[Gendergap] Fwd: [Wiki-research-l] Join the inaugural Wiki Research Hackathon on November 9

2013-10-25 Thread Sydney
FYI Begin forwarded message: From: Dario Taraborelli dtarabore...@wikimedia.org Date: October 25, 2013, 13:55:05 EDT To: Research into Wikimedia content and communities wiki-researc...@lists.wikimedia.org, A mailing list for the Analytics Team at WMF and everybody who has an interest in

Re: [Gendergap] Seeking advice on how to talk to other lists about sex-issue.

2013-10-25 Thread Joseph Reagle
On 10/25/2013 12:56 PM, Klein,Max wrote: Well when Markus released his research on-list, I applauded his innovative methods and techniques. I also wanted to remind that forcing this binary or trinary classification onto people is not something that the software is making us do, but rather the

Re: [Gendergap] Seeking advice on how to talk to other lists about sex-issue.

2013-10-25 Thread Risker
I remember seeing something about this on Wikidata and just not having enough hours in the day to comment at the time. There are three issues being intermingled here: *Sex, which is a biological marker determined by primary and secondary sexual characteristics such as breasts, penises, uteruses,

Re: [Gendergap] Seeking advice on how to talk to other lists about sex-issue.

2013-10-25 Thread Ryan Kaldari
The attribute that is being assigned by property 21 on Wikidata (as it is actually being used) is not sex, sexual orientation, or gender identity. It is simply gender, and should be labeled as such. For the majority of people, we don't actually know for sure what their sex, sexual orientation, or

Re: [Gendergap] Measurable goals in all areas and gender/minority gap in particular

2013-10-25 Thread trueself56 .
The conference workshops are sound fascinating and I would love to hear more about the talk you are giving on Mentoring. Having recently been looking to be adopted or mentored I am interested in ideas from the other side of the keyboard (so to speak). It seems that there has been lots of

Re: [Gendergap] Seeking advice on how to talk to other lists about sex-issue.

2013-10-25 Thread Risker
It's controversial because there are women who assumed a male role, but were definitely women in their personal life. So your definition there would be to assign them the male gender but the female sex. And I disagreewhat's being assigned there is sex, not gender. Risker On 25 October