Re: [Gendergap] Outreach..was.. Proposal: Forking gendergap

2011-03-17 Thread carolmooredc
On 3/17/2011 6:43 AM, elisabeth bauer wrote: 2011/3/17 Carol Moore in DCcontac...@carolmoore.net: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Gender_gap/outreach_letters My first draft of any outreach email letter - which I sent an earlier version of to a bunch of women with no positive feedback. What do

Re: [Gendergap] Wars

2011-03-17 Thread Marc Riddell
on 3/17/11 12:22 PM, Sandra ordonez at sandratordo...@gmail.com wrote: Laura, I hope you dont feel bad. Whether people agree or not, you were sharing your perspective, and thats one of the reasons for this list, so women on Wikipedia can feel more empowered to voice their opinion. And the men -

Re: [Gendergap] Outreach..was.. Proposal: Forking gendergap

2011-03-17 Thread Steven Walling
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 3:43 AM, elisabeth bauer efleb...@googlemail.comwrote: I don't think outreach letters, however well formulated, will motivate many people to try editing Wikipedia. If you know the women you sent your letter to, why not rather invite them to an edit wikipedia party?

[Gendergap] What to do about sexism when we see it on WP?

2011-03-17 Thread Sarah
I saw an incident recently on WP that's fairly common, but it's not clear to me what we should do about it, if anything. A woman editor did something that a few male editors didn't like, and she was taken to task for it. In the course of the discussion, the Wikipedia biography of a woman was

Re: [Gendergap] What to do about sexism when we see it on WP?

2011-03-17 Thread Ryan Kaldari
The behavior you describe is all too common on Wikipedia (and even worse on Commons). I could quote some much more blatant examples than the one you cite, but I'll spare everyone the groans. I think the problem is that most guys do not understand that creating an unwanted sexualized

Re: [Gendergap] Wars

2011-03-17 Thread Sandra
This is great!!! Go Chica!! I would also add something about how info shared on this list is used and boundaries but would like to think of wording more Just thinking out loud. We want to: *create an editing environment in which women in all the different language Wikipedias feel safe

Re: [Gendergap] Proposal: Forking gendergap: Main list for women

2011-03-17 Thread The Richardsons
First, I would like to say that, as a male editor of Wikipedia, seeing the discourse of this week, I was upset and I was inspired to look inward, questioning my position here on gendergap. I will refrain from taking a dominant position (if I ever did), and I have something legitimate to say

Re: [Gendergap] What to do about sexism when we see it on WP?

2011-03-17 Thread Fred Bauder
I saw an incident recently on WP that's fairly common, but it's not clear to me what we should do about it, if anything. A woman editor did something that a few male editors didn't like, and she was taken to task for it. In the course of the discussion, the Wikipedia biography of a woman was

Re: [Gendergap] Proposal: Forking gendergap: Main list for women

2011-03-17 Thread Marc Riddell
on 3/17/11 8:11 PM, The Richardsons at dons...@optonline.net wrote: Snip Before this, I was mostly opposed to forking. But if this were separated into a female, male, and co-ed group, and perhaps each person could be a member if one or two appropriate ones, then we would not have such a

Re: [Gendergap] What to do about sexism when we see it on WP?

2011-03-17 Thread George Herbert
Just for information - Whoever starts actioning this needs to be careful. The community lashbacks over trying to limit abusive behavior in other areas (the civility arguments, etc) have been severe at times. A lot of men will take That was sexist and is creating a hostile environment, please

Re: [Gendergap] What to do about sexism when we see it on WP?

2011-03-17 Thread John Vandenberg
On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 12:59 PM, Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org wrote: Nice find Fred. I hadn't read those before. It sounds like revision deletion might be an option in more extreme cases. Less extreme cases should be taken here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikiquette_alerts