Re: [Gendergap] press coverage of Gamergate arbcom case

2015-01-25 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Press coverage is widening: http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/jan/23/wikipedia-bans-editors-from-gender-related-articles-amid-gamergate-controversy http://internet.gawker.com/wikipedia-purged-a-group-of-feminist-editors-because-of-1681463331

Re: [Gendergap] press coverage of Gamergate arbcom case

2015-01-25 Thread Carol Moore dc
On 1/25/2015 1:03 PM, Sarah Stierch wrote: After reviewing the Arbcom case, I don't even know who got the idea that any of the contributing editors are feminist, per se. No one even mentions the word, except once, when describing a subject that was slandered in the gamer gate article(s). I

Re: [Gendergap] Stepping down as list mod - volunteers needed

2015-01-25 Thread Christine Meyer
I'm fine with Carol as well. It would certainly send a message. Christine User:Figureskatingfan On Jan 25, 2015 3:06 PM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 4:47 PM, Carol Moore dc carolmoor...@verizon.net wrote: On 1/25/2015 2:09 PM, Chris Keating wrote: I'd be

Re: [Gendergap] press coverage of Gamergate arbcom case

2015-01-25 Thread Nathan
On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 2:59 PM, Sarah slimvir...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 11:03 AM, Sarah Stierch sarah.stie...@gmail.com wrote: After reviewing the Arbcom case, I don't even know who got the idea that any of the contributing editors are feminist, per se. No one even

Re: [Gendergap] press coverage of Gamergate arbcom case

2015-01-25 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 6:03 PM, Sarah Stierch sarah.stie...@gmail.com wrote: Note: most of the in trouble editor's aren't that productive at contributing feminist content to Wikipedia. I have interacted with only four of them - Black Kite, Future Perfect at Sunrise, TarainDC and Bilby - only

Re: [Gendergap] Stepping down as list mod - volunteers needed

2015-01-25 Thread Chris Keating
I'd be happy to help, assuming another man doesn't imbalance things Chris On 23 Jan 2015 21:34, LB lightbreath...@gmail.com wrote: I might be interested. What all's involved? Lightbreather On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 2:07 PM, Leigh Honeywell le...@hypatia.ca wrote: Hey Kevin, don't worry

[Gendergap] Goings-on at WER

2015-01-25 Thread LB
Some of you may already be aware of this, but there is a did you ask any women question that has blown up all out-of-proportion at WP Editor Retention. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Editor_Retention#How_many_women_have_been_involved_in_these_discussions.3F

Re: [Gendergap] press coverage of Gamergate arbcom case

2015-01-25 Thread Sydney Poore
I largely agree with Sarah. After several years taking a break from using the Checkuser tool, in early January I decided to actively join the the team again. So, I read all the active ArbCom cases to familarize myself with the current controversies on Wikipedia. During my reading of the GamerGate

Re: [Gendergap] press coverage of Gamergate arbcom case

2015-01-25 Thread Sarah Stierch
I am now on digest mode with this mailing list. The traffic is often too much for me and the voice of this list is frustrating for me sometimes..so... remember that please :) --- I have been asked to share my thoughts by many people this morning on the internet, here they are: I have been

Re: [Gendergap] press coverage of Gamergate arbcom case

2015-01-25 Thread Tarc .
I just wanted to bring up a point wrt but cannot ban the Guardian for bad journalism below, there are already efforts underway on the Gamergate talk page by a single-purpose account to do just that. The argument is that since this Guardian article is so wrong (and it really isn't, just in

Re: [Gendergap] Stepping down as list mod - volunteers needed

2015-01-25 Thread Carol Moore dc
On 1/25/2015 2:09 PM, Chris Keating wrote: I'd be happy to help, assuming another man doesn't imbalance things Chris I definitely think we need another woman. I'd step up, but as a banned from wikipedia feminist already, I won't embarrass anyone by doing so. CM

Re: [Gendergap] press coverage of Gamergate arbcom case

2015-01-25 Thread Ryan Kaldari
I'm sure it's hard to remain calm and thoughtful when 8chan is running 24/7 discussion threads to: 1. Strategize on how to subvert the consensus process to take over the article 2. Target Wikipedia editors for doxxing and harassment so that they will stop defending the article The assault was

Re: [Gendergap] press coverage of Gamergate arbcom case

2015-01-25 Thread Carol Moore dc
On 1/25/2015 6:17 PM, Nathan wrote: I think the lesson it sends is that a righteous cause is not a defense against accusations of disruption, nor a license to violate other policies. I'm sure that among the restricted people are those with positions I'd support along with many others, but

Re: [Gendergap] press coverage of Gamergate arbcom case

2015-01-25 Thread Tarc .
Suppose I should say a brief something since some of the posts here talk about me. I have been caustic and acerbic at the Wikipedia over the years, though in fits and starts I am trying to take it down a few notches. So, yea, I'm quite aware that I'm not the best poster-child for any

Re: [Gendergap] press coverage of Gamergate arbcom case

2015-01-25 Thread Carol Moore dc
I think in both your case and Devil's Advocate (even though you take opposite positions) there may have been annoyance that you both very vocally took the wrong position on GGTF on the arbitration talk pages so this may be at least partial payback... On 1/25/2015 8:12 PM, Tarc . wrote:

Re: [Gendergap] press coverage of Gamergate arbcom case

2015-01-25 Thread Neotarf
st want to make it clear that don't consider myself to be a feminist, whatever that is. I was not a member of GGTF and have never edited in the topic of gender. I saw the disruptions on the page, and tried to give some support and validation to the only admin I saw trying to deal with the