Re: [Gendergap] the state of civility on en.wiki

2011-10-28 Thread Gillian White
Apologies for the formatting - the machine stripped the breaks that would have made my post readable. G (I'm a workman blaming the tools ...) It should have looked like this: I’d like to agree with Daniel that “purgative rituals” should be added to the repertoire of ways to deal with these

Re: [Gendergap] the state of civility on en.wiki

2011-10-28 Thread Ryan Kaldari
I also believe that ArbCom _could_ provide good solutions for these situations, but the existing model isn't very scalable and doesn't work for many cases. One potential solution would be for ArbCom to offer the services of a prosecutor for certain cases, when the person bringing the complaint

Re: [Gendergap] the state of civility on en.wiki

2011-10-28 Thread Fiona Apps
I hate to be overly simplistic but I find in these circumstances that IAR applies. Just be courteous to all users involved, even those accused of incivility, and use the Socratic method. Question them about their actions in a way that suggests that you are not taking sides (which as an

Re: [Gendergap] the state of civility on en.wiki

2011-10-28 Thread Lady of Shalott
While I understand the frustrations in this thread, it does us no good to resort to incivil behavior here, even regarding a person who is [most likely] not part of this list. I respectfully ask that we refrain from comments like By god, I hate that man. Thank you, LadyofShalott P.S. I realize

Re: [Gendergap] No Sources - argh!

2011-10-28 Thread Erin O'Rourke
Thanks Kaldari and Andreas, I appreciate the feedback! -- Erin O'Rourke http://erin-orourke.com ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap

Re: [Gendergap] the state of civility on en.wiki

2011-10-28 Thread Daniel and Elizabeth Case
The use of the term collegial to describe the editing milieu. Anyone who has spent much time in the academe will recognize a lot of the problem behaviours we see on our own project, particularly personalization of disputes, which is one of the major elements leading to the perception of