Re: Podlings not following ASF release policy

2019-02-08 Thread Justin Mclean
HI, > From what I can see with httpd, the issue is the same(?) Not quite as I not see any release candidates listed. Thanks, Justin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands,

Re: Podlings not following ASF release policy

2019-02-08 Thread Daniel Gruno
On 2/9/19 8:37 AM, Justin Mclean wrote: Hi, IMO either way it should be ok because It’s not OK as it doesn’t agree with ASF release policy. You can’t provide release candidates to the general public and call them releases. I do see that several ASF projects seem to avoid this issue but I’m

Re: Podlings not following ASF release policy

2019-02-08 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > IMO either way it should be ok because It’s not OK as it doesn’t agree with ASF release policy. You can’t provide release candidates to the general public and call them releases. I do see that several ASF projects seem to avoid this issue but I’m not sure how they do it. (See for

Re: Podlings not following ASF release policy

2019-02-08 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > When I played around with maven-release-plugin today, I found out that > Github would automatically generate the release at " > github.com/apache/incubator-xxx/release" when we update the tag. I think > that some projects may inadvertently create a release on Github for their > release

Re: Podlings not following ASF release policy

2019-02-08 Thread Felix Cheung
I’d agree- it’s a “feature” of GitHub and I didn’t see a way to turn off “turning a git tag into a release” I see that there is a API to edit a release to say it is “pre-release” https://developer.github.com/v3/repos/releases/#edit-a-release IMO either way it should be ok because a) the tag is

Re: Podlings not following ASF release policy

2019-02-08 Thread Seunghyun Lee
Hi all, I'm Seunghyun who's working on the first Apache release for Pinot project. When I played around with maven-release-plugin today, I found out that Github would automatically generate the release at " github.com/apache/incubator-xxx/release" when we update the tag. I think that some

Re: Podlings not following ASF release policy

2019-02-08 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Julian, A perfect example! I think we should add a checkbox to the podling report where the podling indicates when they are fully in compliance with release policy. Until that is done we don’t worry. Additionally, Infra could tag and “release” with appropriate description when they move a

Re: Podlings not following ASF release policy

2019-02-08 Thread Justin Mclean
HI, > We allowed Druid to continue making releases outside of Apache during > incubation because ASF releases were not possible. There were various reasons > - they could not release from main line because IP transfer had not been > completed (if I recall correctly), and they also needed to

Re: Podlings not following ASF release policy

2019-02-08 Thread ???? Sheng Wu
If we don't want the unapproved release happens in this case, I think we should asked them to give an exact date of joining the incubator. The new incubator project community should know, after the proposal accepted and with the date deadline, we don't allow to do unapproved release. And we

Re: Podlings not following ASF release policy

2019-02-08 Thread Julian Hyde
I’m a mentor of Druid. We allowed Druid to continue making releases outside of Apache during incubation because ASF releases were not possible. There were various reasons - they could not release from main line because IP transfer had not been completed (if I recall correctly), and they also

Re: Podlings not following ASF release policy

2019-02-08 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, One of the issues I’ve seen is that project continues to make releases in GitHub after being accepted into the incubator, in some case is this because the repo hasn’t been moved over yet, in other cases it’s because they believe that the code base is not Apache ready. What should we do in

Podlings not following ASF release policy

2019-02-08 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, So I just checked the next bunch of podlings to report to see if we have any other issues with ASF releases policy and sadly we do and again it larger than I expected. Some of these are minor issues and easily fixed, some are not. In a couple of cases I may not of looked deeply enough into

Re: Unapproved Sharding Sphere releases

2019-02-08 Thread ???? Sheng Wu
I support move than copy too. Move is better, not just for keeping star, fork and watch. These are also important too. The more important is, GitHub provides repo address auto redirect. If the user or article links to the old repo, it will forward to the new one(Apache one) automatically.

Re: Renaming repos and security concerns

2019-02-08 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > We need to make sure that pre-Apache releases whether source or binary are > treated in a fair way. As long are they are not in after the date of incubation and clearly marked I see no issues. > An über-comment - let’s be exceedingly careful with time limits for > “compliance”. What

Re: Tying Dockerhub into development and release management

2019-02-08 Thread Matteo Merli
On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 3:41 PM Justin Mclean wrote: > > Hi, > > > If projects want to make convenience binaries available for installation > > via Docker and DockerHub, then it seems like we need an official Apache > > DockerHub repository. Do we have one of those, or are folks just publishing >

Re: Renaming repos and security concerns

2019-02-08 Thread Dave Fisher
> On Feb 8, 2019, at 1:36 PM, Justin Mclean wrote: > > HI, > > In the thread on guidelines for distributions I suggested some common naming > to help with trademarks, branding and be in line with release policy. > > There's a possible security issue here, as people could (in theory) take

Renaming repos and security concerns

2019-02-08 Thread Justin Mclean
HI, In the thread on guidelines for distributions I suggested some common naming to help with trademarks, branding and be in line with release policy. There's a possible security issue here, as people could (in theory) take over the old name and put something malicious there if the old name

Re: [DISCUSS] Guidelines for distribution of incubating artefacts on other platforms

2019-02-08 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > - Convenience binary artifact releases need to be made from approved voted > on approved ASF releases. OK. > Wait, you mean binary releases, not just source code tags? Binary releases [1] (see step 7) and unapproved release are possible in GitHub. Once I get some more feedback I’l put

Re: [DISCUSS] Guidelines for distribution of incubating artefacts on other platforms

2019-02-08 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Fri, Feb 8, 2019 at 12:27 PM Justin Mclean wrote: > Hi, > > > This sentence is very confusing to me. If the release is "unofficial” > then it can't be subject to ASF's policy, no? > > I used the word unofficial as some of these artefacts are connivance > binaries. I and don’t want to open up

Re: Unapproved Sharding Sphere releases

2019-02-08 Thread Chris Lambertus
> On Feb 7, 2019, at 1:52 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > > > >> On Feb 7, 2019, at 1:44 PM, Craig Russell wrote: [snip] >> >> Larger discussion: Is there a reason for projects coming into incubation to >> have the old repository moved (i.e. renamed) instead of being copied? I >> cannot think

Re: [DISCUSS] Guidelines for distribution of incubating artefacts on other platforms

2019-02-08 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > This sentence is very confusing to me. If the release is "unofficial” then it > can't be subject to ASF's policy, no? I used the word unofficial as some of these artefacts are connivance binaries. I and don’t want to open up the “we only release source" can of worms. > I am actually not

Re: [DISCUSS] Guidelines for distribution of incubating artefacts on other platforms

2019-02-08 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
Great effort getting it all documented! Would really love to see this converge ASAP. On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 11:08 PM Justin Mclean wrote: > Hi, > > Feedback welcome. If you think anything here is not in line with the ASF > release and distribution policy please speak up. Currently it’s not

Re: [DISCUSS] Training (incubating) Proposal

2019-02-08 Thread Christofer Dutz
Sign me up ( Am 08.02.19, 11:55 schrieb "Lars Francke" : One more thing: We've got three mentors. If anyone else would like to volunteer we won't say no :) I've used the E-Mail addresses from your mails in the proposal. Feel free to update to an @apache.org address if you

Re: [DISCUSS] Training (incubating) Proposal

2019-02-08 Thread Lars Francke
One more thing: We've got three mentors. If anyone else would like to volunteer we won't say no :) I've used the E-Mail addresses from your mails in the proposal. Feel free to update to an @apache.org address if you want to. On Fri, Feb 8, 2019 at 11:05 AM Lars Francke wrote: > Thanks to the

Re: [DISCUSS] Training (incubating) Proposal

2019-02-08 Thread Lars Francke
Thanks to the three of you. Those arguments make sense to me and we indeed have a few "newcomers" with us (that includes me in a non-committer role) so I've changed my opinion and think the Incubator way would be the best. I'll edit the Wiki proposal (and add Christofer whom I've forgotten,

Re: [DISCUSS] Training (incubating) Proposal

2019-02-08 Thread Myrle Krantz
My initial thought was: this should go straight to TLP: Training should be done by people who know what they're training about: whether it be the Apache Way or a specific project. All the committers will likely be people who've at least reached committer status in a project, and most of them will

Aw: Re: Tying Dockerhub into development and release management

2019-02-08 Thread Jochen Theodorou
> Gesendet: Freitag, 08. Februar 2019 um 04:58 Uhr > Von: "Dave Fisher" > An: general@incubator.apache.org > Betreff: Re: Tying Dockerhub into development and release management [...] > > On Feb 7, 2019, at 7:51 PM, Chris Lambertus wrote: [...] > >> On Feb 7, 2019, at 6:47 PM, Justin Mclean

Re: [DISCUSS] Training (incubating) Proposal

2019-02-08 Thread Sönke Liebau
Hi, after spending some time thinking about this I also tend towards the Incubator route as I am sure this will help build and grow an active community and processes. Best regards, Sönke On Fri, Feb 8, 2019 at 6:38 AM Justin Mclean wrote: > > Hi, > > > discussion seems to have died down.

Re: Suitable project name search (was: [PROPOSAL] New blockchain project: Cava)

2019-02-08 Thread Pierre Smits
Hi Antoine, First of all: thank you for the LinkedIn accept. More information about the PNS (Podling Name Search) can be found via [1]. After having yourself familiarised with that, I suggest to register a JIRA ticket with project 'PODLING NAME SEARCH' for the new project name, see [2]. I also