Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-10 Thread Phil Steitz
-1 I do not think that accepting this podling is in the best interest of the ASF. Absent explicit criteria / principles governing what we accept into the Incubator, I have to apply informal judgment here and I am voting -1 for the following reasons: 0) I think the ASF has a responsibility to

Re: OpenOffice: were are we now?

2011-06-06 Thread Phil Steitz
On 6/5/11 11:02 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: On 6/6/2011 12:47 AM, Phil Steitz wrote: On 6/5/11 10:16 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: ASF members wish to devote considerable time and energy to this project, so exactly who the hell are you to decide what they should and shouldn't devote

Re: OpenOffice: were are we now?

2011-06-06 Thread Phil Steitz
On 6/5/11 11:26 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: On 6/6/2011 1:06 AM, Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote: On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Phil Steitz phil.ste...@gmail.com wrote: On 6/5/11 10:16 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: Wow. Did it occur to you that the original project, Apache httpd

Re: OpenOffice: were are we now?

2011-06-05 Thread Phil Steitz
On 6/5/11 11:21 AM, Niall Pemberton wrote: On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I have tried to follow as much as emails as possible but it's overwhelming. Anyway I feel that several questions do not longer belong to the pre-incubation

Re: OpenOffice: were are we now?

2011-06-05 Thread Phil Steitz
On 6/5/11 3:51 PM, Niall Pemberton wrote: On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 9:27 PM, Phil Steitz phil.ste...@gmail.com wrote: On 6/5/11 11:21 AM, Niall Pemberton wrote: On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I have tried to follow as much as emails

Re: OpenOffice: were are we now?

2011-06-05 Thread Phil Steitz
On 6/5/11 10:16 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: On 6/5/2011 11:43 PM, Phil Steitz wrote: Agreed. I wish I had a clearer idea of what constitutes a good reason to reject an incubator proposal on principle, though - even just a good enough reason to reject this one. As long as there is some

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache OGNL

2011-04-08 Thread Phil Steitz
On 4/8/11 7:06 AM, Ralph Goers wrote: I don't recall the Commons PMC saying the project needs to be renamed when it voted to sponsor this project. If that is necessary I'm sure they will let the project know. We voted to sponsor OGNL. Martin is right that our policy is to avoid the cutesy

Re: Voting waiting period

2011-02-05 Thread Phil Steitz
On 2/5/11 4:16 PM, Scott O'Bryan wrote: Bertrand, I agree. The good thing about a vibrant community is that they generally enforce this. All I'm saying is this shouldn't be a must requirement, rather it should be a shall and we can let the individual communities work out what exceptions

Re: [PROPOSAL] Validation incubator for JSR-303 Bean Validation

2009-12-30 Thread Phil Steitz
Joe Schaefer wrote: - Original Message From: ant elder antel...@apache.org To: general@incubator.apache.org Sent: Fri, December 11, 2009 5:22:13 AM Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Validation incubator for JSR-303 Bean Validation On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Niall Pemberton wrote:

Re: [PROPOSAL] Validation incubator for JSR-303 Bean Validation

2009-12-30 Thread Phil Steitz
Joe Schaefer wrote: - Original Message From: Phil Steitz phil.ste...@gmail.com To: general@incubator.apache.org Sent: Wed, December 30, 2009 1:30:13 PM Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Validation incubator for JSR-303 Bean Validation Joe Schaefer wrote: - Original Message From

Re: [PROPOSAL] Validation incubator for JSR-303 Bean Validation

2009-12-30 Thread Phil Steitz
Joe Schaefer wrote: - Original Message From: Phil Steitz phil.ste...@gmail.com To: general@incubator.apache.org Sent: Wed, December 30, 2009 3:10:47 PM Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Validation incubator for JSR-303 Bean Validation Joe Schaefer wrote: - Original Message From

Re: [DISCUSS] Sanselan as a Commons library

2009-04-18 Thread Phil Steitz
Craig L Russell wrote: Hi, The Sanselan podling [1] has been incubating since 2007 and has achieved most of the goals in incubation: Code has been released [2] according to the incubator release guidelines Status is up to date [3] Community mailing lists are responded to promptly [5] JIRA

[Result] [Vote] Accept JRS project for incubation

2007-07-03 Thread Phil Steitz
This vote has passed. Incubator PMC (binding) 8 +1 votes (martinc, mvdb, pzf, jukka, brett, rdonkin, leosimons, clr) no - votes 5 +1 non-binding votes, no non-binding - votes I will start the process of making infrastructure requests and clearing IP. Thanks! Phil

[Vote] Accept JRS project for incubation

2007-06-28 Thread Phil Steitz
project * Project Name: JRS * Project Key: JRS Initial set of committers --- * Brendan McCarthy (brendan_dot_mccarthy_at_ gorillalogic_dot_com) * Tony Ambrozie (tony_dot_a_dot_ambrozie_at_aexp_dot_com) * Phil Steitz (psteitz_at_apache_dot_org) * Ian Gray

[Proposal] Java Resource Simulator (JRS)

2007-06-24 Thread Phil Steitz
gorillalogic_dot_com) * Tony Ambrozie (tony_dot_a_dot_ambrozie_at_aexp_dot_com) * Phil Steitz (psteitz_at_apache_dot_org) * Ian Gray (ian_dot_d_dot_gray_at_aexp_dot_com) * Rahul Akolkar (rahul_at_apache_dot_org) * Sebastian Bazley (sebb_at_apache_dot_org) * Martin van den Bemt

Re: [Proposal] Java Resource Simulator (JRS)

2007-06-24 Thread Phil Steitz
On 6/24/07, Leo Simons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 24, 2007, at 8:24 PM, Phil Steitz wrote: This is a proposal to develop a Java-based interface response capture/playback tool. Interesting proposal. Seems useful. Documentation - Documentation is available

Re: [Proposal] Java Resource Simulator (JRS)

2007-06-24 Thread Phil Steitz
On 6/24/07, Eelco Hillenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What have others done to workaround the bootstrapping problem for code that is currently internally licensed / restricted distribution before the proposal is accepted and a grant can be executed? My understanding is that whether projects

Re: [Proposal] Java Resource Simulator (JRS)

2007-06-24 Thread Phil Steitz
On 6/24/07, Henning Schmiedehausen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this a legal issue (you need clearance) or just a matter of well, there are a bazillion of wrong/strange/bad license headers with (C)'s inside that we want to clean up first and need time? We have clearance to execute a code grant

Re: [VOTE] Should we treat incubator releases differently to normal releases

2007-03-25 Thread Phil Steitz
On 3/21/07, robert burrell donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/19/07, Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/15/07, Craig McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If these are indeed going to be official releases, we should totally dispense with the requirements for -incubating in artifact

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Synapse

2006-12-28 Thread Phil Steitz
On 12/26/06, Paul Fremantle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Synapse incubator is therefore asking the Incubator PMC to graduate the Synapse project into the Apache Web Services PMC. Synapse heavily integrates with other WS projects including Axis2, Axiom, Sandesha, Rampart. Please send in your

Request to be added to Incubator PMC

2006-12-21 Thread Phil Steitz
I would like to join the Incubator PMC. I am an ASF member and, pending a positive acceptance vote, will be serving as a mentor for the new River project. Thanks! Phil - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For

Re: [VOTE] Incubate new podling, River (nee Braintree, nee..., nee Jini)

2006-12-20 Thread Phil Steitz
+1 Phil On 12/20/06, Niclas Hedhman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 21 December 2006 11:46, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: [x] +1 Accept River as a new podling as described below [ ] -1 Do not accept the new podling (provide reason, please) non-binding. Cheers Niclas

[IP Clearnance] Jakarta Commons - Mantissa donation

2006-11-12 Thread Phil Steitz
The Jakarta Commons community has voted to accept a donation from Luc Maisonoble of the Mantissa math library, for inclusion in Jakarta Commons Math. The IP clearance form is checked into /ip-clearance as jakarta-commons-mantissa.xml. The source is here:

Re: primary email, balanced use of IRC

2006-06-24 Thread Phil Steitz
On 6/23/06, David Crossley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip/ Being there in real time is also difficult. This effectively cuts out a lot of people. For partly selfish reasons, I would hate to see apache projects trend toward more synchronous communications requirements. That is why the

Re: [Proposal] Jini Project

2006-06-22 Thread Phil Steitz
On 6/21/06, Geir Magnusson Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Leo Simons wrote: On Mon, Jun 19, 2006 at 10:15:38AM -0400, Jim Hurley wrote: Let the records show that Geir is listed as initial committer too yet probably doesn't work at sun, unless he switched companies again :) Hey, it's been 6

Re: [Proposal] Jini Project

2006-06-22 Thread Phil Steitz
On 6/22/06, Mark Brouwer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Niclas Hedhman wrote: On Wednesday 21 June 2006 19:19, Leo Simons wrote: What I'm missing is an idea of the interaction between jini.org and this proposed new apache project, and an idea of the interaction between the JCP process and the

Re: [Proposal] Jini Project

2006-06-20 Thread Phil Steitz
+1 (as in will help). From the text below and the comments in http://archives.java.sun.com/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0604L=jini-usersF=S=P=4029, I assume that the scope of the project will just be the core infrastructure. But you also mention related utilities and tools. Can you clarify a little more

Re: JDO2 Snapshots

2005-08-08 Thread Phil Steitz
Dittert, Eric wrote: From: Noel J. Bergman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 6:40 PM As I said, it is about balance. The community that we most care about during Incubation is the developer community, not the end-user community. I could go so far as to say that a bit of

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache TSIK

2005-05-21 Thread Phil Steitz
+1 Phil Granqvist, Hans wrote: Proposal This is a proposal to submit the Trust Services Integration Toolkit (TSIK) to ASF. TSIK is a Java toolkit that VeriSign has been developing since 2001, and it is the basis of several products developed by VeriSign. The intent with Apache

RE: [VOTE] Directory exiting Incubator

2005-02-07 Thread Phil Steitz
[ X] Graduate the Directory Project [ ] Abstain [ ] Keep incubating the Directory Project --Phil - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[RESULT] [VOTE] Release [naming] 0.8

2005-01-12 Thread Phil Steitz
The vote on directory-dev to release a technology preview release of directory-naming 0.8 from the incubator has passed, with 6 +1 votes (Phil Steitz, Enrique Rodriguez, Brett Porter, Alex Karasulu, Stephen McConnell, Vince Tence) and one +0 (Niclas Hedhman). The full vote thread is here

Re: [VOTE] Accept MyFaces for Incubation

2004-07-10 Thread Phil Steitz
Noel J. Bergman wrote: See: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/MyFacesProposal [X] Accept MyFaces into the Incubator One small comment: since Wiki pages can change at any time, in the future it might be best to have votes reference static html (or inlined) proposals instead of wiki pages. The +1

Re: Add 'practice' PMC structure to projects in incubation

2003-11-25 Thread Phil Steitz
Noel J. Bergman wrote: Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Committers could be given commit access long before having project member status, and would thus be able to commit but not vote. This makes it possible to keep a high bar for membership of the project but a lower bar for committing. Is this

Re: Getting the distribution onto a download site somewhere ...

2003-09-22 Thread Phil Steitz
Jochen Wiedmann wrote: Noel J. Bergman wrote: I am not on the Incubator PMC, but I feel that a project still bearing incubator status should not be permitted to make a Release. I do not know what exactly you define as a release. Is that more than a distribution? An incubator project is

Re: [PROPOSAL] PMC Vote to incubate Directory Project

2003-09-22 Thread Phil Steitz
Noel J. Bergman wrote: We should ask ourselves if we expect to provide a home for extended Perl, C or whatever APIs, naming services for those languages, etc. If the answer is yes, then fine, we can all agree and move forward. my opinion is that standards-based Directory + Identity services

Re: [PROPOSAL] PMC Vote to incubate Directory Project

2003-09-21 Thread Phil Steitz
Stephen McConnell wrote: Phil: Greg posted a message back on the 18th noting that a PMC vote on the entry of the project to the incubator would be kicked off under the private [EMAIL PROTECTED] list. I don't know the specifics of Incubator voting policies but I guessing we will see a vote

Re: [PROPOSAL] PMC Vote to incubate Directory Project

2003-09-21 Thread Phil Steitz
Roy T. Fielding wrote: Greg posted a message back on the 18th noting that a PMC vote on the entry of the project to the incubator would be kicked off under the private [EMAIL PROTECTED] list. I don't know the specifics of Incubator voting policies but I guessing we will see a vote result early