Re: [Gendergap] What to do about sexism when we see it on WP?

2011-03-18 Thread Sarah
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 15:34, Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org wrote: The behavior you describe is all too common on Wikipedia (and even worse on Commons). I could quote some much more blatant examples than the one you cite, but I'll spare everyone the groans. I think the problem is that

Re: [Gendergap] What to do about sexism when we see it on WP?

2011-03-18 Thread Andreas Kolbe
...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Gendergap] What to do about sexism when we see it on WP? To: Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Friday, 18 March, 2011, 13:53 On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 15:34, Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org wrote: The behavior

Re: [Gendergap] What to do about sexism when we see it on WP?

2011-03-18 Thread Fred Bauder
However, I also do worry about double standards. For example, earlier somewhere someone suggested we visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ochre where a barebreasted woman was used to illustrate the use of it as a body paint in Africa. I made the point that I really would like to know if men

[Gendergap] What to do about sexism when we see it on WP?

2011-03-17 Thread Sarah
I saw an incident recently on WP that's fairly common, but it's not clear to me what we should do about it, if anything. A woman editor did something that a few male editors didn't like, and she was taken to task for it. In the course of the discussion, the Wikipedia biography of a woman was

Re: [Gendergap] What to do about sexism when we see it on WP?

2011-03-17 Thread Ryan Kaldari
The behavior you describe is all too common on Wikipedia (and even worse on Commons). I could quote some much more blatant examples than the one you cite, but I'll spare everyone the groans. I think the problem is that most guys do not understand that creating an unwanted sexualized

Re: [Gendergap] What to do about sexism when we see it on WP?

2011-03-17 Thread Fred Bauder
I saw an incident recently on WP that's fairly common, but it's not clear to me what we should do about it, if anything. A woman editor did something that a few male editors didn't like, and she was taken to task for it. In the course of the discussion, the Wikipedia biography of a woman was

Re: [Gendergap] What to do about sexism when we see it on WP?

2011-03-17 Thread George Herbert
Just for information - Whoever starts actioning this needs to be careful. The community lashbacks over trying to limit abusive behavior in other areas (the civility arguments, etc) have been severe at times. A lot of men will take That was sexist and is creating a hostile environment, please

Re: [Gendergap] What to do about sexism when we see it on WP?

2011-03-17 Thread John Vandenberg
On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 12:59 PM, Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org wrote: Nice find Fred. I hadn't read those before. It sounds like revision deletion might be an option in more extreme cases. Less extreme cases should be taken here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikiquette_alerts