Re: [Gendergap] Closing the gendergap in biographies on Wikipedia

2015-03-23 Thread Maximilian Klein
Hi Jane, great investigation. I like this idea of looking at the gender gap by-profession, and seeing if it is closing at any rate by sampling it over time. In fact, I put in a project for the inspire campaign to automate recording these statistics over time for all professions. It'd be great to

[Gendergap] Closing the gendergap in biographies on Wikipedia

2015-03-23 Thread Jane Darnell
Hi everyone, I have been checking how we are doing on closing the gendergap on biographies of women artists for a while. Part of the problem is collecting the data, and Wikidata is a great help. Unfortunately there are still lots of women artists with Wikidata items without any statements at all,

Re: [Gendergap] Progress of Inspire Grants – Gender gap campaign

2015-03-23 Thread
Great thanks, for some reason the site really turned me around, I just could not see how to find the main ideas page from what I thought was the campaign page. I see there are over 200 ideas, which is great, well over target considering the proposal period has another week to go. A browse through

Re: [Gendergap] Progress of Inspire Grants – Gender gap campaign

2015-03-23 Thread Sydney Poore
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/Inspire Main page for campaign. Sydney On Mar 23, 2015 8:07 AM, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote: Would someone like to summarize how the campaign is doing now it is (presumably) half way through? From the IdeaLab page[1] there is a week left before

Re: [Gendergap] Wikipedia Day NYC 2015 mini-conferenceh for te project's 14th birthday

2015-03-23 Thread Neotarf
That's interesting: The workshops are open to all Afrodescendants including but not limited to individuals who self-identify as African, African-American, Afro-Latino, Biracial, Black, Black-American, Caribbean, Garifuna, Haitian or West Indian. I've never seen editithons that exclude people

Re: [Gendergap] Wikipedia Day NYC 2015 mini-conferenceh for te project's 14th birthday

2015-03-23 Thread Katherine Casey
I recognize at least some of the names on the attendance list there as people who don't, to the best of my knowledge, identify as being of African descent, so it doesn't appear to have been an event that excluded anyone. My guess would be that the open to bit is intended to bring in people who

Re: [Gendergap] Wikipedia Day NYC 2015 mini-conferenceh for te project's 14th birthday

2015-03-23 Thread Jeremy Baron
On Mar 23, 2015 11:25 AM, Neotarf neot...@gmail.com wrote: I've never seen editithons that exclude people before. I've been to a couple of black history events, and all were welcomed, although of course there was a very high proportion of African descent. I think the point was actually to be

Re: [Gendergap] Wikipedia Day NYC 2015 mini-conferenceh for te project's 14th birthday

2015-03-23 Thread Jeremy Baron
On Mar 23, 2015 11:41 AM, Katherine Casey fluffernutter.w...@gmail.com wrote: I recognize at least some of the names on the attendance list there as people who don't, to the best of my knowledge, identify as being of African descent, so it doesn't appear to have been an event that excluded

Re: [Gendergap] Wikipedia Day NYC 2015 mini-conferenceh for te project's 14th birthday

2015-03-23 Thread
From a UK perspective, I have been to and helped to run a couple of women-based editathons, they were mainly attended by women but were never intended to be exclusive. There have also been a couple of black history editathons in London, again they were not exclusive to any particular group. I ran

[Gendergap] Progress of Inspire Grants – Gender gap campaign

2015-03-23 Thread
Would someone like to summarize how the campaign is doing now it is (presumably) half way through? From the IdeaLab page[1] there is a week left before the proposals part of the campaign closes on the 1st April, with the expectation that 100 ideas will be created. This deadline might be the wrong

Re: [Gendergap] Wikipedia Day NYC 2015 mini-conferenceh for te project's 14th birthday

2015-03-23 Thread Pharos
Yes, the idea is to be extra inclusionary by reaching out to all these groups explicitly, and in particular to representing different cultural identities in rather non-monolithic African American / African Diasporic communities. Thanks, Pharos On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 11:48 AM, Jeremy Baron

Re: [Gendergap] Wikipedia Day NYC 2015 mini-conferenceh for te project's 14th birthday

2015-03-23 Thread Daniel and Elizabeth Case
Yes, the idea is to be extra inclusionary by reaching out to all these groups explicitly, and in particular to representing different cultural identities in rather non-monolithic African American / African Diasporic communities.

Re: [Gendergap] Wikipedia Day NYC 2015 mini-conferenceh for te project's 14th birthday

2015-03-23 Thread Neotarf
*I doubt I'd attend any event purporting to recruit women that nevertheless limited itself to people who were born female; that's very much a type of exclusion I'm uncomfortable with. In general, however, there's nothing stopping you or anyone else from arranging a women-centric (or even

Re: [Gendergap] The (non-existent) Farkhunda Wikipedia article--victim or rallying point

2015-03-23 Thread Ryan Kaldari
Is there an article on vaginal fistula? I would look it up myself, but I'm at work :) On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 3:03 PM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: It could just as easily be argued the other way, I think. It's presumptuous and perhaps insulting to purport to create a biography on a

Re: [Gendergap] The (non-existent) Farkhunda Wikipedia article--victim or rallying point

2015-03-23 Thread Nathan
It could just as easily be argued the other way, I think. It's presumptuous and perhaps insulting to purport to create a biography on a person, under her own name, while merely recounting a single tragic occurrence in her life. Since there is often not enough verifiable information to create a

Re: [Gendergap] The (non-existent) Farkhunda Wikipedia article--victim or rallying point

2015-03-23 Thread Nathan
On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 6:05 PM, Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org wrote: Is there an article on vaginal fistula? I would look it up myself, but I'm at work :) There is indeed. And also rectovaginal fistula - its definitely a cluster of articles that can use some TLC, but the coverage is

[Gendergap] The (non-existent) Farkhunda Wikipedia article--victim or rallying point

2015-03-23 Thread Neotarf
Articles about women are getting lost. Lost that is, to Google searches. For the last two days, Afghanistan has been exploding in demonstrations over Farkhunda, a Kabul woman who was beaten to death and torched by a mob. Even though every major news source has done a piece on her, I can't find

Re: [Gendergap] Wikipedia Day NYC 2015 mini-conferenceh for te project's 14th birthday

2015-03-23 Thread Neotarf
See also this article: AfroCrowd: The Black Wikipedia For People of African Descent http://kreyolicious.com/afrocrowd/17531/ One of the drawbacks of GLAM is that people are just making a few edits, and leaving, rather than becoming long-term editors. There may be chances for followup here that we

Re: [Gendergap] Wikipedia Day NYC 2015 mini-conferenceh for te project's 14th birthday

2015-03-23 Thread Katherine Casey
I doubt I'd attend any event purporting to recruit women that nevertheless limited itself to people who were born female; that's very much a type of exclusion I'm uncomfortable with. In general, however, there's nothing stopping you or anyone else from arranging a women-centric (or even

Re: [Gendergap] The (non-existent) Farkhunda Wikipedia article--victim or rallying point

2015-03-23 Thread Neotarf
Hmm, it just occurred to me that Jesus was probably not notable until after his death. I wonder if anyone has ever tried to move Jesus = Murder of Jesus. Fistulas. Thanks for the comments about this. I created Fatimata Touré on Simple Wikipedia

Re: [Gendergap] The (non-existent) Farkhunda Wikipedia article--victimor rallying point

2015-03-23 Thread Daniel and Elizabeth Case
For the last two days, Afghanistan has been exploding in demonstrations over Farkhunda, a Kabul woman who was beaten to death and torched by a mob. Even though every major news source has done a piece on her, I can't find an article for her yet in Wikipedia. When it does get written, and

Re: [Gendergap] The (non-existent) Farkhunda Wikipedia article--victim or rallying point

2015-03-23 Thread Daniel and Elizabeth Case
It could just as easily be argued the other way, I think. It's presumptuous and perhaps insulting to purport to create a biography on a person, under her own name, while merely recounting a single tragic occurrence in her life. Since there is often not enough verifiable information to create

Re: [Gendergap] The (non-existent) Farkhunda Wikipedia article--victim or rallying point

2015-03-23 Thread Daniel and Elizabeth Case
Hmm, it just occurred to me that Jesus was probably not notable until after his death. I wonder if anyone has ever tried to move Jesus = Murder of Jesus. I think the correct title would be “Execution of Jesus Christ”. Daniel Case___ Gendergap