Re: how to boot or access problem file system

2009-08-01 Thread perryh
Gardner Bell gbel...@rogers.com wrote: The stench from Denmark is getting to me... ;-) Insulting much with your remark about Denmark? Methinks it be an oblique reference to a line from Shakespeare's play about the Dane with no insult intended, then or now.

Re: how to boot or access problem file system

2009-08-01 Thread PJ
Gardner Bell wrote: Gardner Bell --- On Fri, 7/31/09, PJ af.gour...@videotron.ca wrote: From: PJ af.gour...@videotron.ca Subject: Re: how to boot or access problem file system To: Roland Smith rsm...@xs4all.nl Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: Friday, July 31, 2009, 8:44 PM

Re: how to boot or access problem file system

2009-08-01 Thread PJ
per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Gardner Bell gbel...@rogers.com wrote: The stench from Denmark is getting to me... ;-) Insulting much with your remark about Denmark? Methinks it be an oblique reference to a line from Shakespeare's play about the Dane with no insult intended,

Re: how to boot or access problem file system

2009-07-31 Thread Jonathan McKeown
On Thursday 30 July 2009 23:14:39 PJ wrote: But isn't it strange that it used to be pretty simple to upgrade and update. But recently, I notice that communication between the developers and users (or is it the manual page writers) are getting far away from the realities of user/operational

Re: how to boot or access problem file system

2009-07-31 Thread PJ
Roland Smith wrote: On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 03:20:55PM -0400, PJ wrote: Roland Smith wrote: On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 01:40:58PM -0400, PJ wrote: What can be done to access a file system that seems to have the boot sector screwed up? I forgot to mention that

Re: how to boot or access problem file system

2009-07-31 Thread Roland Smith
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 02:36:23PM -0400, PJ wrote: Thanks for replying Roland, I've been struggling with upgrading 7.0 to 7.2... it has taken a lot of my time and I am still not happy. snip Anyway... back to the messed up 7.1 installation. I ran livefs 7.1 and chose option 6 (I think; it was

Re: how to boot or access problem file system

2009-07-31 Thread PJ
Roland Smith wrote: On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 03:20:55PM -0400, PJ wrote: Roland Smith wrote: On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 01:40:58PM -0400, PJ wrote: What can be done to access a file system that seems to have the boot sector screwed up? I forgot to mention that

Re: how to boot or access problem file system

2009-07-31 Thread PJ
Roland Smith wrote: On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 02:36:23PM -0400, PJ wrote: Thanks for replying Roland, I've been struggling with upgrading 7.0 to 7.2... it has taken a lot of my time and I am still not happy. snip Anyway... back to the messed up 7.1 installation. I ran livefs 7.1

Re: how to boot or access problem file system

2009-07-31 Thread Roland Smith
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 03:12:21PM -0400, PJ wrote: Roland Smith wrote: On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 03:20:55PM -0400, PJ wrote: Roland Smith wrote: On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 01:40:58PM -0400, PJ wrote: What can be done to access a file system that seems to have the

Re: how to boot or access problem file system

2009-07-31 Thread Roland Smith
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 03:42:43PM -0400, PJ wrote: Basically, the news is not good. The directories files are not what I had to begin with. ls /dev/ad0s1 or any disk/slice merely gets: Permission denied. Now that is certainly weird. :-) I've never come across something like that. What do

Re: how to boot or access problem file system

2009-07-31 Thread PJ
Roland Smith wrote: On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 03:12:21PM -0400, PJ wrote: Roland Smith wrote: On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 03:20:55PM -0400, PJ wrote: Roland Smith wrote: On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 01:40:58PM -0400, PJ wrote: What can be

Re: how to boot or access problem file system

2009-07-31 Thread PJ
Roland Smith wrote: On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 03:42:43PM -0400, PJ wrote: Basically, the news is not good. The directories files are not what I had to begin with. ls /dev/ad0s1 or any disk/slice merely gets: Permission denied. Now that is certainly weird. :-) I've never come across

Re: how to boot or access problem file system

2009-07-31 Thread PJ
PJ wrote: Roland Smith wrote: On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 03:42:43PM -0400, PJ wrote: Basically, the news is not good. The directories files are not what I had to begin with. ls /dev/ad0s1 or any disk/slice merely gets: Permission denied. Now that is certainly weird. :-) I've never come

Re: how to boot or access problem file system

2009-07-31 Thread Gardner Bell
Gardner Bell --- On Fri, 7/31/09, PJ af.gour...@videotron.ca wrote: From: PJ af.gour...@videotron.ca Subject: Re: how to boot or access problem file system To: Roland Smith rsm...@xs4all.nl Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: Friday, July 31, 2009, 8:44 PM PJ wrote: Roland

how to boot or access problem file system

2009-07-30 Thread PJ
What can be done to access a file system that seems to have the boot sector screwed up? The /usr files should be ok but how to access? I get errors that the file system is full and I have no idea of how to deal with the boot up - the help message is no help! Boot says it cannot find a kernel...

Re: how to boot or access problem file system

2009-07-30 Thread Tim Judd
On 7/30/09, PJ af.gour...@videotron.ca wrote: What can be done to access a file system that seems to have the boot sector screwed up? The /usr files should be ok but how to access? I get errors that the file system is full and I have no idea of how to deal with the boot up - the help message

Re: how to boot or access problem file system

2009-07-30 Thread Roland Smith
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 01:40:58PM -0400, PJ wrote: What can be done to access a file system that seems to have the boot sector screwed up? Do you mean the filesystem's superblock? Or the slice table (partitions in PC parlance) or the freebsd partitions (disk labels)? Because the boot sector is

Re: how to boot or access problem file system

2009-07-30 Thread PJ
Roland Smith wrote: On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 01:40:58PM -0400, PJ wrote: What can be done to access a file system that seems to have the boot sector screwed up? Do you mean the filesystem's superblock? Or the slice table (partitions in PC parlance) or the freebsd partitions (disk

Re: how to boot or access problem file system

2009-07-30 Thread PJ
Tim Judd wrote: On 7/30/09, PJ af.gour...@videotron.ca wrote: What can be done to access a file system that seems to have the boot sector screwed up? The /usr files should be ok but how to access? I get errors that the file system is full and I have no idea of how to deal with the boot

Re: how to boot or access problem file system

2009-07-30 Thread Michael Powell
PJ wrote: What can be done to access a file system that seems to have the boot sector screwed up? Usually there are more than 1 file system present. The MBR will have no bearing on any other than the one you need to boot from, and this is usually the / - aka root. Having a screwed up MBR

Re: how to boot or access problem file system

2009-07-30 Thread PJ
Michael Powell wrote: PJ wrote: What can be done to access a file system that seems to have the boot sector screwed up? Usually there are more than 1 file system present. The MBR will have no bearing on any other than the one you need to boot from, and this is usually the / -

Re: how to boot or access problem file system

2009-07-30 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Thursday, July 30, 2009 14:45:46 -0500 PJ af.gour...@videotron.ca wrote: Mike, I am not particularly interested in becoming a guru on FreeBSD. I just want to be able to use it productively... by that I do not mean make money, but get something achieved in the way of programming stuff for

Re: how to boot or access problem file system

2009-07-30 Thread PJ
Paul Schmehl wrote: --On Thursday, July 30, 2009 14:45:46 -0500 PJ af.gour...@videotron.ca wrote: Mike, I am not particularly interested in becoming a guru on FreeBSD. I just want to be able to use it productively... by that I do not mean make money, but get something achieved in the way of

Re: how to boot or access problem file system

2009-07-30 Thread Tim Judd
On 7/30/09, PJ af.gour...@videotron.ca wrote: Tim Judd wrote: On 7/30/09, PJ af.gour...@videotron.ca wrote: What can be done to access a file system that seems to have the boot sector screwed up? The /usr files should be ok but how to access? I get errors that the file system is full and I

Re: how to boot or access problem file system

2009-07-30 Thread Roland Smith
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 03:20:55PM -0400, PJ wrote: Roland Smith wrote: On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 01:40:58PM -0400, PJ wrote: What can be done to access a file system that seems to have the boot sector screwed up? I forgot to mention that your boot sector is fine. If it were screwed up,