Re: NFS and crossmount
On Monday 16 November 2009 06:10:23 Patrik Usher wrote: I'm chaning fileserver to a FreeBSD 7.2 from my old linux and can't find how to define the option crossmnt (crossmount) for NFS. Does anyone know if it's supported under FreeBSD 7 and if so, how to define it ? I don't believe a similar option is available. You need a line in /etc/exports for each filesystem (mountpoint) you wish to export. JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Failure to do netinstall
On Friday 30 October 2009 03:12:29 Vadim Maksimenko wrote: I have faced an unpleasant fact that your netinstall ability of 7.2 RELEASE and 8.0-RC2 are dead. My network card is being identified and initialized properly (an old 3com980), it gets DHCP setup (IP, gateway, DNS info is ok), but... That's all that is done properly. When I try to select any flavor of network install, it crashes with a message like Cannot connect bla bla bla: the connect is in wrong state. I just did a network installation of 8.0-RC2 yesterday (albeit from an 8.0-RC1 bootonly CD) so I'm fairly certain it's not totally broken. Since you apparently got a valid DHCP lease on your NIC it's probably not the card or the driver that's broken either What should I do now if I want to install FreeBSD via network and have no option of changing the hardware? We need to figure out what _is_ wrong. Can you provide more details of the exact steps you took during the setup? Do you have the exact error message? Guessing wildly, it's entirely possible that sysinstall got confused at some point. Did you have to repeat the network configuration or FTP server selection? Did you try repeating the installation after a reboot? JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Change one file in an ISO image
On Thursday 17 September 2009 17:09:28 Tim Judd wrote: On 9/16/09, Gelsema, P (Patrick) - FreeBSD free...@superhero.nl wrote: I need to change one file in an existing ISO image. It is a DVD image btw. Unfortunately I dont have many options of changing the fie before creating the image. the cd9660/iso9660 filesystem type doesn't support rw options. Even if you mdconfig and mount -o rw, it is mounted ro If your change does not require altering the size of the file you wish to edit you may be able to just use a hex editor. I don't know enough about the ISO 9660 filesystem to say whether and how often it fragments files, but for a localized change you should be able to find the block containing the original file data and alter it. On the plus side you can check your work by mounting the modified ISO image and making sure you got the right file, etc. JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: [OFF?] Mac OX Driver
On Sep 13, 2009, at 2:53 PM, Mario Lobo ml...@digiart.art.br wrote: Sorry to put a lame question here but I need a little feedback as to keep my hopes up or bury them. I have an old sound board (echo gina20) that I need to keep using (for $$$ reasons), but I also must upgrade my OSes to 64 bits. There are XP 32bit drivers but no XP 64bit ones for it. There are no Gina20 drivers for freebsd but there IS a Mac OS X driver for it!. Is it possible to use a Mac driver on FreeBSD? In a word, no. If you have access to the source it should be possible to port the driver, but there's no reason to assume the effort would be trivial. Has this ever been tried or done? should I bury my hopes? See above. Drivers do get ported between OSes all the time but there's no magic involved. FreeBSD and Darwin have very different kernel origins. Snow Leopard may be your friend. JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: [OFF?] Mac OX Driver
On Sep 13, 2009, at 8:22 PM, Mario Lobo ml...@digiart.art.br wrote: On Sunday 13 September 2009 17:39:50 John Nielsen wrote: origins. Snow Leopard may be your friend. JN What do you mean by that, John? What help can I get from Snow Leopard? Your only stated OS requirement other than your soundcard working was 64-bit support, and Snow Leopard provides that (even more than its predecessors). If the mac driver for your card still works in that version then it might fit the bill. Of course if you have other requirements or preferences then it may not, I was just throwing it out as an idea. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: RAID10 setup
You're on the right track, additional comments inline. On Saturday 22 August 2009 06:49:06 am Phil Lewis wrote: This question was asked a few weeks ago, but the original poster must have had their questions amswered. As follow-ups offered further assistance given more detail, I wonder if I could be so bold as to provide that detail for my own circumstances. I have six disks: ad4 - 500MB ad5 - 500MB ad6 - 500MB ad7 - 400MB ad8 - 500MB ad10 - 500MB These are SATA drives, with ad8 and ad10 on a PCIe SATA controller. ad7 was my first disk and currently contains FreeBSD7.2-RELEASE. I've been using that to gain some familiarity with FreeBSD, but it need not be preserved (in fact, I'd rather not preserve it!). When I built the machine, I just plugged the 400GB drive in any old slot, so it can move if that makes sense. When I got the new drives I tried to get identical to the 400GB drive, but couldn't. The 400GB drive currently has a single slice using the full drive. Just make sure you have the disk(s) you plan to boot from on a controller that will boot in your machine. If the controllers have different performance characteristics then you probably want to share the wealth of the better one between multiple mirrors. What I'd like to end up with is a three-way stripe across three two-way mirrors, containing as much of the system as possible. This is certainly do-able. If it were me I'd put the whole OS on the spare change partitions and leave the whole stripe for your serious data consumer(s): /home, /data, possibly /usr/local or some or all of /var, etc. Depends on your intended use of the storage naturally. I understand that you can't boot from a stripe, so some part of some disk will have to be outside the stripe. However, as the stripe will also be limited to the smallest disk, I'm going to have 5 x 100 GB bits left over anyway, so I guess /boot can go on one of these..? Absolutely. I'd make a gmirror of two or three of them and put / on it. If you really want to be minimal w/ your use of the extra space then you could do /boot as you propose. If possible, I'd like set this up pre-install. If it has to be done post-install, or is easier to describe how to do post-install, then that's fine. Either will work. Exactly how you do it depends on how much of the base system you want to end up on the stripe. From here on in, this email becomes speculative. All of the examples I've seen for setting up GEOM stripes and mirrors have used the raw disk as the base-level provider. On the other hand, I've seen nothing that says that the bottom level cannot be a slice, rather than a raw disk, and given the way GEOM works, I suspect this is true. Yes, you can use partitions, slices or any other GEOM providers as members of gstripe, gmirror and friends. My current plan, based on this assumption, is as follows: With my current FreeBSD installation, create 2 slices on each 500GB disk, 1 x ~400GB, 1 x ~100GB (the same size as the slice of my 400GB disk, and the rest of the disk). Boot from the FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE dvd, and enter fixit mode. I'm not sure which would be best, or even if both are feasible for what I want to do. (I was at this point in my researchwhen I found this post!). From here, kldload geom_stripe and kldload geom_mirror. Then, create the three mirrors: gmirror label -v main0 /dev/ad4s1 /dev/ad5s1 gmirror label -v main1 /dev/ad6s1 /dev/ad571 gmirror label -v main2 /dev/ad8s1 /dev/ad10s1 This should give me /mirror/main0|main1|main2, right? Right. Next create the stripe: gstripe label -v -s 131072 raid10 /dev/mirror/main0 /dev/mirror/main1 /dev/mirror/main2 (that's all one line) If I'm right so far, then hopefully I should be able to boot to the install dvd again (or just rerun sysnstall?), and from there I should be able to choose a slice from outside 'raid10' to mount /boot, and use 'raid10' for everything else. Do I need anything else on a non-striped slice? /boot or equivalent is the only thing required to smell like a normal disk (which gmirror is capable of but gstripe isn't). You may want to use some of the space for swap. The virtual memory system should do its own version of stripe or interleave if you feed it multiple swap devices. Maybe I could even create another mirror: gmirror label -v boot /dev/ad4s2 /dev/ad5s2 and use that to mount /boot, leaving me with s2 on ad6,8 and 10 as 3 spare 100GB slices? Or am I just way off track? You seem to be pretty well on track. It seems you've already parsed the gstripe and gmirror man pages. You should probably look at fdisk(8) and bsdlabel(8) as well in case sysinstall doesn't tie up all your loose ends. Additionally you could just reinstall to a plain disk (or use your existing installation) and use dump/restore (and/or rsync) to move your filesystems to their multi-disk destinations. PS. I
Re: Getting rid of X
On Wednesday 19 August 2009 12:17:10 Scott Schappell wrote: In a parallel sort of thread to the current desktop thread, when I installed FreeBSD 7.2 since I had plenty of disk space and memory I installed X, however, I don't need it or really want it. How can I pare that out of the system short of doing a complete rebuild? Install and run pkg-cutleaves, and let it loop through as many iterations as it needs. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: amd64 native ports?
On Thursday 06 August 2009 10:19:47 Robert Huff wrote: Somewhere in *.freebsd.org is a page that lists which ports run natively on amd64 and what the status is for the others. I've seen it, I have it bookmarked in a place that is currently unavailable, and I can't find it by hand. Anyone have the URL handy? There's always the build logs on pointyhat: http://pointyhat.freebsd.org/errorlogs/ And some reports here: http://portsmon.freebsd.org/index.html Not sure which of those is exactly what you're looking for though. HTH, JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
7.2 CD won't boot
Hi guys, My 7.2 Release Disc 1 won't boot. I get the following and nothing more: CD Loader 1.2 Building the boot loader arguments Looking up /BOOT/LOADER... Found Relocating the loader and the BTX I'm running on a Intel SE7501BR2, single Xeon, 2GB. I have burned a second CD and swapped the CD drive, cable and RAM, all to no avail. I have a RR1520 RAID controller, but removed that as well. On-board SCSI controller and serial ports have been disabled, too. Nothing seems to make a difference. What on earth could be going on? Thanks, Brad Waite ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Striping a live file system RAID 10 help
On Wednesday 29 July 2009 15:54:42 Richard Fairbanks wrote: OK, so this is what I want to do. I have 4 big fast drives that I want to run in RAID 10 (1+0). So, I'll need to mirror two sets of two disks, then stripe those two mirrors. So, how do I do this if I want this striped set of mirrors to be my entire fs? I can create both mirrors and have the entire fs on one of the mirrors (*mirror0*), but then I need to stripe it with the other mirrors (*mirror1*), and trying to create a stripe (*stripe*) from that a set of mirrors in which one of the mirrors contains the live file system does not work, obviously. I was thinking, very generally, of creating the fstab file that I'll need to point to the stripe instead of ad4 for example, rsyncing everything to a disk on a diffferent server, using a live CD to create the stripe, then rsyncing back to the stripe. I don't know if this will work, and haven't even come to a conclusion of the particulars needed. When changing disk configurations on the same server I generally do everything by hand, then use dump+restore (rather than rsync) to move (UFS) filesystems around. (ZFS has zfs send/recv). Of course, if there is a way to create the striped set off mirrors before installation then installing onto that stripe, that'd be perfect. I don't know if that can be done. I'm sure someone has configured a RAID 10 standalone system before. (Oh, I'm using 7.2). I'm just stuck at this point! You need to consider where/how you are going to boot the system. It's straightforward to boot from a gmirror'ed UFS filesystem (the BIOS just uses one disk and thinks everything is normal), but you can't do the same from a stripe. You will either need a separate disk/device for your / or /boot partition or you will need to use slices/partitions on your disks. I frequently have the root filesystem on a small gmirror (partitions on 2 disks) then use the equivalent extra space on the remaining disk(s) for swap. Youi should be able to do this pre-install from the Fixit shell. Boot to the live CD, enter the shell, kldload geom_mirror and geom_stripe, create the mirrors, create the stripe, exit the shell, start the install, and tell sysinstall to use the device node under /dev/stripe for your filesystem. Alternatively you could just do a regular install to one of the disks and do everything post-install. In this case you'd still create two mirrors but one of them would only contain a single disk at first. Then create your stripe, dump/restore your files, update fstab (in both locations if needed), reboot using the stripe, then add the original system disk into its mirror. If you provide more details of how you want your setup to look I can give you a specific walkthrough if needed. JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD-update fails finding upgrade
On Wednesday 29 July 2009 11:31:51 Glen Barber wrote: On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Predrag Aleksicape...@gmail.com wrote: freebsd-update fetch Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 3 mirrors found. Fetching metadata signature for 7.2-RELEASE from update5.FreeBSD.org... done. Fetching metadata index... done. Inspecting system... done. Preparing to download files... done. No updates needed to update system to 7.2-RELEASE-p2. Is that normal? I mean, there obviously seems to be a 7.2-RELEASE-p3 but then why isn't my system getting updated to that? The patch version is only bumped when there is a change in the kernel. See also: http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/questions/2009-03/msg00069. html Also see also http://security.freebsd.org/advisories/FreeBSD-SA-09:12.bind.asc. And either be patient or use one of the other methods mentioned to update: NOTE: Due to this issue being accidentally disclosed early, updated binaries are yet not available via freebsd-update at the time this advisory is being published. Email will be sent to the freebsd-security mailing list when the binaries are available via freebsd-update. JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: VMWare ESX and FBSD 7.2 AMD64 guest
On Thursday 23 July 2009 19:44:15 Steve Bertrand wrote: This message has a foot that has nearly touched down over the OT borderline. We received an HP Proliant DL360G5 collocation box yesterday that has two processors, and 8GB of memory. All the client wants to use this box for is a single instance of Windows web hosting. Knowing the sites the client wants to aggregate into IIS, I know that the box is far over-rated. Making a long story short, they have agreed to allow us to put their Windows server inside of a virtual-ized container, so we can use the unused horsepower for other vm's (test servers etc). My problem is performance. I'm only willing to make this box virtual if I can keep the abstraction performance loss to 25% (my ultimate goal would be 15%). The following is what I have, followed by my benchmark findings: # 7.2-RELEASE AMD64 FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE #0: Fri May 1 07:18:07 UTC 2009 r...@driscoll.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU5150 @ 2.66GHz (2666.78-MHz K8-class CPU) Origin = GenuineIntel Id = 0x6f6 Stepping = 6 usable memory = 8575160320 (8177 MB) avail memory = 8273620992 (7890 MB) FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 cpu2 (AP): APIC ID: 6 cpu3 (AP): APIC ID: 7: Did you give the VM 4 virtual processors as well? How much RAM did it have? What type of storage does the server have? Did the VM just get a .vmdk on VMFS? What version of ESX? Benchmarks: # time make -j4 buildworld (under vmware) 5503.038u 3049.500s 1:15:46.25 188.1% 5877+1961k 3298+586716io 2407pf+0w # time make -j4 buildworld (native) 4777.568u 992.422s 33:02.12 291.1%6533+2099k 25722+586485io 3487pf+0w Note that the user time is within your 15% margin (if you round to the nearest percent). The system time is what's running away. My guess is that that is largely due to disk I/O and virtualization of same. What you can do to address this depends on what hardware you have. Giving the VM a raw slice/LUN/disk instead of a .vmdk file may improve matters somewhat. If you do use a disk file be sure that it lives on a stripe (or whatever unit is relevant) boundary of the underlying storage. Ways to do that (if any) depend on the storage. Improving the RAID performance, etc. of the storage will improve your benchmark overall, and may or may not narrow the divide. The (virtual) storage driver (mpt IIRC) might have some parameters you could tweak, but I don't know about that off the top of my head. ...both builds were from the exact same sources, and both runs were running with the exact same environment. I was extremely careful to ensure that the environments were exactly the same. I'd appreciate any feedback on tweaks that I can make (either to VMWare, or FreeBSD itself) to make the virtualized environment much more efficient. See above about storage. Similar questions come up periodically; searching the archives if you haven't already may prove fruitful. You may want to try running with different kernel HZ settings for instance. I would also try to isolate the performance of different components and evaluate their importance for your actual intended load. CPU and RAM probably perform like you expect out of the box. Disk and network I/O won't be as close to native speed, but the difference and the impact are variable depending on your hardware and load. A lightly-loaded Windows server is the poster child of virtualization candidates. If your decision is to dedicate the box to Winders or to virtualize and use the excess capacity for something else I would say it's a no-brainer if the cost of ESX isn't a factor (or if ESXi gives you similar performance). If that's already a given and your decision is between running a specific FreeBSD instance on the ESX host or on its own hardware then you're wise to spec out the performance differences. HTH, JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: OT: wget bug
On Friday 17 July 2009 06:12:33 pm Joe R. Jah wrote: I want to wget a site at regular intervals and only get the updated pages, so I use the this wget command line: wget -b -m -nH http://host.domain/Directory/file.html It works fine on the first try, but it fails on subsequent tries with the following error message: --8-- Connecting to host.domain ... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 401 Unauthorized Authorization failed. --8-- I can change directory from which to run wget every time, but that defeats the purpose of downloading only the changed files. I googled wget fails on second try and found this small patch in a Linux group that should supposedly fix the problem: --8-- --- wget-1.10.2/src/ftp.c.cwd 2006-12-03 13:23:08.801467652 +0100 +++ wget-1.10.2/src/ftp.c 2006-12-03 20:30:24.641876672 +0100 @@ -1172,7 +1172,7 @@ len = 0; err = getftp (u, len, restval, con); - if (con-csock != -1) + if (con-csock == -1) con-st = ~DONE_CWD; else con-st |= DONE_CWD; --8-- My wget is the latest version in the ports, 1.11.4. Any ideas or advise is greatly appreciated. I can't tell if your patch has already been applied upstream or if it's a reverse patch. The current distfile matches the +++ version at line 1185. (normally the +++ file is the new version but it's easy to get the order reversed if you're not used to running diff). You could always just try the patch. Something along the lines of this: cd /usr/ports/ftp/wget make clean make patch #extract the distfiles and apply FreeBSD patches cd work/wget-1.11.4/src vi ftp.c#or any editor you like ...go to line 1185 and change == to != ...save and quit the editor cd /usr/ports/ftp/wget make make deinstall make reinstall ... try your procedure again. If you don't like the results a make clean will erase your (modified) work directory and you can build the original version again. JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Utah Open Source Conference
On Wednesday 08 July 2009 23:02:00 Adam Barrett wrote: Dear Sir: That's your first misconception (of at least two, I'm afraid). freebsd-questions is a mailing list intended for users of FreeBSD to ask questions which can then be answered by other members of the community. My name is Adam Barrett and I am with the Utah Open Source Foundation.This coming October we are proud to present our Third Annual Utah Open Source Conference, the premier gathering of 600+ Geeks, Nerds, and just plain folks interested in Open Source and Technology. That's interesting. A link to http://utosc.com would have been helpful here. (I first landed at your blog via http://utahcon.com.) This year we would like to extend the opportunity to FreeBSD to sponsor our event. Misconception number two. FreeBSD is an operating system, not a corporation or other human entity. The FreeBSD Project consists mostly of developers and other volunteers, and is likely to have neither motive nor means to sponsor your event. I have attached a break down of our Sponsorship packages, which I think you will find are extremely generous. I would suggest that you go with a Diamond package. This will give you the best penetration you can get in our conference. See above. While we (and I use the term as a member of the community only, I don't speak for the FreeBSD Project) would like to see the project grow, paying for marketing is probably not the way it is going to happen. On the other hand, if you wanted to offer a non-profit booth (gratis) to the FreeBSD Foundation, that would certainly be appropriate and probably well-received. See http://freebsdfoundation.org for contact and other information. I look forward to seeing FreeBSD at the Utah Open Source Conference this fall! Maybe someone will show up with a laptop running FreeBSD. Or you could use a FreeBSD box to provide network services for the conference.. JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: port for separation audio from video in mp4 file
On Monday 08 June 2009 03:05:20 pm Stefan Miklosovic wrote: title says it, i downloaded mp4 file by youtube-dl, but it downloaded video and audio as well. I would like to separate audio from that file. i try to find some port in /usr/ports/audio but nothing reasonable occudred. For things that understand mp4 you should also look under ports/multimedia. The transcode program includes tcextract which is one way to do what you're asking. JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
fsck on 1.5TB drive
Hey guys... I just installed 7.2 on a 1.5TB RAID 5. I'm using about 10GB for the system and swap, and the rest for a single large partition to be used for backups. As of right now, the single partition, /bkup, is empty. When booting after an improper shutdown, the system starts the backgrounds fsck as usual and on all the other partitions, seem to take the normal amount of time. When it gets to the dirty /bkup however, fsck takes about 30 minutes - on an empty partition. On top of that, running a df shows that as much as 2GB of the partition is in use. There's a .snap directory off /bkup, but I can't ls it without the shell hanging. Is this normal behavior? Why is the fsck taking so long on an empty drive? What's the .snap dir for since I haven't run any dumps? Disk access on the rest of the system seems fine, so it doesn't appear to be an issue with the RAID itself. Thanks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
FreeBSD on USB drive for a MacBook Pro
I'm looking for advice and/or pointers. I have an Intel-based MacBook Pro and I would like to use a USB thumb drive to be able to boot FreeBSD on it. Some questions: 1) Is this even possible? I've read that you _can_ boot Mac OS X from a USB hard drive on a new MacBook but I'm not sure if the same goes for non-Mac OSen or thumb drives. 2) What steps should I take to partition the thing? What boot code should I use and where should it live? I'm planning to do a manual installation in any event. 3) If I manage to get 1 and 2 sorted out, will I be able to boot the same thumb drive on a regular PC? Will any additional steps be necessary? 4) Just to be contrary, I'd also like to use GELI (if possible) for everything but /boot. Does needing an extra /boot partition change anything? I'll be doing some experimenting, but if some things are already known (not) to work I'd like to start with as much info as possible. Thanks, JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Configuring an IPv6 router to assign addresses
On Wednesday 06 May 2009 10:39:24 am Odhiambo ワシントン wrote: On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 5:30 PM, af300...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I've found in the handbook how to start up a v6 router and some other helpful links on this topic at the FreeBSD diary. However, I'm wondering, how do I configure the router to assign addresses to hosts. Nice question. I wonder if isc-dhcp-server can already handle IPv6 addresses. I, too, am interested in knowing and I guess it's time I start learning these IPv6 stuff. Is there a reason you need to control the addresses used by your clients (other than the prefix)? I set up IPv6 on my LAN and while I have DHCPd running on the router for IPv4 addresses rtadvd is all I needed for IPv6. Clients assign themselves addresses based on the network prefix they learn from route solicitation and their own MAC address. That's supposed to be one of the reduced administration benefits of the new protocol. :) JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Broken Partition
It is best to include the list in all replies, so that people other than the original responder can offer additional help and so people searching the list archives in the future will have a complete picture. Also, not top-posting (putting replies in the context of the original message) is is preferred on this and many other lists. I've reformatted your message and added comments inline below. On Monday 04 May 2009 04:18:37 am Chris Chambers wrote: On Sun May 03 John Nielsen wrote: On Sunday 03 May 2009 09:26:42 pm Chris Chambers wrote: Using partition magic, I freed some space from my msdos partition. Then using sysinstall's fdisk and label, I attempted to add the space to my freebsd partition. I broke the installation. The boot loader can not find /boot/kernal. I tried mounting the partition under FixIt, but mount says broken argument. When you say add the space to my freebsd partition what exactly did you do? Sorry, what I meant by add the space to my freebsd partition was: I created the free space, giving me: ad0s1 ad0s2 Free Space ad0s3 I deleted and recreated ad0s3 in fdisk. Inside the label tool, I added swap space and mounted the remaining on / (as before). You forgot to say I made a backup. If you really skipped that step then hopefully you'll remember next time.. Did you write down the original values from fdisk and bsdlabel? Putting them back may be your best bet for recovery. I would avoid using _any_ swap until you have your data back. If your new free space had been _after_ the FreeBSD slice on the disk you may have had better luck. Since you moved the _beginning_ of your slice that changed the relative offsets of everything else which is probably why your filesystem is broken (I am not a UFS expert). What is surprising is that the loader ran at all... unless you used bsdlabel -B or similar. If you revert the fdisk and bsdlabel values, save your data and want to try again a safer approach would be to define a fourth slice to occupy the free space (yes it will be out of order but FreeBSD shouldn't care.. not sure about DOS or PartitionMagic). Then just use the slice as additional swap directly (no bsdlabel, just ad0s4). But do make a backup this time. What device nodes are listed for your disk from the fixit environment? Currently, the devices are: ad0s1 - DOS, type 7 ad0s2 - DOS, type 7 ad0s3 ad0s3a - UFS ad0s3b - Swap ad0s3c - ? The c partition is the raw partition and is always the same size as the underlying device (or should be). I don't know that it's used for much any more, but there are historical reasons it's there. I would settle for the ability to mount the drive so that I could retrieve a few files. Try reverting the fdisk and bsdlabel values (see above). JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Broken Partition
On Sunday 03 May 2009 09:26:42 pm Chris Chambers wrote: Using partition magic, I freed some space from my msdos partition. Then using sysinstall's fdisk and label, I attempted to add the space to my freebsd partition. I broke the installation. The boot loader can not find /boot/kernal. I tried mounting the partition under FixIt, but mount says broken argument. When you say add the space to my freebsd partition what exactly did you do? What device nodes are listed for your disk from the fixit environment? JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: CVS history access?
On Saturday 25 April 2009 09:12:50 pm Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 05:35:34 -0400, John Nielsen li...@jnielsen.net wrote: I'm working on a machine learning project and I'd like to use the FreeBSD src CVS commit history as a datasource. Is there a resource-friendly way for me to download some or all of it? Format isn't too big an issue. I tried a few cvs history commands against the anoncvs servers but get this: cvs [history aborted]: cannot open history file: /home/ncvs/CVSROOT/history: No such file or directory Do you really want just the `CVSROOT/history' file? We allow mirroring of the entire repository, which you can then use to extract any sort of historical commit data. (Well, _almost_ anything. Some things like repo-copies and renames of raw repository files have been done without any sort of record, so it may be impossible to recover *those* particular bits.) I'm basically looking for a list of all commits over the past N (2) years with committer, timestamp, affected file(s) and/or subsystems and possibly diff size information, etc. I don't know anything about the history file in particular other than that's what cvs complained about when I tried the cvs history commands against anoncvs. It looks like the /pub/FreeBSD/development/FreeBSD-CVS/src ftp path may have what I'm looking for (though it may be scattered through the individual files). I'll probably (try to) set up a local CVS repo and source it from there and see where that gets me. My CVS-fu is weak so I'm still open to pointers. We also have a Subversion repository now, that you can use to grab commit information. It takes slightly more disk space than the CVS repository, but subversion can export XML formatted commit logs, which may be slightly more useful if you plan to automate parts of the parsing and info-gathering. Yes, I'll definitely be automating the parsing, etc. Is it safe to assume that the cvs2svn migration went successfully? XML logs do sound appealing and aggregated (same time, multiple files) commits would be more useful than per-file. Can I just check everything out from svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/? Thanks! JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: [compiling installing FreeBSD]
On Monday 27 April 2009 11:42:15 am alligator...@free.fr wrote: does make installworld do any backup of the files it touch? is any way to failback that installworld? No. Restore from (your own) backups, installation media, or rebuild the world you need from appropriately-dated sources. I think I have read that make installkernel do a backup of the kernel in kernel.old but for the world I would like to know. That is correct, but it is only the kernel (and modules) that are backed up this way. JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: CVS history access?
On Monday 27 April 2009 12:39:53 pm Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 11:23:32 -0400, John Nielsen li...@jnielsen.net wrote: I'm basically looking for a list of all commits over the past N (2) years with committer, timestamp, affected file(s) and/or subsystems and possibly diff size information, etc. I don't know anything about the history file in particular other than that's what cvs complained about when I tried the cvs history commands against anoncvs. It looks like the /pub/FreeBSD/development/FreeBSD-CVS/src ftp path may have what I'm looking for (though it may be scattered through the individual files). I'll probably (try to) set up a local CVS repo and source it from there and see where that gets me. My CVS-fu is weak so I'm still open to pointers. There are online instructions for mirroring a full CVS copy, so it should be relatively easy to do that. It mostly boils down to setting up the necessary disk space somewhere locally, installing one of the CVSup ports and configuring a `supfile' like this: *default host=CHANGE_THIS.freebsd.org *default base=/path/to/local/cvs/mirror *default prefix=/path/to/local/cvs/mirror *default release=cvs *default delete use-rel-suffix *default compress cvs-all Thanks! I had forgotten about the cvs-all target. [additional helpful info snipped] We also have a Subversion repository now, that you can use to grab commit information. It takes slightly more disk space than the CVS repository, but subversion can export XML formatted commit logs, which may be slightly more useful if you plan to automate parts of the parsing and info-gathering. Yes, I'll definitely be automating the parsing, etc. Is it safe to assume that the cvs2svn migration went successfully? XML logs do sound appealing and aggregated (same time, multiple files) commits would be more useful than per-file. Can I just check everything out from svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/? The conversion from CVS to Subversion was ``good enough'' from what I see in the svn commit logs. So it may be a good idea to use `svnsync' to mirror the /base/ repository locally and take it from there. I installed the subversion-freebsd port and pulled in src from head. This lets me do e.g. svn log -g --xml locally and get an XML list of commits along the main (head/current) development line going back to 1993. For files changed with each revision I can do svn diff -c NUM --summarize. Is there a way to get this information integrated with the svn log output short of running the command for each revision in the log output? The instructions for mirroring the Subversion repository are a bit more involved, but if you decide to go that way, let me know and I will write a short description of how to do it. I checked out base/head and am in the process of checking out base/stable so I can get commit data from -STABLE branches as well. (I'll probably figure out when each branch (in CVS terms) was created and then use svn log to just get commits after that date for each branch). I don't know that I need to mirror the whole SVN repository but at this point I am planning on going the SVN route so if you have additional tips they would be appreciated. Thanks! JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: CVS history access?
On Monday 27 April 2009 03:29:03 pm Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 15:03:30 -0400, John Nielsen li...@jnielsen.net wrote: I installed the subversion-freebsd port and pulled in src from head. This lets me do e.g. svn log -g --xml locally and get an XML list of commits along the main (head/current) development line going back to 1993. For files changed with each revision I can do svn diff -c NUM --summarize. Is there a way to get this information integrated with the svn log output short of running the command for each revision in the log output? It's already part of 'svn log --xml' output if you use the -v option. When you use -v *and* --xml at the same time, an additional element is inserted to each changeset listing all the path changes: $ svn log -v --xml -c 191585 file:///home/svn/base ?xml version=1.0? log logentry revision=191585 authorrpaulo/author date2009-04-27T18:59:40.453027Z/date % paths % path %kind= % action=M/projects/mesh11s/sys/net80211/ieee80211_output.c/path % /paths msgAppend Mesh Configuration IE on probe responses and beacons. Sponsored by: The FreeBSD Foundation /msg /logentry /log I think the paths list of path changes is what you are after :) Exactly right. Thanks much! JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: maybe OT, but involves OOO its slideshow fmt, ``Impress''
On Friday 24 April 2009, Gary Kline wrote: This ought to help if I ever find a free speech synthesizer. I found one yesterday that must be a real human voice; unfortunately, commercial. audio/festival in the ports is decent and has a few voices to choose from. JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
CVS history access?
I'm working on a machine learning project and I'd like to use the FreeBSD src CVS commit history as a datasource. Is there a resource-friendly way for me to download some or all of it? Format isn't too big an issue. I tried a few cvs history commands against the anoncvs servers but get this: cvs [history aborted]: cannot open history file: /home/ncvs/CVSROOT/history: No such file or directory I'm not too experienced with cvs so if I'm missing something let me know. The Mailman archives for freebsd-cvs are one option, but I was hoping for more of a direct approach if possible. Thanks, JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: legal aspects in order to use the open source sw fsck_msdosfs
On Tuesday 21 April 2009 08:33:00 am Stefan Beskow wrote: Hello, My name is Stefan Beskow and I work as a configuration manager within Ericsson AB. I am investigating the legal aspects of the use of open source sw within a project. Could you please help me with information about license issues and copywriting issues ea for the fsck_msdosfs ? What is required in order to use the fsck_msdosfs software? fsck_msdosfs is provided under a BSD license like most of the rest of FreeBSD. See: http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/index.html and especially http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/freebsd-license.html. For fsck_msdosfs in particular, see also the comments at the top of the source files, e.g.: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sbin/fsck_msdosfs/main.c?rev=1.15.20.1;content-type=text%2Fplain. JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Build/Install world via ssh
On Wednesday 01 April 2009 05:38:47 pm Simon Griffiths wrote: Hello, I tried to get an answer to this via web searches etc. I have a freebsd 7 box that I plan on upgrading remotely via Make buildworld Make buildkernel KERNCONF=xyz Now im stuck, I cannot get it down to single user because I only have access via ssh. Would it hurt to Make installkernel KERNCONF=xyz Make installworld Mergemaster etc. Reboot What specific versions are you upgrading to/from? I personally do upgrades over SSH all the time (by skipping the single-user step) but there are reasons it's not recommended. If your new kernel doesn't work or play nicely for some reason you don't want to be stuck with a world newer than your (reinstalled) old kernel. If the system doesn't come back up multi-user for any of a variety of reasons then you won't have SSH access, etc. You should have good backups and a way to get console access if it's needed. That said, it usually works--especially for small incremental upgrades (7.0 to 7.1 or just different points along the same -STABLE branch, etc). So in a nutshell there are no guarantees but if you have an adequate bailout plan it can be a timesaver. JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: too many video drivers
On Tuesday 31 March 2009 03:08:14 pm Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote: I am rebuilding ports and realize that i have too many input/video drivers for x-win installed. i know i need nv driver since my graphic card is from nvidia, and i want to deinstall all others. but i am not sure if its safe to do so, e.g. i am confused by xf86-video-chips since i don't know what kind of chip that stands for. can someone tell me which are basics and which are safe to remove? thanks!! Obviously you should keep mouse, keyboard and whatever driver(s) you actually plan to use (nv in this case). It's also a good idea to keep vesa as a fallback option. I habitually also keep the dummy driver though I'm not sure what it's used for. Everything else is fair game and should be safe to remove. Chips is (or was) a video card vendor so if you don't have such a card it's safe to remove as well. JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Anyone know SunFire hardware
On Monday 02 March 2009 01:57:21 pm Paul Schmehl wrote: We have FreeBSD installed on a SunFire box running two AMD Opteron processors. I was upgrading to 7.1 STABLE on Friday, and after installing the kernel I rebooted. Now the box is completely unusable. Does anyone know how to get a SunFire box to boot from the CD ROM? Any changes I make to the BIOS seem to be completely ignored. When I get to the FreeBSD boot loader, I lose keyboard, so I can't even go to single user mode. Not being able to boot off the CD is a royal pita. I've done some Googling, and the most common answer seems to be hit STOP+A, but there is no STOP key on an Intel keyboard. Is there a magic incantation that will work? Maybe the entrails of a young goat? I've been working on an X2100 recently. Unfortunately it is running Linux but I was able to boot from both a FreeBSD CD (in an external USB CD drive) and a USB stick without issue. Keyboard was USB as well. F2 should take you to the BIOS setup screen, make sure you save your changes before exiting.. pretty standard AWARD-type BIOS. There's one screen where you can set the boot order between cdrom, hard drive, etc. and another submenu where you can set the hard drive boot priority. HTH, JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ping stucks/hangs on PCI 3com NIC sk0 interface but works on builtin NIC
On Wednesday 25 February 2009 12:35:23 pm Faizan ul haq Muhammad wrote: Hi I have two PCI NICs and one builtin NIC on freebsd 7.0 ifconfig shows information somthing like: bge0: flags=8843UP, broadcast, runing, simplex, multicastmetric 0 mtu 1500 options=9bRXCSUM,TXCSUM, VLAN_HWTAGGING. VLAN_HWCSUM ether 00:13:21:f8:7e:56 inet 192.168.0.1 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255 media: Ethernet autoselect (none) status: no carrier This is NIC doesn't appear to be plugged in. sk0: flags=8843UP, broadcast, runing, simplex, multicastmetric 0 mtu 1500 options=bRXCSUM,TXCSUM, VLAN_MTU ether 00:0a:5e:1a:69:25 inet 192.168.0.2 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255 media: Ethernet autoselect (none) status: no carrier Neither is this one. Note: bge0 is builtin NIC sk0 is 3com PCI NIC now after configuration of IPV4 Addresses, when i verify the configuration with ping if i ping bge0(ping 192.168.0.1) i get the response of success but when i ping sk0 (ping 192.168.0.2) Ping gets stuck and gives no response, neither it gives success or host unreachable or denied kinda errors.. Why do you want both interfaces to be configured on the same subnet? it just hangs over there.. and i can juz see one line of ping not proceeding anyway. and if I terminate it via CTRL C then i get statistics sumthing like 3 packets sent, 0 received and 100% loss... This is probably expected behavior. What does netstat -rn show? My guess is that the route for 192.168.0.0/24 is link#1 aka bge0 and since it's not plugged in to anything that's as far as it gets. I am stuck and my brain does not work any more here.. Can anybody help me ... JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ping stucks/hangs on PCI 3com NIC sk0 interface but works on builtin NIC
On Wednesday 25 February 2009 01:11:42 pm Faizan ul haq Muhammad wrote: From: li...@jnielsen.net On Wednesday 25 February 2009 12:35:23 pm Faizan ul haq Muhammad wrote: Hi I have two PCI NICs and one builtin NIC on freebsd 7.0 ifconfig shows information somthing like: bge0: flags=8843UP, broadcast, runing, simplex, multicastmetric 0 mtu 1500 options=9bRXCSUM,TXCSUM, VLAN_HWTAGGING. VLAN_HWCSUM ether 00:13:21:f8:7e:56 inet 192.168.0.1 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255 media: Ethernet autoselect (none) status: no carrier This is NIC doesn't appear to be plugged in. no it is not plugged into any other yet and if i plug it and ping it from an external machine, it works That's good. sk0: flags=8843UP, broadcast, runing, simplex, multicastmetric 0 mtu 1500 options=bRXCSUM,TXCSUM, VLAN_MTU ether 00:0a:5e:1a:69:25 inet 192.168.0.2 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255 media: Ethernet autoselect (none) status: no carrier Neither is this one. You are right, but it does not reply to ping even if i plug this to an external system with crossover cable and ping from that PC. Still not surprising. See below. that is the difference in behaviour of both NICs Note: bge0 is builtin NIC sk0 is 3com PCI NIC now after configuration of IPV4 Addresses, when i verify the configuration with ping if i ping bge0(ping 192.168.0.1) i get the response of success but when i ping sk0 (ping 192.168.0.2) Ping gets stuck and gives no response, neither it gives success or host unreachable or denied kinda errors.. Why do you want both interfaces to be configured on the same subnet? that is not required as such, I am just preparing the setup to use this machine a bridge and configure dummynet on this machine. You might try a different configuration for your testing. I suspect if you changed the IP address of sk0 to 192.168.1.2 or similar it would behave as you are expecting. it just hangs over there.. and i can juz see one line of ping not proceeding anyway. and if I terminate it via CTRL C then i get statistics sumthing like 3 packets sent, 0 received and 100% loss... This is probably expected behavior. What does netstat -rn show? My guess is that the route for 192.168.0.0/24 is link#1 aka bge0 and since it's not plugged in to anything that's as far as it gets. btu it does not show any other interface in netstat printout with this -rn switch and can you explain, how this is the expected behavior then..? There can only be one route at any time for any given network. When you bring up bge0 with 192.168.0.1 a route is automatically created for 192.168.0.0 pointing to that interface. When you then bring up sk0 with 192.168.0.2 no additional route can be added for 192.168.0.0 since there is already one present. Therefore ALL traffic destined for the 192.168.0.0 network will go out via bge0. In order to be able to ping 192.168.0.2 _locally_ you'd either need to connect the interfaces with a crossover cable (well, crossover isn't strictly necessary since gigabit ethernet adapters can figure it out on their own..) OR plug both interfaces into a switch/hub. Ping packet goes out bge0 (according to the route), across the wire and comes in on sk0 (destination address). The response would be delivered directly to bge0 (without going over the wire). Similarly, in order to be able to ping 192.168.0.2 from a second machine all _three_ interfaces would need to be connected to the same network segment (via a switch/hub, etc). Ping packet goes out from peer, across the wire and in on sk0 (destination address). Response goes out bge0 (according to route), across the other wire and back to the peer. I hope this helps you make sense of things. JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: reread newsyslog.conf without reboot
On Friday 13 February 2009 05:44:55 am Proskurin Kirill wrote: Fbsd1 wrote: How do I get the system to reread /etc/newsyslog.conf file with out rebooting the system? /etc/rc.d/newsyslog restart Since newsyslog is run from cron (and doesn't stay active as a daemon) no action is strictly necessary. However running the script above will save you the trouble of creating empty logfiles if needed. JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Wifi Card for laptop
On Tuesday 18 November 2008 09:55:35 am Albert Shih wrote: Hi all I would like to buy a PCMCIA card for my new laptop (because FreeBSD do not recognise my internal wifi AND RJ45 ethernet cardsh** windows say it's Broadcom netXtreme 57xx gigabit ). So I just want to known what 802.11G card I can buy without drivers problem. My local dealer have those card : [snip] Trendnet TEW-441PC I ordered this card from newegg not long ago. It's inexpensive and well-supported by the ath(4) driver (unlike the (slightly cheaper) other trendnet card you mentioned). JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Official FreeBSD Forums
On Sunday 16 November 2008 11:04:28 am Brad Davis wrote: The FreeBSD project is finally, after much work, pleased to announce the availability of an official FreeBSD web based discussion forum. Thank you! For problem-solving and discussion my personal preference is still for mailing lists, but given this announcement I decided to check out the forums. I am impressed by the layout and design and the thought that has obviously gone into setting up the categories, etc. I think the Howto/FAQ section alone will be a tremendous resource even for those of us who generally stick to mailing lists. It's only been online for a day and I've already learned something by scanning the rapidly growing number of posts in that section. The forums also provide a valuable means for those of us who don't frequently contribute code to support the community in other ways. Timely, helpful answers to questions of all levels combined with moderation and involvement from a large community of users will make the site a valuable, lasting resource for the projet. I hope to contribute what I can and encourage others to do the same. Regards, John Nielsen ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Console size and scrollback buffer.
On Monday 10 November 2008 08:07:23 am James Williams wrote:
Hello List,
[On FreeBSD 7.1-BETA2, i386.]
1) How can I change the number of rowsxcols of the console? I'd like
to use the maximum rows/cols available for the 1440x900 screen.
In order to use graphical VESA modes you need a custom kernel that
includes these options:
options VESA
options SC_PIXEL_MODE
You will only be able to use a 1440x900 resolution if your video hardware
advertises that as a standard VESA mode. Once you are running a kernel
with the above options you can use vidcontrol to list the available
options:
vidcontrol -i mode
When you see a mode you like you can switch to it using vidcontrol again.
For example:
vidcontrol MODE_XX -f 8x8 cp437-8x8.fnt
Replace XX with the number of the mode you'd like to use. Adjust the
arguments to -f to suit your needs. Other sizes are 8x14 and 8x16. You
should choose a font to match the specified size and the character set
you're using. See the manpage for vidcontrol for greater detail.
With a standard kernel you can use text modes like 80x50 or even 80x60
to get more rows than the standard 80x25. e.g:
vidcontrol -f 8x8 cp437-8x8.fnt VGA_80x60
2) How can these settings be made default (takes effect at boot)?
IOW, what is the equivalent of the vga=0x365 Linux kernel option?
Use the allscreens_flags option in rc.conf. For the text example above
you'd want:
allscreens_flags=-f 8x8 cp437-8x8.fnt VGA_80x60
Similarly for graphics modes, just include everything you'd include on the
command line to vidcontrol.
3) How I can set the scrollback buffer size (if that's the name) of
the console -- the equivalent of Shift+{PgUp,PgDn} on Linux?
I usually do this via the SC_HISTORY_SIZE kernel option. Scroll-lock can
be used to browse the history in any console virtual terminal.
See the sc(4) manpage for details on this option and the SC_PIXEL_MODE
option mentioned above.
JN
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Re: Geom multipath
On Thursday 06 November 2008 07:13:36 am Ganesh kamath wrote: I am trying to get multipath running in freebsd version 7. Are there any configuration files that i can tweak with geom multipath?. The paths are active/passive to the storage array and i dont seem to have control of what path the IO takes, so i was wondering if there are any tweaks thati could do to control the flow of IO to a specific path. Read the manpage. Thoroughly. gmultipath(8). :) There is only one active path to any device, and it is the first in the list of devices. You specify the device list when you create the provider and it is updated if errors occur and when gmultipath labeled devices reappear. I would guess/hope that the order would be preserved across a reboot but I'm not sure. That type of question might be suitable for the freebsd-geom@ mailing list. Also, the IO doesnt resume when i try to do some cable pulls and plug them back. If you're not using an mpt or isp disk controller then you have to initiate a rescan manually for the device to reappear. See camcontrol and/or atacontrol. When the device _does_ reappear it will be inserted at the end of the list, so I/O will continue across the alternate path which is still first in the list. JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: recommendation word processer for xfce
--- On Thu, 11/6/08, FBSD1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FBSD1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: recommendation word processer for xfce To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ORG freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thursday, November 6, 2008, 8:40 PM Looking for word processer that runs on xfce and can output document in ms/word format. On Thursday 06 November 2008, FBSD1 wrote: I looked at OpenOffice but there is no package of it since freebsd release 6 stable. It takes a very very long time to compile this port. Take a look at abiword. JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Backup Winserver
On Tuesday 04 November 2008 06:43:23 am Roey D wrote: 2008/11/4 Graham Bentley [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Is there anyone using Rsync on windows to backup to a Linux or FreeBSD server? Are the Windows Rsync implementations reliable? I used to do that, the windows rsync client (runs on the top of cygwin) worked well for me. You can use this package: http://www.aboutmyip.com/AboutMyXApp/DeltaCopy.jsp which provides cygwin rsync plus GUI. The only issue I had is with files with non-latin characters in their names, in my case, Hebrew. Once I downloaded the Cygwin UTF-8 dll, which can be found here: http://www.okisoft.co.jp/esc/utf8-cygwin/ everything seemed to work. I've done this as well without problem. Look for cwrsync if you don't want to bother installing Cygwin yourself. It comes with the rsync tools and ssh all ready to go. JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: raid tool
On Monday 03 November 2008 09:19:45 am Brent Clark wrote: New to BSD, Using FreeBSD 7. I need to build a test fileserver, but I want it to use Raid 5. Googling says I must use vinum. You have a few options, but strictly speaking the best-supported way to do RAID5 in FreeBSD is to use gvinum (vinum's GEOM-ified successor). It is part of the base system and not in ports. There is also an unofficial geom_raid5 module, but last I was aware it still had some issues (and you'd have to grab the source and built it manually). Looking in the ports I see its not available. The links / sites google suggests were moderately old, so my question is, whats the tool for raid? If you replace raid5 with redundancy and n-1 capacity then you could also look at geom_raid3, which is much simpler to configure than gvinum and also part of the base system. Additionally, FreeBSD 7.x has experimental support for ZFS (again in the base system and not in ports). That includes raidz, which is designed to have all of the good features of raid5 and none of the bad. I use it and it works well but you will need to do some reading and some manual tuning of your system. You'll also want a system with plenty of RAM and preferrably running FreeBSD-amd64 (vs FreeBSD-i386). If you want to look in to RAID1 or RAID1+0 see geom_mirror and geom_stripe, also in the base system. JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: flash-9, 10 on FreeBSD
On Tuesday 28 October 2008 01:30:18 pm matt donovan wrote: On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 10:41 AM, Dánielisz László [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also had some fight with Adobe's Flash player, but unfortunately without success. I remaing curios about any solution. From: Mikhail Teterin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 1:59:23 PM I'm having serious problems with Adobe's Flash 9 and 10 on my FreeBSD-7/amd64 system. If I try to use it directly with linux-firefox, the entire browser crashes quickly. If I try www/nspluginwrapper with a native browser, the wrapper-launched npviewer.bin seg-faults instead. Either way, the plugin does not work... It appears, there was some activity recently in trying to fix these problems (is it all in linprocfs/?) What is the current status? Thanks, FreeBSD 7.1 should work with flash9 myself I had no luck so far but nox- does say it should work I just updated to RELENG_7 (aka 7.1-PRERELEASE these days) on Monday and am able to use Flash 9 in native Firefox 3 with sound, no sound lag and no crashes so far. I have: FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE #0: Mon Oct 27 18:31:37 EDT 2008 compat.linux.osrelease=2.6.16 linux_base-f8-8_8 firefox-3.0.3,1 linux-flashplugin-9.0r124_2 nspluginwrapper-1.0.0 JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: flash-9, 10 on FreeBSD
On Wednesday 29 October 2008 01:22:40 pm Mikhail Teterin wrote: Sent by John Nielsen: I just updated to RELENG_7 (aka 7.1-PRERELEASE these days) on Monday and am able to use Flash 9 in native Firefox 3 with sound, no sound lag and no crashes so far. I have: FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE #0: Mon Oct 27 18:31:37 EDT 2008 compat.linux.osrelease=2.6.16 linux_base-f8-8_8 firefox-3.0.3,1 linux-flashplugin-9.0r124_2 nspluginwrapper-1.0.0 Congratulations. i386 or amd64, though? i386. JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gconcat question
On Sunday 19 October 2008, Roger Olofsson wrote: -Ursprungligt Meddelande- From: John Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19/10/2008 3:39:00 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: gconcat question On Saturday 18 October 2008, Roger Olofsson wrote: What are the steps to bring back gconcatenated disks if doing an upgrade from FreeBSD6 to FreeBSD7 like this? As-is situation: FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE ad0 has FreeBSD ad1, ad2 and ad3 are gconcatenated using 'gconcat label -v data /dev/ad1 /dev/ad2 /dev/ad3'. The concat device should just appear automatically after the upgrade as long as you (continue to) load the geom_concat kernel module. Be aware that if the on-disk metadata format has changed then it will automatically be upgraded. This is usually a good thing but if you need to roll back to 6.x for some reason it's something to take into consideration. Planned upgrade: Reboot from cdrom, install FreeBSD7 from cd to ad0 Just curious, is there a reason you're going this route instead of upgrading from source? Hello John and thank you for your reply! Follow-up question - /dev contains a /dev/concat/label entry - is this entry created when loader.conf invokes the kernel module? Yes. Many of the GEOM modules (label, mirror, concat, stripe, etc) create nodes in the relevant subdirectories in /dev as soon as they taste the drives (or other providers) and discover metadata belonging to them. This is generally when they are loaded (if modules) or at boot time (if compiled into the kernel or preloaded by loader.conf). Any time you insert a device (such as a USB stick) the loaded modules also have an opportunity to taste it and create nodes as appropriate. The machine won't be rollbacked so that's not an issue. The reason for following this route is that it's faster than doing it from source (it's an old machine). The machine has been a playground and has alot of ports installed that aren't being used anymore. The concatenated drives contain data only hence the need to preserve those. Makes sense. :) JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gconcat question
On Saturday 18 October 2008, Roger Olofsson wrote: What are the steps to bring back gconcatenated disks if doing an upgrade from FreeBSD6 to FreeBSD7 like this? As-is situation: FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE ad0 has FreeBSD ad1, ad2 and ad3 are gconcatenated using 'gconcat label -v data /dev/ad1 /dev/ad2 /dev/ad3'. The concat device should just appear automatically after the upgrade as long as you (continue to) load the geom_concat kernel module. Be aware that if the on-disk metadata format has changed then it will automatically be upgraded. This is usually a good thing but if you need to roll back to 6.x for some reason it's something to take into consideration. Planned upgrade: Reboot from cdrom, install FreeBSD7 from cd to ad0 Just curious, is there a reason you're going this route instead of upgrading from source? JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using mirroring to replace drive?
On Saturday 18 October 2008, Chris Pratt wrote: Hi, For years I've been upgrading by building a temp server, transferring a production function to it and temporarily decommissioning the one server while I upgrade and rebuild it. I was thinking of trying a different approach since having tried out gvinum in the last couple of years. The current scenario is that I have a machine where the adaptec controller is suggesting I replace a failing SCSI drive which happens to be the system disk. I purchased a couple of new drives and thought I might just plug it in and mirror the failing drive on the new drive. Then pull the failing drive and plug in the other new drive as the second mirrored drive and be done with it. One obvious outcome would be a having a system drive mirror for future such issues. I have never built a mirror on the fly but it seems many have from what I've read and the cookbooks out there make it sound very easy. I was going to use GEOM Mirror on 6.2 (then upgrade to 7.0 after establishing the new good drives). 1. Is this an appropriate way to deal with this? It could be. However if the new disks are not the same size as the failing disk (or perhaps even if they are) I would recommend using dump/restore to do the transfer rather than including the failing drive in the mirror. Assuming you can only have 2 disks attached at any given time and want to mirror at the disk level (as opposed to partition or slice), the sequence would be something like this: Connect new disk. Gmirror label ... (create a single-member (broken) mirror on the new disk) Partition (fdisk) and label (bsdlabel) the new mirror device, installing boot blocks as appropriate (fdisk -B and bsdlabel -wB, for example) Newfs and mount (to a temporary location) each filesystem on the mirror. Dump the contents of each filesystem from the original disk to the mirror device. Use the -L flag to dump to dump from a snapshot for live filesystems. Edit temproot/etc/fstab and change the relevant mountpoint entries to refer to the ones on the mirror. Ensure that temproot/boot/loader.conf contains 'geom_mirror_load=YES'. Shut down, remove the old disk and connect the second new disk. Boot (from the first new disk). If this doesn't succeed switch back to the old disk and figure out why. Gmirror insert ... (add the second disk to the mirror) Wait for rebuild to complete Finished! 2. Are there any high risk aspects of doing this while running a server in production? I'm thinking of things like how probable it is of trashing the original disk, making the system unbootable in the process etc? Like other GEOM classes gmirror stores its metadata in the last sector of the provider (the disk, in this case). If you decide to include the old disk in a mirror there is a chance that this sector will have been in use by the filesystem, though in the whole-disk scenario this is somewhat rare. Using the approach I outlined above avoids the possibility altogether. Other risks are minimal. The system will be I/O loaded during the dump/restore and mirror resync phases, though decent hardware can make this less obvious. If you manage to tickle a UFS snapshot bug during the dump the system could panic, though in my experience (on lightly-loaded systems without other snapshots and not using quotas) this has not happened. Having a fallback plan (revert to the unmodified original disk) is another selling point of the method I outlined above. 3. Are there better approaches that are safer (aside from my normal hardware swap MO). See my response to 1). 4. Does using GEOM Mirror RAID-1 make the upgrade from 6.2 to 7.0 a dangerous proposition. I do upgrades via cvsup and buildworld. Not really. The gmirror module in 7.x will read and understand (and possibly update) the on-disk metadata as soon as it sees it. Just be sure to load it. Worst case you end up booting from a single drive and have to manually specify your root partition. The environment is FreeBSD 6.2 Supermicro with Adaptec SCSI All ~73 GB Maxtor and Seagate drives Current da0 system is Maxtor, there will be minor size differences, the replacement Cheetah is a hair larger. Apache, PHP5 and Mysql No existing RAID Configuration JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: acpi_tz0: _TMP value is absurd ignored (-269.7C) Message in every 3 seconds .
On Monday 06 October 2008 02:07:17 am dhaneshk k wrote: I installed freebsd-7.0 in a p4 machine , after installation when I reboot the machine , I am getting the message acpi_tz0: _TMP value is absurd ignored (-269.7C) in every 3 seconds I have a machine that does this as well. I haven't done any research into the cause or an actual fix, but a workaround is to add hw.acpi.thermal.polling_rate=0 to /etc/sysctl.conf. JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: silicon Graphics hardware
On Sunday 21 September 2008 03:23:58 pm Erik Trulsson wrote: On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 12:48:37PM -0400, Tim Kellers wrote: I googled a bit this morning and, except for some old (Freebsd 4.x) posts, I didn'r see anything terribly relevant, but does FreeBSD run on any Silicon Graphics hardware? I've heard that (maybe) an Ubuntu distro _might_ run if the hardware was booted/configged with the Irix Foundations disks. The Information Systems department where I work is aswim in some SGI hardware that they'd like to relocate and reclaim the space, so I'm looking for alternatives to repurpose the hardware. Since I know FreeBSD better than any flavor of Linux, I'm looking for a BSD solution, first. I don't, yet, have the Foundations Irix disks, so I'm looking for any alternative I can find. FreeBSD does not (AFAIK) run on any Silicon Graphics machines. NetBSD is however capable of running on several Silicon Graphics machines, so you might take a look at that and see if it supports the particular hardware you have (it probably does, but no guarantees.) Use this as a starting point: http://www.netbsd.org/ports/sgimips/ JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Multiple installation of one ports
On Tuesday 16 September 2008 01:26:35 pm FreeBSD wrote:
I've been asked by a customer to install Drupal on one server to manage
a new site. No problem yet. But, he also asked if it would be possible
to install it for other sites.
I know that there is a warning if you want to install a port that is
already installed, but is there a way to bypass this? I know I could
install it from the tarball from the website, but I want to be able to
use portupgrade and portaudit to deal with it.
I've done this in the past with Gallery and it looks like Drupal should be
workable too. The thing to do is to make either a clone port or a slave
port of the original and tweak a few things. In particular you'll want to
add some sort of suffix to the port name and change the installation
directory.
For example, you could make a directory called ports/www/drupal6-customer
and drop this in its Makefile:
PKGNAMESUFFIX=-${CUSTNAME}
DRUPAL_BASE=drupal6-${CUSTNAME}
.include ../drupal6/Makefile
You could then do things like
# cd /usr/ports/www/drupal6-customer
# make CUSTNAME=foo install clean
# make CUSTNAME=bar install clean
which would (with any luck) create independent installations of drupal
under /usr/local/www/drupal6-foo and /usr/local/www/drupal6-bar. Or if
you didn't want to worry about defining CUSTNAME all the time (or the
desired name/location won't follow a predictable pattern) you could make
a different slave port for each installation and hard-code the two
values. I haven't tested any of this other than some quick verification
of variables using make -V.
HTH. If you have specific questions about port mechanics the ports@ list
might be the best place to ask. See also the Porter's Handbook:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/porters-handbook/
JN
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Re: State of 3d video, which vendor has best support?
On Monday 08 September 2008, KlaymenDK wrote: I'm about to build a new pc, the first in quite a few years. My problem is that I can't find out if I should choose a 3D chipset from Intel, Ati, or nVidia. What's the state of support, track record, and such for these nowadays? This is becoming a FAQ. You should be able to find some good information in a couple of relatively recent threads. The nutshell summary (in my opinion, from memory) is this: nVidia support is good w/ the binary driver on i386. Not available on amd64 ati support is great for hardware supported by radeon(4x). The manpage has a pretty good list. Better support for fancier cards (hd, etc) is coming but not quite all the way there intel support is very good. Not quite as many souped-up options but modern onboard intel graphics are more than adequate for almost anything, including many games. Personally I would look for Intel gfx in a laptop and a well-supported ATI card for a desktop. I'm planning to use FreeBSD (duh) mainly as a quad-core, dual-headed, desktop workstation, but would very much like to be able to play the occasional BZFlag (call me oldschool). Which vendor I choose will affect my options for motherboard and (onboard/separate) video, which will affect my choice of CPU, and so on. So this seems to be a fundamental question, but I can't find an authoritative guide to 3D in FreeBSD. JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Google Chrome
On Tuesday 02 September 2008, Vlad GURDIGA wrote: On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 12:14 AM, Beech Rintoul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 02 September 2008, Vlad GURDIGA said: Hello, In Google Chrome System requirements (http://www.google.com/support/chrome/bin/answer.py?answer=95411to pic=14660) they say that a Linux version is going to appear. And in the Download and install help article (http://www.google.com/support/chrome/bin/answer.py?answer=95346qu ery=open-sourcetopic=type=) they say that it is open-source. Does this mean that is hope we'll have a FreeBSD version? If someone steps up and rolls and submits the port. You're welcome to volunteer :-) I'd be glad to, but I'm afraid I do not have the skills for that... :-( It won't be trivial to port. Last night I got as far as installing the recommended versions of the dependencies (including nspr and nss a version ahead of what's currently in ports). The chromium build script assumes the existence of /proc and /bin/bash. I stopped trying for now when I discovered that it doesn't even run configure for some of the third-party tools. It uses canned header files generated for Linux or Mac.. JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Google Chrome
On Friday 05 September 2008, Robert Huff wrote: John Nielsen writes: It won't be trivial to port. Last night I got as far as installing the recommended versions of the dependencies (including nspr and nss a version ahead of what's currently in ports). The chromium build script assumes the existence of /proc and /bin/bash. I stopped trying for now when I discovered that it doesn't even run configure for some of the third-party tools. It uses canned header files generated for Linux or Mac.. Have you offered your changes back to Google? Haven't made any changes yet, just observations. I did send my updated nss port to the maintainer.. If I make any headway on Chromium itself I don't intend to keep it private, though I don't think it'll be a priority any time soon. JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: vmware tools for ESX Server 3.5
On Thursday 04 September 2008, B. Cook wrote: On Sep 3, 2008, at 12:11 PM, John Nielsen wrote: On Wednesday 03 September 2008, B. Cook wrote: I am setting up FreeBSD 7.0 and he is asking about the vmware-tools. Ports has some things, but I am not sure what I need, and neither is he. Can anyone tell me what it needs? I usually create VM's with the Intel gigabit vNIC's which can use FreeBSD's em driver. Since Xorg includes the vmmouse and vmware video drivers already, the main things you should be looking for are the memory balloon driver and the guestd service. In the past I have gotten these to work by using the supplied tools (on the CD image that is inserted when you select Install VMware tools from the host). However it is much easier nowadays to use the free version in ports/emulators/open-vm-tools (or open-vm-tools-nox11). JN Well this is the other way.. FreeBSD is the guest not the host. What I said applies to FreeBSD running as a guest VM. (You don't install VMware tools on a host.) This is what the owner of the cluster is telling me: The tools aren't absolutely necessary but if we can we always install them in guest machines. They allow the VMWare server to gracefully shutdown the guest That's guestd. The VMware-supplied version actually does a shutdown -h for power-down. On Linux that works but on FreeBSD it simply halts the OS so you have to power down the VM yourself. The open-vm-tools power down correctly. improve memory management That's the balloon memctl driver. It actually improves memory management for the host by asking the guest (where it is running) to feed it available memory, which the host can then allocate to other VM's if needed. replace the virtual NIC with a higher performance one That applies to the vmxnet/lance type of virtual NIC. I've heard of people getting the VMware-supplied driver running under FreeBSD, but I've never messed with it. The le(4) driver does fine. Or you can do as I suggested and switch your virtual NIC to an intel one (which is the default for 64-bit VM's, may require editing the .vmx file for 32-bit VM's) which will use the em(4) driver. replace the video driver (if you are running a GUI which we aren't in this case.) The vmware video driver is already included in current versions of Xorg, as is the vmmouse input driver which will synch the mouse pointer with the viewer's external session and release the cursor when it reaches the edge. etc I think he covered just about everything. :) But this machine is running fine, including the nightly snapshots. I would still advise you to install some form of VMware tools. Again my preferences is for open-vm-tools. Below is the dmesg from the guest: snip le0: AMD PCnet-PCI port 0x1400-0x147f irq 18 at device 17.0 on pci0 le0: 16 receive buffers, 4 transmit buffers le0: Ethernet address: 00:50:56:83:49:9d You may want to look at switching to the Intel virtual nic in the VM's configuration. (You would then also need to change any ifconfig_le0 entries in the guest's /etc/rc.conf to ifconfig_em0). For Workstation (and IIRC it's the same for Server and ESX) you do this by changing (or adding) a line like this: ethernet0.virtualDev = e1000 in the config (.vmx) file for the VM. JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: vmware tools for ESX Server 3.5
On Wednesday 03 September 2008, B. Cook wrote: I am setting up FreeBSD 7.0 and he is asking about the vmware-tools. Ports has some things, but I am not sure what I need, and neither is he. Can anyone tell me what it needs? I usually create VM's with the Intel gigabit vNIC's which can use FreeBSD's em driver. Since Xorg includes the vmmouse and vmware video drivers already, the main things you should be looking for are the memory balloon driver and the guestd service. In the past I have gotten these to work by using the supplied tools (on the CD image that is inserted when you select Install VMware tools from the host). However it is much easier nowadays to use the free version in ports/emulators/open-vm-tools (or open-vm-tools-nox11). JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cloning a gmirrored hard drive
On Monday 25 August 2008 11:50:41 am Julien Cigar wrote: Stupid question: can't you use growfs on the existing gmirror (after replace /dev/oneofdisk, resync, replace /dev/otherdisk, resync) ? Is it mandatory to create a *new* gmirror ? There is no way to resize a gmirror provider without creating a new one. You could possibly insert the new large drive into the mirror, deactivate it, make a new gmirror on it (clobbering the old one), THEN use growfs.. but that's a lot mor ecomplicated and error-prone than doing it the right way using dump/restore. If downtime is a concern then use Ivan's method below but without going into single-user--just be sure to give -L to dump. On Mon, 2008-08-25 at 14:37 +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: Hi! My situation: I have a server with FBSD 7 installed with two 40 GB disks in RAID 1 (gmirror) config. Now I have noticed the lack of space on the drive so I am thinking to change these disks for two 160 GB. What is the best way to clone the main hard disk in raid 1 config? Is gmirror remove yourmirrorname /dev/oneofdisk shutdown and replace this one with 160GB boot single user make gmirror with this new 160GB drive (only one drive now so not real mirror) newfs and copy all data make it bootable, shutdown, remove second 40GB drive, add second 160GB drive, boot and then gmirror insert yournewmirror seconddrive that's all. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /etc/groups gone
I would start by comparing the contents of /usr/ports/GIDs with the ports you have installed (as listed in /var/db/pkg). You can get a stock group file from src/etc/group. Reinstalling ports will recreate the groups they use (though you could do most of it manually), and you may be on your own for any custom groups you have. On Thursday 21 August 2008 12:05:49 pm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Yesterday night at 1 a.m. I have managed to remove /etc/groups (rm instead of vi, was already sleepying). Luckily only a few groups (2-3) was created earlier. No backup, of course. I believe the file system is still correct, it uses group IDs instead of names (?). Though ls does not show the correct group names (only IDs) and creating new groups will reuse the old group IDs. Is there any better way of rebuilding /etc/groups than guessing and manually adding one-by-one. Can I somehow list all group IDs used by the file system? Many thanks. Balazs _ News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Migrating to gmirrored RAID1
On Monday 18 August 2008 05:39:10 am Henry Karpatskij wrote: Hi, I have a failing IDE disk which is running my 7.0-p1 server. I've been investigating the possible solutions and I've decided to go with two new IDE disks and gmirror. However, I'm not too familiar with disk internals, I know how to install the system and somehow understand the concept of slices and partitions, but that's about it. I found some examples on how to install the gmirror on a running system, but they all have in common that they just add new spare disk to the system and turn on the mirroring to it, but I need to replace the current disk which is not the same size as the new ones. Any suggestions how one would do such an operation? Should I just re- install the server to a new disk, turn on the mirroring and then restore the configuration and files from the failing disk? Or is it easier to add the disks to the running system, turn on mirroring and then somehow dump the current disk to the mirror and then re-configure it to boot from the gmirror and remove the failing disk? I think the latter approach is easier and makes the most sense for your situation. Install the disks, set up the mirror(s) that you want, transfer data and then do a boot test. Something along these lines should work. Substitue device and volume names to match your hardware and tastes. #set up a single mirror to use the whole disk (versus mirroring individual slices/partitions) gmirror label myraid1 /dev/ad4 /dev/ad6 #install a partition table and the boot0 code fdisk -BI /dev/mirror/myraid1 #install a default label and the main boot code bsdlabel -wB /dev/mirror/myraid1s1 #create BSD partitions by hand. remember to set EDITOR if you don't like vi bsdlabel -e /dev/mirror/myraid1s1 #This is the tricky part. Create the partitions you want on the mirror. Use the output of bsdlabel /dev/ad0s1 as a guide. Remember that a should be root, b is traditionally swap, c is the raw partition and should not be changed, and d - h are other partitions. I find a spreadsheet to be handy for figuring out the correct values, though a calculator is adequate (I've used dc more than once..). The units you are dealing with are 512-byte sectors. Best practice (which sysinstall doesn't follow but bsdlabel -w does) is to leave 16 sectors at the start of the slice for the boot code (but both swap and UFS will avoid clobbering it even if you don't do this). If you follow the best practice and do the partitions in order, then the offset for a is 16, and the offset for any other partition is the offset of the previous one plus the size of the previous one. Assuming your last filesystem wants to use the remainder of the slice, figure its offset as above then subtract it from the total (the size of c) for the size. For filesystem partitions the fstype should be 4.2BSD, and use 2048 16384 0 for the last three columns unless you have reason to do otherwise. (The bps is recalculated when you create a filesystem so it won't be 0 later. That's expected.) The fstype for swap space is swap and the last three columns are omitted. Save and exit the editor when finished.) #Create filesystems newfs /dev/mirror/myraid1s1a #(repeat for other filesystems, changing the partition letter as appropriate) #Make temp mountpoints mkdir /newroot #(again repeat as needed) #Mount new filesystems mount /dev/mirror/myraid1s1a /newroot #(repeat as needed) #Dump/restore filesystems cd /newroot dump -0 -L -C32 -f - / | restore -r -f - rm restoresymtable #(repeat as needed, changing the filesystem argument to dump and the cwd for your new filesystems. one or two messages from restore about getting a different inode than expected is normal.) #edit /newroot/etc/fstab. Change the device for / to /dev/mirror/myraid1s1a. Make a similar change for other filesystems. #edit /newroot/boot/loader.conf. Make sure it includes this line: geom_mirror_load=YES #shut down, remove the original disk, and try booting Good luck! JN Current df output: Filesystem 1K-blocksUsedAvail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad0s1a507630 159262 30775834%/ devfs 1 10 100%/dev /dev/ad0s1e507630 56 466964 0%/tmp /dev/ad0s1f 33573476 6044408 2484319020%/usr /dev/ad0s1d 1762414 381632 123979024%/var devfs 1 10 100%/var/named/dev Thanks in advance, ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unable to update transcode port
On Wednesday 13 August 2008 07:54:47 pm Clint Olsen wrote: Hi: I've not been able to upgrade my transcode port for some time. It eventually fails with: ERROR: requirement failed: cannot link against libavcodec libavcodec can be found in the following packages: FFmpeg http://www.ffmpeg.org/ Do you have ffmpeg installed? Is it up-to-date? Are you using any WITH or WITHOUT knobs for the make? I can't tell from the output you provided if this is relevant, but I recently had to install the archivers/lzo2 port before I could get ffmpeg upgraded (on one machine) or transcode installed (on another). Give that a shot. Please see the INSTALL file in the top directory of the transcode sources for more information about building transcode with this configure script. === Script configure failed unexpectedly. Please report the problem to [EMAIL PROTECTED] [maintainer] and attach the /usr/ports/multimedia/transcode/work/transcode-1.0.6/config.log including the output of the failure of your make command. Also, it might be a good idea to provide an overview of all packages installed on your system (e.g. an `ls /var/db/pkg`). *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/multimedia/transcode. ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa /tmp/portupgrade.14149.0 env UPGRADE_TOOL=portupgrade UPGRADE_PORT=transcode-1.0.5_3 UPGRADE_PORT_VER=1.0.5_3 make ** Fix the problem and try again. ** Listing the failed packages (-:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed) ! multimedia/transcode (transcode-1.0.5_3) (unknown build error) JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ATi Intel graphics
On Wednesday 13 August 2008, Jim wrote: At some point fairly soon, I'll be rebuilding my computer, and I want three things. 64 Bit for more memory, maybe a bit of performance boost as well - it's mostly a multimedia machine decent/good 3D acceleration (better than a GeForce 7300GS - a few games in WINE in 1920x1080 - yes, believe it or not, the 7300GS doesn't do /bad/ on many of the games, but it certainly could be better). FreeBSD. You may want to rethink this. The emulators/wine port is i386-only: %grep -i arch /usr/ports/emulators/wine/Makefile ONLY_FOR_ARCHS= i386 I've used Solaris and Linux, and honestly, I'd rather go back to Windows and use Cygwin for my *nix needs. I'd rather use FreeBSD for the system than Windows. 64 Bit immediately knocks out the thoughts on using an nVidia card. Has anyone had much experience with a 3600 series ATi card, it's the best in the discreet-video category for my target price/performance, but not listed in the man pages for the Radeon (non-HD) - only the 3400s and the 3800s). Aside from that, going for the really cheap end, has anyone had much experience with the Intel 4500HD chipsets yet? I'm lousy with other people's code (barely good with my own), but I could test if needed, if/when I get the board. In my experience the Intel and Radeon drivers for Xorg work very well on FreeBSD, but I don't have experience with any of the specific hardware you mention. Could anyone give me some of their experiences here? How are your experiences with these pieces of hardware and their drivers in terms of stability/reliability (in FreeBSD of course)? Are either of these setups in a place where a tester would be needed/welcome? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ATi Intel graphics
On Wednesday 13 August 2008, Jim wrote: On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 2:06 PM, John Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 13 August 2008, Jim wrote: At some point fairly soon, I'll be rebuilding my computer, and I want three things. 64 Bit for more memory, maybe a bit of performance boost as well - it's mostly a multimedia machine decent/good 3D acceleration (better than a GeForce 7300GS - a few games in WINE in 1920x1080 - yes, believe it or not, the 7300GS doesn't do /bad/ on many of the games, but it certainly could be better). FreeBSD. You may want to rethink this. The emulators/wine port is i386-only: %grep -i arch /usr/ports/emulators/wine/Makefile ONLY_FOR_ARCHS= i386 I was under the impression you could build it with -m32 set in CFLAGS and CXXFLAGS and it worked fine. You may already know more than I do then; I haven't tried that and my main desktop is currently running i386. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to set quota ( as Mbyte ) for a directory?
On Friday 08 August 2008, Chuck Swiger wrote: On Aug 8, 2008, at 11:49 AM, Yavuz Maslak wrote: On freebsd7, How to set quota for a directory? For instance I want to set 100Mbyte quota for a directory. How can I do that ? Quotas are handled per filesystem, not per directory. See man quotaon man quotacheck, or the FreeBSD Handbook. If you're in a position to use/migrate to ZFS, quotas are something you get for free. You still have to apply them on a per-filesystem basis but a ZFS filesystem is just part of a pool so it's a lot more dynamic. See the quota and refquota property descriptions in the zfs(1M) manpage. However, ZFS is only available in FreeBSD 7.0 or newer and is still considered experimental. There is a patch for -HEAD (8-CURRENT) that brings in the latest version and addresses many issues, but it hasn't been backported to 7.x (and may not be). JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Adding device to FreeBSD 6.3-STABLE
On Friday 01 August 2008, Jack Raats wrote: I would like to add the zyd device to FreeBSD. The zyd driver allready is in FreeBSD 7.0. Which steps do I have to take to add the zyd device to FreeBSD? Sorry, what are you asking? What version of FreeBSD are you using and what do you need help doing? JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mount_msdosfs usb flash stick
On Saturday 02 August 2008, joeb wrote: On 6.2 release of FBSD trying to mount a usb flash memory stick. The stick has a msdos file system on it and has been loaded with files using windows xp. When I plug the stick into my FBSD box I get console msg about da0 device as usb flash memory stick. All looks good at this point. When is issue this command, mount_msdosfs /dev/da0 /mnt I get this error msg ' invalid argument' . Also tried this format of the command with same results.mount -t msdos /dev/da0 /mnt (note typing error on msdos in first post. Sorry) Most of the time usb drives are partitioned like regular hard drives. Do an ls /dev/da0* to see what you have, but you'll probably want: mount -t msdos /dev/da0s1 /mnt JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mounting hfs+ ipod on freebsd i386
On Thursday 31 July 2008, David Gurvich wrote: Does the kernel need to be rebuilt in order to mount an ipod formatted with apple's hfs+ filesystem? If yes, what options are needed in the kernel and if not, what needs to be done? Other than reformatting to fat32. Take a look at emulators/hfs and/or emulators/hfsutils. I haven't used either but it looks like they should do the trick. My guess is they run in userland and don't require kernel modifications. JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: upgrade from 6.3 to 7.0
On Friday 25 July 2008, tethys ocean wrote: I ve got 6.3 stable database server. Can i directly upgrade my server from 6.3 to 7.0 Sure. Be prepared to rebuild and/or reinstall all your ports/packages and follow the other guidelines in src/UPDATING and other documentation. *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_6 That's 6-STABLE.. *default release=cvs tag=. ..and that's 8-CURRENT. You probably want tag=RELENG_7 (7.0-STABLE) or RELENG_7_0 (7.0-RELEASE + security fixes). and also may i add ZFS to my server if such kind of update succsessfull. is it possible or not and advantage and disadvantage. Since ZFS in FreeBSD is still experimental you should do a lot of testing and otherwise keep that in mind. For many loads and with the right tuning (see the wiki) it works fine. Advantages and disadvantages are many but a useful response depends on your goals. Why do you think ZFS would be a good thing for this server? JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Java
On Tuesday 22 July 2008 12:20:48 pm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I read in _Absolute FreeBSD_ that there is now an easy-to-install Java package for 64-bit AMD FreeBSD 7.0, but I have so far not found this package. Does it exist? Yes. These packages are created. licensed and maintained by the FreeBSD Foundation. See this link: http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/downloads/java.shtml JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using ccd with zfs
On Tuesday 22 July 2008 12:18:31 am Steven Schlansker wrote: Hello -questions, I have a FreeBSD ZFS storage system working wonderfully with 7.0. It's set up as three 3-disk RAIDZs -triplets of 500, 400, and 300GB drives. I recently purchased three 750GB drives and would like to convert to using a RAIDZ2. As ZFS has no restriping capabilities yet, I will have to nuke the zpool from orbit and make a new one. I would like to verify my methodology against your experience to see if what I wish to do is reasonable: I plan to first take 2 of the 750GB drives and make an unreplicated 1.5TB zpool as a temporary storage. Since ZFS doesn't seem to have the ability to create zpools in degraded mode (with missing drives) I plan to use iSCSI to create two additional drives (backed by /dev/ zero) to fake having two extra drives, relying on ZFS's RAIDZ2 protection to keep everything running despite the fact that two of the drives are horribly broken ;) To make these 500, 400, and 300GB drives useful, I would like to stitch them together using ccd. I would use it as 500+300 = 800GB and 400+400=800GB That way, in the end I would have 750 x 3 500 + 300 x3 400 + 400 x 1 400 + 200 + 200 x 1 as the members in my RAIDZ2 group. I understand that this is slightly less reliable than having real drives for all the members, but I am not interested in purchasing 5 more 750GB drives. I'll replace the drives as they fail. I am wondering if there are any logistical problems. The three parts I am worried about are: 1) Are there any problems with using an iSCSI /dev/zero drive to fake drives for creation of a new zpool, with the intent to replace them later with proper drives? I don't know about the iSCSI approach but I have successfully created a degraded zpool using md and a sparse file in place of the missing disk. Worked like a charm and I was able to transfer everything to the zpool before nuking the real device (which I had been using for temporary storage) and replacing the md file with it. You can create a sparse file using dd: dd if=/dev/zero of=sparsefile bs=512 seek=(size of the fake device in 512-byte blocks) count=0 Turn it into a device node using mdconfig: mdconfig -a -t vnode -f sparsefile Then create your zpool using the /dev/md0 device (unless the mdconfig operation returns a different node number). The size of the sparse file should not be bigger than the size of the real device you plan to replace it with. If using GEOM (which I think you should, see below), be sure to remember to subtract 512 bytes for each level of each provider (GEOM modules store their metadata in the last sector of each provider so that space is unavailable for use). To be on the safe side you can whack a few KB off. You can't remove the fake device from a running zpool but the first time you reboot it will be absent and the zpool will come up degraded. 2) Are there any problems with using CCD under zpool? Should I stripe or concatenate? Will the startup scripts (either by design or less likely intelligently) decide to start CCD before zfs? The zpool should start without me interfering, correct? I would suggest using gconcat rather than CCD. Since it's a GEOM module (and you will have remembered to load it via /boot/loader.conf) it will initialize its devices before ZFS starts. It's also much easier to set up than CCD. If you are concatenating two devices of the same size you could consider using gstripe instead, but think about the topology of your drives and controllers and the likely usage patterns your final setup will create to decide if that's a good idea. 3) I hear a lot about how you should use whole disks so ZFS can enable write caching for improved performance. Do I need to do anything special to let the system know that it's OK to enable the write cache? And persist across reboots? Not that I know of. As I understand it ZFS _assumes_ it's working with whole disks so since it uses its own i/o scheduler performance can be degraded for anything sharing a physical device with a ZFS slice. Any other potential pitfalls? Also, I'd like to confirm that there's no way to do this pure ZFS-like - I read the documentation but it doesn't seem to have support for nesting vdevs (which would let me do this without ccd) You're right, you can't do this with ZFS alone. Good thing FreeBSD is so versatile. :) JN Thanks for any information that you might be able to provide, Steven Schlansker ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD + ZFS on a production server?
I'm behind on my mailing list reading and don't really want to prolong/resurrect this thread unduly, but I do want to respond to this point: On Thursday 12 June 2008 07:37:06 am Wojciech Puchar wrote: you must have disks dedicated for raidz, disks dedicated for mirrored storage and disks dedicated for unprotected storage. it's inflexible and not much usable. actually - much less usable than legacy gmirror/gstripe/gconcat+bsdlabel. ZFS on FreeBSD is GEOM-ified. While I believe what Wojciech said about needing a full disk is correct under Solaris, it's not the case in FreeBSD. Any GEOM provider can be added to a zpool--disk, slice, partition, gmirror, gstripe, md device, etc. I just added some storage to a personal server and re-did the layout using ZFS. My zpool (raidz) is made up of two partitions and one gstripe, spanning a total of four disks. I haven't had any issues with it at all (7-STABLE i386, 1.5GB RAM, no tuning other than kmem size and MAXPAGES). All of the disks also have other small partitions--two for a gmirrored root and three for swap. I think FreeBSD is a great storage/fileserver platform exactly _because_ there are so many options. UFS is great, gmirror and gstripe and friends are fantastic, and ZFS is yet another powerful tool in the arsenal. In my case ZFS was the best meeting point for space vs redundancy vs performance. Not having real RAID hardware my other candidates were graid3, graid5 and gvinum. ZFS is much easier to configure than gvinum, much more proven and stable than graid5 (which isn't even in the tree yet), and ought to perform better than graid3. I didn't do any testing to verify the last assertion since this is just a personal box, but I don't have any complaints about performance. JN one of my systems have 8 disks. 80% of data doesn't need any protection, it's just a need for a lot of space, other 20 needs to be mirrored. this 80% of data is used in high bandwidth/low seeks style (only big files). i simply partitioned every disk on 2 partitions, every first is used to make gmirror+gstripe device, every second is used to make gconcat device, and i have what i need WITH BALANCED LOAD. with ZFS i would have to make first 2 drives as mirror, another 6 for unprotected storage, having LOTS of seeks on first 2 drives and very little seeks on other 6 drives. the system would be unable to support the load. to say more: zfs set copies could be usable to selectively mirror given data while not mirroring other (using unprotected storage for ZFS). but it's broken. it writes N copies under write, but don't remake copies in case of failure! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: USB wireless AP?
On Wednesday 23 April 2008 11:57:28 am Ivan Voras wrote: I've found a perfect match for my needs: D-Link DWL-G122, with the rum driver. Not a single problem so far, everything works as documented. Truly a plug and play experience. I'm just curious about one more thing: I wish to set up a b/g network, so both b and g devices can connect. Apparently this is set up via the mode argument to ifconfig, which accepts 11g and 11b but not the obvious 11bg. Any pointers on this? You can either omit the mode argument altogether and get both supported by default, or just specify 11g, which will also support both. I typically omit the mode unless I want to limit things to only 11b. JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Booting 7.0 off of USB Flash Card....
On Wednesday 16 April 2008 08:55:41 am [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm a newbie to FreeBSD and I've installed 7.0 on a USB flash card, but I can't seem to boot off of it. I don't get an error message, the PC just goes through POST, then re-cycles and continues this loop. I was able to get OpenBSD to boot off of this flash card, so I know my hardware setup is ok. A couple other things I tried, from the loader prompt: set currdev=disk1s1a: load /boot/kernel/kernel but I just get BTX halted. Just wondering if anyone else has seen this issue? This is a known issue, especially with USB devices and/or newer hardware. Search the archives for btx issues if you want the gory details. A fix was committed several weeks ago, but still after the release of 7.0. Try using a 7.0-STABLE snapshot from ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/200804. Those images should all have the new btx/boot code. You will need to reinstall the boot blocks on your usb drive, so starting from scratch with the new CD image could be the simplest way to go. HTH, JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to switch scheduler on 7.0?
On Tuesday 15 April 2008 04:56:37 pm Robert Huff wrote: Josh Carroll writes: I would like to switch scheduler on my FreeBSD 7.0 box but I don't know how todo that. You will want to use options SCHED_ULE instead of SCHED_4BSD in your kernel config. Am I correct in remembering SCHED_ULE /is/ the default for 7.0+? If this is true, and you (the OP) do not need the machine for production, there are people who would be interested in hearing about your problems - especially if you are prepared to define (and document) terrible performace and help diagnosing the issue. No. It was at one point planned to be but re@ and others decided it hadn't had enough time to settle in the tree for the 7.0 release. AFAIK it will be the default for 7.1. JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: interactive stop on boot
On Friday 14 March 2008 11:24:57 am Jason Barnes wrote: Hi -- I'm running a Tombstone machine that's functioning as a server. The machine is located somewhere with a fast connection, and not somewhere that I have easy access to. As such, I want this machine to do its best to boot up and get onto the network, no matter what happens on boot, so that I have a chance to actually fix the problem. Lately when it boots it runs into an NFS mounting error, claiming that some of my NFS-mounted drives have unexpected inconsistencies. It says unexpected error - help! and then quits to a /bin/sh single-user-mode prompt. As I am 10 miles away, this is decidedly unhelpful. I don't care if it can't mount some irrelevant drive or not; I want it to boot up and ask me questions later. You probably want your NFS entries in fstab to have the noauto option, and you _definitely_ want the last two fields to be zeroes. Even if you _do_ want the NFS mounts to come up at boot I would still set them to be noauto and then write your own script to try to mount them later. Is there a way that I can set the machine to do its best to boot no matter what it finds at boot time? Thanks in advance for any help you can provide, The bootup rc script is just a sh script, you can hack it to do whatever you want. That said, it only bails out if there's a (potentially) significant problem. Given that this is a remote machine, you should be extra-careful when modifying anything to do with the startup process, especially fstab or any firewall rules. You could also look at options like a serial console, IP KVM, or something like a LightsOut card for your system. JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Switching terminals under VMWare Fusion
On Wednesday 12 March 2008 04:37:44 pm Alexander Sack wrote: On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 4:29 PM, Alexander Sack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Everydoy: I apologize if this isn't exactly the right place but I'm out of options! I've posted on the Fusion community website up on vmware.com but am still lost. I'm running 7.0-RELEASE under VMWare Fusion on a MBP/Leopard ( 10.5.1). I've installed the vmware-tools port as well as the tools shipped with Fusion and made some edits to accommodate 7.0-RELEASE. All is well minus the fact that either the ALT key or some other issue is preventing me from switching terminals (ALT-F1, F2, etc.). Has anyone seen this problem before? If you run Workstation or Fusion have you seen any issues with switching terminals? Any pointers would be much appreciated! Btw, the reason why I say its the handling of the ALT key is that I can't get into kdb (ALT-CTLR-ESC, etc.). This is really frustrating! -aps I just happened to read this from a Workstation VM so I played around with it a bit. The reason ctrl-alt keystrokes don't work is that they never get to the VM. VMware uses them for its own hotkey combos: ctrl-alt = release mouse/keyboard, ctrl-alt-enter = toggle full-screen, ctrl-alt-right = next running VM, etc. I went into the options for VMware (on the host, Windows in my case) and changed the hotkey to ctrl-alt-shift. It didn't take effect immediately, but once I paused my VM, closed VMware and started it back up again I was able to use ctrl-alt combos in my VM. That includes switching to a virtual terminal from X, switching workspaces in xfce (ctrl-alt-left and right), etc. JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VPN - Which way to go?
On Wednesday 05 March 2008 06:21:47 pm Alphons Fonz van Werven wrote: I need to setup a VPN connection to the university's network. Now, there's a chapter in the handbook about VPN over IPsec and there seems to be this thing called OpenVPN in the ports collection. Which is the better way to go? All I need is to obtain an IP address within the university's IP range (because otherwise I can't use their outgoing STMP), that's all. So as simple a solution as possible would be preferred. Unless you control a machine on the university side you'll have to use something interoperable with their setup. I think OpenVPN is great and use it regularly, but as far as I know it only interoperates with OpenVPN, and I'd be surprised if your university were using it. See what you can find out about the setup on the other side. If they have some sort of generic setup guide for Windows users you can probably deduce from that. If it's a straight PPTP VPN (like you'd use with Windows' dial-up networking sans IPSEC) you can use net/poptop. If they require some kind of client then you may or may not be able to get it to work, but do ask again if you learn more about what's on the other side and get stuck. JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: looks like success
On Sunday 02 March 2008 03:50:43 am Daniel Gerzo wrote: Hello B., Thursday, February 28, 2008, 9:27:03 PM, you wrote: Hello all, make delete-old (took a long time to do by hand) and make delete-old-libs (went rather quickly) if you really want to delete all things: # yes | make delete-old While I've seen this suggestion before (and it's a very unix-y way to do it), the canonical method (from build(7)) is to run make -DBATCH_DELETE_OLD_FILES delete-old What I'd like to see (although I realize this isn't the correct forum..) is a make target that produces a list of files that _would_ be deleted, which the admin could then review and approve all or remove individual files to be preserved. But until I turn this into a useful PR or a nice request on a different list just consider it a rant. :) JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: looks like success
On Monday 03 March 2008 12:45:31 pm John Nielsen wrote: On Sunday 02 March 2008 03:50:43 am Daniel Gerzo wrote: Hello B., Thursday, February 28, 2008, 9:27:03 PM, you wrote: Hello all, make delete-old (took a long time to do by hand) and make delete-old-libs (went rather quickly) if you really want to delete all things: # yes | make delete-old While I've seen this suggestion before (and it's a very unix-y way to do it), the canonical method (from build(7)) is to run make -DBATCH_DELETE_OLD_FILES delete-old What I'd like to see (although I realize this isn't the correct forum..) is a make target that produces a list of files that _would_ be deleted, which the admin could then review and approve all or remove individual files to be preserved. But until I turn this into a useful PR or a nice request on a different list just consider it a rant. :) Heh.. I didn't read the manpage I just referred to closely enough. There's a check-old (and a check-old-libs) target that makes just such a list. JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Booting from Memory Stick
On Saturday 01 March 2008 04:23:24 pm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am working on getting a FreeBSD system to boot from a USB memory stick. Would it be possible to install the operating system using the following: cd /usr/src make DESTDIR=/mnt/usbdisk world boot0cfg -v -B -o noupdate da0 Or, is there an easier way to do this? I know you've gotten some other responses, but I wanted to chime in and say that I've done this (just today, actually) using an approach similar to what you're outlining. In a nutshell: (assuming USB stick is da0, you don't care about what's on it, and you want to use the whole thing with one partition and no swap) ##prepare the destination disk, including boot blocks, and mount fdisk -BI /dev/da0 #ignore the GEOM not found message bsdlabel -wB /dev/da0s1 newfs -U -L mystick /dev/da0s1a #optional flags for softupdates and label mount /dev/ufs/mystick /mnt ##prepare obj tree (skip if you already have one with the kernel you want) cd /usr/src make buildworld make KERNCONF=MYUSBKERNEL #or GENERIC, whatever ##install to the stick cd /usr/src make KERNCONF=MYUSBKERNEL DESTDIR=/mnt installkernel make DESTDIR=/mnt installworld mergemaster -i -D /mnt #review list, answer yes to followup ?'s ##The only other thing that's required is an fstab file: echo /dev/ufs/mystick / ufs rw 1 1 /mnt/etc/fstab ##and don't forget to un-mount the stick when you're done umount /mnt That's a bit quick and dirty, obviously, but you can boot from the stick and have a complete system at this point. Setup of the root password, users, groups, hostname, interfaces, timezone, etc not included. Sysinstall or manual config (either from the initial host or after booting from the stick) can get you the rest of the way. Or you may discover that one of the other approaches suggested is easier. :) JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD 7.0 and VMware tools (was Re: FreeBSD 7RC2 and VMware tools)
On Thursday 28 February 2008 09:48:43 pm Sean Cavanaugh wrote: which version of the guest tool should I be installing for VMWare Server 1.0.4? guestd5 and guestd6 both core dump. I haven't actually tried to use any version from the ports recently, opting instead to manually use the tarball on the CD that gets inserted when you select the Install VMware Tools option in the host. JN -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 9:56 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.0 and VMware tools (was Re: FreeBSD 7RC2 and VMware tools) Barry Byrne wrote: I've had no problem installing the tools via the ports on 7.0 release on ESX server 3.0.1. ... cd /usr/ports/emulators/vmware-guestd6/ make clean install reboot. I was thinking about the ports. How does the ports version compare to the official coming with the VMware? Iv ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD 7RC2 and VMware tools
On Wednesday 27 February 2008 11:14:26 am Dimitri Yioulos wrote: On Monday 18 February 2008 5:02 pm, Dimitri Yioulos wrote: On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:58:26 -0500, John Nielsen wrote On Monday 18 February 2008 01:47:14 pm Dimitri Yioulos wrote: On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 13:29:28 -0500, John Nielsen wrote On Monday 18 February 2008 12:31:37 pm Dimitri Yioulos wrote: On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 22:44:17 -0500, John Nielsen wrote On Sunday 17 February 2008 01:06:28 pm Dimitri Yioulos wrote: I'm not sure whether to have posted this here or on a VMware list; apologies if I'm in the wrong place. The other day, I did a fresh install of v. 7RC2 from the minimal CD on a CentOS 5.1 box running VMware server 1.0.4. I had previously successfully installed v. 6.2, and upgraded to 6.3 on the same box. All has gone well, except for the installation of VMware Tools. Getting the Tools tarball and extracting the requisite files was trivial. However, when I try to run Vmware-Config-Tools.pl, I get a message saying that the program must be run on a virtual machine. Well, it is. Is there a needed FBSD package I'm missing (the Tools install program doesn't complain about it). A known issue, or bug, maybe? Or is VMware support not yet enabled? Help would be greatly appreciated. I just went through almost the same thing, installing FreeBSD 7 under VMware Workstation on Windows. The config-tools script has a hard-coded version check which looks for libc.so.6 under /lib only. Rather than mess with the script, I just hard-linked the library from /usr/local/lib/compat (where it was installed by the compat6x port). Seemed to work fine after that. You'll need to be careful not to erase it if you ever run make delete-old-libs, though. Thanks for the response! A symlink won't do for the above? Try it and see! I think I decided on a hard link since the script uses something like if [ -f /lib/libc.so.6 ] so it's looking only for a regular file and not a symlink. Hmm, when I try to hard-link (ln /usr/compat/linux/lib/libc.so.6 libc.so.6), I get ln: ./libc.so.6: Cross-device link. But, when I do a symlink, which takes, I get /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object ld-linux.so.2 not found, required by libc.so.6 when i run vmware-config-tools.pl. So, I symlink ld-linux.so.2, and run tools. Then, I get /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Undefined symbol __stdoutp referenced from COPY relocation in /usr/local/sbin/vmware-checkvm. Arrgh. Any other ideas? You have /usr on a different partition than / in your VM, so you can't do a hard link. I would just copy the file back to /lib and not worry about it. Linking in other random libraries will cause problems, as you've observed. JN If I copy libc.so.6 to /lib, then tools complains about ld-linux.so.2. If I copy ld-linux.so.2, it then complains about /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Undefined symbol __stdoutp referenced from COPY relocation in /usr/local/sbin/vmware-checkvm. This is pretty much the same as if I symlink the two files. Even though I'm a glass half-full guy, this is beginning to look dire (but it's the worst thing to happen to me, I'm sure I'll live). Still, it would be nice to get this working. I did this a few days ago: /lib/libc.so. existed. I symlinked libc.so.6 to it. I then proceeded to install VMware Tools without complaint. However, I'm not sure if there's a vmware FreeBSD NIC driver. If there is, it's not being used (as per dmesg, the AMD PCnet-PCI driver appears to be used). On a Linux vm (please, no stone throwing :-) ), to use the vmxnet driver, I'd stop the network service, load the vmxnet driver module, then restart the service. Is there a similar procedure on FreeBSD? FreeBSD 7 handles the NIC with the le(4) driver, which is built in to the GENERIC kernel by default. In order for the hardware to be available for the vmxnet driver to attach to, le needs to be disabled. I would do this by building a custom kernel that doesn't include it, but it may also be possible using device.hints. Once you're able to boot without another driver attaching to the hardware, you should be able to load the vmxnet module and have it see the hardware. If it's available and will work with 7.0, that is.. I've been happy enough with re(4) that I haven't gone that route myself. Further, 64-bit VM's use an e1000 NIC which is supported by the em driver. JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: wi0 (4.11) = rum0 (7.0)
On Thursday 21 February 2008 02:46:09 am Lystopad Oleksandr wrote: Hi! I have two FreeBSD boxes. One with 4.11 and wi0 device, and another with 7.0-PRE with rum0 device. I need to connect wi0 and rum0 via adhoc mode. 7.0 cant find wi0 device with ifconfig rum0 scan. Please, help me to connect this two networks together. ifconfig rum0: rum0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500 ether 00:c0:a8:f4:53:18 media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet DS/11Mbps mode 11b adhoc status: no carrier ssid MYNET channel 1 (2412 Mhz 11b) bssid 00:02:2d:30:2d:22 authmode OPEN privacy OFF txpower 50 scanvalid 60 bgscan bgscanintvl 300 bgscanidle 250 roam:rssi11b 7 roam:rate11b 1 roaming MANUAL ifconfig wi0: wi0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 inet 10.xx.xx.10 netmask 0xfffc broadcast 10.xx.xx.11 ether 00:02:2d:30:2d:22 media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect (DS/11Mbps adhoc) status: associated ssid MYNET 1:RS stationname my-name channel 1 authmode OPEN powersavemode OFF powersavesleep 100 wepmode OFF weptxkey 1 I'm pretty sure you only want one of the adapters in ad-hoc mode. The other one can just be in station mode. JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD 6.3 as guest: vmware-config.pl problem
On Monday 18 February 2008 03:07:48 pm Olivier Robert wrote: I try to install FreeBSD 6.3 64 bits in a Fedora VMware Workstation 6.0..2. I have done the install by choosing ALL + no extra packages (but bash). Xorg is 1.4.0 I can have a working X with vesa drivers. When running ./vmware-config-tools.pl, I get the following: - Stopping VMware Tools services in the virtual machine: Guest operating system daemon: done Guest memory manager: done Detected X.org version 0.0.0. No drivers for X.org version: 0.0.0. It replaced the vesa driver in xorg.conf as it should do, but X wouldn't start anymore because the vmware module does not exist. I was expecting to see some compilation going on here to build the necessary stuff, but as it doesn't detect Xorg, it doesn't build the appropriate module (I guess) Anyone encountered this problem? Any help greatly appreciated. The script is too old to know what to do with a modular X.org so the version detection breaks. Fortunately, X.org ships with the vmware (video) and vmmouse (input) drivers these days. If they are not installed in your VM then you can install them by hand from ports/x11-drivers/xf86-video-vmware and ports/x11-drivers/xf86-input-vmmouse respectively. Alternatively you can do something like cd /usr/ports/x11-drivers-xorg-drivers make config, select the vm drivers from the list, and then upgrade the xorg-drivers port (portupgrade -f xorg-drivers if you use portupgrade). You can install and use these drivers without ever installing the VMware tools, although the guestd and memctl components of the tools are useful. JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD 7RC2 and VMware tools
On Monday 18 February 2008 01:47:14 pm Dimitri Yioulos wrote: On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 13:29:28 -0500, John Nielsen wrote On Monday 18 February 2008 12:31:37 pm Dimitri Yioulos wrote: On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 22:44:17 -0500, John Nielsen wrote On Sunday 17 February 2008 01:06:28 pm Dimitri Yioulos wrote: I'm not sure whether to have posted this here or on a VMware list; apologies if I'm in the wrong place. The other day, I did a fresh install of v. 7RC2 from the minimal CD on a CentOS 5.1 box running VMware server 1.0.4. I had previously successfully installed v. 6.2, and upgraded to 6.3 on the same box. All has gone well, except for the installation of VMware Tools. Getting the Tools tarball and extracting the requisite files was trivial. However, when I try to run Vmware-Config-Tools.pl, I get a message saying that the program must be run on a virtual machine. Well, it is. Is there a needed FBSD package I'm missing (the Tools install program doesn't complain about it). A known issue, or bug, maybe? Or is VMware support not yet enabled? Help would be greatly appreciated. I just went through almost the same thing, installing FreeBSD 7 under VMware Workstation on Windows. The config-tools script has a hard-coded version check which looks for libc.so.6 under /lib only. Rather than mess with the script, I just hard-linked the library from /usr/local/lib/compat (where it was installed by the compat6x port). Seemed to work fine after that. You'll need to be careful not to erase it if you ever run make delete-old-libs, though. Thanks for the response! A symlink won't do for the above? Try it and see! I think I decided on a hard link since the script uses something like if [ -f /lib/libc.so.6 ] so it's looking only for a regular file and not a symlink. Hmm, when I try to hard-link (ln /usr/compat/linux/lib/libc.so.6 libc.so.6), I get ln: ./libc.so.6: Cross-device link. But, when I do a symlink, which takes, I get /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object ld-linux.so.2 not found, required by libc.so.6 when i run vmware-config-tools.pl. So, I symlink ld-linux.so.2, and run tools. Then, I get /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Undefined symbol __stdoutp referenced from COPY relocation in /usr/local/sbin/vmware-checkvm. Arrgh. Any other ideas? You have /usr on a different partition than / in your VM, so you can't do a hard link. I would just copy the file back to /lib and not worry about it. Linking in other random libraries will cause problems, as you've observed. JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD 7RC2 and VMware tools
On Sunday 17 February 2008 01:06:28 pm Dimitri Yioulos wrote: I'm not sure whether to have posted this here or on a VMware list; apologies if I'm in the wrong place. The other day, I did a fresh install of v. 7RC2 from the minimal CD on a CentOS 5.1 box running VMware server 1.0.4. I had previously successfully installed v. 6.2, and upgraded to 6.3 on the same box. All has gone well, except for the installation of VMware Tools. Getting the Tools tarball and extracting the requisite files was trivial. However, when I try to run Vmware-Config-Tools.pl, I get a message saying that the program must be run on a virtual machine. Well, it is. Is there a needed FBSD package I'm missing (the Tools install program doesn't complain about it). A known issue, or bug, maybe? Or is VMware support not yet enabled? Help would be greatly appreciated. I just went through almost the same thing, installing FreeBSD 7 under VMware Workstation on Windows. The config-tools script has a hard-coded version check which looks for libc.so.6 under /lib only. Rather than mess with the script, I just hard-linked the library from /usr/local/lib/compat (where it was installed by the compat6x port). Seemed to work fine after that. You'll need to be careful not to erase it if you ever run make delete-old-libs, though. JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Any way to configure VIA Chrome9?
Quoting Tore Lund [EMAIL PROTECTED]: My new motherboard has the built-in VIA Chrome9 graphics processor, which seems to use the xf86-video-via driver. The driver works, no doubt about that, but I badly want to configure gamma, contrast, etc. There is supposedly a configuraton utility for Linux, but the few comments I can find about it are not very encouraging. After all, even the s3gamma utility for Windows is rather clunky and lackluster. I may simply have to buy yet another grahics card (there is no AGP slot on this board). But it seems odd that there is no way to configure this processor, which otherwise seems fairly capable (unlike, say, the nv driver). Being able to somehow set gamma independently on the RGB channels might be all I need. Thanks for any hints. I haven't used it, but you may want to check out the openchrome project (http://www.openchrome.org). There is a FreeBSD port available in the ports tree under x11-drivers/xf86-video-openchrome. JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Huawei 3g Modem
, dmesg shows a lot of lines like these: ucom0: ubsa_request: STALLED ucom0: ubsa_request: STALLED I've seen these before and in my case (using a different 3g modem) they were harmless. Can anyone help me to get this to work? Thanks and best regards, Focus your efforts on the ppp documentation and look for working examples in the archives. This thread (started by me) is an example, and also mentions the STALLED messages: http://groups.google.com/group/mailing.freebsd.mobile/browse_thread/thread/8f47c04e4d3058ed/65791d94e7a405e4?lnk=stq=john+nielsen+freebsd+ppp+v620#65791d94e7a405e4 I'm not a ppp guru by any means, so post back to the list the next time you get stuck (or if you get it working!) with what you changed/tried/learned.. JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mfsbsd
Quoting Chris Haulmark [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Anyone used mfsbsd to do remote install of a dedicated server with success? No, but.. Summary: A dedicated server has FreeBSD 6.x running with / as the entire partition of the entire disk. Hoping to find a solution to do reinstall remotely. That's unfortunate. Is it really the entire disk? If you even had, say, a swap partition you could potentially use it to bootstrap the process-- 1) Comment out swap line in /etc/fstab 2) Reboot 3) re-label and newfs the swap partition 4) dump/restore some or all of your existing setup to the new fs (or do a manual minimal install using sysinstall, or do an installworld with DESTDIR set to the new fs ...) 5) Change /etc/fstab on the ORIGINAL root partition (since that's still what you'll be booting from for now) to mount root from the new fs 6) Reboot and cross your fingers 7) Observe that the new fs is mounted and the original one is not. Make your partitioning changes. Move / restore / reinstall your directories and mountpoints as needed. 8) Make sure the /etc/fstab on the NEW root (preferrably on partition a) points to the right place. 9) Re-install the boot blocks on the disk and the slice for good measure (using fdisk and bsdlabel respectively) 10) Reboot and cross your fingers and toes 11) Observe that your original swap area is NOT mounted and that everything else is. Edit /etc/fstab to use your swap area for swap again. 12) swapon -a depenguinator seems incompatible with the current latest FreeBSD releases. Advices other than DRAC, IPKM or hire a tech are welcome. Using mfsbsd, depenguinator, or an approach like the one above there is at least one point in the process where you only get one chance to get it right. Depending on your personality this might be an adrenaline rush, but in any case you should have a backup plan such as DRAC, IPKM, or an available tech. Or an IP KVM (Belkin makes one that will let you use ISO images over the network as a USB CD). Or a serial console. etc. etc. JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FBSD or PCBSD?
Quoting Robin Becker [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: Which is a better solution for a home user? Thank you very much for your practical recommendations! ... I have had great success using PCBSD on various acers, I eventually got fed up with it being not quite identical to FreeBSD and I now have FreeBSD 6.2 on my current acer laptop (a 1680). -- I was unable to even boot my Wife's Acer (an Aspire 5520) with FreeBSD 6.3-pre or 7.0-pre. I'm also pretty sure the Acer wireless is NOT supported by any native drivers; I haven't seen any success or failure stories from anyone trying NDIS. I expect the same will be true with PC-BSD, since AFAIK their kernel is pretty much stock FreeBSD (main differences are in the installer and package management). JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Frequent DHCP requests from Wii
Quoting Jeffrey Goldberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
This is particularly a FreeBSD question, but finding that there isn't
a newsgroup for DHCP (and I am running dhcpd on FreeBSD), I'll ask
here.
We've got a Wii in the house, and I've got an entry for it in my dhcpd.conf
host wii { hardware ethernet 00:19:1d:dd:66:d3; fixed-address
wii.ewd.goldmark.org; }
which correctly resolves to 10.1.10.145
And everything works fine. However, the Wii keeps on making requests
every few minutes. Here is a bit of the dhcpd logs. The requests
come at irregular 1, 2, 5, and 9 minute intervals in this bit of the
log.
Jan 9 11:59:08 kreacher dhcpd: DHCPREQUEST for 10.1.10.145 from
00:19:1d:dd:66:d3 via em0
Jan 9 11:59:08 kreacher dhcpd: DHCPACK on 10.1.10.145 to
00:19:1d:dd: 66:d3 via em0
[additional log entries snipped]
Was there a question in there somewhere? :)
You could try putting a long-ish default-lease-time statement in your
subnet clause in dhcpd.conf. See also the max-lease-time and
min-lease-time statments in dhcpd.conf(5).
If you have those already and the Wii isn't respecting them then that's
an issue to take up with Nintendo. You could also consider setting the
IP on the Wii statically (not sure if that's supported or if you move
it around to different networks at all) or trying to adjust dhcpd's
logging if that's all that's bothering you...
JN
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Re: changing the postion of a partion in fdisk
Quoting Aryeh M. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have my FreeBSD partition as partition 1 and my ntfs as partition 2 but Vista insists that there is no suitable partion to install to (even though the ntfs partition is big enough)... after some research I found that vista absolutely insists that the ntfs partition be partition 1... how do I swap them and/or delete the ntfs one and renumber it so freebsd is in partion slot 2 (with nothing in 1 and then I can use fdisk to make a new slot 1) You can probably just use FreeBSD's fdisk to swap them. Something along the lines of: 1) Verify your backups 2) Boot from a FreeBSD Rescue CD and enter the fixit shell 3) Type fdisk /dev/yourdisk. I'll assume ad0 from this point. 4) Write down the output. All of it. Keep a copy in a safe place (this is actually good practice even if you're _not_ intentionally messing with your partitions). If you're feeling clever and/or lazy you could of course bring up a line printer or a network interface and print the output or copy it to another machine (from which you should then print it), but a file on the local disk will not serve (and a file on the mfsroot will go away as soon as you reboot or if anything unexpected happens, which it usually does). 5) Type fdisk -u /dev/ad0 (or whatever your disk is). Manually enter the numbers (including explicitly setting the start/end sector, etc) for partition 2 as partition 1 and vice versa. Think about which partition you want to mark as active (probably 2, see step 10) and do so. Verify your changes against your printout, then commit them. 6) Type ls /dev/ad0* and verify that you see the devices you expect (including your FreeBSD partitions, probably something like ad0s2[a-d]). 7) Mount your root partition, e.g. mount /dev/ad0s2a /mnt. If it doesn't mount then abort. Run fdisk again and change the values back to what they were initially. 8) Edit your fstab to update the slice numbers. e.g. vi /mnt/etc/fstab or sed -e s/ad0s1/ad0s2/g /mnt/etc/fstab /mnt/etc/fstab.new followed by a sanity check and a couple mv commands. 9) Unmount your root partition, e.g. umount /mnt. 10) Reboot and verify that your FreeBSD installation is still alive. 11) Carry on... This information comes with no warranty. :) JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fortune
Quoting Jon Dowd [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Jan 8, 2008 9:09 AM, Jonathan Horne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jon Dowd wrote: Is there a port for the game fortune? I recently installed 6.2 AMD64 and I can't find it when I do a 'pkg_add -rv fortune' or 'pkg_add -rv fortune-mod' The ones I find I am not interested in; such as: zh-fortunetw-1.3 wmfortune-0.241_2 fortune-mod-bible-1.0_1 fortune-mod-bofh-2.0_3 fortune-mod-culmea-culmilor-2005.12.15 fortune-mod-ferengi_rules_of_acquisition-2006.01.26 fortune-mod-futurama-0.2_3 fortune-mod-the-godfather-2.0 fortuneit-1.99 pl-fortunepl-0.0.20051022 ru-fortune-bashorgru-20070808 ru-fortuneru-0.9 fortunelock-0.1.2 e17-splash-fortune-1.1_1 Am I missing something? Thanks for your help. its a part of the base system afaik. $ which fortune /usr/games/fortune Somehow there is nothing in my /usr/games directiory. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ ls -l /usr/games/ total 0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] How do I fix that? You probably did a minimal install and have not yet updated, correct? Install the games distribution from sysinstall or just do a buildworld/installworld. JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mounting geom partition
Quoting John Clement [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Quite some time ago I setup a machine with a couple of 250GB disks in that were mirrored using geom, although I can't remember if I mounted it as 1x 250GB partition or several smaller ones. The machine they were in died, and I kept hold of one of the two disks so I could restore the data. I'm now at that point and it occurs to me that I don't know for sure how to remount it. Before I plug it in and accidentally write over the partition table or something, I just wanted to check with someone that what I'm thinking is about right. Having been going over the documentation again and from what I remember the partition table should still be there (fdisk should tell me this) and I should, in theory, be able to simply mount the partition(s) as regular filesystem(s), is this correct? Thanks in advance! That's correct. Additionally, if you have the gmirror kernel module loaded it will recognize the mirror component(s) and you will be able to access it/them as (degraded) gmirror devices. JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Small Unix install
Quoting DAve [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I am looking for a small install for an old laptop. I have an old but quite reliable Toshiba 330CDT that used to be my personal laptop. I ran FBSD 3.x/4.x on it for years but it has been wiped and in a closet for years. I want to use it again just to access a few web forums and read my email. I don't do POV RAY or 3D, I don't need Open Office, I don't watch any Tubes. Mutt, Fluxbox and a minimal browser would make me happy. I don't have the time or inclination to roll my own again. PCBSD can't finish the install due to only having 96mb of memory. Desktop BSD wants more than 4gb of drive space just to complete the install. I currently have 98SE on it only consuming 300mb and it runs fine, but it's 98SE ;^) Does anyone know of anything ready to install? BSD, Linux, I don't care. Is there a reason a standard installation of FreeBSD 4/6/7 won't work for you? Just do a minimal install of the OS from CD or network then install [parts of] X, fluxbox, and your other apps from ports or packages and away you go. You could weigh the benefits [possible memory savings] of compiling your own kernel against the time and disk space required, but you shouldn't ever have to build world or ports unless you feel so inclined, especially now that freebsd-update is part of the base system. JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: rough method of cleaning the ports tree
On Tuesday 18 December 2007, Erich Dollansky wrote: after noticing how large my ports tree grows while compiling, I thought of simply deleting it and do a CVSup to get a new one after the compilation is finished. This should be much faster and also should do some kind o defragmentation. I simply cannot believe that the huge ports tree will still be very well organised after some months. What does the list think of this method? There are at least two better ways of doing this that will take less time and not put unnecessary load on the CVS servers. 1) Delete work directories after building ports. If you use the clean make target it will do this automatically. I typically do make install clean to install the port then delete the work directory in one command. Portupgrade and other tools will generally do this as well. If you already installed a port you can just do make clean to get rid of its work directory. If you (suspect that you) have a large number of work directories (either because your builds got interrupted or you forgot to use the clean target) you can do something like find /usr/ports -maxdepth 3 -type d -name work -delete to get them all in one go. 2) Use WRKDIRPREFIX. I set this in my .cshrc, but you can set it manually or in whatever file is appropriate for your (root) shell. e.g. after doing a setenv WRKDIRPREFIX /usr/scratch all of the work directories are created under /usr/scratch/usr/ports/category/portname instead of under /usr/ports directly. Whenever I feel like cleaning up I can just rm -r /usr/scratch/usr/ports without losing anything. See man ports for more information on the port build infrastructure and associated make targets and environment variables. The other thing in the ports collection that tends to take up space is the distfiles directory. If you want to delete it wholesale then go ahead (rm -r /usr/ports/distfiles), but it's not uncommon to have multiple ports or multiple revisions of the same port use the same distfile(s), so you'll end up downloading them again and again. I prefer to use the script /usr/ports/Tools/scripts/distclean.sh. Run with a -f flag it will automatically delete all distfiles no longer referenced by any port in your ports tree. HTH, JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: still no luck in coping a 6 G dvd to a 4.7 dvd.
Quoting Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 11:28:10AM +0100, Michel Talon wrote: Gary Kline wrote: Guys, I've set up a test account which is pure KDE. Still, using both my Pioneer and the Lite-on burners, no luck in burning a DVD that is larger than thee default. How do want this to work? You have to recompress the initial DVD stream, and for that there is an excellent program to run under your KDE account (k9copy). i don't seem too get very far with k9copy. I have two burners, and can open either device. I had it set to read from cd0 and wwrite to cd1. The app reports that there is no documentation available for k9copy. Is there a front commmand string I can use here? Or online docs? FWIW the most useful howto on DVD backup techniques I've ever seen is here: http://kavlon.org/index.php/dvdbackup It says it's for Linux but all of the programs needed are available in FreeBSD's ports tree. It's command-line based, but parts of it could be scripted, etc. One additional note on the original ripping phase: I find tccat to be more reliable than vobcopy, although with some DVD's it makes sense to try both. And vobcopy is better at guessing which title is the feature if there is more than one. JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Getting DHCP to 'update' DNS records locally
On Thursday 29 November 2007, Clint Olsen wrote: Apologies if this isn't the correct forum. I'd like to configure DNS on my home network but make it work simultaneously with DHCP. So, when hosts are plugged into the network and issued an IP, DNS is updated to reflect the hostnames. That way I can refer to all my machines by name in all databases and I can avoid hardcoding IP addresses. I know Windows allows name-based recognition even in the instance you're using DHCP, but I'd like it to work more generally with any type of machine on the network. The problem is, when I search for terms related to this, I get hits for DynDNS and all that stuff which is /not/ what I want. I'm not trying to update a remote DNS record. This is just a local thing. If there's a lightweight DNS server that comes with a DHCP daemon, that would be fine too. I just need to know where to start. You can do this fairly easily with isc-dhcp3-server and bind/named. The dhcpd.conf(5) manpage (from isc-dhcp3-server) goes into quite a bit of detail on how to set this up (including what to put in named.conf). JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Desktop printing, a request for your experiences
Quoting Dominic Marks [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Can anyone give me their experiences of desktop printing (OpenOffice/KDE/Gnome/Mozilla Firefox and Thunderbird, etc) recently? I haven't tried for a while but it was a pain to setup and maintain the last time I looked at it. If you are using this for real-work and you are getting good results please let me know what you are using (software and hardware ideally). The environment I would like to put this into is a family house, very small setup with 2 PCs and 2 printers. Currently both are Windows PCs but one is experiencing all of the classic issues with a multi-year Windows installation and since they are used exclusively for E-Mail and word processing I am interested in migrating one PC over to FreeBSD. .. If the solution was a Linux distro (box package, or otherwise) I would also be interested. ... I am not a subscriber so please keep me CC'ed in the discussion. At home I have one headless FreeBSD server, one FreeBSD desktop, one Windows desktop, and one or more laptops running either OS at various times. I also have an old cheap (non-PS) laser printer and a new-ish multifunction photo printer. The laser printer is connected to the FreeBSD server, which runs CUPS and Samba, among other things. The inkjet is connected to the Windows Desktop. Printing from FreeBSD (all stations also use CUPS) to the laser printer always works fine. Printing from Windows to the laster printer (talking to Samba with a CUPS backend) works fine most of the time. Occasionally graphics-intensive jobs will come out screwy, and Acrobat Reader doesn't always behave well for some reason (even though I'm using the Adobe Windows PS driver..). Printing from Windows to the inkjet always works well, and the vendor driver obviously supports all of the printer's features. Printing from FreeBSD to the inkjet (using an SMB backend to CUPS on the FreeBSD server) works well for standard documents and resolutions. If I need to print high-res or borderless photos I do it from Windows. (I also use the Windows station for scanning.) Much of the above could be different for different people using different printers. In my case attaching the dumb laser printer to a FreeBSD server makes it more usable, whereas attaching the inkjet printer to the FreeBSD server made it less so (vs Windows). The gutenprint drivers are catching up to the vendor ones but for this printer they aren't there yet. On the whole I'm quite happy with my CUPS server on FreeBSD, especially when printing from other CUPS-capable workstations (i.e. anything BUT Windows). Printers show up automatically and work the same from all stations with no need to distribute drivers, etc. JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: make delete-old question
On Sunday 04 November 2007, Per olof Ljungmark wrote: Hi, Is there a clever way to run make delete-old in /usr/src so that (y) will be the default answer? Otherwise it's pressing y 437 times in my case... This is covered in build(7), one of the manpages in the very-useful-but-not-very-obvious category (along with ports, hier, security and tuning IMO (all of which are also in section 7 of the manual..)) Anyway, it's make -DBATCH_DELETE_OLD_FILES delete-old make -DBATCH_DELETE_OLD_FILES delete-old-libs JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Determining the number of files in a directory
On Saturday 03 November 2007, Daniel Bye wrote: On Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 12:41:51PM +, Daniel Bye wrote: On Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 05:27:06AM -0700, White Hat wrote: This is probably a dumb question; however, I never let a little thing like that bother me in the past. Heheh! You and many more, my friend, myself absolutely included! Using FreeBSD-6.2 and Bash, how do I determine the number of files in a given directory? I have tried all sorts of combinations using different flags with the 'ls' command; however, none of them displays the number of files in the directory. $ ls | wc -l will show you how many files and directories in the current (target) directory. To count just files, and exclude directories, you could try something like $ find /target/directory -type f -print | wc -l Except of course, that would descend into the subdirectories you're trying not to count... Sorry - an object lesson in not hitting send before you've tested what you scribbled. find /target/directory -type f -maxdepth 1 | wc -l should do the trick. See also man find and man wc, of course. JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mounting/examining dd image?
On Saturday 03 November 2007, Jon Drukman wrote: Hm, anything that works in Freebsd 4.9? I've never been able to install 5.0 or higher on this machine, it always freezes when booting. In 4.x the analogous command is called vnconfig with slightly different syntax. On Nov 2, 2007 10:22 PM, John Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 02 November 2007, Jon Drukman wrote: I was trying to transplant my system from a small, old drive to a big, new one. I made a dd dump of the entire small drive, but then I accidentally destroyed the drive (be careful with bare drives and metal PC cases...) Anyway, I have the dd file but I don't have a spare drive onto which to copy it. Is there a way to read its contents/mount it/explore it/hopefully extract files from it on a running system? Yes there is: mdconfig -a -t vnode -f /path/to/dd/image/file That will cause the file to be treated as an md device. See also man mdconfig. The output of that command is the newly created /dev/md? device node. Depending on whether you dumped the whole disk, a slice, or a partition there may be additional devices. If you dd'ed the whole disk your former root partition might show up as /dev/md0s1a, for example. Once you've identified the device node(s) that contain(s) the filesystem(s) you're interested in, just mount it/them like you would any other device, e.g. mount /dev/md0s1a /mnt JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mounting/examining dd image?
On Friday 02 November 2007, Jon Drukman wrote: I was trying to transplant my system from a small, old drive to a big, new one. I made a dd dump of the entire small drive, but then I accidentally destroyed the drive (be careful with bare drives and metal PC cases...) Anyway, I have the dd file but I don't have a spare drive onto which to copy it. Is there a way to read its contents/mount it/explore it/hopefully extract files from it on a running system? Yes there is: mdconfig -a -t vnode -f /path/to/dd/image/file That will cause the file to be treated as an md device. See also man mdconfig. The output of that command is the newly created /dev/md? device node. Depending on whether you dumped the whole disk, a slice, or a partition there may be additional devices. If you dd'ed the whole disk your former root partition might show up as /dev/md0s1a, for example. Once you've identified the device node(s) that contain(s) the filesystem(s) you're interested in, just mount it/them like you would any other device, e.g. mount /dev/md0s1a /mnt JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: extracting 7_bit_ascii from ms_word files
Quoting spellberg_robert [EMAIL PROTECTED]: i finally ran into a situation where my existing approaces are no longer satisfactory. i never bought office. i have a twelve_year_old version of wordperfect from [ at that time ] novell that still works just fine [ i first used wordperfect in the early 1980's; why change ? ]. it doesn't recognize new ms formats. sometimes, i can use wordpad on my win_98_se box that still works; but not always. my lawyer insists on hard_copy and snail_mail, so my principal application is, actually, obviated. if files only had a few dozen lines, i could edit them by hand in vi. i simply did not have enough situations to demand a more sophisticated approach; now, i do. i started here [ over 1000 entries ] http://www.freebsd.org/ports/textproc.html where i found nothing relevant under doc and where i found word2x, which looks --really-- old and where i found wv, which seemed more promising. wv by itself could probably do most of what you're looking for. It includes a wvText binary which produces quasi-formatted text-only output from .doc input. It also includes wvHtml, wvPS, wvPDF, wvLatex, etc. Others have already commented on the GUI-based Word workalikes available but I'll add my own. I like Abiword since it's lightweight but I tend to use OpenOffice.org on modern-ish machines since it can handle more bells and whistles (and if I'm using a word processor instead of a text editor then bells and whistles are frequently the reason). Koffice/kword is between the other two in regard to complexity and is a good alternative if something doesn't work quite right elsewhere. All can read and write Word documents compatible with the 97/XP/2003 versions of Office. Not sure about the Word 2007 format. -JN searching the questions and newbies mail archives, i found antiword and catdoc, but this is from 2002_feb. while reading up on wv, i found this http://www.abisource.com/ which caused me to search. i found this http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=abiwordstype=all both of these seem to jog my memory, but my memory my application is to exchange text files, by e_mail, with someone who thinks ms products are the be_all and end_all [ after all, if everyone is spending thousands of dollars on software, just like he is, what makes me so special ? ]. i anticipate acquiring other people like this in the near future, so my time on this just may be well_spent. in general, these are not the kind of folks who find manipulating files intuitively obvious. yet, i may find that i have to give them special instruction. i am not looking for something wonderful, just reasonably competent and reasonably current. if, in addition to my desired direction, i can convert a 7_bit_ascii to a .doc file for his benefit, that's some further whining that i can avoid. i strongly suspect that, as soon as this becomes a solved problem, ms changes something critical, so this may be a fool's errand. none_the_less, i'll give it a try. which one or several things are generally accepted for this format_conversion task ? is this abiword one of them or do i seek something else ? if something else, can someone point me in a useful direction [ whether or not it is something i have named ] ? while 6.2 and, soon, 7.x are de rigeur, if it works on 4.11 [ very long story ], that's a plus. thanks whole bunches in advance. [ please cc me, as my attempt to re_subscribe to the list as a courtesy doesn't seem to be taking. ] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
