable spec hardware it runs very well, the developers have done an excellent job of course. windows vista runs well too on overmuscled hardware. No it doesn't. It doesn't run well on any hardware because it's got things like a file manager that is broken for all intents and purposes. No virtual desktops, undocumented shell etc. Actually, it supports at least four that I know of. You can Google for the information. MS Windows is probably the best documented piece of software around. What is it you are looking for? -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com A bore is a man who talks so much about himself that you can't talk about yourself. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: installing freebsd on windows
On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:45:33 + Frank Shute fr...@shute.org.uk wrote: On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 08:31:31AM -0400, Jerry wrote: On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:50:40 + Frank Shute fr...@shute.org.uk wrote: On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 01:03:59AM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: It's certainly not slow and messy here. I installed PCBSD a couple of months ago after a few years of rolling my own desktop and I love it. On reasonable spec hardware it runs very well, the developers have done an excellent job of course. windows vista runs well too on overmuscled hardware. A system can never be over powered. No it doesn't. It doesn't run well on any hardware because it's got things like a file manager that is broken for all intents and purposes. No virtual desktops, undocumented shell etc. Actually, it supports at least four that I know of. You can Google for the information. Four of what? Virtual desktops. What are you referring to? Visit the power toys URL for further information. http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/Downloads/powertoys/Xppowertoys.mspx Why do I have to Google the info? Shouldn't there be a copy of the info locally? Not necessarily. Many people don't want to clutter up their system with documentation that they will never use. I certainly don't. If I actually need an obscure bit of information, I can always obtain it. I can google for unbroken filemanagers, documented shells, install cygwin etc. but the software as it stands is horribly inadequate and undocumented. In your opinion. I never have a problem finding what I am looking for. MS Windows is probably the best documented piece of software around. Are you being sarcastic? Where's the Handbook like FreeBSDs? Are you being sarcastic? You can read the source can you? I can't. If you are referring to the source code; well that is obvious. If something else, then what? People get paid to develop the software. If they gave it away, they would not make a living, the unemployment lines would swell, and crime would increase. Now, if you don't believe in a capitalistic system of free enterprise, please come over and paint my house this weekend. I promise not to insult you by offering to pay you. Maybe I'm just getting old but Vista documentation seems to be scattered to hell and west over the 'net - if you can find what you're looking for at all. Yes, it is fragmented. The simple fact that there is so much information is the cause, not the problem. What is it you are looking for? Where are the documents for using their crappy filemanager? There are some with what they call, exaggeratingly, their help system but they are useless compared to any unix documentation. Probably there are a limited number of ways you can describe such an excrescance as the Vista Explorer replacement. Where are the manpages for their shell? They should at least have some documentation that comes with the OS that lists and describes the commands it supports. It doesn't. Did you actually install the 'Power Shell?' I assume that is what you are talking about. Read the 'Getting Started pages. I just installed it and there is a wealth of information there. Certainly enough to get started with. BTW, many people consider 'man' to be an acronym for Much About Nothing. Therein lies the reason that O'Reilly has make a fortune distributing 'How-To' books. I'm looking for an OS with a sane file hierarchy and a shell I can use to manage the files therein. An editor better than Notepad would be a bonus too. Wrong, you are looking for a specific OS that is tailored to your very specific specification. Everyone does not (thank GOD) have the same criteria. If it suits you, then great. If not, find one that does. Bitching like an old wash woman accomplishes nothing. Extensive documentation on the machine is a must. Then install it. Everyone does not want massive amounts of useless clutter. I've searched on google for documentation on the powershell to no avail. All the docs as such seem to be available if you are a member of MSDN - I presume so anyway, but for the general public they don't seem to be readily available. Obviously, you have not installed the shell. Besides the info included with the program, you might want to check out the following URL. It should answer most of your immediate questions. I also question you 'search' ability. I don't seem to be having any problem finding gratuitous amounts of documentation. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/926139 In short, I gave Vista a decent shot (I quite like XP) but it was like wading through treacle and I thought that if I am to get the best out of it, I'm probably going to have to sign up for MSDN and download vast amounts of missing software and spend inordinate amounts of time on google. Yes, it is commonly referred to as a 'learning curve' Personally, anyone who cannot handle a Win32 machine has serous problems. Six year old kids gleefully manipulate a PC without problems. I know several
Re: installing freebsd on windows
instruction manual, although I have not used them in five years either. I'm looking for an OS with a sane file hierarchy and a shell I can use to manage the files therein. An editor better than Notepad would be a bonus too. Then download one. There are dozens of free ones available. I use PSPad myself. By the way, what is the default for FBSD? I thought it was ee, a real powerhouse. I am not sure; but does anyone actually use that program? BTW, XP and maybe Vista come with 'wordpad'. Not exactly a powerhouse, but it is free and more versatile that Notepad. I've searched on google for documentation on the powershell to no avail. All the docs as such seem to be available if you are a member of MSDN - I presume so anyway, but for the general public they don't seem to be readily available. Obviously, you have not installed the shell. Besides the info included with the program, you might want to check out the following URL. It should answer most of your immediate questions. I also question you 'search' ability. I don't seem to be having any problem finding gratuitous amounts of documentation. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/926139 User guide in rtf and docs in txt. Laughable. It is available. You falsely claimed it was not available. The format would obviously fit what Microsoft uses. I would not expect them to use Latex anymore than I would expect FBSD to publish in a 'doc' format. If I visit a Arabic site, I would expect it to be written in Arabic. Does that mean they are idiots? (Well maybe, but that is another story) In short, I gave Vista a decent shot (I quite like XP) but it was like wading through treacle and I thought that if I am to get the best out of it, I'm probably going to have to sign up for MSDN and download vast amounts of missing software and spend inordinate amounts of time on google. Yes, it is commonly referred to as a 'learning curve' Personally, anyone who cannot handle a Win32 machine has serous problems. Six year old kids gleefully manipulate a PC without problems. I know several 7 8 year old kids running MS Office without any difficulty at all. It all depends on how motivated you are. Can they manipulate their files dirs with the Vista file manager? Yes. Exactly what is it that you are unable to do? Nobody's pointed out docs for the aforesaid file manager yet. There is documentation under the 'Help' system. You have not stated what it is you are looking for, so helping you is beyond the scope of my crystal ball. Conversely, I know many individuals who just plain gave up tying to run a *.nix system because they could not get a device to work, or locate a driver, or find a support mechanism that was suitable for them purposes. Things like FLASH have always been problematic on FreeBSD. Now why don't you post a nice, concise list of problems you are allegedly experiencing as opposed to a rambling condemnation of a product you claim to not even be using. -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com I believe a little incompatibility is the spice of life, particularly if he has income and she is pattable. Ogden Nash signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Question about support for HP D1560 printer under FreeBSD
On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:06:14 +0530 Manish Jain invalid.poin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jerry, Thanks for your message. I checked up the list, which says that the D1560 is indeed supported, but it also says that the minimum version of hplip required for this is 2.8.5, while the latest port available is 2.8.2. Please check out [2]http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/models/deskjet/deskjet_d15 00_series.html for this. Contact the port maintainer: amis...@am-productions.biz and explain your problem to him. He should be able to update the port so it works for you. I have spoken to him before and he solved a problem I was having rather quickly. -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com Inform all the troops that communications have completely broken down. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: hplip port update to version 2.8.5
On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 23:19:35 +0530 Manish Jain invalid.poin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am about to buy a new printer and my retailer strongly recommends HP's D1560 printer (USB). I am running ghostscript8-8.62_5 under FreeBSD 7.1 and I can't see this model listed anywhere in apsfilter. So I checked up the hplip site. The site says that the D1560 is indeed supported, but it also says that the minimum version of hplip required for this is 2.8.5, while the latest port available is 2.8.2. Please check out http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/models/deskjet/deskjet_d1500_series.html The site actually lists hplip version 2.8.5 as the minimum requirement for the entire D15XX series, and a whole lot of other deskjet printers. Should I wait for a port update or do you think version 2.8.2 is capable of handling the printer ? I think I would give some credence to the stated requirements on the site. In any case, did you contact the port maintainer about updating the port. If if doesn't get done before the port freeze, you will probably be screwed. -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com Political history is far too criminal a subject to be a fit thing to teach children. W. H. Auden signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: FreeBSD Upgrade: Ports That Need Rebuilding
On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 18:27:32 +0200 Roland Smith rsm...@xs4all.nl wrote: On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 12:17:08PM +0200, Mel Flynn wrote: On Thursday 16 April 2009 07:15:05 Roland Smith wrote: On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 12:49:43AM +0400, Eugene L. wrote: I am planning to update to CURRENT, been reading freebsd-current for some time, apparently some ports require rebuilding as they are kernel specific, like hal, so I wonder how to rebuild those ports automatically? If you switch to another major version of FreeBSD, the best course is to remove and reinstall all ports. All ports depending on libc. Which is everything except scripts. Removal isn't necessary. ports-mgmt/portmaster is one of those scripts that doesn't need recompilation and can be used to force recompilation of all ports that need it. Two for one deal. Unfortunately, no port management tool deals completely with this situation. The libc version isn't listed as a dependency, AFAIK. I tend to make a list of all installed ports (with portmaster -L), wipe all ports and remove any remains from /usr/local. Then reinstall all ports listed as 'root ports' and 'leaf ports' in said list. This makes sure you have a clean and consistent set of ports. I have never actually had to delete any existing files. I simple deleted all files in the '/usr/ports/distro' directory, then download the required java files (assuming you have a version installed) and then run: portmanager -u -f -y -l You could skip the '-l' if you didn't want a log file created; however, I wouldn't. I have not had a problem with this method yet. -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com Yeah, there are more important things in life than money, but they won't go out with you if you don't have any. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Problems with Xorg after portupgrade
On Mon, 20 Apr 2009 03:58:10 +0200 Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: [snip] While CTRL+ALT+Backspace does not kill the X server, I can press CTRL+ALT+F1 or ALT+F1 to return to the text mode console. I then kill the X server via CTRL+C. There's a new setting that needs to be put into xorg.conf: Section ServerFlags Option DontZap false EndSection Then you should be able to Ctrl+Alt+BkSpace to kill X. Maybe I am reading this incorrectly; however, in my /etc/xorg.conf file, I have this notation. # Uncomment this to disable the CtrlAltBS server abort sequence # This allows clients to receive this key event. #Option DontZap It would seem the language is confusing. As I would understand it, uncommenting the line disables the sequence. Therefore, it would seem to indicate that leaving it commented out activates the sequence. Maybe the language should be cleaned up. -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com Trying to get an education here is like trying to take a drink from a fire hose. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Problems with Xorg after portupgrade
On Mon, 20 Apr 2009 15:58:15 +0300 Manolis Kiagias son...@otenet.gr wrote: Jerry wrote: On Mon, 20 Apr 2009 03:58:10 +0200 Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: [snip] While CTRL+ALT+Backspace does not kill the X server, I can press CTRL+ALT+F1 or ALT+F1 to return to the text mode console. I then kill the X server via CTRL+C. There's a new setting that needs to be put into xorg.conf: Section ServerFlags Option DontZap false EndSection Then you should be able to Ctrl+Alt+BkSpace to kill X. Maybe I am reading this incorrectly; however, in my /etc/xorg.conf file, I have this notation. # Uncomment this to disable the CtrlAltBS server abort sequence # This allows clients to receive this key event. #Option DontZap It would seem the language is confusing. As I would understand it, uncommenting the line disables the sequence. Therefore, it would seem to indicate that leaving it commented out activates the sequence. Maybe the language should be cleaned up. Heh, it can be quite confusing because it enables the system to *not* do something, which is the reverse of what we usually think options do. Using Option DontZap simply enables DontZap which prevents CTRL+ALT+BSKP from being used. Hence disabling DontZap allows X-Server to be... Zapped or killed by the key combination ;) I agree. I hate programmers who think they have to 'confuse' the end user. Setting something off to enable it, and vice versa is neither logical or intuitive. Maybe changing the option to: OPTION EnableKill On and then explaining the with it enabled the CTRL+ALT+BKSP key combination is enabled would make more sense. -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com Good day to deal with people in high places; particularly lonely stewardesses. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: unable to completely remove directory during deinstall
On Wed, 22 Apr 2009 09:16:22 -0500 Richard DeLaurell richard.delaur...@gmail.com wrote: This is undoubtedly a very newbie question, but I have seen this type of error a few times recently: pkg_delete: unable to completely remove directory '/directory.name' pkg_delete: couldn't entirely delete package (perhaps the packing list is incorrectly specified?) It occurs at the end of a deinstall as a matter of updating a port by hand. What is the proper procedure to correct this? Run pkgdb -F? Rm the offending files/dirs by hand? Both? The updated packages seem to run okay afterward if I ignore these errors; however, I am certain that they are really just swept under the carpet for the time being and will reemerge in the future (at a moment of maximum inconvenience no doubt). Also, is make deinstall the same as uninstall? First, there is a good chance that the 'pkg-plist' file is not correct. It is usually harmless, however. You can usually just do a: make deinstall reinstall distclean Prior to updating, running 'pkgdb -Ffuv' is usually a safe concept. If there are any problems, they will usually become self evident. What port are you referencing? I assume 'by hands' means that you are not using a port tool to manage updating a specific port. Is that correct? -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com A prisoner of war is a man who tries to kill you and fails, and then asks you not to kill him. Sir Winston Churchill, 1952 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: portaudit php vulnerabilities
On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 23:45:39 -0800 Nerius Landys nlan...@gmail.com replied: For the past week or so, portaudit has been warning me that the installed version of php on my system (php5-5.2.11_1) has known vulnerabilties. Fair enough. However, I've not seen a fix in the ports tree since then. Is my only option to deinstall php until this gets fixed? Hi. I've been experiencing the same problem. Apparently 5.2.12 is not in the ports yet, but probably will be soon. If found it necessary to do some port-related commands even though 5.2.11 is currently blacklisted by portaudit. You can use DISABLE_VULNERABILITIES in your commands as outlined here until there is an updated port: Same problem here. I was going to update to FreeBSD-8 this weekend; however, I thought better of it. As sure as death and taxes, I know that as soon as I install FBSD-8 with PHP the new version of PHP will become available. I'll install it and something will break. I'll just wait until this problem is resolved. -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com |=== |=== |=== |=== | Genuine happiness is when a wife sees a double chin on her husband's old girl friend. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
pulseaudio warning message
FreeBSD-7.2 From time to time, I see a warning similar to this in the /var/log/messages log file: Dec 28 11:43:30 scorpio pulseaudio[3850]: module.c: module-detect is deprecated: Please use module-udev-detect instead of module-detect! Dec 28 11:43:30 scorpio pulseaudio[3850]: oss-util.c: '/dev/dsp2.0' doesn't support full duplex I am assuming that this is a harmless warning message. Would that assumption be correct? -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com |=== |=== |=== |=== | Tact is the ability to tell a man he has an open mind when he has a hole in his head. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: fetchmail and plain text password
On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 11:11:50 + Anton Shterenlikht me...@bristol.ac.uk replied: On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 06:35:15PM +0100, Roland Smith wrote: On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 03:15:53PM +, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: I use fetchmail http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mail-fetchmail.html to download all my mail from the Uni mail server to my fbsd box. I typically run it in daemon mode, which requires having my mail server password in plain text in .fetchmailrc I'm a little worried about the security of having my password in plain text on the system. I ran across this URL: http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/Secure-POP+SSH.html It might be what you are looking for. -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com |=== |=== |=== |=== | Justice always prevails ... three times out of seven! Michael J. Wagner ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: fetchmail and plain text password
On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:53:24 +
RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com articulated:
BTW personally I use getmail instead of fetchmail, I've not used
fetchmail much, but I've read a lot of bad things about it - some of
which are mentioned here:
http://pyropus.ca/software/getmail/faq.html#faq-about-why
That article is grossly out of date. Furthermore, D. J. Bernstein
created an MTA that was a back-scatters dream. Then, he abandoned it.
--
Jerry
ges...@yahoo.com
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Re: Blocking a slow-burning SSH bruteforce
On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 01:56:17 +1100 David Rawling d...@pdconsec.net replied: Apart from switching away from user authentication to private/public keys ... is there anything I can do to mitigate these attacks? Any advice welcome. Is there a specific reason that you don't want to use keys? -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com |=== |=== |=== |=== | Most general statements are false, including this one. Alexander Dumas ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Openoffice3 and aspell
On Fri, 1 Jan 2010 20:00:28 -0800 (PST) Neil Short nesh...@yahoo.com replied: Does it include a thesaurus? Until at least recently there was no English (American) language thesaurus. BTW, have fun with the 'extensions'. I have seen grown men cry trying to get them installed correctly in FreeBSD; much less get them to work correctly. If you have any other word processor available, irregardless of OS, I would strongly recommend using it. -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com |=== |=== |=== |=== | I look at life as being cruise director on the Titanic. I may not get there, but I'm going first class. Art Buchwald ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Boot from FD and DR-DOS prompt comes up while installing FreeBSD?
On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 18:00:07 +0800 Paul Shi shih...@hkusua.hku.hk replied: Dear Everyone, I am working my way t setup a FTP server on FreeBSD however I got stuck at the very first stage - installation of FreeBSD 8.0. I downloaded FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE-i386-dvd1.iso from FreeBSD.org and burned it with NERO to a DVD-RW disc. After that, I insert the DVD disc and boot from CDROM as I have chose the CDROM to be first one in boot order. However, system starts booting from FD, invokes some Caldera DR-DOS and goes to command prompt [DR-DOS] A:\ I am totally confused and cannot find any answer in FreeBSD handbook. I will greatly appreciate your help if anyone of you has experience with this weird problem. Thank you very much and Happy New Year Reboot and get into the BISO setup utility. Insure that the drives are set to boot in the correct order. In your case, the drive you are inserting the CD into to bootup. If you are only going to be using FreeBSD on the system, you could just wipe the drive clean and then install FreeBSD also. A free utility, FreeDOS http://www.freedos.org/ is rather simple to use. -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com |=== |=== |=== |=== | When in trouble or in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Openoffice3 and aspell
On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 15:06:35 +0100 Randall Wood rand...@woodbriceno.net replied: On Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 06:22:13AM -0500, Jerry wrote: On Fri, 1 Jan 2010 20:00:28 -0800 (PST) Neil Short nesh...@yahoo.com replied: Does it include a thesaurus? Until at least recently there was no English (American) language thesaurus. BTW, have fun with the 'extensions'. I have seen grown men cry trying to get them installed correctly in FreeBSD; much less get them to work correctly. If you have any other word processor available, irregardless of OS, I would strongly recommend using it. I use Softmaker Office; the Linux binary works fine on FreeBSD. It's closed source and you've got to pay for it, which turns most people off. But if you can get past those two characteristics, it's a wonderful office suite, and the word processor has both dictionary and thesaurus. It's furthermore extremely fast, especially compared to OO.o. www.softmaker.de I am rather surprised at the price. It is identical to what I could purchase the Microsoft Home Student version for. The only difference between HS and the Standard edition is that Outlook and PowerPoint are not included. -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com |=== |=== |=== |=== | ingrate, n: A man who bites the hand that feeds him, and then complains of indigestion. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
spamassassin - Y2K10 bug
There is an apparent bug in 'spamassassin' regarding 2010 e-mails. The full story is available here: http://spamassassin.apache.org/. There is also a discussion of it on SlashDot: http://it.slashdot.org/story/10/01/02/0027207/SpamAssassin-2010-Bug -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com |=== |=== |=== |=== | Just saying no prevents teenage pregnancy the way Have a nice day cures chronic depression. Faye Wattleton http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faye_Wattleton ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: sendmail: open-relay
On Mon, 04 Jan 2010 13:51:36 +0100 Peter Ulrich Kruppa ulr...@pukruppa.net replied: Hi, I am running my own small mail-server, i.e. I use my desktop pc for sending and receiving my private mails. That worked quite nicely the last years. From time to time I tested my mail-server via abuse.net's mail-relay tester. - Never got any positives. Now suddenly I receive one: This is a test of third-party mail relay, generated via the Network Abuse Clearinghouse at http://www.abuse.net. Target host = 213.146.114.24 pukruppa.net Test performed by ulr...@pukruppa.net from 213.146.114.24 A well-configured mail server should NOT relay third-party email. Otherwise, the server is subject to abuse by vandals and spammers, and probable blacklisting by recipients of the unwanted third-party e-mail. Of course I had some fun trying to read sendmail's documentation. But I guess I need some help with this. I am running FreeBSD -STABLE 8.0 amd64 . I don't think I ever played around with sendmail's configuration. I just use it as came out of the box. Any ideas? Uli. I just tried and received a Relaying denied response. By the way, I noticed that you apparently do not employ SMTP Authentication or offer STARTTLS on either port 25 or 587. You might want to consider employing them. Then again, you could just install Postfix. It is far easier to configure. -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com |=== |=== |=== |=== | It destroys one's nerves to be amiable every day to the same human being. Benjamin Disraeli ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: sendmail: open-relay
On Mon, 04 Jan 2010 14:33:54 +0100 Peter Ulrich Kruppa ulr...@pukruppa.net replied: I just tried and received a Relaying denied response. By the way, I noticed that you apparently do not employ SMTP Authentication or offer STARTTLS on either port 25 or 587. You might want to consider employing them. Then again, you could just install Postfix. It is far easier to configure. What exactly did you try, Jerry? I used both the IP address and the domain name. Same results either way. Go to: http://www.checkor.com/ and type in your IP: 213.146.114.24 and you will notice that no errors are displayed. Your server is accepting the Mail From: then refusing to relay the mail. If you employed SMTP Authentication it would not even get that far. quote 220 pukruppa.net ESMTP Sendmail 8.14.3/8.14.3; Mon, 4 Jan 2010 15:39:34 +0100 (CET) HELO ortest.checkor.com 250 pukruppa.net Hello www.no-ip.com [204.16.252.112], pleased to meet you RSET 250 2.0.0 Reset state MAIL FROM: t...@checkor.com 250 2.1.0 t...@checkor.com... Sender ok RCPT TO: te...@checkor.com 550 5.7.1 te...@checkor.com... Relaying denied RSET 250 2.0.0 Reset state MAIL FROM: 501 5.5.2 Syntax error in parameters scanning FROM RCPT TO: te...@checkor.com 503 5.0.0 Need MAIL before RCPT RSET 250 2.0.0 Reset state MAIL FROM: s...@213.146.114.24 250 2.1.0 s...@213.146.114.24... Sender ok RCPT TO: te...@checkor.com 550 5.7.1 te...@checkor.com... Relaying denied RSET 250 2.0.0 Reset state MAIL FROM: s...@213.146.114.24 250 2.1.0 s...@213.146.114.24... Sender ok RCPT TO: te...@checkor.com 550 5.7.1 te...@checkor.com... Relaying denied RSET 250 2.0.0 Reset state MAIL FROM: s...@213.146.114.24 250 2.1.0 s...@213.146.114.24... Sender ok RCPT TO: te...@213.146.114.24 550 5.7.1 te...@213.146.114.24... Relaying denied RSET 250 2.0.0 Reset state MAIL FROM: s...@213.146.114.24 250 2.1.0 s...@213.146.114.24... Sender ok RCPT TO: te...@test.com@213.146.114.24 550 5.7.1 te...@test.com@213.146.114.24... Relaying denied RSET 250 2.0.0 Reset state MAIL FROM: s...@213.146.114.24 250 2.1.0 s...@213.146.114.24... Sender ok RCPT TO: @213.146.114.24:spamt...@checkor.com 550 5.7.1 @213.146.114.24:spamt...@checkor.com... Relaying denied /quote -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com |=== |=== |=== |=== | You are slower than a herd of turtles stampeding through peanut butter. Anonymous ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Catastrophic Installation Failure now!
On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 09:17:35 -0800 (PST) jaymax jayma...@gmail.com articulated: I was frustrated by a failure to create a ROOT password and decided to do a clean reinstall Did a make deinstall from the following ports [i] /usr/ports/databases/mysql54-server [ii] /usr/ports/databases/mysql54-client [iii]/usr/ports/databases/mysql54-scripts Did a rm of the /etc/my.cnf file (There were no others in related or relevant areas) Try this. pkg_delete -dfv mysql* That should delete all traces of MySQL You might also want to backup the contents of the /var/db/mysql folder also. In any case, delete the folder and it contents. While you are at it, delete the files in /usr/ports/distfiles also. Update the ports tree, and cd to the version of mysql you want to install. Run make config to insure it is configured correctly. Run; make install make clean Make sure that the correct entry is in the /etc/rc.conf file to enable MySQL to start on boot. I think it is: mysql_enable=YES. Either reboot or cd to the /usr/local/etc/rc.d directory and run the mysql startup script. I believe ./mysql is correct. This should create all of the necessary files and directories you need to initialise MySQL. -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
USB 3.0
I just found this regarding USB 3.0: Hewlett-Packard has begun shipping some Envy 15 laptop configurations with USB 3.0 technology, becoming one of the first PC makers to do so. The full article is available here: http://www.win7news.net/100114-HP-Laptop-USB3 Will FreeBSD be able to take advantage of this updated technology? -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com |=== |=== |=== |=== | Vermouth always makes me brilliant unless it makes me idiotic. E. F. Benson ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
FreeBSD + exFAT
I know that this was asked approximately 1 year ago; however, I was wondering if there had been any movement on it. Specifically, getting FreeBSD to recognize the 'exFAT' format. It is becoming a very common format for use on removable drives. URLs: http://bhandler.spaces.live.com/Blog/cns!70F64BC910C9F7F3!5216.entry?w http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ExFAT http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa914353.aspx http://support.microsoft.com/kb/955704 -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com |=== |=== |=== |=== | Advice to young men: Be ascetic, and if you can't be ascetic, then at least be aseptic. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Server set up
On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 18:12:53 + davidowe...@yahoo.co.uk davidowe...@yahoo.co.uk articulated: Can i install free bsd on a Window's 98 machine and what do i need on the machine to set it up as a server and what software and hardware does it need This might answer some of your questions: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/ -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com |=== |=== |=== |=== | Winter is nature's way of saying, Up yours. Robert Byrne ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Dislike the way port conflicts are handled now
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 13:18:15 -0600 Programmer In Training p...@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us articulated: That does nothing for conflict resolution, though. That's a big concern for me because in the past, only one distribution of Linux (not having used any of the BSD's before, cannot comment on them except for what I'm seeing in this discussion) that I've used seems to handle not only package dependency with ease and grace, but also conflict resolution (in the sense that the only time I've had an issue with conflicts was when an updated package wasn't available or an older required package was discontinued). I like the fact that FreeBSD checks for conflicts early, but erroring out without anything really useful is a negative for me. Instead of erroring out, why not initiate some sort of conflict resolution (e.g. remove and or update an old port) when the conflict is first detected? Yes, it may very well mean increased time to install a package, especially if compiling from source, but I find that a more elegant solution then just erroring out and requiring yet another manual step. Of course there could be an option to opt-out of this sort of behavior too, for those who like the extra steps. If I remember correctly, 'portmanager -y' removed conflicting ports prior to installing a new or updated port. -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com |=== |=== |=== |=== | Children begin by loving their parents. After a time they judge them. Rarely, if ever, do they forgive them. Oscar Wilde ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Restarting after Make Install....
On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 20:13:33 -0500 Roger Roger rno...@gmail.com articulated: I'm not a FreeBSD expert so I cannot speak about what is considered best pratices but I never restart my server after doing a port install/reinstall/upgrade/removal. I guess the only time you will need to do that is when your port may be a kernel module that cannot be unloaded/reloaded without causing major problems. I only do a ports update when there are a significance number of programs that I have installed that have updates available. If the major players like OpenLDAP, MySQL, Postfix, Apache, etc are all to be updated at one time, I usually choose to reboot after the process has completed. It is not that I feel it is absolutely necessary; but rather that I want to insure that they will in fact all start up correctly, and in some cases, like Postfix, in the correct order. I have on rare occasions found discrepancies on how the system starts and performs after a major update. At worst, you lose only a minute or so of up time, assuming your machine is not a mission critical one. At best, you might discover a problem that might have gone unknown for an extended period of time. I think that the old English saying: six of one, a half dozen of the other is appropriate to the situation. Just my 2¢. -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com |=== |=== |=== |=== | You are only young once, but you can stay immature indefinitely. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Problem with GnuPG
I posted this recently on the GnuPG forum; however, no one had ever seen it before. FreeBSD-7.2 gpg (GnuPG) 2.0.14 libgcrypt 1.4.4 gpa 0.9.0 I honestly have no idea what the problem is here. I recently installed GnuPG on my system. Everything appeared to go fine. For some reason, I have numerous keys listed that I have no knowledge of. This URL shows the keys: http://seibercom.net/gnupg/KeyListing.png These are not OpenPGP keys, but x.509 certificates. I have no idea why they are showing up in the listing, nor can I delete them. GnuPG no longer works with my MUA either.I have tried deleting GnuPG in its entirety and the ~/.gnupg directory. That did not alleviate the problem. Once I reinstalled them, the problem resurfaced. Other than dumping the whole system, reformatting and re-installing the OS, has anyone ever heard of this happening before; and if so, how to correct it? -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com |=== |=== |=== |=== | Lunatic Asylum, n.: The place where optimism most flourishes. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Problem with GnuPG
On Mon, 25 Jan 2010 00:16:06 -0700 Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com articulated: On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 06:19:58AM -0500, Jerry wrote: I posted this recently on the GnuPG forum; however, no one had ever seen it before. FreeBSD-7.2 gpg (GnuPG) 2.0.14 libgcrypt 1.4.4 gpa 0.9.0 I honestly have no idea what the problem is here. I recently installed GnuPG on my system. Everything appeared to go fine. For some reason, I have numerous keys listed that I have no knowledge of. This URL shows the keys: http://seibercom.net/gnupg/KeyListing.png These are not OpenPGP keys, but x.509 certificates. I have no idea why they are showing up in the listing, nor can I delete them. GnuPG no longer works with my MUA either.I have tried deleting GnuPG in its entirety and the ~/.gnupg directory. That did not alleviate the problem. Once I reinstalled them, the problem resurfaced. I've never heard of anything like this with GnuPG either, and I'm really not sure how you'd end up with a bunch of X.509 certificates in a GnuPG keyring. I do have a hypothesis for you to investigate, however: You're using a tool I don't know anything about from personal experience. Specifically, I'm talking about GPA. I've always just used the command line tools. Because what you describe doesn't seem to make any sense for the functionality of GnuPG, and you have this featureful GUI application for managing keys, I thought maybe that was the place to look. The contents of the pkg-descr file for security/gpa say: The GNU Privacy Assistant is a graphical frontend to GnuPG and may be used to manage the keys and encrypt/decrypt/sign/check files. It is much like Seahorse. WWW: http://gpa.wald.intevation.org/ Checking the site didn't really give me any information at all, but the pkg-descr file for Seahorse says: Seahorse is a Gnome front end for GnuPG - the Gnu Privacy Guard program. It is a tool for secure communications and data storage. Data encryption and digital signature creation can easily be performed through a GUI and Key Management operations can easily be carried out through an intuitive interface. WWW: http://seahorse.sourceforge.net/ Looking at the Seahorse site, it says it supports GnuPG keys *and* SSH keys. It lists a few other things it does, including an ambiguous and frustratingly undefined More I hunted around a bit and, on the developer wiki, found a short list labeled To Do (Grand Plans and Quackery) that included Support X.509 certificates as its first item. My thought is, if the GPA developers are following a similar path to what the Seahorse developers are doing, they might even have gotten to X.509 certs first. If that's the case, GPA may have just automagically hunted up the X.509 certificates used by your browser and added them to the list of managed keys. Given the notion that GPA may have a bunch of functionality and features that aren't even known to the user, and that it may try to magically do things its developers assume people want, it's possible that it is interfering somehow in the proper operation of GnuPG with regard to your MUA. Perhaps some configuration file(s) for GPA, separate from the GnuPG configuration directory itself, are surviving the uninstalls and reinstalls of your various OpenPGP related tools -- and maybe that's the reason it isn't currently working with your MUA. It could be worth investigating. Is the manpage for GPA any help at all (since there doesn't appear to be any documentation at all on the Website)? I'm curious about what's causing the problem, so if/when you get this sorted out, I'd appreciate it if you'd let me know anything you learn about the problem. I may try to help you investigate the matter further as well if you keep me abreast of what you uncover about the matter. Of course, I don't plan to install GPA anywhere, so my ability to look into it is *somewhat* limited, but I might be able to pitch in a little as time permits. Other than dumping the whole system, reformatting and re-installing the OS, has anyone ever heard of this happening before; and if so, how to correct it? I'm sure there's *something* you can do without nuking and paving -- even if it's somewhat drastic, like selecting a different MUA (if, for instance, a change in one of the tools or in the MUA itself has introduced an incompatibility somewhere). Oh, that reminds me . . . is it possible that a change has been made to some configuration for the MUA itself, without your knowledge? What *is* your MUA, anyway? Good luck. OK, I posted this on the 'GnuPG' list earlier; however, since you requested further info, here it is. This is the file that apparently GPA is loading that has those pesky 'certs': /usr/local/share/gnupg -r--r--r--1 root wheel27K
Re: Replacing base NTP with ports NTP
On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 02:06:53 +1100 David Rawling d...@pdconsec.net articulated: Greetings all and sundry About 3 months ago I built myself a time server using 8.0-RC3, IIRC, and I upgraded to 8.0-RELEASE (and now -p2). Naturally, as I want this server to provide time services, I've installed the net/ntp port, among others. Recently, for reasons that have become lost in the mists of time, I noticed that I wasn't running the port version of NTP (/usr/local/sbin/ntpd), but the version installed with the base system (/usr/sbin/ntpd). For the immediate term, I've renamed the base versions of the files in /usr/sbin, and then symlinked to the port version (in /usr/local) - ntpd is now the ports version, as are most of the tools. This does, however, seem like a rather silly way of getting the most current NTPd running. I cannot, for the life of me, figure out how to get the Ports version of NTP to overwrite the base system's NTP. Yet I'm sure (since there *is* a port of NTP) there must be a better way to do this. Can anyone point me in the direction of some documentation? Dave. From the /etc/defaults/rc.conf file: ntpdate_enable=NO # Run ntpdate to sync time on boot (or NO). ntpdate_program=/usr/sbin/ntpdate # path to ntpdate, if you want a different one. ntpdate_flags=-b # Flags to ntpdate (if enabled). ntpdate_config=/etc/ntp.conf # ntpdate(8) configuration file ntpdate_hosts=# Whitespace-separated list of ntpdate(8) servers. ntpd_enable=NO# Run ntpd Network Time Protocol (or NO). ntpd_program=/usr/sbin/ntpd # path to ntpd, if you want a different one. ntpd_config=/etc/ntp.conf # ntpd(8) configuration file ntpd_sync_on_start=NO # Sync time on ntpd startup, even if offset is high ntpd_flags=-p /var/run/ntpd.pid -f /var/db/ntpd.drift # Flags to ntpd (if enabled). Enter the appropriate line(s) into your /etc/rc.conf file. DO NOT modify the /etc/defaults/rc.conf file. -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com |=== |=== |=== |=== | You will soon meet a person who will play an important role in your life. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Pain finding packages
On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 10:48:23 -0800 (PST) Joe Springer joe...@yahoo.com articulated: Hi. I am very new to FreeBSD with several years of Linux experience. After installed FreeSDB for the first time, I wanted to install some packages. For example, samba. I found that pkg_add -r samba fails. I need to know specifically the samba version to install it. To install, I needed do this: pkg_add -r samba3 This is difficult. Do I need to look up every package in advance on your website to understand what version I need to install? Isn't there a way to specify Install the latest version of some package that is appropriate to the version of my installed FreeBSD? You didn't specify exactly what you wanted installed. Just specifying 'samba' is useless. There are several versions of samba, as well as ports that begin with samba. For example: Port: ja-samba-3.0.35,1 Path: /usr/ports/japanese/samba3 Info: Japanese Samba Port: gnosamba-0.3.3_5 Path: /usr/ports/net/gnosamba Info: Samba configuration tool for X Window System Port: gsambad-0.1.9_3 Path: /usr/ports/net/gsambad Info: Gtk2 Frontend for samba daemon Port: p5-Samba-LDAP-0.05_1 Path: /usr/ports/net/p5-Samba-LDAP Info: Manage a Samba PDC with an LDAP Backend Port: py26-samba-3.0.37 Path: /usr/ports/net/py-samba Info: Python bindings for Samba Port: samba-libsmbclient-3.0.37 Path: /usr/ports/net/samba-libsmbclient Info: Shared libs from the samba package Port: samba-nmblookup-3.0.37 Path: /usr/ports/net/samba-nmblookup Info: NetBIOS Name lookup tool Port: samba-pdbsql-0.3.1_1 Path: /usr/ports/net/samba-pdbsql Info: Multiplexor, MySQL and PostgeSQL passdb backends for Samba3 Port: samba-smbclient-3.0.37 Path: /usr/ports/net/samba-smbclient Info: Samba ftp-like client Port: samba-3.0.37,1 Path: /usr/ports/net/samba3 Info: A free SMB and CIFS client and server for UNIX Port: samba-3.2.15 Path: /usr/ports/net/samba32 Info: A free SMB and CIFS client and server for UNIX Port: samba-3.3.9 Path: /usr/ports/net/samba33 Info: A free SMB and CIFS client and server for UNIX Port: samba4-devel-4.0.0.a8_2 Path: /usr/ports/net/samba4-devel Info: A free SMB and CIFS client and server for UNIX Port: samba4wins-1.0.7_1 Path: /usr/ports/net/samba4wins Info: A full featured replicating WINS server for UNIX Port: sambasentinel-0.1_5 Path: /usr/ports/net/sambasentinel Info: SambaSentinel is a gtk-frontend to smbstatus with additional features Port: cups-samba-6.0_2 Path: /usr/ports/print/cups-samba Info: The Common UNIX Printing System: MS Windows client drivers Port: samba-vscan-0.3.6c_2 Path: /usr/ports/security/samba-vscan Info: On-access virus scanning with Samba Port: japanese/samba20 Moved: japanese/samba Date: 2003-04-13 Reason: security vulnerability Port: net/samba-tng Moved: Date: 2003-08-07 Reason: port was marked broken for 3 months with no fix submitted Port: net/samba-devel Moved: net/samba3 Date: 2004-06-07 Reason: considered stable Port: net/samba Moved: net/samba3 Date: 2006-09-02 Reason: Security vulnerabilities Port: japanese/samba Moved: japanese/samba3 Date: 2008-07-21 Reason: Superseded by japanese/samba3 Port: net/samba32-devel Moved: net/samba32 Date: 2009-02-16 Reason: Samba 3.2 became stable enough to be used in production. Did you read man pkg_add(1) thoroughly before using the utility? -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com |=== |=== |=== |=== | Systems programmers are the high priests of a low cult. R. S. Barton ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: fstab syntax
On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 22:05:43 +0300 Jeff Laine wtf.jla...@gmail.com articulated: Hello, My question is regarding /etc/fstab synax. How can I use spaces and quote symbols in my device name? I tried to use double quotes and backslash, but no luck so far. I.e. I'd like to put the following line: /dev/msdosfs/MY FLASH /mnt/flash msdosfs rw,noauto 0 0 As far as I know, that cannot be done. I saw something about that here awhile ago. Perhaps, a patch has been submitted that will modify its behavior by now. -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com |=== |=== |=== |=== | Don't try to outweird me, three-eyes. I get stranger things than you free with my breakfast cereal. Zaphod Beeblebrox ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
System Crash + Firefox-3.5.7
I have been experiencing one or two system crashes a day for over a week now. For no apparent reason, when starting Firefox, the system will freeze for approximately 10 seconds or so, then reboot. This does not happen every-time. It seems to happen maybe every third or forth time, although that is not a proven fact. The /var/crash directory is starting to fill up with crash files -- bounds, vmcore.x info.x and I have no idea what to do with them. Can I just delete them or is there somebody who investigates these spontaneous crashes/reboots. This is happening on a FreeBSD-7.2 machine. -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com |=== |=== |=== |=== | Dibble's First Law of Sociology: Some do, some don't. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
