Re: [Gendergap] Nudity vs Islam in Western Europe

2011-09-23 Thread Arnaud HERVE
Ok I will be a bit long here. On 23/09/2011 01:07, Emily Monroe wrote: Personally, I really don't understand why people get upset about Islamic women /choosing/ to wear hijabs, or niqabs, under the pretense of feminism. Part of what feminism fights for is the right to choose. This is the

Re: [Gendergap] Nudity vs Islam in Western Europe

2011-09-23 Thread Arnaud HERVE
On 23/09/2011 16:23, Fred Bauder wrote: This rant is inappropriate. Mmh... Yes, ok, goodbye. Anyway this list has been concentrating on hte appearance of women, not on the participation of women of women to generic topics, which was what I was looking for when I first came. I will

Re: [Gendergap] Nudity vs Islam in Western Europe

2011-09-22 Thread Arnaud HERVE
I am not sure this is strictly on-topic, but I thought it might be interesting concerning female appearance issues. We are starting presidential campaigns in France now, and there is a candidate for the right of women to wear the niqab (full clothing except for the eyes) Here is an article,

Re: [Gendergap] Black skins

2011-09-20 Thread Arnaud HERVE
On 20/09/2011 01:10, Andreas Kolbe wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXG38QxXY-s Not only worth watching but compulsory watching, I think. Thanks Andreas for this great link. I'll be watching the movie Good Hair next week-end. Yes I suspect light brown caffelatte skin is becoming a sort

Re: [Gendergap] Labiaplasty

2011-09-17 Thread Arnaud HERVE
I think you are perfectly right, Sarah. The woman on the right is also more muscular. The fact that those images keep being restored shows a definite intention, which makes it not an occasional mistake but a voluntary and persistent medical lie. You are also right about the need of surgery.

Re: [Gendergap] Labiaplasty

2011-09-17 Thread Arnaud HERVE
On 17/09/2011 19:17, Arnaud HERVE wrote: The woman on the right is also more muscular. I meant the woman on the left, sorry. Arnaud ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap

Re: [Gendergap] Labiaplasty

2011-09-17 Thread Arnaud HERVE
On 17/09/2011 20:14, Fred Bauder wrote: A lot of this surgery is cosmetic surgery, thus it is a matter of taste, not a matter of dysfunction or normality. And, usually, is quite private and nobody's business. From an average citizen's point of view, certainly. From a parent's, educator's or

[Gendergap] An example of clothed model in medical document

2011-09-14 Thread Arnaud HERVE
The last few days we talked about appropriate nudity in medical images. I have an example of appropriate clothing now. I think applying such rules as decency, respect, etc. are not totally sufficient. I think that the main principle should to avoid erotic content in order to focus on the

Re: [Gendergap] Consent for photographs on Commons

2011-09-14 Thread Arnaud HERVE
On 14/09/2011 16:56, Sarah wrote: So the problem with the basic consent template as written -- I personally created this media. All identifiable persons shown specifically consented to this photograph or video -- is that it implies to the unsuspecting that consent has been given to take the

[Gendergap] Photos of girl-friends

2011-09-12 Thread Arnaud HERVE
On 12/09/2011 13:45, Sydney Poore wrote: No, not really. The assumption is toward the uploader having the appropriate permission if it appears to be an amateur image and it has not obvious signs of being a copyright violation. People have been in disagreement about whether images that are

[Gendergap] Nudity vs Islam in Western Europe

2011-09-07 Thread Arnaud HERVE
On 07/09/2011 04:02, Nathan wrote: Since we know that the gender gap exists in many cultures, and not just the U.S. or Europe, being aware of and sensitive to specific cultural biases takes on special merit here. Far more gratuitous nudity is not terribly uncommon throughout Western

Re: [Gendergap] Pregnancy article lead-image RFC

2011-09-06 Thread Arnaud HERVE
On 06/09/2011 11:10, Laura Hale wrote: From a women's sport perspective, we could really, really use some images featuring women's sport and encouraging people to post images of their friends and family to demonstrate certain things feels wholly appropriate. Ah yes, when there is a lack