Re: [Gendergap] Question for the Foundation about photographs of women

2011-09-18 Thread Pete Forsyth
Update, and a request: The discussion thread John started has been very active, with I think about 30 posts from a wide variety of customer service (OTRS) volunteers. Summary: * Many people agree that there is an important concern about readers who find personal/traumatic content about

Re: [Gendergap] Question for the Foundation about photographs of women

2011-09-18 Thread Dominic
I think we need to be clearer about who is the audience here. It seems to be directed at the customer, rather than at Wikimedians, but then some of the text is unnecessarily detailed and distracting. We have to assume that most people are not actually reading pages like this for comprehension,

Re: [Gendergap] Question for the Foundation about photographs of women

2011-09-12 Thread Sarah Stierch
I applied for Commons OTRS today... Sarah Sent via iPhone - I apologize in advance for my shortness or errors! :) On Sep 12, 2011, at 5:45 PM, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com wrote: It seems like we have strong

Re: [Gendergap] Question for the Foundation about photographs of women

2011-09-03 Thread phoebe ayers
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 8:00 PM, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote: Several women, including on WikiProject Feminism on the English Wikipedia, have recently expressed concern about the number of photographs of women's body parts that Wikimedia hosts, particularly regarding the issue of

Re: [Gendergap] Question for the Foundation about photographs of women

2011-09-03 Thread Fred Bauder
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 22:22, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: As Sarah Stierch points out, our images of sexuality and reproduction are crap, broadly speaking, and our paperwork/processes are self-evidently not good for attracting high quality photographs.  What processes should we

[Gendergap] Question for the Foundation about photographs of women

2011-09-02 Thread Sarah
Several women, including on WikiProject Feminism on the English Wikipedia, have recently expressed concern about the number of photographs of women's body parts that Wikimedia hosts, particularly regarding the issue of permission. It's far from clear in many cases that the women have given

Re: [Gendergap] Question for the Foundation about photographs of women

2011-09-02 Thread Fred Bauder
Several women, including on WikiProject Feminism on the English Wikipedia, have recently expressed concern about the number of photographs of women's body parts that Wikimedia hosts, particularly regarding the issue of permission. It's far from clear in many cases that the women have given

Re: [Gendergap] Question for the Foundation about photographs of women

2011-09-02 Thread Sarah
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 21:00, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote: The matter is discussed at Commons:Photographs of identifiable people https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/wiki/Commons:Photographs_of_identifiable_people Fred Thanks for the link, Fred. It seems that page

Re: [Gendergap] Question for the Foundation about photographs of women

2011-09-02 Thread Sarah
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 21:33, Sarah Stierch sarah.stie...@gmail.com wrote: I also think (after working in the fashion and photography private sector for almost 10 years before non-profits) that model releases are as important as OTRS copyright releases when it comes to sexual content on

Re: [Gendergap] Question for the Foundation about photographs of women

2011-09-02 Thread John Vandenberg
If someone sees an image of themself which they want removed, they can 1. email OTRS. whether the request is received by a volunteer and/or anonymous person shouldn't matter. The OTRS policies do matter, esp. the privacy policy. For added privacy, they should email oversight-en-wp or the

Re: [Gendergap] Question for the Foundation about photographs of women

2011-09-02 Thread Pete Forsyth
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 9:22 PM, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: I would like to throw this back in a positive direction. The task of deleting poor quality photographs (and metadata/provenance/paperwork is part of quality) is made much easier if we have good quality photographs of