Re: [Gendergap] Linux's culture problem

2015-10-07 Thread Daniel and Elizabeth Case
>True, people are different. Some people I would like to work with, and some >people I wouldn't (like Linus Torvalds). His argument that >social norms are >irreverent to creating software (or should be) rings pretty hollow, in my >opinion. Perhaps

Re: [Gendergap] Upcoming omen in architecture edit-a-thon

2015-10-07 Thread Daniel and Elizabeth Case
Oh, this is “women in architecture” ... I was thinking this might have something to do with ravens and the number of the beast. Daniel Case___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org To manage your subscription preferences, including

Re: [Gendergap] Linux's culture problem

2015-10-07 Thread Moriel Schottlender
On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 12:44 PM, rupert THURNER wrote: > to let wikipedia NPOV also have a word, here what linus torvalds > thought about it two years ago: >http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel=137392506516022=2 > in a summary, torvalds argues that sarah sharp should

Re: [Gendergap] Linux's culture problem

2015-10-07 Thread WereSpielChequers
I'm not a member of the Lynux community, though I'm a very grateful user of their software. But I don't read that blogpost as saying that "She didn't try to change Linus Torvalds. She left". I read her words, and especially* "I’m posting this because I feel sad every time someone thanks me for

Re: [Gendergap] Linux's culture problem

2015-10-07 Thread Moriel Schottlender
On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 3:21 PM, WereSpielChequers < werespielchequ...@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm not a member of the Lynux community, though I'm a very grateful user > of their software. But I don't read that blogpost as saying that "She > didn't try to change Linus Torvalds. She left". > > I read

Re: [Gendergap] Linux's culture problem

2015-10-07 Thread Ryan Kaldari
True, people are different. Some people I would like to work with, and some people I wouldn't (like Linus Torvalds). His argument that social norms are irreverent to creating software (or should be) rings pretty hollow, in my opinion. Collaborating on software (or encyclopedias) is a social

Re: [Gendergap] Upcoming omen in architecture edit-a-thon

2015-10-07 Thread Pharos
If anyone would like to host a local event for the Women in Architecture campaign this month, I'd be glad to put you in touch with the Guggenheim folks. Here is the current global events listing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Women_in_Architecture Thanks, Pharos On Tue, Oct 6,

Re: [Gendergap] Linux's culture problem

2015-10-07 Thread Daniel and Elizabeth Case
"Abusing people they have power over" isn't a behavior that's linked in any way to being on the autism spectrum, and I've not seen any mention that Linus self-identifies as being on the spectrum, so let's please refrain from Diagnosing People Via The Internet :) Oh, I wouldn't say he is;

Re: [Gendergap] Linux's culture problem

2015-10-07 Thread Leigh Honeywell
On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 10:52 PM, Daniel and Elizabeth Case wrote: > >Collaborating on software (or > encyclopedias) is a social process, and basic civility goes a long way > towards lubricating social processes. >I also don't buy Linus's argument that > being

Re: [Gendergap] Linux's culture problem

2015-10-07 Thread rupert THURNER
to let wikipedia NPOV also have a word, here what linus torvalds thought about it two years ago: http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel=137392506516022=2 in a summary, torvalds argues that sarah sharp should accept that people are different and act different, she should not try to change linus

Re: [Gendergap] Linux's culture problem

2015-10-07 Thread Leigh Honeywell
Sarah did actually have some great suggestions on how to do things better: http://sarah.thesharps.us/2015/10/06/what-makes-a-good-community/ -Leigh On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 3:58 PM, Pine W wrote: > I wish that we had a proven solution for that kind of issue in online >

Re: [Gendergap] address the source of anger

2015-10-07 Thread Robert Williams
You're right. All over the internet is the surplus males that can't get girlfirends. The so-called "One child policy" just exacerbrates the situation in China. So yeah, people do use the internet for the purposes of blowing off steam and other uses.--Eat me, I'm an azuki At 2015-10-06 23:08:51,

Re: [Gendergap] Well done, feminism. Now men are afraid to help women at work

2015-10-07 Thread Peter Southwood
Is there a specific point you are trying to make other than stating the obvious? Cheers, Peter From: Gendergap [mailto:gendergap-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Robert Williams Sent: Tuesday, 06 October 2015 9:31 AM To: Addressing gender equity and exploring ways to increase the

Re: [Gendergap] Linux's culture problem

2015-10-07 Thread Pine W
I wish that we had a proven solution for that kind of issue in online communities in general. It's quite disappointing. Thanks for forwarding that post. Pine On Oct 7, 2015 6:44 AM, "Jason Radford" wrote: > > > I