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Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 10:37:41 -0600 (MDT)
From: Fred Bauderfredb...@fairpoint.net
Subject: Re: [Gendergap] [Commons-l] Fwd: Photo of the Day on
Wikimedia Commons
To: Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects
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: Photo of the Day on Wikimedia Commons
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Date: Tuesday, 17 May, 2011, 16:19
Hi dz,
Great to hear you'd like to be involved. I've been really
busy the past few weeks with finishing school, a trip to California,
and GLAM related
to the Commons Village Pump to ask the
community to take
a long hard look at its basic competence.
Sue, any ideas?
Andreas
--- On *Tue, 17/5/11, Sarah Stierch sa...@sarahstierch.com* wrote:
From: Sarah Stierch sa...@sarahstierch.com
Subject: Re: [Gendergap] [Commons-l] Fwd: Photo
--- On Wed, 18/5/11, Béria Lima beria.l...@wikimedia.pt wrote:
From: Béria Lima beria.l...@wikimedia.pt
Subject: Re: [Gendergap] [Commons-l] Fwd: Photo of the Day on Wikimedia Commons
To: Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects
gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org
Date: Wednesday, 18 May
Beria,
Original-Nachricht
Datum: Wed, 18 May 2011 12:54:57 +0100
From: Béria Lima beria.l...@wikimedia.pt
To: Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects
gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org
Re: [Gendergap] [Commons-l] Fwd: Photo of the Day on WikimediaCommons
This response here is emblematic of the misogyny and ageism pervading
Commons:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File_talk%3AOn_the_edge_-_free_world_version.jpgaction=historysubmitdiff=54489618oldid=54483841
Coming up with stuff old women like would actually be a good idea, but
--- On Wed, 18/5/11, Béria Lima beria.l...@wikimedia.pt wrote:
From: Béria Lima beria.l...@wikimedia.pt
Subject: Re: [Gendergap] [Commons-l] Fwd: Photo of the Day on Wikimedia
Commons
To: Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects
gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org
Date: Wednesday, 18
:
--- On Wed, 18/5/11, Béria Lima beria.l...@wikimedia.pt wrote:
From: Béria Lima beria.l...@wikimedia.pt
Subject: Re: [Gendergap] [Commons-l] Fwd: Photo of the Day on Wikimedia
Commons
To: Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects
gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org
Date
--- On Wed, 18/5/11, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote:
From: Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net
Subject: Re: [Gendergap] [Commons-l] Fwd: Photo of the Day on Wikimedia
Commons
To: Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects
gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org
Date: Wednesday
Fred, as I've already noted, the offending comment was apparently
*not*eliminated from the final tally of the votes made by George
Chernilevsky,
though omitting it would not have changed the outcome of the vote.
Nepenthe
It should not have been considered. That is our standard practice with
--- On Wed, 18/5/11, Béria Lima beria.l...@wikimedia.pt wrote:From: Béria
Lima beria.l...@wikimedia.pt
Subject: Re: [Gendergap] [Commons-l] Fwd: Photo of the Day on Wikimedia Commons
To: Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects
gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org
Date: Wednesday, 18 May
Could we agree that a decision not to feature a medicore and non-notable
piece of original art that offers no or little educational value is _not_
censorhip?
And could we agree that featuring a medicore and non-notable piece of
original art that offers no or little educational value, just
--- On Wed, 18/5/11, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote:
From: Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net
Subject: Re: [Gendergap] [Commons-l] Fwd: Photo of the Day on Wikimedia
Commons
To: Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects
gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org
Date: Wednesday
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 07:23, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote:
This includes Commons selecting images for featured status on the basis
of comments like I like her big tits, rather than artistic merit, and
then featuring them on the main page.
You've been informed several times
de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a
fazer.*
2011/5/18 Andreas Kolbe jayen...@yahoo.com
--- On *Wed, 18/5/11, Béria Lima beria.l...@wikimedia.pt* wrote:
From: Béria Lima beria.l...@wikimedia.pt
Subject: Re: [Gendergap] [Commons-l] Fwd: Photo of the Day on Wikimedia
In this case, Sarah, change the policy of what should be in Main Page, or
change the Sexual policy (in discussion by the way).
Create a cruzade against that image would not change anything. And btw, take
political, ideological or any other kind of ideas from a 5 words phrase
requires much
In this case, Sarah, change the policy of what should be in Main Page, or
change the Sexual policy (in discussion by the way).
_
*Béria Lima*
So where is that discussion? I found Commons:Sexual content and
Help:Sexual content and its talk page. But what we're talking about here
is not
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 09:45, Béria Lima beria.l...@wikimedia.pt wrote:
In this case, Sarah, change the policy of what should be in Main Page, or
change the Sexual policy (in discussion by the way).
Create a cruzade against that image would not change anything. And btw,
take political,
My point is this: a significant number of women (current and potential
editors) don't want to work in a I like the big tits atmosphere,
whatever
was meant by it. Others don't mind. Point is that some *do* mind.
Sarah
So, was it an inane remark or a symptom of an atmosphere? I'm pretty sure
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 10:16, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net
wrote:
My point is this: a significant number of women (current and
potential
editors) don't want to work in a I like the big tits atmosphere,
whatever
was meant by it. Others don't mind. Point is that some *do* mind.
not that i know Fred. And behaivor will be very difficult to fill in a
policy or guideline. but nothing prevent you from start a discussion about.
Be bold ;)
_
*Béria Lima*
Wikimedia Portugal http://wikimedia.pt/
(351) 963 953 042
*Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a
--- On Wed, 18/5/11, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote:
From: Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net
I am sure the editor who said I like her big tits
had that political
message in mind.
Andreas
OK, Einstein, what is the psychological significance of a
bare-breasted
Liberty, as
On May 18, 2011, at 12:47 PM, Sarah wrote:
I did say something in the end, and an uninvolved admin left a note on
talk asking that the remarks cease. And though he meant well, and I was
and remain grateful to him for stepping in, he asked that they cease as
a matter of courtesy to me.
I'd also be interested in contributing-- the BLP experience of last week was
incredibly enlightening, and got me thinking about access... having the right
key unlocked a wealth of knowledge and aid. How to make that key more widely
available, or second nature/common knowledge? I'm hoping to
Hi dz,
Great to hear you'd like to be involved. I've been /really/ busy the
past few weeks with finishing school, a trip to California, and GLAM
related activities (oh and Regional Ambassadorness!) - so I haven't had
time to sit down and get my stuff together for the HOW-TO. But, I'd
love to
*Actually, given that the template was cascade protected by virtue of it
being on the main page, only administrators can edit it. You're not an
administrator on Commons, but you do have a staff flag. Therefore I'd say
that's a staff action.*
That said, changed the picture without any
--- On Mon, 16/5/11, Béria Lima beria.l...@wikimedia.pt wrote:
From: Béria Lima beria.l...@wikimedia.pt
Subject: Re: [Gendergap] [Commons-l] Fwd: Photo of the Day on Wikimedia Commons
To: Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects
gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org
Date: Monday, 16 May
In my opinion there's a large and pervasive problem behind today's controversy:
in striking contrast to our core value of openness, it is very difficult to
even *perceive* how important decisions like this are made. Both the technical
and the editorial processes are pretty opaque to the average
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 11:36, Sarah Stierch sa...@sarahstierch.com wrote:
If anyone is interested in contributing to the decisions made about what
goes up on the front page of Commons, please visit here, I just found out
about this today, and I look forward to contributing:
I was all ready to point out that administrators (at least on en.wiki,
theoretically) discount comments like that, but that was *not* done in this
case per the closing summary.
Nepenthe
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Sarah slimvir...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 11:36, Sarah
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Sarah Stierch sa...@sarahstierch.comwrote:
On 5/16/2011 11:49 AM, Pete Forsyth wrote:
Anybody interested in tackling this issue?
-Pete
I'm working on diving into the HOW-TO this summer for Wiki. I do want to
see all of these topics covered - and I'll
This anime image is not appropriate on the front page. Questions of art, of
education, and of publication, all require judgement. Judgement in these
matters is normal and necessary and is not of itself something which needs
apology. Here are some reasons why I think it is okay to decide NOT to put
So you're arguing that the woman is topless in order to conform to realistic
portrayals of indigenous people? That's the biggest pile of bullshit I've
heard in years.
Every few months one of the usual suspects nominates porn to be featured on
Commons and we have to go through the same circus-show
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