[Fsf-Debian] A small thought on how Debian might be able to help.

2014-09-05 Thread Brian Gupta
Debian Developers are employed at a wide variety of companies, some of which ship products that depend on proprietary firmware blobs. I'm wondering if there is any sense talking to some of these project members to gain at least an understanding of why certain firmware can't be freed. Intel comes

Re: [Fsf-Debian] A small thought on how Debian might be able to help.

2014-09-05 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
On 09/05/2014 12:32 PM, Brian Gupta wrote: As an aside, how are certain wifi chipsets FSF blessed? Is it because they keep any firmware on non-volatile storage (meaning no blobs have to be delivered by OS) and not field upgradable, or is it because they somehow provide sourcecode for the

Re: [Fsf-Debian] A small thought on how Debian might be able to help.

2014-09-05 Thread John Sullivan
Daniel Kahn Gillmor d...@fifthhorseman.net writes: On 09/05/2014 12:32 PM, Brian Gupta wrote: As an aside, how are certain wifi chipsets FSF blessed? Is it because they keep any firmware on non-volatile storage (meaning no blobs have to be delivered by OS) and not field upgradable, or is it

Re: [Fsf-Debian] A small thought on how Debian might be able to help.

2014-09-05 Thread Michał Masłowski
I'm wondering if there is any sense talking to some of these project members to gain at least an understanding of why certain firmware can't be freed. Intel comes to mind with the wifi firmware, and CPU microcode. Such companies are known to use debunked arguments like FCC regulations for