Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Software as Data, Transformation as a Service

2013-01-09 Thread Michael Rogers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/01/13 17:53, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: There is a (rough) openpgp2x509 perl script in the monkeysphere msva-perl git repo (not yet released as part of the msva-perl distribution). I'd be happy to answer questions about it, and do get

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Software as Data, Transformation as a Service

2013-01-09 Thread Nick Daly
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 9:48 AM, Michael Rogers mich...@briarproject.org wrote: But I have to admit that I can't think of a way for the endpoints to signal to each other that OpenPGP keys should be used to authenticate the connection, without signalling the same to an eavesdropper. Any

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Software as Data, Transformation as a Service

2013-01-08 Thread Nick M. Daly
Spinning up a way-overdue discussion again. Sorry for the gravedigging, but this is good stuff. Melvin Carvalho writes: On 1 November 2012 18:44, Nick M. Daly nick.m.d...@gmail.com wrote: Melvin Carvalho melvincarva...@gmail.com writes: I think in the case of freedombox it would be

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Software as Data, Transformation as a Service

2013-01-08 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
On 01/08/2013 08:43 AM, Nick M. Daly wrote: Melvin Carvalho writes: 1. Converting GPG keys with X.509 using bouncy castle (have some rough code working) Have you made any progress on this? How does this tie in with Monkeysphere? I thought they were working on something similar, but

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Software as Data, Transformation as a Service

2013-01-08 Thread Melvin Carvalho
On 8 January 2013 14:43, Nick M. Daly nick.m.d...@gmail.com wrote: Spinning up a way-overdue discussion again. Sorry for the gravedigging, but this is good stuff. Melvin Carvalho writes: On 1 November 2012 18:44, Nick M. Daly nick.m.d...@gmail.com wrote: Melvin Carvalho

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Software as Data, Transformation as a Service

2012-11-06 Thread Melvin Carvalho
On 1 November 2012 18:44, Nick M. Daly nick.m.d...@gmail.com wrote: Melvin Carvalho melvincarva...@gmail.com writes: I think in the case of freedombox it would be desireable to have not only a web identity but to tie it to GPG, which is something I've already done some work on. Would

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Software as Data, Transformation as a Service

2012-11-06 Thread Dr. Daniel Alexander Smith
On 6 Nov 2012, at 11:31, Melvin Carvalho melvincarva...@gmail.com wrote: On 1 November 2012 16:07, Dr. Daniel Alexander Smith d...@ecs.soton.ac.uk wrote: On 1 Nov 2012, at 14:45, Melvin Carvalho melvincarva...@gmail.com wrote: Just touching base on this. We just spent 3 very

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Software as Data, Transformation as a Service

2012-11-01 Thread Melvin Carvalho
On 6 September 2012 02:18, Dr. Daniel Alexander Smith d...@ecs.soton.ac.ukwrote: On 14 Aug 2012, at 16:35, Nick M. Daly nick.m.d...@gmail.com wrote: In short: we have several groups of folks working on problems of standardized, distributed, and data-centric applications. Why aren't we

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Software as Data, Transformation as a Service

2012-11-01 Thread Dr. Daniel Alexander Smith
On 1 Nov 2012, at 14:45, Melvin Carvalho melvincarva...@gmail.com wrote: Just touching base on this. We just spent 3 very productive days at TPAC with, among others, timbl and alex bertalis, who reliably informs us that he coined the term WebBox. I was wondering your thoughts about

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Software as Data, Transformation as a Service

2012-11-01 Thread Michiel de Jong
Hi! sorry, hadn't noticed this thread before. On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 2:18 AM, Dr. Daniel Alexander Smith d...@ecs.soton.ac.uk wrote: I am indeed the main developer on WebBox. Since the original e-mail I've looked into the other software, and have started on developing compatibility with

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Software as Data, Transformation as a Service

2012-11-01 Thread Nick M. Daly
Melvin Carvalho melvincarva...@gmail.com writes: I think in the case of freedombox it would be desireable to have not only a web identity but to tie it to GPG, which is something I've already done some work on. Would you mind describing that a bit? FBuddy [0] is designed to make (PGP-)

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Software as Data, Transformation as a Service

2012-09-06 Thread Melvin Carvalho
On 6 September 2012 02:18, Dr. Daniel Alexander Smith d...@ecs.soton.ac.ukwrote: On 14 Aug 2012, at 16:35, Nick M. Daly nick.m.d...@gmail.com wrote: In short: we have several groups of folks working on problems of standardized, distributed, and data-centric applications. Why aren't we

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Software as Data, Transformation as a Service

2012-09-05 Thread Dr. Daniel Alexander Smith
On 14 Aug 2012, at 16:35, Nick M. Daly nick.m.d...@gmail.com wrote: In short: we have several groups of folks working on problems of standardized, distributed, and data-centric applications. Why aren't we cooperating, or at least communicating, about our problems and observations?

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Software as Data, Transformation as a Service

2012-08-15 Thread John Gilmore
Lionel Dricot [0], Dr. Daniel Smith [1, 2], Michiel de Jong [3], Mike Macgirvin [4], and Markus Sabadello [5] seem to have come to similar conclusions: having a bunch of semi-interoperable applications that do the same thing but don't share their data is wasted effort and added complexity

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Software as Data, Transformation as a Service

2012-08-15 Thread Melvin Carvalho
On 14 August 2012 17:35, Nick M. Daly nick.m.d...@gmail.com wrote: In short: we have several groups of folks working on problems of standardized, distributed, and data-centric applications. Why aren't we cooperating, or at least communicating, about our problems and observations?

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Software as Data, Transformation as a Service

2012-08-15 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message - From: John Gilmore g...@toad.com To: Nick M. Daly nick.m.d...@gmail.com Cc: freedombox list freedombox-discuss@lists.alioth.debian.org; pl...@ploum.net; m...@macgirvin.com Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 3:47 AM Subject: Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Software

[Freedombox-discuss] Software as Data, Transformation as a Service

2012-08-14 Thread Nick M . Daly
In short: we have several groups of folks working on problems of standardized, distributed, and data-centric applications. Why aren't we cooperating, or at least communicating, about our problems and observations? Lionel Dricot [0], Dr. Daniel Smith [1, 2], Michiel de Jong [3], Mike