Re: [Gendergap] How to use Wiki videos

[Pharos]

Hi Carissa et al,

This is the pan-wiki meetup in Portland, you may well already be
familiar with this one:

http://pdx.wiki.org/Welcome_to_Portland_WikiWednesday!

For Mexico City, I suggest you get in touch with the group working to
form the Wikimedia Mexico chapter:

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_México

Thanks,
Richard
(User:Pharos)

On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 7:09 PM, Lennart Guldbrandsson
l_guldbrands...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Thanks for the ideas.

 About wikimeetups: everybody else is waiting for you to announce one. Once
 you do, they will come.

 About the culture: I think Steven Walling's presentation is one of the most
 succinct:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEkF5o6KPNI

 Good luck with the editing.

 Best wishes,

 Lennart

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 Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 17:04:15 -0600
 From: carissawodeho...@gmail.com
 To: gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org
 Subject: Re: [Gendergap] How to use Wiki videos

 Hi,
 Yep I do find both of those videos too basic
 (http://www.howcast.com/videos/317521-How-To-Edit-a-Wikipedia-Article and
 http://www.commoncraft.com/wikipedia-video). I get the nuts and bolts of how
 to click around, I know basic html when I see it, and I remember neutral
 tone and proper citations from college and time in publishing (but gotta
 love a video on the internet that explains that you need an internet
 connection). The Howcast referenced the Wiki:Cite page, which I then find
 confusing because I don't get when to use each citation method.

 A Strunk  White version of the rules is what I need! There's so many women
 in publishing, that could be a good group to target for women on Wiki
 involvement, as someone said before. I just need to know how wiki editing is
 similar and different from AP Style, for example.

 I would also be interested in a video that explains the community, which is
 both one of the primary barriers and primary motivations I have for
 participating. I didn't know about barnstars and awards, for example. Then I
 eventually found this Editor Assistance page
 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Editor_assistance) which looks like
 something handy-- I didn't know there was a place to ask for help. Then,
 what are user talk, user boxes, who gives awards, who are some key figures
 (Jimbo, etc), what is the user/editor/moderator relationship, and what are
 some things that can happen once I start editing and interacting. That's
 what a video would be handy for. It all feels like trying to get into Lost
 in the last season-- all these time tunnels and smoke monsters that I
 couldn't trace to their original form if I tried.

 Sadly, I see no meet ups in Portland or Mexico City, yet...



 Thanks,
 Carissa


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Re: [Gendergap] How to use Wiki videos

[Ryan Kaldari]

A video incorporating the new RefToolbar (the thing that appears when 
you click Cite in the editor) would be helpful in this regard. 
Citation templates and citation formatting are definitely one of the 
biggest barriers to truly integrating newbies into Wikipedia editing 
(i.e. getting beyond doing spelling corrections). I think that people 
would be a lot less intimidated if they knew they could just paste in an 
ISBN number and click a button and the citation is automatically created 
for them. (I remember my own amazement at learning this.)


Ryan Kaldari

On 3/15/11 4:04 PM, Carissa Wodehouse wrote:

Hi,
Yep I do find both of those videos too basic 
(http://www.howcast.com/videos/317521-How-To-Edit-a-Wikipedia-Article 
and http://www.commoncraft.com/wikipedia-video). I get the nuts and 
bolts of how to click around, I know basic html when I see it, and I 
remember neutral tone and proper citations from college and time in 
publishing (but gotta love a video on the internet that explains that 
you need an internet connection). The Howcast referenced the Wiki:Cite 
page, which I then find confusing because I don't get when to use each 
citation method.


A Strunk  White version of the rules is what I need! There's so many 
women in publishing, that could be a good group to target for women on 
Wiki involvement, as someone said before. I just need to know how wiki 
editing is similar and different from AP Style, for example.


I would also be interested in a video that explains the community, 
which is both one of the primary barriers and primary motivations I 
have for participating. I didn't know about barnstars and awards, for 
example. Then I eventually found this Editor Assistance page 
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Editor_assistance) which looks 
like something handy-- I didn't know there was a place to ask for 
help. Then, what are user talk, user boxes, who gives awards, who are 
some key figures (Jimbo, etc), what is the user/editor/moderator 
relationship, and what are some things that can happen once I start 
editing and interacting. That's what a video would be handy for. It 
all feels like trying to get into Lost in the last season-- all these 
time tunnels and smoke monsters that I couldn't trace to their 
original form if I tried.


Sadly, I see no meet ups in Portland or Mexico City, yet...

Thanks,
Carissa


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