You could just start over. Open a collab space in someone's userspace,
redirect WP:GGTF to that spot, and invite a few people to come collaborate.
Having it in userspace is probably the best (if still minimal) protection
against trolls and ne'er-do-wells.
Is it simply impossible to start a Wikipedia project that's open to women,
or people who identify as women? (I'm sorry if I don't use the correct
terms, but I haven't kept up with them in recent years.)
I mean if we did it... what would the consequences be?
Lightbreather
On Tue, Dec 30, 2014
Could you please clarify, Lightbreather? Do you mean a wikiproject that is
*only* open to women/those who identify as women? Because all wikiprojects
are open to all interested editors, generally speaking.
Would that not require editors to have to publicly self-identify? How
would that be
Well, I'm brainstorming, but yes... a project that is only open to women or
those who identify as women. And yes, that would mean identifying (via
one's she edits preference - as I know of no other ways to identify,
right?) Hypothetically, is there anything to prevent us from doing it?
(I just
I joined the Systers mailing list - women only - administered by the Anita
Borg Institute some months ago, and it basically involved swearing that you
are female. There are a few moderators who manages the list.
Lightbreather
On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 8:50 AM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote:
You may be interested in the Systers forum at the Anita Borg Institute:
http://anitaborg.org/get-involved/systers/
It is women only. Sorry guys.
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Ahh. I am not certain how public that particular preference is; I'm
fairly certain there's no public list. The preference was installed on all
WMF wikis at the request of projects where there is a different term for
user depending on the self-identified gender of the user. (For example,
the user
Well, how would you limit participation to just those people? There's no
page-protection option for check person's gender, then allow edits only if
'female', and Wikipedia doesn't currently have any policies that would
allow, like, topic bans from a Wikiproject based on gender rather than
I know you can use the they template to see if a user prefer he, she,
or they. It seems like that could be queried to find out who identifies
as she and send out an invitation to join the women-only project... if
such a thing were created. In addition, a notice could go up saying that
women
I can imagine the complaints and hurdles. The discussion is it possible?
Could it work?
To your specific questions, if there's no page-protection option, can there
be? If it's absolutely impossible, then the moderators would have to keep
an eye on those things. Also, I think there would be parts
On 31 December 2014 at 11:18, LB lightbreath...@gmail.com wrote:
I can imagine the complaints and hurdles. The discussion is it possible?
Could it work?
To your specific questions, if there's no page-protection option, can
there be? If it's absolutely impossible, then the moderators would
So, I'm reading Wikipedia:WikiProject
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject and nothing is
jumping out at me as prohibiting a WP:WOMEN project. It says,
A *WikiProject* is a group https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_group of
contributors who want to work together as a team
I've started two separate mailing list topics today - Women of GGTF and
WP:WOMEN - but they haven't posted. You do send to
Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org, right? I think that's what I've used before.
Lightbreather
On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 9:25 AM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote:
On 31
As I'm imagining this right now, it would be public. It would be open to
those who've identified as women to edit, and to others to read. I suppose
it might touch upon content issues, but those would more likely go to the
project and article talk pages for specific subjects and topics.
What its
On 31 December 2014 at 11:38, LB lightbreath...@gmail.com wrote:
I've started two separate mailing list topics today - Women of GGTF and
WP:WOMEN - but they haven't posted. You do send to
Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org, right? I think that's what I've used
before.
Lightbreather
They've
The below definitely are interesting issues which deserve their own
thread. I kept reading the proposals but had not run into the
implementation very often.
On 12/30/2014 3:24 PM, Risker wrote:
Keep in mind that the majority of Wikimedians (i.e., people making
edits on the 900+ sites hosted by
Some thoughts...some ok some negative about a project for women.
Spaces that promote sisterhood and women only that are public generally
have overwhelming woman. participation and men often play the role of
observers.
That's why I created the WikiWomens Collab. While men like it, it's
extremely
There are already plenty of mentors on Wikipedia...no one needs to pay for
it. There is already an individual engagement grant focusing on a mentor
program. Can't link to it but on my user talk page there is an invite to
participate.
That is funded. When I worked at WMF they decided to out the
On 31 December 2014 at 11:52, Carol Moore dc carolmoor...@verizon.net
wrote:
The below definitely are interesting issues which deserve their own
thread. I kept reading the proposals but had not run into the
implementation very often.
On 12/30/2014 3:24 PM, Risker wrote:
Keep in mind that
A women's project might be a nice complement to the collaborative and the
teahouse. The collaborative is a great choice for women who like to use
Facebook and Twitter, but some don't. The teahouse is OK (and I'd like to
offer myself as a mentor for women editors there), but even there the
Yes, I just suggest that you find as much research as you can to prove why
this type of thing would work.
But, perhaps I'm just paranoid. I have had almost every project I have ever
started nominated for deletion. SoI'm paranoid :)
Why does Wikipedia need a woman-centric space for people who
Good riddance 2014 WELCOME 2015.
Onwards and upwards Wikipedia/media revolutionaries - let's focus on
positive action for 2015 that will improve the access and ability that
underrepresented peoples have in contributing to the world's go-to source
for free knowledge.
“When I dare to be
To me, a practice wiki is NOT the answer. But it's what looks like an
answer when you frame the issue as let's fix the problem with women
instead of let's fix the problem with Wikipedia. I do not think a retreat
to various off-WMF platforms is anything other that, a retreat.
I think the place
I suggest that interested people create an Individual Engagement Grant to
create a women's space on Wikipedia. This can engage women through events,
activities, recruitment, social media (incorporate WIkiWomen's Collab) and
so forth.
You'd get funding from WMF, if approved, to hire a designer to
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