Re: [Fsf-Debian] Who gets to say what the definition of “Debian” is?

2012-08-05 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Sun, Aug 05, 2012 at 11:10:39PM +1000, Ben Finney wrote: Michael Gilbert mgilb...@debian.org writes: Actually, only Debian main is intended to be 100% dfsg-free software. Intended by who? Not by someone who agrees with the Debian project's social contract: 1. Debian Will

Re: [Fsf-Debian] No response?

2012-08-05 Thread Ben Finney
Bryan Baldwin br...@katofiad.co.nz writes: I understand that Debian has a fully functional fully free subset of the system. The fully functional, fully-free system is identical with Debian. This is because that is the *definition* of Debian, as defined by the Debian project in their founding

Re: [Fsf-Debian] No response?

2012-08-05 Thread Ben Finney
Bryan Baldwin br...@katofiad.co.nz writes: Taking ownership means stating plainly and publicly that contrib and nonfree are part of Debian. That would be the lie. They are not part of Debian. Whether you mean the project, the system, the distribution, or any other possible subdivisions and

Re: [Fsf-Debian] No response?

2012-08-05 Thread Clint Adams
On Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 01:40:31PM +1000, Ben Finney wrote: That would be the lie. They are not part of Debian. http://bugs.debian.org/zangband http://packages.debian.org/zangband http://packages.qa.debian.org/z/zangband.html https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=zangband Do you

Re: [Fsf-Debian] No response?

2012-08-05 Thread Ben Finney
Clint Adams cl...@debian.org writes: On Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 01:40:31PM +1000, Ben Finney wrote: [The Debian project claiming that ‘contrib’ and ‘non-free’ are part of Debian] would be the lie. They are not part of Debian. Do you understand how a sane and honest person might disagree with