Hello, joe!
Anyway, you can specify an unlimited amount of non-proxied servers in
autoconfiguration script. More, you may modify autoconfig rules as
frequently as needed, or even do it automatically.
Agreed. But if the idea is to protect your internal clients from your
intranet web servers, the
Hi,
Agreed. But if the idea is to protect your internal clients from your
intranet web servers, the proxy isn't doing much for you. Plus again,
someone can just configure their machine to not use the proxy as mentioned
previously. If the machines are available on the public intranet without
- Original Message -
From: Phillip R. Paradis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'devis' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2004 6:51 PM
Subject: RE: [Full-Disclosure] IE is just as safe as FireFox
Nice ...fresh from the oven too. This, if it works, should be a
Nice ...fresh from the oven too. This, if it works, should be a
'extremely critical' update from Ms.
Wouldn't such a tool be of limited utility, given that the
unpriviliged
application's windows are on the same desktop as, and can
therefore send
messages to, windows belonging to
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Interesting tool to downsize rights when logged on as Administrator
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http://msdn.microsoft.com/security/securecode/columns/default.aspx?p
ull=/library/en-us/dncode/html/secure11152004.asp
Nice ...fresh from
FYI. This is just one of the many items currently in the oven that I was
alluding to previously. Of course some people will take this and complain
that people shouldn't be running as admins in the first place (to which I
agree) but prior to complaining about it, hold tight and watch for what else
Excuse me, but i won't join and rejoice. Until, as i have posted on this
list elsewhere, this item makes it further than the obscure devel / kb
article but gets actually pulled as a critical security update and the
'linking/shortcut' procedure automatised for key components /
applications in
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Interesting tool to downsize rights when logged on as Administrator
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http://msdn.microsoft.com/security/securecode/columns/default.aspx?p
ull=/library/en-us/dncode/html/secure11152004.asp
My favourite part is the sample directory used by Microsoft:
either use sudo or su to do work as root, but Windows doesn't
make users
the admin by default *either*, unless you setup Fast User Switching
*during* the install.
Windows XP doesn't allow that to be selected during installation. It is
activated or not based on available system memory
Hello, joe!
Autoconfig script may enumerate hosts which don't require a proxy.
Usually there are a very few intranet servers in corporate network.
You should have prefixed there are very few... with one of two things
1. Relative to the internet...
2. In my experience...
I said usually. What's a
On Fri, Nov 19, 2004 at 11:50:33AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Linux integration: Tools register themselves as optional add-ons to add new
or extended functionality. If the tool isn't there, all that happens is the
menu items *for that added function* end up greyed out or don't show up,
devis wrote:
Please run some unix or at least read about the unix permission system,
and lets pray god this sheds some light in your mono cultured brains.
Here are the relevant points:
1) Despite recent ameliorations of MS ( multi user finally, permissions
... ) and some effort at making the
Very True, not to talk about all the apps that won't run correctly in
Windows because of non-admin rights. Should we all have to give
premissions to special reg keys just to have a app run as a non-admin? I
mean come on...you give us a so called security feature (Run As) and
then it is only
True goal is making as much money and influence as possible.
Please read my previous posts on this list regarding that matter.
This is why, Firefox being independant from this OS that carries 60
of its code base as being legacy code for older system hardware and
The Mozilla Suite (and Firefox)
Todd Towles wrote:
Windows doesn't tell you about the Admin account and makes the default
user a Admin. That isn't best method as you know.
RunAs is great..but that is only good once you create a normal user -
and then delete your new default user. Or you log in in Administrator
and take away
Well Done. I did myself start to spend more time explaining what i
before thought users couldn't comprehend and i have achieved surprising
results.
No, they won't suddenly change, but at least it has saved me from re
doing the same thing over and over again. They do listen. They do not
want
joe wrote:
Anyway, the base cause is a simple one, Windows is consumer based and *nix
wasn't and really still isn't. Look at the market penetrations. *nix tends
to have people already knowledgeable with its workings or people who WANT to
learn the details using it,
Well, Mac OSX is a fully
LOL, ok you have me on that one. It is something, but very little. :oD
Joe
--
Pro-Choice
Let me choose if I even want a browser loaded thanks!
-Original Message-
From: Frank Knobbe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 11:54 AM
To: joe
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OSX is an interesting case but at the moment it is still an infant. I look
forward to seeing what happens with it as you are correct, it is very
consumer oriented. To put it another way, it is a chance for *nix to show
off its normal user wings if it has any. People who would get off Windows
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of RandallM The question above is answered IMHO as yes. Any one
who admins
or is a PC support person would have to agree. Come'on, if you
change their monitor they freak out that there folders are now
gone!
Absolutely. One bank
I seemed to have struck a nerve here Maurizio. I have to say, nothing you
have written here has particularly enhanced my concept of the the MCSE
program.
There are specific MVPs who certainly are cheerleaders but that has nothing
to do with them being MVPs nor the general state of the MVP
On Sat, Nov 20, 2004 at 06:06:10PM -0500, Micheal Espinola Jr wrote:
Your accusations again joe's expertise and knowledge in this area are
completely unsubstantiated.
i have not seen any proofs of joe's expertise or knowledge - can you give
some proofs?
for me joe is just a chatterbox in bed
Anyone know how many cents of MSFT valuation are a direct result of and
attributable to MVPs?
I was lucky... I escaped before anyone threatened to make me into an MVP.
-Original Message-
From: Georgi Guninski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 22:01:12
To:Micheal Espinola Jr
That sentiment is particularly humorous coming from you...
-ASB
On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 22:01:12 +0200, Georgi Guninski
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Nov 20, 2004 at 06:06:10PM -0500, Micheal Espinola Jr wrote:
Your accusations again joe's expertise and knowledge in this area are
completely
Ah, nostalgia...
I have appropriately suppressed many of my memories in this regard.
-ASB
On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 12:22:24 -0500, joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of RandallM The question above is answered IMHO as yes. Any one
who
Georgi,
The may sound harsh, but the day I worry about proving my anything to you is
the day after I decide to get the MCSE certification.
Further, if I ever get to the point about worrying what you think, I will
have to hang my 0 and 1 bits on the rack.
joe
-Original Message-
Hey Guys this is reallly getting on to ur egoes. loyality pays
royality at times.after all we all play with what pays. its high time
we realise most of the vendor certifications are over rated and dnt
guarantee the depth of knowledge. The HR people are a real piece of
morons all over if atall
--On Friday, November 19, 2004 01:12:31 PM -0500 Crotty, Edward
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm not a Win based guy (troll?) - Un*x here - and even I was offended by
#1.
There is such a thing as runas for Windows.
That's not all.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL
On 19 Nov 2004, at 18:40, Jeremy Davis wrote:
Are you able to change root's name in nix?
Sure. There's no reason why not.
Why not if the answer is no?
(Things would break right? UID 0?) Knowing the account name is
two-thirds of the battle.
A much better system is to have root's password unset
Dude, mplayer2 rulez!! I use it to play all sorts of things. =) I'm
glad they left it there... the newer MS media player is just bloat.
Media Player Classic (that comes with RealAlternative and QuickTime
Alternative) is another one of my favs. =D
Yeah, not really anything to do with the topic,
Well if hacking Windows cold across a tcp/ip service such as web this may be
helpful, but it doesn't require much more than that to figure out what the
admin account is for a given machine.
joe
--
Pro-Choice
Let me choose if I even want a browser loaded thanks!
-Original Message-
Devis:
I guess you probably mean me. I don't take offense to it though as you
aren't really technically correct but I understand where you are trying to
come from (I think) and trust that you believe what you say versus just
being a zealot and thinking anything but Windows.
1. The first account
I agree with your initial comment, they can both be changed. I also agree
they both do little.
I don't agree that the hardcoding in the source does anything for you.
--
Pro-Choice
Let me choose if I even want a browser loaded thanks!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 15/11/2004, at 22:50, Stuart Fox ((DSL AK)) wrote:
Can the Firefox settings be controlled centrally?
Yes, and more flexible than IE versions zoo at user computers.
Download
a Firefox ZIP (not Firefox_Setup_1.0.exe but Firefox 1.0.zip), unpack
it
to R/O share on file server, edit JS
I think if the main design of any system was run as mortal and do runas for
things that need more, you would have a system that by default, NEVER
allowed interactive logon to an account that does more. Further it wouldn't
let you change that code to allow it. Heck I would even take it further and
On Sat, 2004-11-20 at 08:20, joe wrote:
I agree with your initial comment, they can both be changed. I also agree
they both do little.
I don't agree that the hardcoding in the source does anything for you.
Well, it *allows* you to change the ID of the superuser account to
something else.
If you are on the box, having changed the name of the Admin is useless.
Naming doesn't safe you from a lot...a simple registry pull in Windows
will get you all the hashed passwords.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Jeremy Davis
This is true. It will also play many other types of files (with
something like ffdshow) that WMP 9/10 can, although it will do so with
about have the memory footprint and start twice as fast. Gotta love
upgrades. =/
I moved more to BS Player, as it's pretty quick and comes with all the
bells and
Vincent Archer wrote:
Other apps flatly refuse to work with anything but IE. None of these
are strictly web applications anymore - they are applications that use
an UI processor, which happens to be the HTML processor as well.
You see, this is precisely the problem.
HTML processors in web
Ohh don't worry I am not knocking it. The 6.4 version will play some of
those AVI files that the version 9 and 10 won't play because of codec
stuff, kinda of funny. =)
-Original Message-
From: GuidoZ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 1:15 AM
To: Todd Towles
joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[1] Don't get me started on MCSEs. As a whole I
think they hurt Windows far
more than any other thing. A bunch of people who
feel they are experts in
Windows because they took a couple of tests that 10
year olds could memorize
and pass and yet still not be able to
I use WinAmp for Music and the Microsoft stuff for Video...I don't do a
lot of video stuff. The lastest Winamp is pretty nice. I can always
stream shoutcast or video to my XBOX so..lol
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From: GuidoZ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 3:03 PM
Neither viewpoint is 100%. But, over-all I would have to agree with
joe. MCSE's (in my experience) are typically not worth the credit
[automatically] applied to them - not unless they have the experience
to back it.
That is of course true for any certification in any industry. MCSE's
are easy
Paul Schmehl wrote:
--On Friday, November 19, 2004 01:12:31 PM -0500 Crotty, Edward
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm not a Win based guy (troll?) - Un*x here - and even I was
offended by
#1.
There is such a thing as runas for Windows.
That's not all.
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From: [EMAIL
Its not because it has a great market 'penetration' in the 'real' world
that it isn't wrong. Not saying it was wrong before...but nowadays...we
know better than DOS, don't we ? Lets not go into the argument NT isn't
DOS etc etc ...please.
So even if the world IT computing economy is standing on
Hello, Danny!
This makes sense now, thanks Raoul!
One more question: to make things more secure, do you have any tips on
what settings to change in the firefox.js file? It's contains a lot of
info. :)
Very usable references here:
http://thegoldenear.org/toolbox/windows/docs/mozilla-pre-config.html
Hello, Esmond!
Offline folders work as well as roaming profiles do : nice fast networks
and low overhead/beefy servers work well, odd things happen if you have
impatient users with laptops, wireless etc. Sometimes its simply easier
to have a scheduled task sync files to a local folder. This will
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Could you please define integrated? English isn't my primary
language...
Integrated is similar to saying is part of or united. For future
reference (and more info), Google can also be extremely handy in such
a case. Doing a Google search for:
:-D
In my opinion, there are two defintions for integrated. For most
people, it means a works with b. For Microsoft, it means a can
not work without b. Firefox is definitelyl the former because I use
it both under Linux and under Windows, and I'm trying to get it to
work on my Zaurus.
On Fri, 19
Autoconfig script may enumerate hosts which don't require a proxy.
Usually there are a very few intranet servers in corporate network.
You should have prefixed there are very few... with one of two things
1. Relative to the internet...
2. In my experience...
I have been on several large
On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 13:57:31 +0100, Borja Marcos said:
Given that Firefox is integrated in Linux... ¿Will I be able to use
Linux wthout Firefox? Or, ¿is Firefox an operating system module? Being
Hint: Linux is over 10 years old, and FireFox just came out. What did Linux
do before FF
Georgi, you obviously aren't in touch with the real world if you don't
realize which OS and browser comprise a vast majority of the market. That
penetration often dictates for many IT professionals which OS they will be
working on if they actually choose to work in the field. When you specify
our
This message is primarily destined to all MS trolls, no matter their
levels, and i can see so many in this list that i am happy to target a
large audience.
Please run some unix or at least read about the unix permission system,
and lets pray god this sheds some light in your mono cultured
On Fri, Nov 19, 2004 at 10:51:43AM -0500, joe wrote:
Autoconfig script may enumerate hosts which don't require a proxy.
Usually there are a very few intranet servers in corporate network.
You should have prefixed there are very few... with one of two things
1. Relative to the
I'm not a Win based guy (troll?) - Un*x here - and even I was offended by #1.
There is such a thing as runas for Windows.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of devis
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 11:10 AM
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [in]
Windows doesn't tell you about the Admin account and makes the default
user a Admin. That isn't best method as you know.
RunAs is great..but that is only good once you create a normal user -
and then delete your new default user. Or you log in in Administrator
and take away the full control of
dear j0e,
all i wanted to say is that there are minorities in the real world, who don't
load a browser or even graphics and they don't need anyone to let them.
i believe these minorities in real world can do more things than the
windoze lusers (whose main purpose is to be free shell providers),
Microsoft integration: You remove the application that plays
MPEG movies from a system that has never needed to play MPEG
movies, and never will need to - and your system won't boot anymore.
Example - Anyone with XP, do a search for mplayer2.exe? What is this
you ask? It is media player 6.4
On 19 Nov 2004, at 08:35, Xavier Beaudouin wrote:
Thanks. I thought that it had more meanings :-D
Given that Firefox is integrated in Linux...
It isn't.
...
Result : Firefox is not integrated in Linux, it is a third party
software as /bin/bash or whatever that is given as a giveaway on
On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 13:12:31 EST, Crotty, Edward said:
I'm not a Win based guy (troll?) - Un*x here - and even I was offended by #1.
There is such a thing as runas for Windows.
Yes, but is *the main design* of the system run as a mortal, and use
the 'runas' for those things that need more?
Dear Joe,
So many out there use MS OS doesnt make it the best just as so many
people go to McDonalds doesnt mean they make the best food
--
(FROM LINKS TO LINKS WE ARE ALL LINKED)
cheers.
morris
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Andrew Farmer wrote:
In fact, I'm not so sure it's even a component of Nautilus. Is this a
recent change?
Nope - it depends on how you install Nautilus, though. I know that on a
number of RH systems I've had to configure lately, Mozilla is a
dependancy (not firefox) because Nautilus seems to
On Fri, 2004-11-19 at 20:40, Jeremy Davis wrote:
Are you able to change root's name in nix? Why not if the answer is no?
(Things would break right? UID 0?) Knowing the account name is
two-thirds of the battle.
In windows it's fairly easy to change the admin name.
Not a professional here just
I 100% agree with you. I never said MS was the best or even that they should
always be used. In fact in many occasions I have pushed for alternative
answers for companies who were customers.
Being the best or even better doesn't mean you will become the most popular
either. Look at Apple. Look
On Wed, Nov 17, 2004 at 09:22:33PM -0500, joe wrote:
Pro-Choice
Let me choose if I even want a browser loaded thanks!
what the fuck is this?
we can chose such things on our os, who must let you choose?
--
where do you want bill gates to go today?
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Why is it that Microsoft's code has less quality even though all code
that's
written is instantly audited? (Each line of code is checked before it's
'passed' in to the code tree.)
Design, design and design. Also, design.
Writing programs isn't a
Hello, Danny!
So when you run the Firefox setup/installer, do you direct the
installation to \\server\firefox, and then once installed, you modify
only the two files Stuart Fox mentions?
Read my first message in this topic. I don't run Firefox installer at
all, on both workstation and server. I
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However Mozilla in Linux is integrated at some level...so they are
just the
same as I.E.
Could you please define integrated? English isn't my primary
language...
Borja.
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Borja
In case no one else helped you with this, allow me to try. =)
Could you please define integrated? English isn't my primary language...
Integrated is similar to saying is part of or united. For future
reference (and more info), Google can also be extremely handy in such
a case. Doing a Google
I recently spoke with some MS Security Execs and I know they wouldn't argue
with this point. They know they have to improve and are working hard to do
so. It would have been nice had they started this work 10 years or more ago
but thankfully they have started now.
Someone asked me to describe
Well MS isn't about to produce code to configure MAC's and other OSs,
wouldn't you say that makes sense? They certainly aren't the experts in
writing code for controlling those platforms and I don't see why they would
want to.
On the flip side there are other companies doing so. Take a look at
So are you saying you truly believe IE to be an integral part of the OS that
without it the OS would not be useable or would fail entirely and believe MS
implicitly or are you just trying to be a sassy PITA?
--
Pro-Choice
Let me choose if I even want a browser loaded thanks!
-Original
I would rather not get too deep into this. But I think you are mixing the
ideas of good code with good documentation or possibly with good hard design
specs.
In any project there are going to be things that aren't specifically
specified in the design that some other module could possibly take
Ah thanks, that answers my question. :o)
On the MS defender comment. Well I can't say much other than not everyone
thinks that a company is entirely good or entirely bad. I have a more
granular outlook on things. Some things are done well, some things aren't.
That applies to all OSes. None of
I presume he's talking about this one:
Programs that connect to IP addresses that are in the loopback address
range may not work as you expect in Windows XP Service Pack 2
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=884020
Cheers,
Phil
Phil Randal
Network Engineer
Herefordshire Council
OPENSTEP's Mach/BSD amalgam is the basis for Apple's Mac OS X
operating system.
Is that BSD in there? Ummm...
Apple took over OPENSTEP, no wonder they selected NextStep.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:
I believe it says The BSD layer is based on the BSD kernel, primarily
FreeBSD. It does not says the OSX kernel.
peep developer.apple.com if you really don't believe me ;-) it's a
tad more reliable then wikipedia
-JxT
On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 11:41:35 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I agree with you, maybe good coding was the wrong word. But you got the
idea.
IE isn't part of the OS in Microsoft mind...but it is in the customers.
You get a new computer and you hear on the TV, not to use IE...because
it has holes. A good customer does the right thing and gets another
browser
Darwin and BSD...Darwin is the open source kernel that OS X uses...=)
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JxT
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 7:45 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [in] Re:
On Tue, 16 Nov 2004, JxT wrote:
I believe it says The BSD layer is based on the BSD kernel, primarily
FreeBSD. It does not says the OSX kernel.
peep developer.apple.com if you really don't believe me ;-) it's a
tad more reliable then wikipedia
For those interested in technical details, there's a
It doesn'tI was responding to another off-topic message. But they
again, how many messages on FD same on topic for more than 10 messages.
=)
Who do you think posted the original IE is just as safe as FireFox
message? ;)
So what did you message add to the subject? Other than telling me it was
On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 09:07:56 -0600, Todd Towles
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Darwin and BSD...Darwin is the open source kernel that OS X uses...=)
What does this have to do with IE and Firefox, again?
...D
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Charter:
On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 10:33:26 -0600, Todd Towles
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It doesn'tI was responding to another off-topic message. But they
again, how many messages on FD same on topic for more than 10 messages.
=)
Fair enough
Who do you think posted the original IE is just as safe as
Stuart Fox (DSL AK) wrote:
Re: [Full-Disclosure] IE is just as safe as FireFox
Can the Firefox settings be controlled centrally?
Yes, and more flexible than IE versions zoo at user computers.
Download
a Firefox ZIP (not Firefox_Setup_1.0.exe but Firefox 1.0.zip),
unpack it
to
Well, I didn't say it was their Legal position..and they was just their
cope out...they know they made it embedded and they know it doesn't have
to be embedded...
Do you truthly believe the MS legel position? ;)
-Original Message-
From: Gary E. Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, November 15, 2004 11:25 am, joe said:
Everytime a Firefox exploit comes out..there is already a fix...
is that magic? No..it is good coding...
Having a quick fix out is due to low complexity of issue and assisted by a
lack of dependencies so you have reduced time for patching and
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Yo Todd!
On Tue, 16 Nov 2004, Todd Towles wrote:
IE isn't part of the OS in Microsoft mind...but it is in the customers.
I suggest you re-read about the M$ anti-trust trial. This was certainly
NOT the M$ legal positiion.
RGDS
GARY
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Title: RE: [Full-Disclosure] IE is just as safe as FireFox
Unfortunatly, ms group policy do not handle mac, solaris, linux, ...
only ms toys can be configured using this. I also think it is somewhat
new and will probably be old (why don't you use this miracle ms tool
named: sorry, this
Yes perhaps I'm being a little close minded.
I know that WFP can be switched off and all that, but this is real life. We
don't have the luxury of 1 single domain controlling all our clients, we
are talking multiple NT/2000/2003 domains, multiple OS's, multiple Admins.
I am complaining (more the
- Original Message -
From: Curt Purdy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2004 11:59 PM
Subject: RE: [in] Re: [Full-Disclosure] IE is just as safe as FireFox
Upgrade W2K to XP? I call that a downgrade! I won't
Hello, Curt Purdy!
Upgrade W2K to XP? I call that a downgrade! I won't allow XP (sp2 or not)
on my network.
Agreed, I feel 2K to be more reliable than XP too. But mainly this is
only my feeling, could you explain and prove it by more solid arguments
than feelings?
--
Best regards,
Raoul
Hello, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Can the Firefox settings be controlled centrally?
Yes, and more flexible than IE versions zoo at user computers. Download
a Firefox ZIP (not Firefox_Setup_1.0.exe but Firefox 1.0.zip), unpack it
to R/O share on file server, edit JS configuration files in
.\defaults\pref
I think that this corporate policy will have far more impact on your company
than on Microsoft. As more and more people and companies deploy XP2, it
makes me wonder if you should just consider leaving the Microsoft market
entirely.
As to why it isn't on Windows Update... I would guess that is
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:full-disclosure-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ag. System Administrator
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2004 7:47 AM
To: Rafel Ivgi, The-Insider
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [in] Re: [Full-Disclosure] IE is just as safe as
Everytime a Firefox exploit comes out..there is already a fix...
is that magic? No..it is good coding...
What?
Having a quick fix out is due to low complexity of issue and assisted by a
lack of dependencies so you have reduced time for patching and testing. It
has nothing to do with code
On Sun, Nov 14, 2004 at 11:53:46PM -0600, JxT wrote:
The BSD layer is based on the BSD kernel, primarily FreeBSD. That
information is available on Apple's Developer Site.
OSX is based on the Mach kernel, not the bsd kernel.
Apple selected OPENSTEP to be the basis for the successor of the
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From: joe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 5:37 AM
Subject: RE: [in] Re: [Full-Disclosure] IE is just as safe as FireFox
I think that this corporate policy will have far more impact on your company
than on Microsoft. As more
On Sun, 14 Nov 2004, Gregory Gilliss wrote:
One comment about XP2 - the company where I work (which produces
security networking appliances) has a corporate policy - we do not
support XP2. Sales hates this (because all the numbnuts out there
are pulling SP2 down with autoupdate and they have
Rafel Ivgi, The-Insider wrote:
Firefox is not intgrated to the OS, because it doesn't have an OS.
Its just a trimmed Mozilla for windows..
Not exactly... it's a mozilla core in a native application, as opposed
to an interpreted XUL front-end. It's a bit faster in both GNU/Linux
and Windows.
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Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 12:34 AM
Subject: Re: [in] Re: [Full-Disclosure] IE is just as safe as FireFox
Quoting Raoul Nakhmanson-Kulish [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hello, Curt Purdy!
Upgrade W2K to XP? I call
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