Re: [Gendergap] Craigslist founder donates $500K to curb Wikipedia trolls - Email filters?

2017-02-17 Thread Jackie Koerner
Hello all, What's everyone's thoughts of filtering email to a repository if the email contains certain words? This could be using tools currently being honed with the Detox project: https://meta.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Detox/Resources This way, they could be viewed or not viewed by the

Re: [Gendergap] Craigslist founder donates $500K to curb Wikipedia trolls - Email filters?

2017-02-17 Thread Jackie Koerner
Oh, I do certainly think this should be a user's choice and one they could turn on or off. What do you all think about the whole thought? I have been also reflecting on what others wrote about getting at the root of the issue instead of addressing symptoms only. The trouble with making

Re: [Gendergap] Craigslist founder donates $500K to curb Wikipedia trolls - Email filters?

2017-02-17 Thread Jackie Koerner
Anne, I do think you misinterpreted what I was suggesting and perhaps the project. The artificial intelligence tool is currently being trained using volunteers to rank messages, but once launched it would operate and only need humans for maintenance, I imagine. -- Jackie Koerner > On Feb 12,

Re: [Gendergap] Craigslist founder donates $500K to curb Wikipedia trolls - Email filters?

2017-02-17 Thread Carol Moore dc
Having had a thousand nasty and threatening messages from someone who used about 40 different emails, I still wouldn't like moderation. Is there a way to retroactively check emails? I guess the headers are it, and I always sent those (they were all yahoo mail). On 2/12/2017 2:25 PM, Risker

Re: [Gendergap] Craigslist founder donates $500K to curb Wikipedia trolls - Email filters?

2017-02-13 Thread Pete Forsyth
On 02/12/2017 03:38 PM, Risker wrote: On 12 February 2017 at 17:22, Jonathan Cardy > wrote: Clearly not everyone would opt into it if there was an option to do so. Do you object to the idea of developing an option to

Re: [Gendergap] Craigslist founder donates $500K to curb Wikipedia trolls - Email filters?

2017-02-12 Thread Pine W
I agree with Risker here. Pine On Sun, Feb 12, 2017 at 3:38 PM, Risker wrote: > > > On 12 February 2017 at 17:22, Jonathan Cardy > wrote: > >> Thanks Risker, >> >> Clearly not everyone would opt into it if there was an option to do so. >> Do

Re: [Gendergap] Craigslist founder donates $500K to curb Wikipedia trolls - Email filters?

2017-02-12 Thread Risker
On 12 February 2017 at 17:22, Jonathan Cardy wrote: > Thanks Risker, > > Clearly not everyone would opt into it if there was an option to do so. Do > you object to the idea of developing an option to opt in to email filtering? > > Regards > >

Re: [Gendergap] Craigslist founder donates $500K to curb Wikipedia trolls - Email filters?

2017-02-12 Thread Jonathan Cardy
Thanks Risker, Clearly not everyone would opt into it if there was an option to do so. Do you object to the idea of developing an option to opt in to email filtering? Regards Jonathan/WereSpielChequers > On 12 Feb 2017, at 19:25, Risker wrote: > > I am extremely,

Re: [Gendergap] Craigslist founder donates $500K to curb Wikipedia trolls - Email filters?

2017-02-12 Thread Risker
I am extremely, extremely uncomfortable with email moderation. I cannot emphasize this enough. Frankly, I'd rather the NSA be reading my mail than my fellow Wikimedians - they have no actual interest in anything that I'm writing. If moderation became standard, I'd shut off "email this user". It

Re: [Gendergap] Craigslist founder donates $500K to curb Wikipedia trolls - Email filters?

2017-02-12 Thread Jonathan Cardy
Thanks Ryan and Chris, I've endorsed the Bethnaught proposal which covers all of this idea except the email filter bits. I think the privacy issues of a moderated email stream can be resolved by OTRS style checking of the moderators. As for the staffing issues I'm optimistic that there are

Re: [Gendergap] Craigslist founder donates $500K to curb Wikipedia trolls - Email filters?

2017-02-09 Thread Nathan
On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 4:44 PM, WereSpielChequers < werespielchequ...@gmail.com> wrote: > Christophe, Carol and Fae's notes have set me thinking as to what we could > do with these funds, > > One of the areas that I understand has been a problem is email harassment, > particularly of women and I

Re: [Gendergap] Craigslist founder donates $500K to curb Wikipedia trolls - Email filters?

2017-02-09 Thread Chris "Jethro" Schilling
Some of these ideas were advanced in the last Inspire Campaign on addressing harassment by User:BethNaught: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/Allow_users_to_restrict_who_can_send_them_email If folks want to work on developing this idea for out more concretely, they can use this

Re: [Gendergap] Craigslist founder donates $500K to curb Wikipedia trolls - Email filters?

2017-02-09 Thread Ryan Kaldari
On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 3:44 PM, WereSpielChequers < werespielchequ...@gmail.com> wrote: > ... > > The first would be to allow editors to set their email to only receive > from confirmed or even extended confirmed accounts. This would be invisible > to new editors, they'd just not see the *email

Re: [Gendergap] Craigslist founder donates $500K to curb Wikipedia trolls - Email filters?

2017-02-09 Thread WereSpielChequers
Christophe, Carol and Fae's notes have set me thinking as to what we could do with these funds, One of the areas that I understand has been a problem is email harassment, particularly of women and I believe particularly from throwaway accounts. I was wondering what people on this list would