To: Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects;
Subject:[Gendergap] Gender gap emails Arbitrator doesn't like
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration_Committee/Noticeboarddiff=637703278oldid=637701678
Is a comment by an Arbitrator about things written last
Hopefully they aren't proposing a standard tougher than than on all the
other mailing lists, none of which I personally belong to.
Oddly enough I've just made that point on-wiki. (Before I'd properly read
your email!)
That said I *do* think this list could do with more active moderation.
Kumioko,
I was happy when you gave up the multiple-a-day screeds you were sending me
about arbitraitors” and how the community’s decision to ban you was somehow
the Arbitration Committee “silencing a critic.” I’m disappointed that you’ve
latched on to a list for productive conversation
GW, accusing me of hijacking this list for a vendetta is a purely untrue
and petty accusation. For the last couple of years my goal on the project
has been to make it more fair for all editors regardless of status (admin
or editor), gender, race, etc. I have been aware, for quite a while, that
my T-Mobile 4G LTE device
-- Original message--
*From: *Carol Moore dc
*Date: *Fri, Dec 12, 2014 11:20 AM
*To: *Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects;
*Subject:*[Gendergap] Gender gap emails Arbitrator doesn't like
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title
GW, accusing me of hijacking this list for a vendetta is a purely untrue and
petty accusation. For the last couple of years my goal on the project has been
to make it more fair for all editors regardless of status (admin or editor),
gender, race, etc.
Well, I’m glad you got some of this very
.
Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE device
-- Original message--
*From: *Carol Moore dc
*Date: *Fri, Dec 12, 2014 11:20 AM
*To: *Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects;
*Subject:*[Gendergap] Gender gap emails Arbitrator doesn't like
https://en.wikipedia.org/w
Ok, now, before this devolves further, let us all end this stupidity. Lets
get back on topic! GW, your comments today have had nothing to do with this
list other than to attack me. Enough is enough.
On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 2:00 PM, gorillawarfarewikipe...@gmail.com wrote:
GW, accusing me of
LTE device
-- Original message--
*From: *Carol Moore dc
*Date: *Fri, Dec 12, 2014 11:20 AM
*To: *Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects;
*Subject:*[Gendergap] Gender gap emails Arbitrator doesn't like
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title
Actually, GorillaWarfare was responding to the subject header. She is an
arbitrator. She is also expressing her opinion about why, as an
arbitrator, she has concerns about this list. I think she's bang on.
And I agree with Chris.
Risker/Anne
On 12 December 2014 at 14:08, Reguyla
Ok, so if this is to be a female only admin only list, then please remove
me from it. I hope that at some point though, if you all are interested in
actually improving systematic bias on Wikipedia and the other WMF projects,
you will be open to all points of view including those of editors who
And for what its worth, not one of GorillaWarfare's responses had anything
to do with this thread, but a way to attack me because of my views that
admins should be accountable for their actions in the same way editors are,
that the Arbcom has become a major part of the civility problem on
The thread is about an arbitrator who made a comment about their views on
the list:
Thanks for pointing that out, Risker. I became aware of the article when
browsing through the archives of the gendergap mailing list. Some of what
is said there (on the gendergap mailing list) concerns me enough
No you want me to leave the list, because I was banned for criticizing
admin abuse and the Arbcom of which you are a part. But don't worry, I have
unsubscribed and am simply waiting on the confirmation so soon I will no
longer be on this list and you can continue to ignore the real problems
which
Well, I suppose Kumoiko/Reygula could have reasonably riposted that the proposed email that Arbcom finally did or did not send to his employers was harassment of a sort. However I agree that it seems something of a stretch to accuse you of voting to ban Carol and hand out a mere slap of the
: [Gendergap] Gender gap emails Arbitrator doesn't like
Well, I suppose Kumoiko/Reygula could have reasonably riposted that the
proposed email that Arbcom finally did or did not send to his employers was
harassment of a sort. However I agree that it seems something of a stretch to
accuse
Regardless of whether the Arbcom actually did it, they advocated doing it
so they are still responsible. As for the moderators removing me from the
list, I have received emails from 5 people so far that think I am just
being bullied by 2 arbs and a trustee of WMUK who probably is hoping to
score
Dude, what is wrong with you? Sending over a dozen off-topic message to
a low bandwidth email list? A list about WP's gendergap, a gap which
often appears online when men send a disproportionate number of messages.
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My apologies, that wasn't supposed to go to the list.
On 12/12/2014 04:14 PM, Joseph Reagle wrote:
Dude, what is wrong with you? Sending over a dozen off-topic message to
a low bandwidth email list? A list about WP's gendergap, a gap which
often appears online when men send a disproportionate
On Friday, Dec 12, 2014 at 3:38 PM, marinka marinkavandam.com
mari...@marinkavandam.com, wrote:
On topic, are we going to see some more debate about the Slate piece?
Anne/Risker is suggesting there was a basic misunderstanding on the part of the
author: that the whole thing had nothing to do
Kumioko has been removed from the list - Leigh did so earlier, and I agree
with her decision. Of the posts Carch had a problem with, I don't see most
of them as an issue. Due to health issues I've been almost completely MIA
for the last long period of time and missed the posts as they occurred,
thank you kevin;
i appreciate the spirit that the remarks are taken
i do not appreciate being outed by an arbitrator
linking a private email message to a public talk page.
i would say this conduct amply justifies the remarks i have made about
arbcom in public elsewhere.
On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at
On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 8:54 PM, Jim Hayes slowki...@gmail.com wrote:
i do not appreciate being outed by an arbitrator
linking a private email message to a public talk page.
What?
– Molly (GorillaWarfare)
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On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 9:53 PM, GorillaWarfare
gorillawarfarewikipe...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 8:54 PM, Jim Hayes slowki...@gmail.com wrote:
i do not appreciate being outed by an arbitrator
linking a private email message to a public talk page.
What?
– Molly
I assumed that Reguyla is the same Reguyla as onwiki, the same way that I
assume that Carol is the same Carol and Risker is the same Risker.
– Molly (GorillaWarfare)
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