Re: [Gendergap] [Research] Communicating on Wikipedia while female

2014-11-23 Thread Kerry Raymond
This anonymity issue is one that arises quite a lot with Wikipedia and the WWW and big data generally. Just because the data is public and can be aggregated and presented in all sorts of interesting ways, there are those who would argue that it is OK to identify individuals because none of the

[Gendergap] [Research] Communicating on Wikipedia while female

2014-11-21 Thread Netha Hussain
Dear all, I found an interesting research done by Laura Hale about Communicating on Wikipedia while female : A discursive analysis of the use of the word cunt on English Wikipedia user talk pages on meta wiki. The link to the research page is here:

Re: [Gendergap] [Research] Communicating on Wikipedia while female

2014-11-21 Thread Ryan Kaldari
A very interesting study, and rather depressing. I love that I'm cited as a radical feminist though :) On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Netha Hussain nethahuss...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, I found an interesting research done by Laura Hale about Communicating on Wikipedia while female : A

Re: [Gendergap] [Research] Communicating on Wikipedia while female

2014-11-21 Thread Risker
I also find it very interesting. I have, however, asked Laura to redact the identifying information of one of the editors whose actions are incorporated into this research. Research rarely includes publishing identifying information about specific individuals, particularly without the direct

Re: [Gendergap] [Research] Communicating on Wikipedia while female

2014-11-21 Thread Kevin Gorman
Honestly, I don't see a giant problem with identifying the person in question by name (and also find the research rather interesting.) Eric hasn't indicated that he regrets using the term, and has pretty robustly defended using it (going as far back as at least 2012:

Re: [Gendergap] [Research] Communicating on Wikipedia while female

2014-11-21 Thread Risker
Well, then, that speaks more to the quality of the research if an entire section is devoted to slagging a specific editor, and what you're suggesting is that the research really should be interpreted as we have this one guy who keeps using this word, plus a rare occasional other editor who uses

Re: [Gendergap] [Research] Communicating on Wikipedia while female

2014-11-21 Thread Kevin Gorman
I don't think it's at all fair to characterize the section as an attempt to rail on Eric. He just happens to have been at the center of the most recent high profile controversy about the word - which means that quoting recent defenses of the use of the word as an insult will naturally mean mostly

Re: [Gendergap] [Research] Communicating on Wikipedia while female

2014-11-21 Thread Risker
Fair enough. I was aware that Laura isn't on this list so I have been posting on Meta, which to me is the most appropriate place to critique the study. Frankly, most of it has little to do with editing while female since much of the scatological language being referred to is gender neutral.

Re: [Gendergap] [Research] Communicating on Wikipedia while female

2014-11-21 Thread Kevin Gorman
Hi all - I can't tell if Romana's recent message was accidentally allowed to go out to the whole list or not; apologies if it was, I will be removing him from the list momentarily. Best, Kevin Gorman ___ Gendergap mailing list