[Freedombox-discuss] Web of Trust Questions

2011-12-13 Thread John Walsh
Hi Everybody, In the web of trust (WOT), I can create my own identity/key as opposed to a Certificate Authority managing my identity/key. I could bring my key to a key signing party with proof of identity. Let's say Fred was at the key signing party, he checks my proof of identity and signs my

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Java

2011-12-12 Thread John Walsh
Hi Henry, I followed your post to the Lifeshare video. It's so cool the way you just drag and drop a FOAF profile from another website onto Lifeshare to add a friend. This means your friends do not have to have Lifeshare, only a FOAF profile. So sweet. fiftyfour -Original Message-

[Freedombox-discuss] PGP Keyserver

2011-12-09 Thread John Walsh
Hi, Copying my complete PGP key from one machine to another machine using the import/export process seems quite tedious. Can you auto sync your complete key from one machine to another using a keyserver? I suspect a keyserver is only used to store and manage ones public key. I am just getting

[Freedombox-discuss] Online Privacy

2011-11-09 Thread John Walsh
Hi Everybody, I have been think about online privacy for a while from what I have learnt from reading on this list and elsewhere. Below I have tried to join the dots to online privacy and I would be grateful for your feedback. Part of me thinks this is obvious to most people on this list, but I

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] (no longer about) Which domain name for the promotionnal website ?

2011-09-28 Thread John Walsh
Hi all, I do have however a hunch (correct me if I'm wrong) that the capabilities of debian hosting might be more limited than what I would expect for setting up a modern website (mysql, shell access,control panel...). Beyond the technical limitations I wondered too about the Debian's

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] FreedomBox at Software Freedom Day

2011-09-05 Thread John Walsh
Hi Marc, On 11-09-04 at 02:19pm, Marc Manthey wrote: I looked at the http://freedomboxfoundation.org website and i was not able to find any links related to the actual state of the project nor the recommened software hardware pages , whitch i can remember some month before. The

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] FreedomBox at Software Freedom Day

2011-09-05 Thread John Walsh
Hi Jonas, I see little to sell at the current stage, apart from dreams and opportunities to contribute. I find the wiki appropriate for that. I think we need to sell the dream better to draw in more volunteers and donations. It's too confusing now. I remember when I decided I wanted to

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] DHTs and Names

2011-09-03 Thread John Walsh
Hi dkg, Same as 0. not sure what you mean here -- are you saying that your response to this point is the same as your response to point 1 ? if you mean to imply that these two points are the same as each other, i've miscommunicated something; i think they're different. Sorry,

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] DHTs and Names

2011-09-02 Thread John Walsh
Hi Marc, Behalf Of Marc Manthey Do you think human readable names are important to FBX? of course it is !!! who can remind such an adress ? 2001:0:53aa:64c: 0:3ffc:b1cf:75ea People can't remember, which is the reason we have address books for our contacts and bookmarks for

[Freedombox-discuss] Email on the FreedomBox Discussion

2011-08-24 Thread John Walsh
Hi Everybody, bdale dogstar: to me, 'email' means smtp, et al .. however, vasile will attest that I've mentioned several times that to do something truly distributed and secure, we need to think more in terms of messaging other than smtp bdale fiftyfour: configuring an smtp+imap email service

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Email on the FreedomBox Discussion

2011-08-24 Thread John Walsh
Hi Bjarni, First of all, I would be gratefully if somebody could explain how an smtp+imap email service does not align or promote many of the desired attributes of a FBX? I personally would consider a good e-mail, and especially *webmail* experience to be a very valuable addition to

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] DHTs and Names

2011-08-23 Thread John Walsh
Hi Everybody, http://wiki.debian.org/FreedomBox/DistributedNaming. The research on this wiki page is excellent, but I have serious concerns about the following statement: The weakness and centralization/hierarchical structure of the DNS standard call for the adoption in the project of

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] A Simple Server Setup Guide

2011-08-23 Thread John Walsh
Hi Nick, 0: https://bitbucket.org/nickdaly/plugserver/ Excellent documentation. Great structure and well written. Truly impressive. I'm a user and I could understand it ;) -- fiftyfour ___ Freedombox-discuss mailing list

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Identity Management wiki entry

2011-08-16 Thread John Walsh
Hi Melvin, Behalf Of Melvin Carvalho This might be helpful too http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/socialweb/XGR-socialweb-20101206/#Terminolo gy I read the document, only to find I was re-inventing the wheel with my FBX suggestions, sigh :( I liked the documents big picture approach and I

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Identity Management wiki entry

2011-08-16 Thread John Walsh
Hi Melvin, This might be helpful too http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/socialweb/XGR-socialweb-20101206/#Terminolo gy The report from December last year, was several years of study of the identity landscape, invited experts from pretty much every major group had input and gave

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Identity Management wiki entry

2011-08-16 Thread John Walsh
Hi Brandon, I, too, am interested in helping to document the big picture since I probably won't be of much help on the low-level technical details. Perhaps we can start something on the wiki and those with more detailed knowledge in particular areas can help to clarify and fine-tune

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Identity Management wiki entry

2011-08-16 Thread John Walsh
Swift proposes identity management system to banks http://www.computerweekly.com/Articles/2011/08/15/247618/Swift-proposes-iden tity-management-system-to-banks.htm -- fiftyfour ___ Freedombox-discuss mailing list

[Freedombox-discuss] Do we need a UI/UX Expert?

2011-08-12 Thread John Walsh
Hi Everybody, There are a lot of smart people within the project and they have years of experience of using software and social networking sites. The thing that appealed to me about this project was that a) you get hardware like a consumer appliance b) you use existing software. I FreedomBox

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Do we need a UI/UX Expert?

2011-08-12 Thread John Walsh
Hi James, What problems still exist in social networking that we need a UX expert? What do people think? UX is more than just UI and knowing what labels to use. Expertise in this area is a priority. I'm putting the finishing touches on the Working Groups doc this weekend, and the

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] FreedomBox Stack quick question

2011-08-11 Thread John Walsh
Hi Sandy, On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 5:05 PM, John Walsh fiftyf...@waldevin.com wrote: 1) Does this mean each layer is independent of each other? That is the whole point of layers. Applications just use TCP or UDP; they need not care about anything below that. TCP and UDP use IP

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Debian as though cryptographic authentication mattered Questions

2011-08-10 Thread John Walsh
Hi Jonas, And please, someone beautify the project page: http://events.ccc.de/camp/2011/wiki/FreedomBox I updated the project page with the Cow in a Debian Box logo because it was the only image I could find. I also added some FreedomBox blurb. I could only find CSS for the FreedomBox Logo

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] report on activities in Banja Luka

2011-08-10 Thread John Walsh
Hi Bdale, I looked at Buddycloud's website and was surprised to learn that they hope to release next February. That's 7 months away. Why is the project evaluating software that's still in development when there are more *mature* social networking applications such as Friendika,

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] report on activities in Banja Luka

2011-08-10 Thread John Walsh
Hi Jonas, Where did you find that outdated info? I am sitting right now at the Buddycloud village at CCCamp, and am sure they would love to know any miscommunication like that, to be able to correct it. When you click on the sign-up/login button on the home page you are advised that the

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Debian as though cryptographic authentication mattered Questions

2011-08-09 Thread John Walsh
Hi dkg, Thank you for the thought experiment. It helped quite a bit. I still have a few more questions which I hope you can find the time to answer. None of these things requires the use of legal or birth-given names. Thanks for confirming that because the key signing parties how-to required

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Debian as though cryptographic authentication mattered Questions

2011-08-09 Thread John Walsh
Hi Melvin, In general it would be fair to say WebiD has a dependency on DNS but so does email email.  In both systems there are cases where you can work without DNS. You can self sign web server certs. This is what I do. Will WebID client certs work with a web server that has a

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] report on activities in Banja Luka

2011-08-09 Thread John Walsh
Hi Bdale, Thank you and the rest of the team for all your hard work both in developing and promoting the FBX in Banja Luka. quote I've started studying yate as a possible call manager and VoIP server choice with XMPP/jingle support, and we await with great interest a release from the Buddycloud

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Debian as though cryptographic authentication mattered Questions

2011-08-09 Thread John Walsh
Hi Henry, If by clients you mean browsers then current browsers of course will show error messages. DNSSEC and IETF Dane (or something along those lines such as Dan Kaminsky's text proposal) should allow self signed server certs to be deployed that should allow browser not to show such

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Debian as though cryptographic authentication mattered Questions

2011-08-08 Thread John Walsh
Hi Melvin, My solution to this is to use the same RSA key for both my WebID and my OpenPGP key. Is an RSA key a self-signed key for WebID and an OpenPGP key? It's often seen as an either/or choice by people not familiar with one or the other, but I think both approaches have something

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Persistent Personal Names for Globally Connected Mobile Devices

2011-08-07 Thread John Walsh
-Original Message- From: freedombox-discuss-bounces+fiftyfour=waldevin.com@lists.alioth .debian.org [mailto:freedombox-discuss-bounces+fiftyfour=waldevin.com@list s.alioth.debian.org] On Behalf Of Sandy Harris Sent: Tuesday, 12 July 2011 9:56 AM To:

[Freedombox-discuss] Debian as though cryptographic authentication mattered Questions

2011-08-05 Thread John Walsh
Hi Everybody, First of all a hat tip to dkg for an excellent presentation. You made crypto so interesting to me, a user, that I jumped on to Wikipedia to find out more. Needless to say I have a few questions about crypto, but hopefully in asking these questions you will see the stumbling blocks in

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Distributed Naming BOF Questions

2011-08-04 Thread John Walsh
Hi dkg Thanks for taking the time to give such a comprehensive answer with links :) Eager to learn I agree it's a good idea to be able to use the existing DNS for ease of transition; that doesn't mean that i think the existing DNS is decentralized :( I think now, decentralised was a poor

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] FreedomBox Conspiracy Theory

2011-07-25 Thread John Walsh
Hi Stef, Behalf Of Stefano Maffulli My suggestion is to hang in there, stay calm, read and write your thoughts in an civil manner. Time will also help clear the landscape. Thank you for your words of encouragement. Stay tuned for news from DebConf, you'll be able to follow the talks

[Freedombox-discuss] FreedomBox Conspiracy Theory

2011-07-22 Thread John Walsh
Hi Everybody, There has been been a lot of heated and name calling on the mailing list recently; quote On 11-07-21 at 05:38pm, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: this is a complex project WHERE THE REQUIRED SOFTWARE DOESN'T EXIST. have i said it enough times, you think?? Yes. One time was

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] http://politics.slashdot.org/story/11/07/18/0153204/Security-Consultants-Wa rn-About-PROTECT-IP-Act

2011-07-20 Thread John Walsh
Hi Bert, Ian and James, One ideal for the FreedomBox is that it be self hosting. All the servers it relies on should be other FreedomBoxes. That's a lofty goal, though, and it would take a *lot* of time to make +1 But then, how would the freedombox interconnect to each others? How

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Working Groups

2011-07-20 Thread John Walsh
Hi Everybody, FBX is my first Debian project and I am more than happy to use the Debian infrastructure (mailing list, wiki) because I trust the processes are well tuned by now. Still, as a Debian project newbie could somebody explain/provide a link to the Debian processes in the context of a

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] http://politics.slashdot.org/story/11/07/18/0153204/Security-Consultants-Wa rn-About-PROTECT-IP-Act

2011-07-19 Thread John Walsh
Hi Ted, I am expressing my personal opinion and do not speak for FBF. I think that the mistake being made most on this mailing list is the tendency to devise solutions to complicated problems. Sadly, this is just not a thing that can be done on a mailing list. If the FreedomBox project

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Friendika

2011-07-19 Thread John Walsh
Hi James, This looks like an interesting approach. Has anybody used it/hacked it/loved it/hated it? Is this something you want to see in the FreedomBox? http://project.friendika.com/ I have used Friendika. What I like Distributed Social Network software. Create multiple profiles for

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Working Groups

2011-07-19 Thread John Walsh
Hi James, I am not proposing any new groups, but my comments below have suggested some additional goals and shifting some goals between the groups. ## UI / UX / HID +1 to help. At this stage it's a see how she goes commitment because I'm not sure if I can contribute, but happy to test at a

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] NAME issue!

2011-07-19 Thread John Walsh
If you can, stick with the FreedomBox name because so much time, energy and dare I say it branding have been spent on getting that name out there. If you have to go with a name change, change names quickly to get the new name out. Please pick an innocent sounding name like FBX. I don't really

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Updated home page

2011-07-07 Thread John Walsh
s.alioth.debian.org] On Behalf Of Stefano Maffulli Feedback and code appreciated http://freedomboxfoundation.org /stef I have to scroll horizontally to see the home page on my netbook :( ___ Freedombox-discuss mailing list

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Relationship driven privacy

2011-07-07 Thread John Walsh
Hi Mike and Everybody Friendika was mentioned in this thread but in a different context, so I wanted to point out what we do for profile personas. There may be some ideas you can use. It's a distributed system, but has multiple profiles. You can tailor any profile for any person or

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Relationship driven privacy

2011-07-03 Thread John Walsh
Hi Tony, -Original Message- From: apgodsh...@gmail.com [mailto:apgodsh...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Tony Godshall Sent: Sunday, 3 July 2011 2:04 AM To: fiftyf...@waldevin.com Cc: freedombox-discuss@lists.alioth.debian.org Subject: Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Relationship driven

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Relationship driven privacy

2011-07-02 Thread John Walsh
From: J David Eisenberg [mailto:jdavid.eisenb...@gmail.com] You might also want to investigate Friendika (1); I'm running a Friendika server (2), and it also allows groups, though I haven't worked with them extensively. The Friendika protocol is documented and in the public domain (3)

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Relationship driven privacy

2011-07-02 Thread John Walsh
Behalf Of Marc Manthey At the time you friend (connect) a profile instead of Accept you must choose a relationship(s) (sibling, parent, etc.) or Ignore. The same as facebook this relationship selection remains private. These relationships can be based on XFN(1). This minimises

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Relationship driven privacy

2011-07-02 Thread John Walsh
Behalf Of Tony Godshall ... The same principle exist between a reporter and a whistleblower. The pseudonymity article suggests the technology exists to protect freedom fighters through unlinkable pseudonyms. It's important, I think, to be able to extend the web of trust to

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] article on Google+

2011-06-29 Thread John Walsh
Here is an article on upcoming social networking enhancements to Google, called Google+. Inspirational for conceptual (and, if web-based, interface) design, and scary in other aspects. http://arstechnica.com/web/news/2011/06/inside-google-how-the- search-giant-plans-to-go-social.ars

[Freedombox-discuss] Lessons from a FreedomBox alternative - Tonido

2011-06-26 Thread John Walsh
Hi, Tonido has been around a few years and have similar ambitions to FreedomBox. I hope my observations as a Tonido user will help FreedomBox avoid Tonido's mistakes. Basically my setup is that I have 3 PC's behind a router with built-in firewall/SPI features. Each PC has Tonido installed, each

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Lessons from a FreedomBox alternative - Tonido

2011-06-26 Thread John Walsh
Hi Sebastien, This is my first reply to a mailing-list, so please forgive me if this goes wrong. Hello everybody, On 26/06/11 11:23, Bob Mottram wrote: On Sun, 26 Jun 2011 22:29:33 +1000, John Walsh wrote: My hope is that the FreedomBox designers take the time to get right port

[Freedombox-discuss] Objectives

2011-06-25 Thread John Walsh
Hi, This is my first post to any mailing list so if I say/do anything wrong please forgive me. I am really excited about the promise of freedombox and I hope it realises its full potential. Unfortunately, I am only a user so my opinions will probably not carry much weight, but I hope you at