Re: [Gendergap] Arbcom election

2015-12-02 Thread Neotarf
Something should be said here about the importance of "oppose" votes. Because of the way the votes are counted, oppose votes can have a huge impact on the outcome. Andrew Lih (Fuzheado) also has a very interesting voter guide, and explains "strategic" voting in more detail.

Re: [Gendergap] Arbcom election

2015-11-23 Thread
As I'm up in the night with a cup of camomile to get me sleepy again, I went and voted. Checking candidate statements and voting took me about 5 minutes. It's easy and quick. I skipped Smallbones' guide, and didn't bother with any others as there are too many old griefs being waived about. This

[Gendergap] Arbcom election

2015-11-23 Thread Ryan Kaldari
Just a head's up that the ArbCom election has started and you can now officially go vote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:SecurePoll/vote/398 Members of this list may be interested in Smallbones' voter guide for the election: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Smallbones/ACE2015 It focuses

Re: [Gendergap] Arbcom election

2014-12-10 Thread Jim Hayes
one take away is how few voters there are. we have a lot of feminist editathons coming up should we consider recruiting at events to get new editors over 150 edits, with a view of block voting in next year's election? if we organize now, we could run a civility slate of candidates. On Tue, Dec

Re: [Gendergap] Arbcom election

2014-12-10 Thread reguyla
-- Original message-- From: Risker Date: Tue, Dec 9, 2014 11:20 AM To: Addressing gender equity and exploring ways to increase the participation of women within Wikimedia projects.; Subject:Re: [Gendergap] Arbcom election There have never been anywhere near that many people voting for Arbcom

Re: [Gendergap] Arbcom election

2014-12-10 Thread Risker
On 9 December 2014 at 09:37, Jim Hayes slowki...@gmail.com wrote: one take away is how few voters there are. we have a lot of feminist editathons coming up should we consider recruiting at events to get new editors over 150 edits, with a view of block voting in next year's election? if we

Re: [Gendergap] Arbcom election

2014-12-10 Thread reguyla
-- From: Risker Date: Wed, Dec 10, 2014 9:43 AM To: Addressing gender equity and exploring ways to increase the participation of women within Wikimedia projects.; Subject:Re: [Gendergap] Arbcom election On 9 December 2014 at 09:37, Jim Hayes slowki...@gmail.com wrote: one take away is how few

Re: [Gendergap] Arbcom election

2014-12-10 Thread Sarah Stierch
I bet the majority of people 1) have no clue what arbcom is 2) probably don't care much if they do because most people won't end up there So someone will surely have to invest a lot of time and money in educating a lot of people who only edit occasionally about Arbcom. I have been editing

Re: [Gendergap] Arbcom election

2014-12-10 Thread Kerry Raymond
Wikimedia projects. Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Arbcom election I bet the majority of people 1) have no clue what arbcom is 2) probably don't care much if they do because most people won't end up there Exactly. I suspect the irrelevance of ArbCom to so many editors is perhaps a good thing

Re: [Gendergap] Arbcom election

2014-12-10 Thread Daniel and Elizabeth Case
What’s missing from this?: I don’t think most disputes get “resolved”. I think one person simply gives up. Maybe they don’t think the issue is that important, maybe they feel that they don’t have the time to argue it, maybe they feel that the other person involved is too unpleasant to want to

Re: [Gendergap] Arbcom election

2014-12-10 Thread reguyla
] Arbcom election What’s missing from this?: I don’t think most disputes get “resolved”. I think one person simply gives up. Maybe they don’t think the issue is that important, maybe they feel that they don’t have the time to argue it, maybe they feel that the other person involved is too

[Gendergap] Arbcom election

2014-12-09 Thread
Checking the votes at https://vote.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?limit=1000title=Special%3ASecurePoll%2Flist%2F392dir=prev against the English Wikipedia database, shows an interesting statistic. Of the 590 votes cast only *one* voter has an account marked with their gender as female. Obviously many

Re: [Gendergap] Arbcom election

2014-12-09 Thread JJ Marr
What is your proposed solution? On Dec 9, 2014 8:14 AM, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote: Checking the votes at https://vote.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?limit=1000title=Special%3ASecurePoll%2Flist%2F392dir=prev against the English Wikipedia database, shows an interesting statistic. Of the 590

Re: [Gendergap] Arbcom election

2014-12-09 Thread Katie Chan
On 09/12/2014 13:14, Fæ wrote: Checking the votes at https://vote.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?limit=1000title=Special%3ASecurePoll%2Flist%2F392dir=prev against the English Wikipedia database, shows an interesting statistic. Of the 590 votes cast only *one* voter has an account marked with their

Re: [Gendergap] Arbcom election

2014-12-09 Thread Katherine Casey
What proportion of the rest had accounts explicitly marked as male? My first thought is that most people of all genders probably get to that section of Preferences, go Why would mediawiki want to know my gender in the first place? This is dumb and skip it. Or they never fiddle with their

Re: [Gendergap] Arbcom election

2014-12-09 Thread
The statistic comes from querying the English Wikipedia database. This includes a table of user preferences which itself is where the on-wiki preferences stores information like preferred gender. Here's the SQL for anyone interested (it includes other redundant stuff, I was re-using something I

Re: [Gendergap] Arbcom election

2014-12-09 Thread Katie Chan
On 09/12/2014 13:45, Fæ wrote: The statistic comes from querying the English Wikipedia database. This includes a table of user preferences which itself is where the on-wiki preferences stores information like preferred gender. Here's the SQL for anyone interested (it includes other redundant

Re: [Gendergap] Arbcom election

2014-12-09 Thread Risker
Going to be honest here, I think the more interesting statistic is that there are only 590 voters in an active user base of about 30,000. I think this may reflect a change in the degree of importance the community places on the Arbitration Committee. On the female editors participating front,

Re: [Gendergap] Arbcom election

2014-12-09 Thread
OOPS, Absolutely correct, I had a programme error. Re-running this gives a more credible set of numbers: Total voted: 590 Total identified with gender: 255 Male 224 Female 31 So open males = 38%, open females = 5%. Which indicates that a good *guesstimate* of the number of women voting was

Re: [Gendergap] Arbcom election

2014-12-09 Thread Carol Moore dc
On 12/9/2014 9:08 AM, Risker wrote: Going to be honest here, I think the more interesting statistic is that there are only 590 voters in an active user base of about 30,000. I think this may reflect a change in the degree of importance the community places on the Arbitration Committee. They

[Gendergap] Arbcom election

2014-12-09 Thread Tim Davenport
Per Fae's message: OOPS, Absolutely correct, I had a programme error. Re-running this gives a more credible set of numbers: Total voted: 590 Total identified with gender: 255 Male 224 Female 31 So open males = 38%, open females = 5%. Which indicates that a good *guesstimate* of the number of

Re: [Gendergap] Arbcom election

2014-12-09 Thread Risker
There have never been anywhere near that many people voting for Arbcom elections; in fact, that's more people than voted in the last Board of Trustees elections for the elected seats, and hugely more than get a vote for the chapter/affiliate-selected Board seats. The fact of the matter is that

Re: [Gendergap] Arbcom election

2014-12-09 Thread Daniel and Elizabeth Case
There have never been anywhere near that many people voting for Arbcom elections; in fact, that's more people than voted in the last Board of Trustees elections for the elected seats, and hugely more than get a vote for the chapter/affiliate-selected Board seats. I wonder if the apparent