On Sat, Apr 02, 2011 at 08:07:25PM -0700, Chris Telting wrote:
seriously, this is why i want that debian+freebsd that was
discussed recently. the kernel is ours and number one in the
world. and the ports stuff is basically packages that more/less
just-work. you can get
2011/4/3 Chris Telting christopher...@telting.org:
seriously, this is why i want that debian+freebsd that was
discussed recently. the kernel is ours and number one in the
world. and the ports stuff is basically packages that more/less
just-work. you can get the
On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 5:07 AM, Chris Telting
christopher...@telting.org wrote:
How does debian get around all the make config options that we deal with?
Such as does such and such package pull in samba... Or does debian just
compile with every option more or less enabled?
Yes, and no.
Op 2-4-2011 19:03, Randal L. Schwartz schreef:
That's one of the first things I do with a fresh system that will be
only a server:
echo WITHOUT_X11=yes /etc/make.conf
And then *never* use packages. Only ports
Are the quotes neccessary?
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On Sat, Apr 02, 2011 at 05:07:54PM -0700, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
Chris Rees utis...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2 April 2011 00:58, Chris Telting christopher...@telting.org wrote:
One of my biggest gripes with the ports system is dependency hell.
I think you've misunderstood the term
On Sun, Apr 03, 2011 at 10:35:08AM +0200, Romain Garbage wrote:
2011/4/3 Chris Telting christopher...@telting.org:
seriously, this is why i want that debian+freebsd that was
discussed recently. the kernel is ours and number one in the
world. and the ports stuff is
Dick == Dick Hoogendijk d...@nagual.nl writes:
Dick Are the quotes neccessary?
No.
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On 2 April 2011 00:58, Chris Telting christopher...@telting.org wrote:
Just in a thoughtful mood and thought I'd to the question to the cloud.
One of my biggest gripes with the ports system is dependency hell.
I think you've misunderstood the term dependency hell [1]. Anyone who
has spent
On 2-4-2011 2:51, Polytropon wrote:
So there is still stuff one needs to compile, and
YOU are in charge to define the options you need.
This is the downside when you're running a multi-
purpose OS like FreeBSD.
That is a good thing. But I remember an issue that I never understood. I
onced set
Chris Telting wrote:
See above. What I want to see is minimal installs with all features
being usable once you install the optional components. And run time
detection for programs shouldn't be all that difficult or computation
intensive. The program would just consult pkg_info or another
Matt == Matt Emmerton m...@gsicomp.on.ca writes:
Matt Every time I see a webserver with X11 on it, it's because of these two.
Of
Matt course, using ghostscript*-nox11 as well as setting WITHOUT_X11=yes
solves a
Matt lot of this mess, but on a system that's already been infested, it's
Matt
On Fri, 01 Apr 2011 21:36:55 -0700, Chris Telting christopher...@telting.org
wrote:
On 04/01/2011 17:51, Polytropon wrote:
On Fri, 01 Apr 2011 16:58:04 -0700, Chris
Teltingchristopher...@telting.org wrote:
Just in a thoughtful mood and thought I'd to the question to the cloud.
Oh the
Chris Rees utis...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2 April 2011 00:58, Chris Telting christopher...@telting.org wrote:
One of my biggest gripes with the ports system is dependency hell.
I think you've misunderstood the term dependency hell [1]. Anyone
who has spent hours struggling with rpm ... would
On Apr 2, 2011, at 7:07 PM, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
Chris Rees utis...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2 April 2011 00:58, Chris Telting christopher...@telting.org wrote:
One of my biggest gripes with the ports system is dependency hell.
I think you've misunderstood the term dependency hell [1].
On Sat, Apr 02, 2011 at 07:45:06PM -0500, Ryan Coleman wrote:
On Apr 2, 2011, at 7:07 PM, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
Chris Rees utis...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2 April 2011 00:58, Chris Telting christopher...@telting.org wrote:
One of my biggest gripes with the ports system is
seriously, this is why i want that debian+freebsd that was
discussed recently. the kernel is ours and number one in the
world. and the ports stuff is basically packages that more/less
just-work. you can get the src =with= the pkg.
How does debian get around
On Fri, 1 Apr 2011, Chris Telting wrote:
One of my biggest gripes with the ports system is dependency hell. Ports
link against so my optional components and pull them into the install.
Libraries and components are built based on make file defines. But this
doesn't have to be so. It's
On Fri, 01 Apr 2011 16:58:04 -0700, Chris Telting christopher...@telting.org
wrote:
Just in a thoughtful mood and thought I'd to the question to the cloud.
Oh the joy of cloud computing, erm... discussion. :-)
One of my biggest gripes with the ports system is dependency hell.
Ports link
The number of console
programs that want to pull in X window or kde is
my boggling.
Hmmm... The only one I remember being that way is
the old cvsup, but there was nocvsup-nogui (or -nox11?).
Over the years I've found that ghostscript and gd are two common culprits.
Every time I see a
On 04/01/2011 17:51, Polytropon wrote:
On Fri, 01 Apr 2011 16:58:04 -0700, Chris Teltingchristopher...@telting.org
wrote:
Just in a thoughtful mood and thought I'd to the question to the cloud.
Oh the joy of cloud computing, erm... discussion. :-)
Wasn't that the a subplot of the hitch
Andrey Shuvikov wrote:
Hello,
I'm trying to figure out port dependencies on my (freshly installed)
FreeBSD 7.0. For example, I have two automake ports:
$ pkg_info | grep automake-1
automake-1.5_4,1GNU Standards-compliant Makefile generator (1.5)
automake-1.6.3 GNU
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