Re: [Gendergap] [Commons-l] Fwd: Photo of the Day on Wikimedia Commons

2011-05-18 Thread Andreas Kolbe
This response here is emblematic of the misogyny and ageism pervading Commons: http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File_talk%3AOn_the_edge_-_free_world_version.jpgaction=historysubmitdiff=54489618oldid=54483841 Coming up with stuff old women like would actually be a good idea, but I

Re: [Gendergap] [Commons-l] Fwd: Photo of the Day on Wikimedia Commons

2011-05-18 Thread Béria Lima
Andreas, Again: Stop canvassing your POV!!! This list (and Commons-l) are not for that. That is my last warning _ *Béria Lima* Wikimedia Portugal http://wikimedia.pt/ (351) 963 953 042 *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o

Re: [Gendergap] [Commons-l] Fwd: Photo of the Day on Wikimedia Commons

2011-05-18 Thread Andreas Kolbe
--- On Wed, 18/5/11, Béria Lima beria.l...@wikimedia.pt wrote: From: Béria Lima beria.l...@wikimedia.pt Subject: Re: [Gendergap] [Commons-l] Fwd: Photo of the Day on Wikimedia Commons To: Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Wednesday, 18 May,

Re: [Gendergap] [Commons-l] Fwd: Photo of the Day on Wikimedia Commons

2011-05-18 Thread Thomas Koenig
Beria, Original-Nachricht Datum: Wed, 18 May 2011 12:54:57 +0100 From: Béria Lima beria.l...@wikimedia.pt To: Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org Re: [Gendergap] [Commons-l] Fwd: Photo of the Day on WikimediaCommons

Re: [Gendergap] [Commons-l] Fwd: Photo of the Day on Wikimedia Commons

2011-05-18 Thread Fred Bauder
This response here is emblematic of the misogyny and ageism pervading Commons: http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File_talk%3AOn_the_edge_-_free_world_version.jpgaction=historysubmitdiff=54489618oldid=54483841 Coming up with stuff old women like would actually be a good idea, but

Re: [Gendergap] [Commons-l] Fwd: Photo of the Day on Wikimedia Commons

2011-05-18 Thread Fred Bauder
--- On Wed, 18/5/11, Béria Lima beria.l...@wikimedia.pt wrote: From: Béria Lima beria.l...@wikimedia.pt Subject: Re: [Gendergap] [Commons-l] Fwd: Photo of the Day on Wikimedia Commons To: Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Wednesday, 18

Re: [Gendergap] [Commons-l] Fwd: Photo of the Day on Wikimedia Commons

2011-05-18 Thread Nepenthe
Fred, as I've already noted, the offending comment was apparently *not*eliminated from the final tally of the votes made by George Chernilevsky, though omitting it would not have changed the outcome of the vote. Nepenthe On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 8:23 AM, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote:

Re: [Gendergap] [Commons-l] Fwd: Photo of the Day on Wikimedia Commons

2011-05-18 Thread Andreas Kolbe
--- On Wed, 18/5/11, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote: From: Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net Subject: Re: [Gendergap] [Commons-l] Fwd: Photo of the Day on Wikimedia Commons To: Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Wednesday,

Re: [Gendergap] [Commons-l] Fwd: Photo of the Day on Wikimedia Commons

2011-05-18 Thread Fred Bauder
Fred, as I've already noted, the offending comment was apparently *not*eliminated from the final tally of the votes made by George Chernilevsky, though omitting it would not have changed the outcome of the vote. Nepenthe It should not have been considered. That is our standard practice with

Re: [Gendergap] [Commons-l] Fwd: Photo of the Day on Wikimedia Commons

2011-05-18 Thread Andreas Kolbe
--- On Wed, 18/5/11, Béria Lima beria.l...@wikimedia.pt wrote:From: Béria Lima beria.l...@wikimedia.pt Subject: Re: [Gendergap] [Commons-l] Fwd: Photo of the Day on Wikimedia Commons To: Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Wednesday, 18 May,

Re: [Gendergap] [Commons-l] Fwd: Photo of the Day on Wikimedia Commons

2011-05-18 Thread Fred Bauder
Could we agree that a decision not to feature a medicore and non-notable piece of original art that offers no or little educational value is _not_ censorhip? And could we agree that featuring a medicore and non-notable piece of original art that offers no or little educational value, just

Re: [Gendergap] [Commons-l] Fwd: Photo of the Day on Wikimedia Commons

2011-05-18 Thread Andreas Kolbe
--- On Wed, 18/5/11, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote: From: Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net Subject: Re: [Gendergap] [Commons-l] Fwd: Photo of the Day on Wikimedia Commons To: Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Wednesday,

Re: [Gendergap] [Commons-l] Fwd: Photo of the Day on Wikimedia Commons

2011-05-18 Thread Sarah
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 07:23, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote: This includes Commons selecting images for featured status on the basis of comments like I like her big tits, rather than artistic merit, and then featuring them on the main page. You've been informed several times

Re: [Gendergap] [Commons-l] Fwd: Photo of the Day on Wikimedia Commons

2011-05-18 Thread Béria Lima
I'm only warning a commons user that canvassing is not accepted. And since you need to be warned on wiki, i did that. And btw, you don't recognize any name, but I do (i will not mention here because that would be rude to then) So, again, you will stop that idiot crusade against this picture and

Re: [Gendergap] [Commons-l] Fwd: Photo of the Day on Wikimedia Commons

2011-05-18 Thread Béria Lima
In this case, Sarah, change the policy of what should be in Main Page, or change the Sexual policy (in discussion by the way). Create a cruzade against that image would not change anything. And btw, take political, ideological or any other kind of ideas from a 5 words phrase requires much

Re: [Gendergap] [Commons-l] Fwd: Photo of the Day on Wikimedia Commons

2011-05-18 Thread Fred Bauder
In this case, Sarah, change the policy of what should be in Main Page, or change the Sexual policy (in discussion by the way). _ *Béria Lima* So where is that discussion? I found Commons:Sexual content and Help:Sexual content and its talk page. But what we're talking about here is not

Re: [Gendergap] [Commons-l] Fwd: Photo of the Day on Wikimedia Commons

2011-05-18 Thread Sarah
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 09:45, Béria Lima beria.l...@wikimedia.pt wrote: In this case, Sarah, change the policy of what should be in Main Page, or change the Sexual policy (in discussion by the way). Create a cruzade against that image would not change anything. And btw, take political,

Re: [Gendergap] [Commons-l] Fwd: Photo of the Day on Wikimedia Commons

2011-05-18 Thread Fred Bauder
My point is this: a significant number of women (current and potential editors) don't want to work in a I like the big tits atmosphere, whatever was meant by it. Others don't mind. Point is that some *do* mind. Sarah So, was it an inane remark or a symptom of an atmosphere? I'm pretty sure

Re: [Gendergap] [Commons-l] Fwd: Photo of the Day on Wikimedia Commons

2011-05-18 Thread Fred Bauder
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 10:16, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote: My point is this: a significant number of women (current and potential editors) don't want to work in a I like the big tits atmosphere, whatever was meant by it. Others don't mind. Point is that some *do* mind.

Re: [Gendergap] [Commons-l] Fwd: Photo of the Day on Wikimedia Commons

2011-05-18 Thread Béria Lima
not that i know Fred. And behaivor will be very difficult to fill in a policy or guideline. but nothing prevent you from start a discussion about. Be bold ;) _ *Béria Lima* Wikimedia Portugal http://wikimedia.pt/ (351) 963 953 042 *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a

Re: [Gendergap] [Commons-l] Fwd: Photo of the Day on Wikimedia Commons

2011-05-18 Thread Andreas Kolbe
--- On Wed, 18/5/11, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote: From: Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net I am sure the editor who said I like her big tits had that political message in mind. Andreas OK, Einstein, what is the psychological significance of a bare-breasted Liberty, as

Re: [Gendergap] [Commons-l] Fwd: Photo of the Day on Wikimedia Commons

2011-05-18 Thread Fred Bauder
On May 18, 2011, at 12:47 PM, Sarah wrote: I did say something in the end, and an uninvolved admin left a note on talk asking that the remarks cease. And though he meant well, and I was and remain grateful to him for stepping in, he asked that they cease as a matter of courtesy to me.