George Davidovich wrote:
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 04:45:40PM -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote:
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 10:23:47PM +0200, Roland Smith wrote:
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 12:13:48PM -0700, George Davidovich wrote: I
remember this special non-condictive 3M fluid that can be used
Gary Gatten wrote:
Naw, I don't recall the POST error exactly, but from what I remember it
couldn't find a boot device. Could've been the controller, but from
what I recall I swapped the drive (later) and all was good. I really
don't recall though - I could've put the bad drive in a good
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 02:51:41PM -0600, Tim Judd wrote:
Buy spinrite, no matter what.
It's OS/FS independent. it works on the bits stored on the magnetic
platters, NOT on a filesystem. TiVo, Linux, BSD and Mac OSX drives
are treated the same. Bits on a magnetic platter. It's recovery
On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 18:10:38 +0200
cpghost cpgh...@cordula.ws wrote:
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 02:51:41PM -0600, Tim Judd wrote:
Buy spinrite, no matter what.
It's OS/FS independent. it works on the bits stored on the magnetic
platters, NOT on a filesystem. TiVo, Linux, BSD and Mac OSX
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 11:46:50PM -0600, Kelly Martin wrote:
plugging the drive in and accessing it, I heard those tell-tale signs
of hard drive failure: clicks and pops and other unusual noises, so I
know that it has some damage. I hate those sounds, having heard them
on failing drives too
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 08:07:41PM +0200, Roland Smith wrote:
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 11:46:50PM -0600, Kelly Martin wrote:
plugging the drive in and accessing it, I heard those tell-tale
signs of hard drive failure: clicks and pops and other unusual
noises, so I know that it has some
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 12:13:48PM -0700, George Davidovich wrote:
snip
If the drive is that bad, it is doubtfull if dd or ddrescue will be
able to get a good copy.
Probably true. I hesitate to suggest this, but sticking the drive in a
freezer (preferrably in a ziplock bag) for a few
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 10:23:47PM +0200, Roland Smith wrote:
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 12:13:48PM -0700, George Davidovich wrote:
snip
If the drive is that bad, it is doubtfull if dd or ddrescue will be
able to get a good copy.
Probably true. I hesitate to suggest this, but sticking
On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 12:13:48 -0700, George Davidovich free...@optimis.net
wrote:
Probably true. I hesitate to suggest this, but sticking the drive in a
freezer (preferrably in a ziplock bag) for a few hours or overnight
might help. Stories from people claiming I swear it works! go back
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 04:45:40PM -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote:
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 10:23:47PM +0200, Roland Smith wrote:
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 12:13:48PM -0700, George Davidovich wrote: I
remember this special non-condictive 3M fluid that can be used to
cool electronics. A group
On Aug 26, 2009, at 14:14:51, George Davidovich wrote:
I believe you. I saw a similar scene in a movie, so I already knew it
had to be true. Bonus points for anyone that can add to this thread's
collection of off-topic but semi-interesting trivia and name the
movie.
What is The Abyss for
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[mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Polytropon
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 4:13 PM
To: George Davidovich
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: hard disk failure - now what?
On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 12:13:48 -0700, George
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 02:14:51PM -0700, George Davidovich wrote:
A number of supercomputers from Cray and Control Data and maybe some
other places used this sort of thing on some experimental systems. I
don't know if any ever were put in to commercial production. They
submerged who
On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 16:30:59 -0500, Gary Gatten ggat...@waddell.com wrote:
I had a laptop years ago that started to die, but seemed to work OK when
first removed from a cold car. After an hour or so it would die. I
eventually put it in the freezer long enough to get what I needed off
the
: hard disk failure - now what?
On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 16:30:59 -0500, Gary Gatten ggat...@waddell.com
wrote:
I had a laptop years ago that started to die, but seemed to work OK
when
first removed from a cold car. After an hour or so it would die. I
eventually put it in the freezer long enough to get
On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 20:07:41 +0200, Roland Smith rsm...@xs4all.nl wrote:
If the drive is that bad, it is doubtfull if dd or ddrescue will be able to
get a good copy.
There's an additional problem: Let's assume dd creates an 1:1 copy
of the file system in its actual state - nobody guarantees
!
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From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org
[mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Polytropon
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 4:13 PM
To: George Davidovich
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: hard disk failure - now what?
On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 12
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 01:03:58AM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 20:07:41 +0200, Roland Smith rsm...@xs4all.nl wrote:
If the drive is that bad, it is doubtfull if dd or ddrescue will be able to
get a good copy.
There's an additional problem: Let's assume dd creates an 1:1
Lowell Gilbert freebsd-questions-lo...@be-well.ilk.org wrote:
Kelly Martin kellymar...@gmail.com writes:
I just experienced a hard drive failure on one of my
FreeBSD 7.2 production servers with no backup!
...
First, try copying the entire disk, *without* mounting it.
Yep.
Use dd(1) to get
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 10:26:11PM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 12:29:19 -0600, Kelly Martin kellymar...@gmail.com
wrote:
My question: what kind of checks and/or repair tools should I run on
the damaged drive after it's mounted? Or should I mount it as
read-only and start
per...@pluto.rain.com writes:
Lowell Gilbert freebsd-questions-lo...@be-well.ilk.org wrote:
Kelly Martin kellymar...@gmail.com writes:
I just experienced a hard drive failure on one of my
FreeBSD 7.2 production servers with no backup!
...
First, try copying the entire disk, *without*
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 11:04:38 -0400, Jerry McAllister jerr...@msu.edu wrote:
dd will barf on bad bits too.
You can tinker to make it skip over the bad block, but it
won't read it.
As it has been suggested, there are interesting tools in the
ports collection. I'll post my famous list again.
First, thanks to everyone for the really great replies. Many
suggestions were quite helpful and have kept me on track. I'll quote a
couple of people and then add some comments below.
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Roland Smithrsm...@xs4all.nl wrote:
It _could_ just be a bad or improperly
I just experienced a hard drive failure on one of my FreeBSD 7.2
production servers with no backup! I am so mad at myself for not
backing up!! Now it's a salvage operation. Here are the type of errors
I was getting on the console, over-and-over:
ad4: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA48 retrying (0 retries
On 8/24/09, Kelly Martin kellymar...@gmail.com wrote:
I just experienced a hard drive failure on one of my FreeBSD 7.2
production servers with no backup! I am so mad at myself for not
backing up!! Now it's a salvage operation. Here are the type of errors
I was getting on the console,
Kelly Martin kellymar...@gmail.com writes:
I just experienced a hard drive failure on one of my FreeBSD 7.2
production servers with no backup! I am so mad at myself for not
backing up!! Now it's a salvage operation. Here are the type of errors
I was getting on the console, over-and-over:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 12:29:19 -0600, Kelly Martin kellymar...@gmail.com wrote:
My question: what kind of checks and/or repair tools should I run on
the damaged drive after it's mounted? Or should I mount it as
read-only and start backing it up?
Thou shalt not manipluate thy file systems while
On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 14:13:22 -0600, Tim Judd taj...@gmail.com wrote:
If I were you, get a copy of spinrite (from grc.com) and always keep
it handy. It can be risky on a drive already failing. Here's what
I'd do
Buy spinrite, no matter what.
Is it really such a good tool? From my own
On 8/24/09, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 14:13:22 -0600, Tim Judd taj...@gmail.com wrote:
If I were you, get a copy of spinrite (from grc.com) and always keep
it handy. It can be risky on a drive already failing. Here's what
I'd do
Buy spinrite, no matter
On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 14:51:41 -0600, Tim Judd taj...@gmail.com wrote:
It's OS/FS independent. it works on the bits stored on the magnetic
platters, NOT on a filesystem.
Ah, I see. So it's primarily intended for diagnosing and recovering
from physically defective disks. Good to know, because
On 8/24/09, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 14:51:41 -0600, Tim Judd taj...@gmail.com wrote:
It's OS/FS independent. it works on the bits stored on the magnetic
platters, NOT on a filesystem.
Ah, I see. So it's primarily intended for diagnosing and recovering
from
On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 15:32:05 -0600, Tim Judd taj...@gmail.com wrote:
Not just diagnostics and recovery, it's for preventive maintenance,
and healthy operations too. Most people who use it are in a
diagnostics and recovery, but if you always use it as preventive
maintenance, you'll never need
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 12:29:19PM -0600, Kelly Martin wrote:
I just experienced a hard drive failure on one of my FreeBSD 7.2
production servers with no backup! I am so mad at myself for not
backing up!!
Welcome to the club. :-)
Now it's a salvage operation. Here are the type of errors
I
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