Re: too many video drivers
--- On Tue, 3/31/09, Adam Vandemore amvandem...@gmail.com wrote: From: Adam Vandemore amvandem...@gmail.com Subject: Re: too many video drivers To: FreeBSD freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tuesday, March 31, 2009, 3:39 PM Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote: Hi, I am rebuilding ports and realize that i have too many input/video drivers for x-win installed. i know i need nv driver since my graphic card is from nvidia, and i want to deinstall all others. but i am not sure if its safe to do so, e.g. i am confused by xf86-video-chips since i don't know what kind of chip that stands for. can someone tell me which are basics and which are safe to remove? thanks!! TFC Depending on what versions of things you use the nvidia-driver port and /usr/ports/x11-drivers/xf86-video-nouveau may be replacements for the nv driver. Honestly I'm not really sure what the xf86-video-chips port does, but I don't think it's related to nvidia and is perhaps for older video chipsets. x11/nvidia-driver is the driver released by nvidia. It doesn't work on architectures other than i386 and has some other limitations (breaks certain components of KDE4, for one other thing - see the 'black windows bug'.) It does support 3d acceleration using the nvidia GPU, though. The x11-drivers/xf86-video-nv port is the open source Xorg driver for nvidia chipsets. It doesn't support 3d acceleration using the GPU. Neither is a perfect solution, and the disparity has been an issue for years now... - mdh ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Question about entry in auth.log
--- On Sat, 11/15/08, Jeremy Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jeremy Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Question about entry in auth.log To: Lisa Casey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Saturday, November 15, 2008, 2:37 AM On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 10:00:13PM -0500, Lisa Casey wrote: The individual in Romania *was not* able to log in as michael. The message you saw was sshd saying Someone's trying to SSH in as user michael; SSH key negotiation failed, and now I'm asking them to type in their password manually. It's not a prank. Shady online individuals have written scripts/tools that repetitively beat on sshd, trying to find an account they can log in as. They're simply scanning for valid accounts, and they also often try many passwords over and over (common things, such as the username as a password). Welcome to the Internet circa 2008. :( So how do I solve this problem? The easiest way: change sshd to listen on a port *other* than 22. Many people pick . This relieves 99% of the pain, but requires you to tell your users/co-workers/peers My box listens on port for ssh, not 22. A secondary way: programs which monitor logs and add firewall block rules when they see too many brute force attempts coming from an IP address: ports/security/blocksshd ports/security/sshblock ports/security/sshguard (I think I forgot one more, but those are the main three) I've considered writing an sshd patch for OpenSSH to add bad-authentication throttling to it, such that where X number of invalid attempts featuring at least Y different usernames in Z seconds from the same IP causes sshd to ignore that IP outright for a given time. This would prevent syslog spam and not require any third-party applications. I've written a socket abstraction library that supports throttling of this sort internally, and it's actually very easy to implement on its own. Implementing it in OpenSSH may be more or less difficult depending on whether there's any central function that is called *every* time an authentication attempt fails. If a few folks respond saying I'd sure like that patch!, I would likely become more motivated to do so sooner. - mdh ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: host -6 failure
--- On Sun, 11/9/08, David Horn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: David Horn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: host -6 failure
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Date: Sunday, November 9, 2008, 8:34 PM
On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 3:13 AM, mdh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- On Sat, 11/8/08, David Horn
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: David Horn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: host -6 failure
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Date: Saturday, November 8, 2008, 8:10 PM
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 7:55 PM, mdh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- On Sat, 11/8/08, David Horn
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: David Horn
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: host -6 failure
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Date: Saturday, November 8, 2008, 7:25 PM
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 2:18 PM, mdh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Howdy folks,
I'm having a little trouble
understanding
a
problem that the `host` command in
RELENG_7_0
(very recent)
is having.
The '-6' on the command line for
host(1)
forces an
IPv6 only
connection to your nameserver, not
necessarily a
query for the
hostname in question. In this case, your
nameservers
listed in the
warnings are IPv4 nameservers that
host(1) is
attempting to
connect to
using an ipv4 mapped ipv6 address (which
by
default is
disabled in the
kernel) In other words, don't use
host -6 for
this
scenario.
Yet as I pointed out, the second nameserver
in my
resolv.conf is ::1 - so shouldn't it work with
that?
It's clearly trying to contact the first and
third
nameservers listed. If the behavior I'm
experiencing is
the proper behavior, then let me pose this
question: when
would anyone conceivably want to use the -6
option, and why
does it exist? My intent was to force a query to
hit the
nameserver on ::1 rather than 127.0.0.1.
domain mydomain
search mydomain
nameserver 127.0.0.1
nameserver ::1
nameserver IP.IP.IP.8
The DNS server running on localhost
is
authoritative
for mydomain. I can ping it via
localhost using
both v4 and
v6, and I can also ping the external v4
and v6
addresses
just fine remotely.
As I said, I'm new to IPv6, but
this
behavior
seems to be counterintuitive. Am I just
doing it
wrong?
For diagnosing your own nameservers, you
are
better off
using the
dig(1) utility.
Example:
dig ipv6.google.com @::1
This causes a dns query for an IPv6
address (aka
query) for the
hostname of ipv6.google.com
using the
nameserver on the IPv6
localhost loopback address (::1), and
will give a
very nice
verbose
output. man dig for more details.
That is more useful, but still doesn't
stifle my
desire to stomp a potential bug in the base
system.
Right after sending, I realized that I did not
tell you all
of the answer
host(1) will successfully query ::1 when named is
setup to
listen on
::1 in named.conf, and ::1 is listed in
/etc/resolv.conf (I
just ran a
test on my box to be sure that it works this way
with the
-6 switch)
Example line from /etc/namedb/named.conf:
listen-on-v6{ ::1; any; };
And of course you need to restart named after the
config
change(
/etc/rc.d/named restart)
To make sure that it is listening on the IPv6
loopback
address:
netstat -anW -f inet6
I do not remember the minimum version of bind (aka
named)
required for
IPv6 off the top of my head, but I am running
9.4.2-P2 on
my IPv6
machine.
All of the conditions for success are true, however it
fails. My DNS server software is responsing on ::1 port 53
(tcp and udp), and ::1 is the second nameserver listed in
resolv.conf. Still, host -6 fails as previously stated...
According to what you've said so far, this leads me to
believe that it ought to work as expected, and not error out
in the way I'm seeing.
Am I missing something here? Is my lack of general
IPv6 knowledge causing me to blindly assume something
incorrectly?
If all of the conditions for success were true, you would
*not* be
having a problem. You are likely missing something simple.
I suggest that you read about about general IPv6 network
troubleshooting, and bind. The handbook has some good
information
here:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/network-dns.html
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/network-ipv6.html
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/developers-handbook/ipv6.html
You have yet to provide any new diagnostic output. What
was the result of:
netstat -anW -f inet6
Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address(state)
tcp6 0 0 *.53 *.*
LISTEN
tcp6 0 0 *.22
Re: host -6 failure
--- On Sat, 11/8/08, David Horn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: David Horn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: host -6 failure
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Date: Saturday, November 8, 2008, 8:10 PM
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 7:55 PM, mdh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- On Sat, 11/8/08, David Horn
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: David Horn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: host -6 failure
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Date: Saturday, November 8, 2008, 7:25 PM
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 2:18 PM, mdh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Howdy folks,
I'm having a little trouble understanding
a
problem that the `host` command in RELENG_7_0
(very recent)
is having.
The '-6' on the command line for host(1)
forces an
IPv6 only
connection to your nameserver, not necessarily a
query for the
hostname in question. In this case, your
nameservers
listed in the
warnings are IPv4 nameservers that host(1) is
attempting to
connect to
using an ipv4 mapped ipv6 address (which by
default is
disabled in the
kernel) In other words, don't use host -6 for
this
scenario.
Yet as I pointed out, the second nameserver in my
resolv.conf is ::1 - so shouldn't it work with that?
It's clearly trying to contact the first and third
nameservers listed. If the behavior I'm experiencing is
the proper behavior, then let me pose this question: when
would anyone conceivably want to use the -6 option, and why
does it exist? My intent was to force a query to hit the
nameserver on ::1 rather than 127.0.0.1.
domain mydomain
search mydomain
nameserver 127.0.0.1
nameserver ::1
nameserver IP.IP.IP.8
The DNS server running on localhost is
authoritative
for mydomain. I can ping it via localhost using
both v4 and
v6, and I can also ping the external v4 and v6
addresses
just fine remotely.
As I said, I'm new to IPv6, but this
behavior
seems to be counterintuitive. Am I just doing it
wrong?
For diagnosing your own nameservers, you are
better off
using the
dig(1) utility.
Example:
dig ipv6.google.com @::1
This causes a dns query for an IPv6 address (aka
query) for the
hostname of ipv6.google.com using the
nameserver on the IPv6
localhost loopback address (::1), and will give a
very nice
verbose
output. man dig for more details.
That is more useful, but still doesn't stifle my
desire to stomp a potential bug in the base system.
Right after sending, I realized that I did not tell you all
of the answer
host(1) will successfully query ::1 when named is setup to
listen on
::1 in named.conf, and ::1 is listed in /etc/resolv.conf (I
just ran a
test on my box to be sure that it works this way with the
-6 switch)
Example line from /etc/namedb/named.conf:
listen-on-v6{ ::1; any; };
And of course you need to restart named after the config
change(
/etc/rc.d/named restart)
To make sure that it is listening on the IPv6 loopback
address:
netstat -anW -f inet6
I do not remember the minimum version of bind (aka named)
required for
IPv6 off the top of my head, but I am running 9.4.2-P2 on
my IPv6
machine.
All of the conditions for success are true, however it fails. My DNS server
software is responsing on ::1 port 53 (tcp and udp), and ::1 is the second
nameserver listed in resolv.conf. Still, host -6 fails as previously stated...
According to what you've said so far, this leads me to believe that it ought
to work as expected, and not error out in the way I'm seeing.
Am I missing something here? Is my lack of general IPv6 knowledge causing me
to blindly assume something incorrectly?
Thanks, Matt
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Re: host -6 failure
--- On Sat, 11/8/08, David Horn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: David Horn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: host -6 failure To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Saturday, November 8, 2008, 7:25 PM On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 2:18 PM, mdh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Howdy folks, I'm having a little trouble understanding a problem that the `host` command in RELENG_7_0 (very recent) is having. This is by and large my first time working with IPv6, which I've been meaning to learn for some time. First off, I've got my zone file configured to return a record for x1.mydomain and named isn't complaining. However, when I run `host -6 x1.mydomain`, host returns the following output: ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [/etc/namedb]: host -6 x1.mydomain /usr/src/lib/bind/isc/../../../contrib/bind9/lib/isc/unix/socket.c:1179: internal_send: :::127.0.0.1#53: Invalid argument /usr/src/lib/bind/isc/../../../contrib/bind9/lib/isc/unix/socket.c:1179: internal_send: :::IP.IP.IP.8#53: Invalid argument /usr/src/lib/bind/isc/../../../contrib/bind9/lib/isc/unix/socket.c:1179: internal_send: :::127.0.0.1#53: Invalid argument /usr/src/lib/bind/isc/../../../contrib/bind9/lib/isc/unix/socket.c:1179: internal_send: :::IP.IP.IP.8#53: Invalid argument ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached The '-6' on the command line for host(1) forces an IPv6 only connection to your nameserver, not necessarily a query for the hostname in question. In this case, your nameservers listed in the warnings are IPv4 nameservers that host(1) is attempting to connect to using an ipv4 mapped ipv6 address (which by default is disabled in the kernel) In other words, don't use host -6 for this scenario. Yet as I pointed out, the second nameserver in my resolv.conf is ::1 - so shouldn't it work with that? It's clearly trying to contact the first and third nameservers listed. If the behavior I'm experiencing is the proper behavior, then let me pose this question: when would anyone conceivably want to use the -6 option, and why does it exist? My intent was to force a query to hit the nameserver on ::1 rather than 127.0.0.1. Most recent versions of the host(1) command will do both A (IPv4 host record), and (IPv6 host record) lookups for you automatically. For example: host www.kame.net www.kame.net has address 203.178.141.194 www.kame.net has IPv6 address 2001:200:0:8002:203:47ff:fea5:3085 IP.IP.IP.8 is my ISP's DNS server, and is a third option just in case the localhost DNS server crashes or goes batty while I'm out drinking or somesuch. Here's my resolv.conf, which shows ::1 listed as the second nameserver entry - however, it seems host -6 never even tries it. domain mydomain search mydomain nameserver 127.0.0.1 nameserver ::1 nameserver IP.IP.IP.8 The DNS server running on localhost is authoritative for mydomain. I can ping it via localhost using both v4 and v6, and I can also ping the external v4 and v6 addresses just fine remotely. As I said, I'm new to IPv6, but this behavior seems to be counterintuitive. Am I just doing it wrong? For diagnosing your own nameservers, you are better off using the dig(1) utility. Example: dig ipv6.google.com @::1 This causes a dns query for an IPv6 address (aka query) for the hostname of ipv6.google.com using the nameserver on the IPv6 localhost loopback address (::1), and will give a very nice verbose output. man dig for more details. That is more useful, but still doesn't stifle my desire to stomp a potential bug in the base system. Good Luck. BTW, if you have not already setup an IPv6 tunnel to the internet, I highly recommend SixXS's (www.sixxs.net) free tunnels (and the sixxs-aiccu port), or you can look at Hurricane Electric (www.he.net), and some other tunnel brokers as well. Actually this system is located at HE. :) Thanks, - mdh ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to upgrade to KDE4
--- On Fri, 11/7/08, Andrew Falanga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Andrew Falanga [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How to upgrade to KDE4
To: RW [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Date: Friday, November 7, 2008, 9:49 AM
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 3:26 PM, RW
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 06:52:06 -0800
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
the only
thing that updated was the meta-port (I did a
portupgrade -r too).
Aside from the fact that there are separate kde
meta-ports,
portupgrade -r kde... updates the metaport and
everything that depends
on the metaport, not everything the metaport depends
on.
Thanks for the clarification. I think I had things
backwards.
Also, as I'd like to go to KDE 4, should I do a make
deinstall in
kdebase, or perhaps pkg_delete for the kde packages before
installing?
I know that the first respondent said the two versions
could be run
in tandem, and while I've got plenty of disk space for
this, it also
seems quite error prone. What would be the recommended
course?
KDE3 and KDE4 co-habitate just fine. You'll likely need KDE3 installed for
some apps which don't use KDE4 libs yet. I am pretty sure ktorrent is what
installed kde3 on my system when I upgraded recently. There are plenty of
others, though. KDE4 installs under /usr/local/kde4, while KDE3 installs under
/usr/local at this time (assuming you haven't changed port bases yourself.)
Because of this, you'll likely want to remember to add
/usr/local/kde4/{bin,sbin} to your shell search paths, and remember to use kdm
from KDE4 as your login manager (this tricked me at first, and I was wondering
for a bit why I was still getting a KDE3 login manager until I realized that
KDE4 went under /usr/local/kde4/). I would not say that it is error prone at
all. Everything has, so far, worked out of the box just fine save a couple of
KDE4 bugs I've tweaked, none of which are bad enough to prevent me from working
normally in KDE4 or to make me want to dump KDE4.
- mdh
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host -6 failure
Howdy folks, I'm having a little trouble understanding a problem that the `host` command in RELENG_7_0 (very recent) is having. This is by and large my first time working with IPv6, which I've been meaning to learn for some time. First off, I've got my zone file configured to return a record for x1.mydomain and named isn't complaining. However, when I run `host -6 x1.mydomain`, host returns the following output: ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [/etc/namedb]: host -6 x1.mydomain /usr/src/lib/bind/isc/../../../contrib/bind9/lib/isc/unix/socket.c:1179: internal_send: :::127.0.0.1#53: Invalid argument /usr/src/lib/bind/isc/../../../contrib/bind9/lib/isc/unix/socket.c:1179: internal_send: :::IP.IP.IP.8#53: Invalid argument /usr/src/lib/bind/isc/../../../contrib/bind9/lib/isc/unix/socket.c:1179: internal_send: :::127.0.0.1#53: Invalid argument /usr/src/lib/bind/isc/../../../contrib/bind9/lib/isc/unix/socket.c:1179: internal_send: :::IP.IP.IP.8#53: Invalid argument ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached IP.IP.IP.8 is my ISP's DNS server, and is a third option just in case the localhost DNS server crashes or goes batty while I'm out drinking or somesuch. Here's my resolv.conf, which shows ::1 listed as the second nameserver entry - however, it seems host -6 never even tries it. domain mydomain search mydomain nameserver 127.0.0.1 nameserver ::1 nameserver IP.IP.IP.8 The DNS server running on localhost is authoritative for mydomain. I can ping it via localhost using both v4 and v6, and I can also ping the external v4 and v6 addresses just fine remotely. As I said, I'm new to IPv6, but this behavior seems to be counterintuitive. Am I just doing it wrong? Thanks, Matt ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what is your programming language on freebsd?
--- On Thu, 11/6/08, Foo JH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Foo JH [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: what is your programming language on freebsd? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thursday, November 6, 2008, 11:10 AM Hi there, Earlier I was asking for some help getting XSP/ mod_mono on FreeBSD. I may be asking in the wrong mailing list, but my impression is that mono on FreeBSD is generally not a popular idea. I am not sure what leads you to believe that. Mono in general isn't as popular as, say, GNU's compiler collection. That said, it runs just fine on FreeBSD. There are motivated folks working to get more ports added, such as for monodevelop. There's a google group for this, though, it's called bsd-sharp. You may want to try there if you have problems related to Mono on FreeBSD and there aren't any helpful answers forthcoming on the seemingly-appropriate freebsd.org list. To pose my questions to the developers in the FreeBSD community: 1. What programming language(s) do you deploy on FreeBSD? I've worked with C, Perl, C# (mono), and Ruby. There are very few programming languages that you can't use to write code that is intended to run on FreeBSD. Most of these are anachronistic languages that no longer serve a useful purpose on any reasonably modern system, having been defunct for 20 or more years. 2. Is FreeBSD more optimised in performance for any particular language? No more than any other OS. Some languages may be better optimized than others, but you can't really optimize an OS to a language. 3. Is FreeBSD even a popular choice as a development platform, or is it better suited as a special-purpose OS (eg. mail server, DNS server)? FreeBSD is a fine development platform. In fact, it offers some things that developers like that other systems don't have. kqueue is very nice, and there are also little things such as the reallocf() function that are helpful as well. - mdh ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: recommendation word processer for xfce
OpenOffice.org 3. There's a port. - mdh --- On Thu, 11/6/08, FBSD1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FBSD1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: recommendation word processer for xfce To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ORG freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thursday, November 6, 2008, 8:40 PM Looking for word processer that runs on xfce and can output document in ms/word format. Thanks for your help. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unable to mount / in read - write mode
--- On Tue, 11/4/08, Popof Popof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Popof Popof [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Unable to mount / in read - write mode To: FreeBSD Questions freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tuesday, November 4, 2008, 1:57 PM Hi, I recently tried to update my FreeBSD 6.0 to FreeBSD 7.0. I don't know where but I made a mistake and I am always booting on the 6.0 kernel. The problem is that I have an error during boot process: mount option rw is unknown mount: /dev/ad0s2a : Invalid argument Mounting root filesystem rw failed, startup aborted Boot interrupted Its seems that tools have correctly upgraded (man mount let me see that I use the FreeBSD 7 version of mount) but not the kernel. Does someone has an idea to allow me to use my filesystem in read write mode ? This seems to be a problem with the mount command. Why do you feel the kernel may be at fault? If the kernel can get to mount, then it has obviously already mounted / (though possibly in read-only mode, which is something you should let us know...) There is also not necessarily a corrolation between a man page and the actual binary. Check the binary's modification time and such for better detail here. Beyond that, try running the mount command manually from the command line after booting from a CD or in single-user mode, if single-user mode works. - mdh ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is KDE4 usable on FreeBSD?
--- On Mon, 11/3/08, Mark Moellering [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Mark Moellering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Is KDE4 usable on FreeBSD? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Monday, November 3, 2008, 12:08 PM The other problems I had dealt with thrid-party programs. There is no (at least as of a few months ago) K3B for KDE-4 and no FreeBSD port of Ktorrent for KDE-4. I tried the linux port but had lots of problems. Also, to start you need to give an explicit path, something like /usr/local/kde-4/bin/startkde in the .xinitrc file. (at least I could never get anything else to work) I ultimately changed back to the 3.5.9(?) version from packages. I am using an intel quad core running amd64 FreeBSD 7.0 Release The standard ports for ktorrent and k3b work just fine. They use the KDE3 libraries, but there's nothing to stop them from running great under a KDE4 desktop. I use them both regularly with KDE4 as my desktop. In order for them to use the KDE4 libraries, the authors of those applications will have to come up with new versions for KDE4. That has nothing to do with FreeBSD. I also use a lot of GTK based applications as well, and these run on a KDE desktop as well. The X UI library used by an application does not matter to the desktop environment/wm application except that you may get a little more integration given certain combinations in terms of them pulling theming data from the same sources, etc. - mdh ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Java and FreeBSD
--- On Mon, 11/3/08, Spiros Papadopoulos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Spiros Papadopoulos [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Java and FreeBSD To: freebsd mailing list freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Monday, November 3, 2008, 1:26 PM Hi, It is now more than eight months that i am not able to use FreeBSD. FreeBSD version 6.1 was the last. Back then trying to work with Eclipse and java on FreeBSD was quite tricky. Can anyone please tell me what the current status is? For example can i use ports to install everything and start working with Eclipse straight away...? Or is Linux a better option? What versions of FreeBSD and Eclipse would you recommend? Please feel free to provide with as much information as you want. My advice is to install the following ports in the following order: java/jdk16 java/eclipse-devel eclipse-devel worked much better for me than did java/eclipse. I also had trouble without getting jdk16 installed first. It's been a while now, so I'm not exactly sure what all, but I think if you install those ports in that order, Eclipse will work for you. You may also want to make a symlink from /usr/local/eclipse to /usr/local/eclipse-devel - this allows the Eclipse plugin ports to install properly. Without it, they will not. I've got several (Perl, Ruby, and a couple of others) installed from ports against eclipse-devel and they work fine once that symlink is in place. - mdh ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD 7.1 - Status
--- On Sun, 11/2/08, David Naylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: David Naylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FreeBSD 7.1 - Status To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 2:47 AM Hi, According to the Release Schedule for FreeBSD 7.1 it is a few months behind. I know that FreeBSD 7.1 will not be released until it is working properly, and bug free however I am wondering what the hold ups are. If someone could take the time to answer me I would appreciate it. Regards David Generally speaking, the easiest way to find out when a release is really likely to get out the door is probably to check the GNATS system for major bugs and follow the goings-on over on the stable, hackers, and other development-oriented mailing lists. There hasn't been an RC for 7 yet, so it still has a ways to go. 6.4-R will probably be out the door in a matter of weeks, as RC2 just got tagged a couple of days ago. Hint: look for kensmith commits to newvers.sh for a much quicker heads-up on activity than you'll get from the schedule on the website. ;) - mdh ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is KDE4 usable on FreeBSD?
--- On Sat, 11/1/08, Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Is KDE4 usable on FreeBSD? To: Yuri [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 11:34 AM I tried using it but Desktop view window that was initially created when I first launched kde4 doesn't appear with the second launch. I believe KDE4 isn't ready yet. Anyone can use it without major annoyances? the question should be Is KDE usable at all on any OS? the answer is no, it's crappy imitation of windoze. If someone needs windoze like soft, just buy windows vista. For someone who need unix, FreeBSD is a good choice. I rather like KDE4. I don't find that it's like Windows at all, given that Windows is an operating system and KDE4 is a development framework, application suite, and window manager. There're hefty differences there, not the least of which being that KDE4 isn't an operating system kernel. In general, I've found it to be well-maintained (some of the window managers I've used in the past went defunct when the 1-2 developers actively working on them got bored or whatever), nicely designed, attractive appearance-wise, and easy to configure. Let's face it, spending a whole bunch of hours over the course of a few weeks writing a perfect afterstep config was really cool when I was a young'un and didn't have a life to worry about, but nowadays I just want to get on with what needs doing. KDE allows me to accomplish just that, efficiently, and without leaving me unable to toggle/modify/configure certain things as GNOME does. - mdh ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is KDE4 usable on FreeBSD?
way. The other turned out to be an nvidia binary driver bug which is not in any way specific to KDE or even FreeBSD (Linux Compiz users seem to be the largest afflicted community). At the end of the day, when you find bugs in closed-source software, you call the vendor and file a ticket. With open-source software, since you aren't paying anything, you ought to deal with bugs through the community. Bug trackers for KDE exist. So do mailing lists. There's a community there with people - usually unpaid volunteers - who are willing to help debug the software, just as commercial software vendors have paid support staff for such issues. If you don't like free UNIX-like systems, you can buy a nice Sun box and get Solaris support from Sun. In fact, Sun's support has been really good in my vast experience, so I'd even go so far as to recommend this if what you want is that level of support. Even Sun releases bugs sometimes though. This is why they, like those of us in the open-source world, release patches. This whole argument just strikes me as a lot of meaningless complaining in lieu of actually productively trying to identify and fix bugs. - mdh ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD on Eeepc 1000h
--- On Sat, 11/1/08, Sven Aluoor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Sven Aluoor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FreeBSD on Eeepc 1000h To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 6:43 PM Hi folks I tried netinstall of stable and current. Both versions of the installer dont have driver for my NIC. How to get ethernet working? lscpi on Debian Lenny: 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Attansic Technology Corp. L1 Gigabit Ethernet Adapter (rev b0) kind regards Sven If I recall correctly, the eeepc 1000H has an Attansic L1E, not an L1, ethernet controller chipset. FreeBSD RELENG_7 has support for the L1 and the L2, but I've heard that the L1E doesn't work yet. You should do some searching for a driver, it's possible one of our fine developers is looking for helping testing one they're working on. ;) - mdh ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cannot login to root account on FreeBSD 7.0
--- On Fri, 10/31/08, Pramod Dematagoda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Pramod Dematagoda [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cannot login to root account on FreeBSD 7.0 To: Jeremy Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Friday, October 31, 2008, 10:53 AM On Fri, 2008-10-31 at 07:09 -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 06:59:04PM +0530, Pramod Dematagoda wrote: But now I've faced a big problem, I can no longer seem to login to the root account where whenever I supply the proper credentials to the login screen, I always get thrown back to the login screen. This started happening after I installed D-bus and HAL through the FreeBSD ports which were built upon Xorg 1.5.1 which I had built myself previously, so I am wondering if something I did may have caused the problem. Reboot the machine and at the FreeBSD beastie/loader menu, hit 4 to boot into single-user mode. Once there, do: # mount -a # mount -o rw -u / # passwd root And change the password. reboot and you should be good to go. Hey Jeremy, Thanks for looking into the problem, but unfortunately your solution did not work, I changed the root password to something else, however I still cannot login to root once I boot FreeBSD normally. Regards, Pramod Dematagoda Try going through those steps again (single user mode, the mount commands) and then looking at your system logs in /var/log. The logs should have failed authentication messages that explain what's going wrong. - mdh ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cannot login to root account on FreeBSD 7.0
--- On Fri, 10/31/08, Pramod Dematagoda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Pramod Dematagoda [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cannot login to root account on FreeBSD 7.0 To: Mel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: FreeBSD ML freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Friday, October 31, 2008, 11:09 AM On Fri, 2008-10-31 at 16:00 +0100, Mel wrote: On Friday 31 October 2008 15:53:23 Pramod Dematagoda wrote: On Fri, 2008-10-31 at 07:09 -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 06:59:04PM +0530, Pramod Dematagoda wrote: But now I've faced a big problem, I can no longer seem to login to the root account where whenever I supply the proper credentials to the login screen, I always get thrown back to the login screen. This started happening after I installed D-bus and HAL through the FreeBSD ports which were built upon Xorg 1.5.1 which I had built myself previously, so I am wondering if something I did may have caused the problem. Reboot the machine and at the FreeBSD beastie/loader menu, hit 4 to boot into single-user mode. Once there, do: # mount -a # mount -o rw -u / # passwd root And change the password. reboot and you should be good to go. Hey Jeremy, Thanks for looking into the problem, but unfortunately your solution did not work, I changed the root password to something else, however I still cannot login to root once I boot FreeBSD normally. There should be in indication in /var/log/messages or /var/log/auth.log. I checked /var/log/messages, and I found something interesting, it seems that csh exits with signal 11(core dumped) right after a root login, there is nothing out of the ordinary in auth.log. But now what do I do to fix the problem, change the shell? Yeowzers. Change it to /bin/sh for now. Once you're back up, it'd be interesting to debug this. Would you like to? - mdh ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cannot login to root account on FreeBSD 7.0
--- On Fri, 10/31/08, Pramod Dematagoda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Pramod Dematagoda [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cannot login to root account on FreeBSD 7.0 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: FreeBSD ML freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Friday, October 31, 2008, 12:00 PM On Fri, 2008-10-31 at 08:19 -0700, mdh wrote: --- On Fri, 10/31/08, Pramod Dematagoda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Pramod Dematagoda [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cannot login to root account on FreeBSD 7.0 To: Mel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: FreeBSD ML freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Friday, October 31, 2008, 11:09 AM On Fri, 2008-10-31 at 16:00 +0100, Mel wrote: On Friday 31 October 2008 15:53:23 Pramod Dematagoda wrote: On Fri, 2008-10-31 at 07:09 -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 06:59:04PM +0530, Pramod Dematagoda wrote: But now I've faced a big problem, I can no longer seem to login to the root account where whenever I supply the proper credentials to the login screen, I always get thrown back to the login screen. This started happening after I installed D-bus and HAL through the FreeBSD ports which were built upon Xorg 1.5.1 which I had built myself previously, so I am wondering if something I did may have caused the problem. Reboot the machine and at the FreeBSD beastie/loader menu, hit 4 to boot into single-user mode. Once there, do: # mount -a # mount -o rw -u / # passwd root And change the password. reboot and you should be good to go. Hey Jeremy, Thanks for looking into the problem, but unfortunately your solution did not work, I changed the root password to something else, however I still cannot login to root once I boot FreeBSD normally. There should be in indication in /var/log/messages or /var/log/auth.log. I checked /var/log/messages, and I found something interesting, it seems that csh exits with signal 11(core dumped) right after a root login, there is nothing out of the ordinary in auth.log. But now what do I do to fix the problem, change the shell? Yeowzers. Change it to /bin/sh for now. Once you're back up, it'd be interesting to debug this. Would you like to? - mdh I found something a bit more interesting, csh crashes regardless of the user account to which it is used for, so something is wrong with csh itself and not the root account. Regards, Pramod Dematagoda First, please post the output of `uname -a`. It'd be useful to know when you grabbed sources last, if you've built your own world at all, as well. This information is necessary before we continue. Also please post the output from the commands `ls -l /bin/csh` and `md5 /bin/csh`. While in sh, if you type /bin/csh to run csh, does it crash, or does it seem proper? If it seems proper, try and few commands and see if it still does. If it crashes, let's try some debugging. You should have a csh.core file, probably in /root. Run the command `gdb /bin/csh /root/csh.core` (replacing /root/csh.core to whatever path csh.core is in, if it's not in /root), and post the output to this list along with everything else I've asked for. Do that now. If that still doesn't work, I'm going to tell you to... Build it for debugging. cd to the directory /usr/src/bin/csh, and run the following commands: `CFLAGS='-ggdb' make`, then run `make install`. Once that's done, try /bin/csh again and if it crashes again, run `gdb /bin/csh` - when it crashes this time If you do not have a directory called /usr/src/bin/csh, you'll need to cvsup your src. Check through /usr/share/examples/cvsup/stable-supfile and the handbook section on updating sources via cvsup. Once that's done, go back and run the commands in the following paragraph. Clearly, something is very wrong here. Note to others: -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 4895 Mar 19 2006 /usr/src/bin/csh/Makefile -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 6882 May 16 2007 /usr/src/bin/csh/config.h -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 2964 May 16 2007 /usr/src/bin/csh/config_p.h -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 28287 Apr 6 2004 /usr/src/bin/csh/host.defs -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1873 Feb 19 2006 /usr/src/bin/csh/iconv.h -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 2391 Feb 19 2006 /usr/src/bin/csh/iconv_stub.c Those are the file modification times for the csh sources, so even if he's running an older -RELEASE there shouldn't be any incompatibility issues with the latest source tree. - mdh ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cannot login to root account on FreeBSD 7.0
Right - sorry, my bad on that one. But do substitute -ggdb for your -g, as that'll give us GDB-specific debugging symbols. - mdh --- On Fri, 10/31/08, Mel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Build it for debugging. cd to the directory /usr/src/bin/csh, and run the following commands: `CFLAGS='-ggdb' make`, then run `make install`. No, we don't do that. We run: make DEBUG_FLAGS=-g clean all install because: a) setting CFLAGS omits CFLAGS from the bsd build system and that's not advised b) setting DEBUG_FLAGS disables strip on install (strip strips the debug symbols) -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: improvement idea of man page of strfile
--- On Thu, 10/30/08, Zhang Weiwu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Zhang Weiwu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: improvement idea of man page of strfile To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Thursday, October 30, 2008, 10:47 AM Original text: OTHER USES What can you do with this besides printing sarcastic and obscene mes- sages to the screens of lusers at login or logout? There are some other possibilities. 1 Include strfile.h into a news reading/posting program, to gener- ate random signatures. Tin(1) does something similar, in a much more complex manner. 2 Include it in a game. While strfile doesn't support 'fields' or 'records', there's no reason that the text strings can't be con- sistent: first line, a die roll; second line, a score; third and subsequent lines, a text message. 3 Use it to store your address book. Hell, some of the guys I know would be as well off using it to decide who to call on Fri- day nights (and for some, it wouldn't matter whether there were phone numbers in it or not). 4 Use it in 'lottery' situations. If you're an ISP, write a script to store login names and GECOS from /etc/passwd in str- file format, write another to send 'congratulations, you've won' to the lucky login selected. The prize might be a month's free service, or if you're AOL, a month free on a real service provider. Erm, I don't see this text in strfile(8) on RELENG_7 which is reasonably recent. Where did you get your man page from? - mdh ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Firewalls in FreeBSD?
--- On Wed, 10/29/08, Jeremy Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jeremy Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Firewalls in FreeBSD? To: Terry Sposato [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Polytropon [EMAIL PROTECTED], Freebsd questions freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wednesday, October 29, 2008, 11:25 PM On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 01:36:58PM +1100, Terry Sposato wrote: It is most likely caused by your ruleset not being stateful. If packets are going out certain sessions and your firewall isn't then allowing back in you would see the issue you are seeing. I am not sure how this is accomplished via ipfw as I use pf but there would be a tonne of documentation out there on how to make your rules stateful. Are you sure about that? Read his statement once more: For example, I load up a client (game) and it connects out on XYZ port. The server will send data back on ABC. I assume based on this, the following is happening: - 192.168.x.x:a sends packet to gameserver:xyz - NAT gateway translates packet (where natgw is a public WAN IP) 192.168.x.x:a -- natgw:b -- gameserver:xyz - gameserver sees packet to port xyz, and initiates new connection to natgw:abc - NAT gateway drops packet destined to WAN IP port abc, because the gameserver:abc connection is *new*, and does not relate to the previous NAT'd gameserver:xyz connection. If this is **truly** how the protocol works (the OP will need to be absolutely 100% positive of that fact; I recommend he reconfirm how it works), then the only solution is to set up a port forward on the NAT gateway for port abc to point to 192.168.x.x. This also means that only one computer on the LAN will be capable of playing this game. Not much one can do about that, other than write the authors of the game and explain that their protocol is absolutely disgusting. Does the game support IPv6? This may be a work-around for you, since you can get a relatively large chunk of IPs for free via any one of a number of tunnel brokers. If possible, ask your IP provider if they provide native IPv6 transport first. A few do, in North America and Europe, and a surprising lot do in Asia, especially Japan and South Korea. If you're on a North American consumer ISP, chances are a tunnel broker is your only option for v6 connectivity, however. If the game doesn't support IPv6, however, then you are likely stuck with playing with port forwarding from the public routable address, however. It stinks, so feel free to lobby your ISP, the game's designers, and any other involved parties, about supporting IPv6 connectivity. In essence, a problem like the one Mr. Chadwick is eluding to is one of the primary motivating forces behind the adoption of IPv6 to begin with. - mdh ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ports missing their packages.
--- On Wed, 10/29/08, FBSD1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FBSD1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ports missing their packages. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ORG freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, October 29, 2008, 4:09 AM It's my understanding that a port maintainer has to install the port for real any time a change is made to the port make files or a update to the source of the software to test and verify the changes work as wanted. Creating the package after this is just one command and a ftp upload to the package server. Why are maintainers being given approval to apply their changes without creating the required package? This is just lax management on the part of the people who do the authorizing of the changes. Missing packages increases user frustration level and makes FreeBSD look like its being mis-managed. Very few port maintainers have access to simply upload a package to the ftp servers. This just isn't how the system works. During the process of checking to ensure that a port was built or updated sanely, we do create a package, just to ensure that that make target works as expected. Port maintainers are not the ones responsible for the entire system, only for maintaining a few files which folks get in the ports tree. An alternate solution to this problem is to allow users to upload missing packages to the package server direct or to a staging ftp server so port/pkg management staff can review first and them populate the production package server. Yeah, that's sane. Nobody will ever just upload something that demands to be run as root, then changes the root password, enables telnet, and hops on IRC to notify the person who uploaded it, or something. The system does work. It just doesn't provide instant gratification. If you really need things to happen in real-time, email the FreeBSD Foundation and find out how much cash it'd take for additional hardware to make that a reality, then send them that much cash. - mdh ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SUN Fire V 250
--- On Mon, 10/27/08, Arek Czereszewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Arek Czereszewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: SUN Fire V 250 To: Liste FreeBSD freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Monday, October 27, 2008, 9:21 AM Hi, On next week I will get SUN Fire v250 machine. I thinking about installation FreeBSD on this machine. Have someone experience with FreeBSD on this machine? I would advise signing up for the sparc64 mailing list. I haven't worked with FreeBSD on a V250 myself, nor am I familiar with the exact components in it, so I can't say offhand. Someone on the sparc64 list probably can though. - mdh ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE (GENERIC) firefox3 /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgio-2.0
--- On Sun, 10/26/08, David Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: David Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE (GENERIC) firefox3 /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgio-2.0 To: Freebsd-Questions freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sunday, October 26, 2008, 2:10 PM freebsd-questions: If I understand the above, the linker is unable to find the file gio-2.0. STFW I found something similar: The answer is to upgrade your devel/glib20 port to the latest version, then try to install or upgrade libgiofam, then install the other software. - mdh ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD-7.1, BETA2 or PRERELEASE
--- On Fri, 10/24/08, Jeremy Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jeremy Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FreeBSD-7.1, BETA2 or PRERELEASE To: Masoom Shaikh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Friday, October 24, 2008, 6:26 AM On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 03:07:32PM +0530, Masoom Shaikh wrote: Hi folks, y'day I csuped the src and built installed the kernel from RELENG_7 I was expecting FreeBSD-BETA2 in output of `uname -a` it is still -PRERELEASE, is it by decision or I have to change something ? I greped /usr/src for PRERELEASE but cud not locate it. I guess release engineering team does that. comments ? This question keeps coming up. http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2008-October/184992.html RELENG_7 == PRERELEASE. There is no BETA2 tag to follow. No one is sure at this point where the BETA2 string has come from (meaning why it was idealised or why it's being used). I'm of the belief that it's something Ken is hand-hacking in newvers.sh before building + making ISO releases and putting them up on the mirrors. And I am also of the opinion that this should stop, and we should simply name the releases PRERELEASE-MMDD to signify the build date. It seems likely. I've only ever seen -PRERELEASE and -STABLE, when tracking RELENG_[0-9] branch. On the other hand, I have seen -RELEASE, -BETA, -RC, etc, when installing from media. Perhaps differentiating these isn't a bad idea, however, when it comes to uname output in PR's, despite the queries it generates over here. A media install can always be safely assumed to be a given set of code, while if someone is tracking a branch via cvsup, the build time would show up in uname output, however the user may still need to be queried for rcsid's or asked to cvsup to the latest if the issue is considered to possibly be a base system and/or kernel code issue. It's probably worth discussion and consideration, though. I don't know if/how useful the utility of the current naming conventions are to folks trying to solve potential code bug PRs. - mdh ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE installing php-imap
--- On Fri, 10/24/08, Grant Peel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Grant Peel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE installing php-imap To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Friday, October 24, 2008, 9:31 AM Hi all, I have a script that required php-imap extension installed but I keep running into a 2 snags when 'making' the port (mail/php-imap)... First, I have to use the -DFORCE_PKG_REGISTER so openssl_overwtite_base won't kill the make, which seems to work, Hmmm. This sounds indicative of a more serious problem than just something you can work around quickly. I'm not at all familiar with this port though. and, most importantly, when the mail/imap-php port tried to actually do the build of the imap part, it says it can't find (OpenSSLs) 'evp.h' file. I assume it is just failing on the first file it can't find. That is very odd. cpp(1) looks in /usr/include by default, without any -I flags specified. As you state below that you have evp.h in /usr/include/openssl/evp.h, I don't see why this would happen. So, I guess the question is, when making the mail/imap-php port, is there a way to pass the path for the OpenSSL libraries? My libs appear to be in two places: server# locate evp.h /usr/include/openssl/evp.h /usr/src/crypto/openssl/crypto/evp/evp.h If I can pass the path, I assume I should use the /usr/include dir, but how? You'd use a make command such as the following, in the port dir: make CFLAGS='-I/usr/include' install clean That shouldn't be necessary, though, for reasons stated above. make -D--with-openssl=/usr/include/openssl ??? No. If you wanted to add configure args, you'd use CONFIGURE_ARGS in a similar manner to how my previous example used CFLAGS. TIA, -Grant This is a strange situation. Did your web search for similar issues turn up anything? Is anyone else experiencing this? If so, was there a PR on it? If not, you may want to contact the port maintainer and see if they have any assistance, or file a PR if there is not one already. Also, please post a reply to the list with your `uname -a` output. - mdh ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: root | su
--- On Fri, 10/24/08, Manolis Kiagias [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Manolis Kiagias [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: root | su To: Jos Chrispijn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: FreeBSD Questions freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Friday, October 24, 2008, 2:25 PM Jos Chrispijn wrote: Is there a way of stopping root from su'ing to another user? Jos Chrispijn Root is supposed to be the almighty god on your machine (i.e. you...). No point trying to limit the abilities of root (especially if physical access is also provided). And seriously, root is a role not a person. If you find yourself trying to limit root's capabilities, you've probably surrendered the root password to the wrong person. If you need to give someone limited root access to a machine, just use security/sudo instead (with a carefully crafted sudoers file). That's one option. Another is to implement jails, or virtualization via something like qemu. Since the person asking didn't give any details of what he wants to do, it's hard to say, but your point is correct regardless. - mdh ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: root | su
--- On Fri, 10/24/08, Jos Chrispijn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jos Chrispijn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: root | su To: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Friday, October 24, 2008, 4:45 PM Since the person asking didn't give any details of what he wants to do, it's hard to say, but your point is correct regardless. The idea behind my question is this: I am responsible for a server on which an(other) idiot keeps loggin in as user root, allthough he has his own user account and is part of the wheel group. To prevent this nub to change any other user account in God mode, I am searching for a solutions on this. Disable direct access via whatever remote access method you use as root. Thus the other individual will have to login as themself, and su to root. If you do not wish them to su to root, change the root password. - mdh ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Locked out of Root
--- On Thu, 10/23/08, Lowell Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Lowell Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Locked out of Root To: APseudoUtopia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thursday, October 23, 2008, 7:44 AM APseudoUtopia [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have one user (other than root and the other system users) on my box, and that user is _NOT_ in the wheel group. I also have root logins disabled via SSH. This is a remote server and all I have is SSH access. Is there any way that I can gain root? I know the root password and everything, but I just can't get to it. The user is not in the wheel group, and root login is disabled in SSH. Thanks for any help/advice. You'll need to reboot in single-user mode. E.g., http://be-well.ilk.org/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/admin.html#SU-WHEEL-GROUP If he can get to the system console, why would he need to bother booting to single user mode? He said he has the root password. He should just be able to login normally, if he can get to the system console. - mdh ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Locked out of Root
He said his unprivileged user isn't in the wheel group. To answer the initial question, you'll need to login to the system on the local console. You cannot get root access via the network unless you're running another remote access service besides ssh which will allow you to login as root directly. - mdh --- On Wed, 10/22/08, Benjamin Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Benjamin Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Locked out of Root To: APseudoUtopia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wednesday, October 22, 2008, 11:25 PM Login as the unprivileged user and run: $ su See su(1). ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE and yahoo IM
--- On Sun, 10/19/08, FBSD1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FBSD1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: KDE and yahoo IM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ORG freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sunday, October 19, 2008, 8:00 AM Does anyone have yahoo instant messenger working on KDE desktop?? My suggestion would be to use Kopete or Pidgin. These are KDE-based and Gtk+ based, respectively, instant messaging clients. AFAIK, the official yahoo messenger client for FreeBSD has not been maintained for quite some while. - mdh __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Disable CTRL-ALT-DEL
--- On Sat, 10/18/08, Jeremy Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jeremy Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Disable CTRL-ALT-DEL To: Manolis Kiagias [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Olivier Nicole [EMAIL PROTECTED], freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Peter Boosten [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, October 18, 2008, 4:10 AM It seems you are right. Just checked on 6.3 and 7.0 and it does not exist. It does exist in 6.2, however. Hmm... # sysctl hw.syscons.kbd_reboot=0 hw.syscons.kbd_reboot: 1 - 0 # sysctl hw.syscons.kbd_reboot=1 hw.syscons.kbd_reboot: 0 - 1 # uname -a FreeBSD icarus.home.lan 7.1-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE #0: Thu Oct 2 03:04:20 PDT 2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/PDSMI_PLUS_RELENG_7_amd64 amd64 It's definitly there in RELENG_7 as of this moment (just cvsup'd): /usr/src/sys/dev/syscons/syscons.c:SYSCTL_INT(_hw_syscons, OID_AUTO, kbd_reboot, CTLFLAG_RW|CTLFLAG_SECURE, enable_reboot, - mdh __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problem with www/mod_cband
--- On Fri, 10/17/08, Jeremy Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jeremy Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Problem with www/mod_cband To: David Karapetyan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, October 17, 2008, 1:53 PM On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 12:57:41PM -0400, David Karapetyan wrote: FreeBSD office19.resnet.nd.edu 7.0-RELEASE-p5 FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE-p5 #0: Wed Oct 1 10:10:12 UTC 2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 Hello everyone. Every time I try to use the mod_cband module in my apache22 webserver, apache segfaults upon restart. Things work fine when I disable the module from httpd.conf. Is this module broken, and if so, what comparable alternatives are there? Be aware that mod_cband has quite a horrible bug. This is a Debian bug report, but the same problem applies to FreeBSD. Be sure to read the entire bug, not just the original report. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=418645 Regarding alternatives: there aren't. Bandwidth limiting is a long-standing feature of Apache that's missing, which is a huge disappointment. The best solution I've found on FreeBSD is to use pf(4) with ALTQ, and give each VirtualHost its own IP address, then rate-limit the IP address using pf(4). Yes, I realise this is impractical for sites which have many vhosts and use name-based virtualhosts. Welcome to my world... IMHO, that solution is considerably sexier than what mod_cband claims to do (having read only pkg-descr). It seems possible, however, that mod_cband's functionality could be replicated by a simple script that watches the access log files and makes an update to a .htaccess file for the virtualhost when the virtualhost in question exceeds a given bandwidth limit which would be configured in the script. Think `tail -f`. Functionality is handled outside of apache so no danger of crashes. Just create the .htaccess in such a way that the end-user can't delete/modify it, and have it do a Redirect. For robustness' sake, move any existing .htaccess file to .htaccess.X and move it back when the virtualhost is back in compliance or paid up or whatever. - mdh __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: back to kde3
--- On Fri, 10/17/08, Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: back to kde3 To: FreeBSD Mailing List freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Friday, October 17, 2008, 5:39 PM People, I spent the past several days trying to insure that everythinge kde4 was properly set to run upon reboot. But upon rebooting just now, I find myself back in kde3. i Yanked the startup from /etc/ttys, so *must* have hit the old kdm[3] from root. If you installed from ports, change the line in /etc/ttys from /usr/local/bin/kdm to /usr/local/kde4/bin/kdm The KDE4 stuff is all installed under /usr/local/kde4 in order to not conflict with KDE3 installs. - mdh __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: new install sunfire v100
--- On Wed, 10/15/08, Davenport, Steve M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Davenport, Steve M [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: new install sunfire v100 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 1:53 PM I'm installing 7.0-RELEASE on a Sun Sunfire v100 server. I was able to boot the cd, and install through cd one. There is no framebuffer on the v100 (vt100 serial console interface only) so the install would not proceed past the first disk. I want to use this system as a nameserver and was able to download Bind 9.3.5-P2, compile, and run. My questions are: 1) Can I manually complete the install process for items on CDs 23? 2) In the /var/log/messages I see: Oct 9 19:50:53 steve3 kernel: acd0: CDRW CD-224E/P.9A at ata3-slave PIO4 Oct 9 19:50:53 steve3 kernel: acd0: FAILURE - READ_BIG MEDIUM ERROR asc=0x11 as cq=0x00 Oct 9 19:50:53 steve3 kernel: GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider acd0 is iso9660/Fr eeBSD_Install. Oct 9 19:50:53 steve3 kernel: acd0: FAILURE - READ_BIG MEDIUM ERROR asc=0x11 as cq=0x00 What is causing these cd errors? Thanks for your assistance! Hi Steve, With regards to the install, the second and third CDs only include packages. You can just as easily run `sysinstall` from the command line while logged in as root and install additional packages from an HTTP or FTP server over the net, or use the CDs if they work alright. Above and beyond that, you can also just (I prefer this, myself) build the software you want from ports and skip binary packages entirely for the most part. If your CD drive is functioning as you expect, those syslog errors can probably be safely ignored. If the issue is in fact causing problems with reading CDs, you can perform your install of the additional packages via the net, and perhaps we can deal with the CD issue - unfortunately, I've never used a non-SCSI SPARC64 box with FreeBSD, so I don't know if I'll personally be able to help you too much there, but surely some folks here or on the sparc64 list would. As an aside, you may want to consider signing up for the FreeBSD sparc64 mailing list. - mdh ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Interrupt storm detected on irq10:; throttling interrupt source
--- On Wed, 10/15/08, nazir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: nazir [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Interrupt storm detected on irq10:; throttling interrupt source To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 8:44 PM Hi, I'm getting these on my HP-DL165 AMD Quad Qore interrupt storm detected on irq10:; throttling interrupt source What is on IRQ 10? You can determine this via the command: `dmesg |grep irq` then look for the line for IRQ 10 which specifies what device is there. It could be a driver problem, or it could be that the hardware there is bunk. - mdh ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to get my Dad's Win2k system to access internet through my FreeBSD 6.2 system
--- On Thu, 10/16/08, Da Rock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Da Rock [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: How to get my Dad's Win2k system to access internet through my FreeBSD 6.2 system To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thursday, October 16, 2008, 1:04 AM grin Actually I'm not sure... I'm just an innocent bystander :) Throughout the thread there was mention of enabling nat in the rc.conf, so whichever that was... My consideration was just in general. Someone mentioned enabling nat, another said don't double nat, so I thought routed would be better. But it seems routed is not the way to go, but to keep gateway_enable: question remains as to whether to use nat or not (I suppose in any form; but if you can enlighten me with regard if one form of nat is better than another especially in the case of double nat then I'd appreciate the information). The main reason I'm bring up this issue is to clarify (and possibly the OP will then get a better picture too) of precisely how to accomplish the result required. And maybe increase my knowledge of the subject too :) thats always a good thing. Essentially, you need three things to accomplish nat'ing via the way I'm going to describe. There're several ways to do it, but I'll only cover one here, because to describe others, I'd need to go look up docs, which you're more than welcome to do for yourself if you don't like the way I'm going to touch on. First, you need gateway_enable set to yes in /etc/rc.conf. This is universally true regardless of which method you use for nat'ing. What this does is instruct the kernel that it has multiple interfaces, and that it must pass packets across them, acting as a router. This has nothing to do with various route discovery protocols, it only sets a sysctl which tells the kernel to route packets across multiple interfaces. The default behavior is for the kernel not to do so. Second, you'll need some way for your NAT to get packets. In some cases, the NAT method is built into the way that it gets packets. With the way I'm discussing here, it's not. In this case, we'll use `ipfw`. You'll need a kernel that supports ipfw for this to work, obviously. The rule you'll need should look something like this: divert 8668 ip4 from any to any via sis0 Where sis0 is your EXTERNAL network interface (ie, the one facing your cable modem, modem, or whatever else.) The command to add this should look something like: `ipfw add rule number divert 8668 ip4 from any to any via interface` where rule number is the rule number you'll use (it should be a low one!) and interface is your external-facing network interface device. Third, you'll need natd itself. natd can be enabled via - you guessed it - the rc.conf variable natd_enable. That's not all, though. You'll also need to (in rc.conf) set natd_interface to the interface you specified in the firewall rule, and you'll almost certainly want to set natd_flags to -u. So all in all, you'll need the ipfw rule, ipfw enabled in your kernel, and the following lines in rc.conf: gateway_enable=YES natd_program=/sbin/natd natd_enable=YES natd_interface=sis0 natd_flags=-u You may also need to run dhclient or somesuch to get an address from your ISP, but that's a whole other story. Enjoy. - mdh ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: An endian error
--- On Tue, 10/14/08, Jeremy Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jeremy Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: An endian error To: Unga [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tuesday, October 14, 2008, 8:50 AM On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 05:00:26AM -0700, Unga wrote: Hi all I'm trying to compile RELENG_7 kernel on i386. The make buildkernel develops an endian related error: I cannot reproduce this error on any of our i386 boxes or our amd64 boxes. Is this kernel being built with the new gcc you've been messing around with in other threads? I have to ask that question, for obvious reasons. I wonder if that code is right - normally an endian check on FreeBSD entails comparing BYTE_ORDER with _BIG_ENDIAN and/or _LITTLE_ENDIAN to determine which is the case, which would seemingly imply that it is OK to have both of those defined. - mdh ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems with portupgrade or db
--- On Tue, 10/14/08, Marco Beishuizen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Marco Beishuizen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Problems with portupgrade or db To: FreeBSD-Questions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, October 14, 2008, 8:08 AM Hi, In an attempt to upgrade db42 to db47 I seem to have broken some things. If I try to portupgrade anything I get: ... #portupgrade -a ** Makefile possibly broken: www/gnome-user-share: /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object libdb-4.2.so.2 not found, required by libaprutil-1.so.3 [: -le: argument expected gnome-user-share-0.31_2 : Your apache does not support DSO modules /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:1468:in `get_pkgname': Makefile broken (MakefileBrokenError) from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:622:in `main' from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:613:in `each' from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:613:in `main' from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:588:in `catch' from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:588:in `main' from /usr/local/lib/ruby/1.8/optparse.rb:1303:in `call' from /usr/local/lib/ruby/1.8/optparse.rb:1303:in `parse_in_order' from /usr/local/lib/ruby/1.8/optparse.rb:1299:in `catch' ... 6 levels... from /usr/local/lib/ruby/1.8/optparse.rb:785:in `initialize' from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:229:in `new' from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:229:in `main' from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:2208 ... If I try to reinstall db42 (or anything else) I get the same error message. What can I do to make things work again? Thanks in advance, Marco Have you tried installing db42 from ports manually? ie: (cd /usr/ports/databases/db42 make deinstall make clean make install make clean) If that doesn't work, perhaps try installing the db42 pkg from the FreeBSD ftp servers? Personally, I try to stay away from portupgrade or anything else that comes around claiming to make something easier that's already easy enough. ;) - mdh ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Installation Hangs
Yes, you can remove the hard disk, put it in a different machine, install FreeBSD on it, then move the disk back. At that point, if you don't need a graphical console, then a serial console might be a good work-around option. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/serialconsole-setup.html for more info. - mdh ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: freebsd7 kde4 performance
--- On Sat, 10/11/08, Michal Kulczewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Michael, Unfortunetly I've been having the same difficulty with KDE4. I've tried using both the nv driver as well as nvidia. My hardware is intel core2 duo 1.8ghz, nvidia 8600 gs with 512 dedicated memory and 2gigs of system memory. I've tried using 7.0, 7.1 and 8.0(Current) with all malloc debugging features disabled as well as kernel debugging options turned off. I've also tried switching back to UFS filesystems from ZFS(root install) to no avail. In the end I ended up using kde3 due to endless headaches. I felt I'd share this in hopes someone has managed to get it to run reasonably well. Regards, Tom well, there is no much information available though. IMHO it's a pity that once fancy gui is available, freebsd users can not make use of it. I have to switch to gnome (somehow I don't like kde3). Cheers, Michal Michal, can you describe in more detail just what is performing poorly? Things like what effects, what actions you're taking, what your settings are that effect those actions, etc? I'm running KDE4.1.1 from ports on 7-STABLE and have no performance problems at all with an AthlonX2, 2gigs of memory, and a GeForce6200 card using nvidia binary drivers. One thing I have come up against was the nvidia black windows bug with OpenGL effects turned on, but turning them off doesn't signifigantly hinder my enjoyment of KDE4, or make it too much less sexy to be honest. The performance was also fine even with them turned on; it simply caused that bug to occur which made it less usable. Generally speaking, I've found GNOME to run with more performance issues despite less bells and whistles than KDE every time on any system where I've tried it. If you provide some more information, maybe I can direct you to some setting tweaks, etc, but as I said it's working just lovely for me (and this is with a ton of apps open, by the way - several seamonkey windows, a bunch of kpdf, eclipse, many many konsole tabs, xmms, ktorrent, and more. One thing I am curious of is if you're running i386 FreeBSD, or another architecture (amd64, ia64, etc?) Take care. - mdh ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: rsync or even scp questions....
--- On Sat, 10/11/08, Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On the Ubuntu computer I am /home/kline; on my main
computer,
my home is /usr/home/kline. The following sh script
worked
perfected when my home on tao [FBSD] was
/home/kline:
P
#!/bin/sh
PWD=`pwd`;
echo This directory is [${PWD}];
scp -qrp ${PWD}/* ethos:/${PWD}
###/usr/bin/scp -rqp -i /home/kline/.ssh/zeropasswd-id
${PWD}/* \ klin
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/${PWD}
Question #1: is there any /bin/sh method of getting rid of
the
/usr? I switch off between my two computers
especially when
get mucked up, as with my upgrade to kde4. (Otherwise, I
do
backups of ~kline as well as other critical directories.)
Is there a way of automatically using rsync rather that my
kwik-and-dirty /bin/shell script?
thanks, people,
gary
If what you wish to do is simply get rid of /usr in a string, you can use sed
like so:
varWithoutUsr=`echo ${varWithUsr} |sed -e 's/\/usr//'`
After running this, where $varWithUsr is the variable containing a string like
/usr/home/blah, the variable $varWithoutUsr will be equal to /home/blah. I
create simple scripts like this all the time to rename batches of files, for
example.
The easier way is probably just to not specify a dir to scp's remote path
though, since it defaults to the user's home directory.
- mdh
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Re: uptime 2 years!
--- On Thu, 10/9/08, Chad Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe you should put someone in charge of answering emails who aren't cocky and smug This is a public mailing list. No one is in charge of answering mails to it. When sending to -questions, you are emailing the community of people, most of whom are willing to help when they have time and knowledge. I still believe in FreeBSD and it's a great OS. It's the nix I started and learned with but I think your community is full of conceited, pompous asses, the reason I don't like to associate with IT people. I'd rather not give money to someone who has to insult me. No one on this list gets paid for helping others via it. If you want paid support with no risk of potentially being offended by someone, you can actually pay for support through any one of many companies, or just hire a consultant. If you go to a restaurant and you get a rude waiter, what do you do? I don't go back or give them a crap tip. You're under some whacky and wholly mistaken impression that anyone here is getting tips. We're here to help other users because that's how the community interoperates. Others help me, I in turn help others. If someone were rude to me or generally behaved poorly on the list, I may then be less inclined to answer a question they ask which I may know the answer to, or vice-versa. Take care, mdh ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: uptime 2 years!
--- On Thu, 10/9/08, Eitan Adler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Eitan Adler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: uptime 2 years! To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 8:41 PM Lowell Gilbert wrote: [snip] And in theory it should be possible to change time_t to unsigned, and get another two-thirds of a century out of it... However this would break binary compatibility with anything compiled before the change. -- GNU Key fingerptrint: 2E13 BC16 5F54 0FBD 62ED 42B6 B65F 24AB E9C2 CCD1 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: uptime 2 years!
--- On Thu, 10/9/08, Eitan Adler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Eitan Adler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: uptime 2 years! To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 8:41 PM Lowell Gilbert wrote: [snip] And in theory it should be possible to change time_t to unsigned, and get another two-thirds of a century out of it... However this would break binary compatibility with anything compiled before the change. One thing to consider is that changing any signed value to an unsigned value then prevents functions which return that type from returning -1 (or otherwise 0) to indicate an error condition. Even if it doesn't affect anything at all in the base system, it could impact untold sums of software developed not in the base system. - mdh ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mailman + Apache + Cookies + FreeBSD
--- On Thu, 10/9/08, Grant Peel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Grant Peel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mailman + Apache + Cookies + FreeBSD To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 5:59 PM Hi all, I am not a fan of cross posting, but, I have to make a exception in this case as I can't seem to nail down whether its the software or OS causing me the problem. Software: Apache 2.2, Python 2.5, Mailmain 2.1.11 OS: FreeBSD 6.2 Release #0 Apache and Python were built from ports, Mailman was built from source. Problem: I can't stay logged into the Mailman web interface. Each time I submit a form, I am logged out. When I do log in, If I look on my local machine, I cant find a session cookie anywhere. It like is never set. And the Mailman documentation clearly states that none of the changes will be saved in that scenario. Question: are there any people out there who can point me in the right direction? I assume that Python should be setting a cookie, but thats just a guess ... could it be OS related? In short, no, there's really no way that the OS could be at fault unless you had some weird TCP stack bug that caused it to drop the same packet every time, which someone else would've noticed by now. ;) The long answer is that Cookies are set by headers in the HTTP protocol response, and sent back to the server in the request headers of the clients subsequent requests. Python doesn't set cookies, Apache does, but python can command Apache to do so, and Mailman can, as a python script, command python to do so. Chances are mailman is what's misconfigured. - mdh ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
monodevelop compile-time problem
Howdy, When trying to compile monodevelop on FreeBSD 7-STABLE, I get the following errors: Making all in contrib Making all in Mono.Cecil Error expanding embedded variable. *** Error code 1 Stop in /u/root/bld/monodevelop-1.0/contrib. *** Error code 1 Stop in /u/root/bld/monodevelop-1.0. This is similar to an error when I tried to compile mono-addins, however installing mono-addins from ports worked. I'm using the latest mono/mono-addins/gtksourceview/gtk# from ports. Unfortunately, there's no monodevelop port. Has anyone successfully gotten monodevelop working? I looked for patches in the mono-addins port to see if it changed anything that might fix this error, but found none. Any help is, of course, much appreciated. Thanks, mdh ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MPlayer is broken on 71-PRERELEASE?
Maybe bump the shared memory sysctl's? I've never had a problem with mplayer, and I've got the following in my sysctl.conf: kern.ipc.shmmax=67108864 kern.ipc.shmall=32768 The xine install suggests this (which is why I have them set), and mplayer is a similar type of application, so it may help out there as well. - mdh --- On Sat, 9/27/08, Yuri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Yuri [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: MPlayer is broken on 71-PRERELEASE? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Saturday, September 27, 2008, 4:07 PM When I am trying to play a regular DVD video I am getting a messages: X11 error: BadShmSeg (invalid shared segment parameter)% 11.2% 9 0 Similar messages are printed hen I tried to play some other media files. Seems like something is broken in MPlayer on FreeBSD-71-PRERELEASE. Few months ago it used to work fine. FreeBSD xxx.xxx.xxx 7.1-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE #13: Sat Sep 13 22:42:11 PDT 2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 mplayer-0.99.11_6 Yuri ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SIP compatible phone program for unix
--- Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: anyone knows such - pure text mode prefered. I'm not sure for the console, but there's Ekiga which is an X11 app that supports SIP. - mdh No Cost - Get a month of Blockbuster Total Access now. Sweet deal for Yahoo! users and friends. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text1.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Laptop advice
--- David Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 01:53:57PM -0400, Joe Demeny wrote: In the end, the best advice seems to be indeed to take the FreeBSD CD to the brick-and-mortar store... Or you could purchase an Apple Mac Book and have a commercially supported Unix pre-installed. Guess that would take all the fun out of it? While I like Mac products and OSX is pretty cool, I still find their laptops a bit pricey. By the by, has anyone tried FreeBSD on one of those little Asus EEEpc sublaptops? A real, tiny, i386 laptop for $300 (plus maybe a bit more for an additional SD card to bump the storage some) seems like a truly awesome deal. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: from 6.3 to 7.0, will this work?
--- Tsu-Fan Cheng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am thinking upgrading my hardware to core2 duo to enjoy fbsd 7.0, my old 6.3 runs on amd64 3400+. If I just buy a new m-board+core 2 cpu, can my old installation boot up the system, and then allow me to recompile kernel and stuff? I thought about getting a new drive too to do a fresh install, but my bay is full and kinda on a budget, thank you!! If you are running AMD64, then no it would not run on an Intel core2 duo based system. Maybe consider an Athlon64 X2? You could also just backup your data, then do a fresh install of FreeBSD 7 for whatever architecture you decide to build out with, and restore your data from the backup. - mdh Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: from 6.3 to 7.0, will this work?
--- Roland Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 12:13:07PM -0700, mdh wrote: If you are running AMD64, then no it would not run on an Intel core2 duo based system. Maybe consider an Yes it would. The Core 2 duo chips support the amd64 instruction set. Oh, I'm quite surprised then and had no idea. I'm sorry for giving wrong information. Do make sure that you have the GENERIC kernel kernel installed, so you won't run into missing drivers etc. Well, you can always trial-and-error it with kldload after the fact too usually, since the most basic drivers are very likely still a part of his kernel (ata and friends, pci bus, etc) But before you buy anything, look over the motherboard's specs to see if all the components are supported. Athlon64 X2? You could also just backup your data, Making a backup is always a good idea. :-) For sure. 300-500 gig USB hard drives are inexpensive enough nowadays that there's no excuse not to, and fast enough that they can save you a lot of time. I used one when upgrading from 6.2 to 7 and find myself leaving some not-often-used stuff like old movies and whatnot on it, freeing up more hard drive space anyway. - mdh Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: solved freebsd equiv of libdl.a (load shared libs)
--- Steve Franks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 2:39 PM, Steve Franks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am porting a linux app which is looking for libdl.a (which I understand from googling is related to loading of shared libs). The app makes a libusb-based shared lib. FreeBSD uses shared libs, so I assume there is equivalent functionality somewhere. I also see libdl.a in /compat/linux/lib, but I assume if I link a native FreeBSD app against this, fireworks will be the only result. I further assume since I got no error from gcc, that some freebsd header actally points to the exact functions expected in libdl.a, so they are in there somewhere Steve -- Steve Franks, KE7BTE Staff Engineer La Palma Devices, LLC http://www.lapalmadevices.com (520) 312-0089 Looks like changing -ldl to -lc (libc.a) to the link step in my makefile did it. No idea why they weren't picking that up... Steve You don't need -lc. C compilers link in libc regardless. You may also want to consider letting it load dynamically at runtime rather than linking the static .a file at compile-time. Chances are what it was looking for was dlopen() and friends, which are in libc on FreeBSD. They are a part of libc on my Linux systems as well though, so not sure why it'd be trying to link against another library, though admittedly I know a lot more about development for FreeBSD than for Linux. - mdh Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MPlayer does not compile (actually gio-fam-backend does not)
--- Andriy Babiy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to compile MPlayer but it just doesn't work because it depends on gio-fam-backend and that does not compile. It always stops with: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgio-2.0 gmake: *** [libgiofam.la] Error 1 *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/gio-fam-backend. *** Error code 1 Any ideas what I can do? Niels I ran into this issue as well. It seems to have more to do with a change to the gio-fam-backend port requiring something recently added to the glib port. This bug happened to me with glib 2.14 and I fixed it by upgrading to glib 2.16 which is the version the glib20 port currently installs. This change in the port must have happened recently, like in the past few days. The fix is to upgrade your devel/glib20 port to the latest, and then go for the gio-fam-backend port. What does the output of uname and objformat look like? This happened to me on 7.0-S, but I'd imagine it probably occurs everywhere. I'd guess that libgio is a part of the glib20 port that was not installed by 2.14 but is by 2.16. gio-fam-backend should probably do a dependency check for it and if it isn't there, should upgrade devel/glib20. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How do I add search paths to gcc
--- Eduardo Cerejo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My gcc is only looking in /usr/lib and /usr/include for libraries and hearders and I added the paths /usr/local/lib/ and /usr/local/include to my .cshrc file: set path = (/sbin /bin /usr/sbin /usr/bin /usr/games /usr/local/sbin /usr/local/bin /usr/local/lib /usr/local/include $HOME/bin) PATH in the environment is where your shell searches for programs to run from the command line, system(), etc. This allows you to type, say, `sh` instead of having to type out `/bin/sh` or risking having `/home/somekiddie/sh` run instead when you type it. but I still have to use gcc with -I and -L switch for a program to compile or else it will fail. I'm using tcsh. There are two ways to set up alternate places to find libraries. The first is ldconfig, and you can see ports run this when you install a port containing shared libraries for example. The other is to use the LD_LIBRARY_PATH environment variable to set alternate paths at run-time. The 'ldconfig(1)' man page has more info for you. Take care, mdh Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Best way to achive email hosting for several domains
--- Norberto Meijome [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 15:29:29 +0100 Roberto Nunnari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now, everything works fine, but I'm a bit concerned with the webmail login.. I'd like [EMAIL PROTECTED] to login with a username equal to the email, but as the authentication in horde is handled by imp, I'm not sure how to proceed with that.. Hi Roberto, I try to avoid that beast of horde...but most webmail products that I've seen (including Horde, if memory doesn't fail me), simply make an imap connection to your server and pass on whatever auth you give to it IOW, whatever works for imap works with webmail. anyway, it wouldn't be too hard to test, right? B This is indeed how squirrelmail works, and I've found it to be incredibly easy to roll squirrelmail out. Since people will be sending authentication credentials, you may want to set it up on an SSL-enabled web host so that they are not sent in the clear. Generally, I use dovecot which allows me to listen on all IPs for imap/ssl connections, and localhost only for imap non-ssl (for squirrelmail's benefit), then have squirrelmail installed under an ssl vhost, so that users can't send their credentials over the internet in the clear. Take care, mdh Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
7.0-STABLE hanging while running Xorg with nv driver
Hello, I recently upgraded a system to 7.0/amd64 from 6.2. More accurately, I freshly installed 7.0-R on it, then csup'd to -STABLE. This system worked fine using nvidia.com's Xorg drivers with Xorg 6 on 6.2, and after installing 7.0 and building -STABLE, things seemed to be going well also. Once I started Xorg with kdm/KDE however, the system would (usually within 1-5 minutes after logging in) hang. I tried gdm/gnome with the same results. This was using the nv driver that was included with the system. The hang would occur after some level of activity had occured - once during openoffice startup, once during seamonkey startup, once after opening and then closing KDE's control center and then opening an xterm... The exact symptom was that the system (including network stack) would hang - I couldn't ssh to it, or ping it, or even toggle the caps lock/num lock LEDs on the keyboard. The mouse cursor was, however, still responsive on the screen. I found this very strange. It's a USB mouse. Unfortunately because it hangs in this way, I can't get a meaningful dump or anything of that sort. My next step was to start Xorg using the vga driver. I was unable to reproduce the hang using the vga driver, however the max resolution and depth is of course unbearable for even short-term use. ;) This leads me to believe that the issue may be with the nv driver. I'm also getting an error out of Xorg, which you can see in the attached xorg_err.txt file. I also have suspicions towards how acpi assigns the interrupts and such to the video controller. The video controller is a GeForce 6200 in the PCIEx16 slot. I have tried to start without acpi (both turning it off in the bios and instructing FreeBSD's boot loader not to load it, however it seems that FreeBSD can't find anything without acpi now - it couldn't mount root, or do other useful things.) A few things that changed between my old build and my current system... * 7.0 seems to support (or more fully support) this system's ACPI. It's an nvidia nf4u chipset. The support was either non-existent or very limited in 6.2. * I was using i386 before, but went to amd64 with 7.0. * I'm using the nv driver for Xorg instead of the ones from nvidia.com. * Xorg 6 - Xorg 7, and all other software up No hardware has changed. Thank you for any help you can provide. - mdh Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJnexus0 acpi0 cpu0 pnpinfo _HID=none _UID=0 at handle=\_PR_.CPU0 acpi_perf0 powernow0 cpufreq0 cpu1 pnpinfo _HID=none _UID=0 at handle=\_PR_.CPU1 acpi_perf1 powernow1 cpufreq1 acpi_button0 pnpinfo _HID=PNP0C0C _UID=0 at handle=\_SB_.PWRB acpi_button1 pnpinfo _HID=PNP0C0E _UID=0 at handle=\_SB_.SLPB pcib0 pnpinfo _HID=PNP0A08 _UID=1 at handle=\_SB_.PCI0 pci0 unknown pnpinfo vendor=0x10de device=0x005e subvendor=0x1565 subdevice=0x3402 class=0x058000 at slot=0 function=0 isab0 pnpinfo vendor=0x10de device=0x0050 subvendor=0x1565 subdevice=0x3402 class=0x060100 at slot=1 function=0 handle=\_SB_.PCI0.VT86 isa0 sc0 sio1 sio2 sio3 vga0 orm0 unknown pnpinfo vendor=0x10de device=0x0052 subvendor=0x1565 subdevice=0x3402 class=0x0c0500 at slot=1 function=1 handle=\_SB_.PCI0.SMB0 ohci0 pnpinfo vendor=0x10de device=0x005a subvendor=0x1565 subdevice=0x3402 class=0x0c0310 at slot=2 function=0 handle=\_SB_.PCI0.USB0 usb0 uhub0 ums0 pnpinfo vendor=0x1241 product=0x1166 devclass=0x00 devsubclass=0x00 release=0x0200 sernum= intclass=0x03 intsubclass=0x01 at port=3 interface=0 ehci0 pnpinfo vendor=0x10de device=0x005b subvendor=0x1565 subdevice=0x3402 class=0x0c0320 at slot=2 function=1 handle=\_SB_.PCI0.USB2 usb1 uhub1 pcm0 pnpinfo vendor=0x10de device=0x0059 subvendor=0x1565 subdevice=0x8211 class=0x040100 at slot=4 function=0 handle=\_SB_.PCI0.MACI atapci0 pnpinfo vendor=0x10de device=0x0053 subvendor=0x1565 subdevice=0x3402 class=0x01018a at slot=6 function=0 handle=\_SB_.PCI0.IDE0 ata0 acd0 atapicam0 ata1 acd1 atapicam1 atapci1 pnpinfo vendor=0x10de device=0x0054 subvendor=0x1565 subdevice=0x5401 class=0x010485 at slot=7 function=0 handle=\_SB_.PCI0.SAT1 ata2 ad4 subdisk4 atapicam2 ata3 ad6 subdisk6 atapicam3 atapci2 pnpinfo vendor=0x10de device=0x0055 subvendor=0x1565 subdevice=0x5401 class=0x010485 at slot=8 function=0 handle=\_SB_.PCI0.SAT2 ata4 atapicam4 ata5 atapicam5 pcib1
Re: my brother is making me learn FreeBSD...
It's been my experience that finding drivers for hardware created for open source operating systems by developers within the communities is quite easy, while such community doesn't exist for windows and you are 100% reliant on the vendor to supply working drivers. If they supply crap drivers, go out of business and stop providing any, etc, you are simply out of luck, while with an open source model it is likely that someone will have kept development going if the vendor ever even did produce drivers for those systems. There's very little in the way of modern hardware that isn't supported by FreeBSD. The one time I ever ran into unsupported hardware, a quick update of -STABLE brought the necessary support in the driver. The fact is that political BS aside, for 90% of workers, FreeBSD/KDE/openoffice/firefox will meet their needs just as well as windows, and in fact if you start with something like PC-BSD --- Chad Perrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 09:18:25AM +0100, Nejc Å koberne wrote: everything you run on windows can be run on Freebsd and more. Huh? AFAIK FreeBSD can not act as a domain controller for an Microsoft AD. And this is something you would need in a company full of Windows boxen. You're thinking of it from the wrong direction. FreeBSD can serve the same role to other Unix and Linux boxen that MS Windows can to other MS Windows systems. And don't tell me I can throw away Windows and install FreeBSD on hundreds of clients (with so varying hardware that even Windows has problems sometimes). Why not? There's hardware on which FreeBSD will run and MS Windows will not, y'know. It goes both ways. -- CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] Isaac Asimov: Part of the inhumanity of the computer is that, once it is completely programmed and working smoothly, it is completely honest. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Best way to achive email hosting for several domains
You could have your imapd authenticate against
something other than /etc/passwd, and map the
usernames in said other authentication mechanism to
the appropriate mail boxes. There's no real reason
nowadays to have a system user for every email user.
Generally speaking, what you want likely doesn't
concern your webmail app at all so much as it does
your imapd. I use dovecot and have found its
configuration to be extremely flexible while not
overwhelmingly complex. You may want to check it out.
I'm using it with a mysql backend as well as exim,
and they have no problem authenticating against the
same mysql tables very easily.
Take care, mdh
--- Roberto Nunnari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Norberto.
Norberto Meijome wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 15:29:29 +0100
Roberto Nunnari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Now, everything works fine, but I'm a bit
concerned with the
webmail login.. I'd like [EMAIL PROTECTED] to
login with a
username equal to the email, but as the
authentication in
horde is handled by imp, I'm not sure how to
proceed with that..
Hi Roberto,
I try to avoid that beast of horde...but most
webmail products that I've seen
(including Horde, if memory doesn't fail me),
simply make an imap connection to
your server and pass on whatever auth you give to
it IOW, whatever works
for imap works with webmail.
Yes.. That's how it works now.. horde simply
delegates to imp that
does the authentication to the imap server.. what I
mean is that
as users unix accounts are named like aaa01, aaa02,
aab01, but
they are mapped to email addresses like
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED], I'd
like to let
the user authenticate to the webmail using the email
address,
and then have some piece of software map the email
address to
the local unix account before attempting the auth
process..
I found out that imp provides hook points to do this
kind
of things and maybe I'll go that direction, but I
just
would like to hear what other people are doing..
maybe
have aliases in /etc/passwd (ie different usernames,
same UID/GID)?
Best regards.
Robi.
anyway, it wouldn't be too hard to test, right?
B
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Re: my brother is making me learn FreeBSD...
Sure, check out the icecast and darkice ports. Icecast is a server, darkice is a client. There're also some other useful ports like icegenerator (automatic mp3 streaming client software). Take care, mdh --- Zbigniew Szalbot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, 2008/3/20, Nerius Landys [EMAIL PROTECTED]: You could make it a video game server. That's why I set up a FreeBSD server. I run games/iourbanterror, but there are other games you could run. And could FreeBSD be used to become a streaming internet radio station? Has anyone been doing something like that? I am very interested to hear and hopefully it is still within the topic here... Thanks! -- Zbigniew Szalbot ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
