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Thanks for all the +1’s, but this is the discussion, not the vote, the vote
comes next.
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> I would be willing to be an additional mentor or join the initial set of
> team members if there is interest.
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That is also my expectation.
See for instance:
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Also see our distribution guidelines [1] for other important information on
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1. https://incubator.apache.org/guides/distribution.html
to the foundation, events,
license, thanks, security, and privacy. [1]
I suggest you engage with your mentors and get them to provide advice here.
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+1 binding. We already have other requirements for the project to indicate that
they are incubating (e.g. website disclaimer, DISCLAIMER, and release artifact
name) that are more visible than having it in repo names.
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HI,
> Thanks for letting me know.
> I have removed those dependencies.
What goes in the license file is any 3rd party licenses that are included in
the source release, not those that are dependencies. But unless it is optional,
you also can’t have any GPL dependencies.
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I assume you mean [1] I’ve not looked at it in detail, but I note you include
GPL licensed code. GPL-licensed code is Category X and can’t be used in an ASF
project.
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1. https://github.com/apache/incubator-resilientdb/blob/master/LICENSE
./node_modules/lodash.union/index.js./node_modules/lodash.difference/index.js./node_modules/brace-expansion/index.js./node_modules/ignore/index.js./node_modules/once/once.js./node_modules/inherits/inherits.js
...and many other files in node_modules
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Hi,
The CC BY 4.0 is not compatible with the Apache license, so I would avoid it if
you can. While the Apache license is intended for code, it’s OK to use for
documentation as well.
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> On 2 May 2024, at 1:25 pm, tison wrote:
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> Hi,
>
> IIUC, the Apa
Hi,
> Thanks for your clarification. We have submitted a PR[1] to address this
> issue. I believe this issue will be resolved quickly.
>
> [1] https://github.com/apache/incubator-streampark/pull/3689
That looks good to me, thanks.
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l be an issue. Copying an
earlier version of a file is still an issue that needs to be dealt with. Even
copying 5% of something needs to be treated correctly. The files seem to have
permissive licenses, so there is no category X licensing issue, at least.
, but it
is difficult to tell. I think you should run SCANOSS
(https://www.softwaretransparency.org/download) on your release and look into
its results.
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1. streampark-console/streampark-console-webapp/LICENSE
pache.org/download
The link to the source download and keys and hashes is broken.
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not be used by the majority of users.
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> On 24 Apr 2024, at 9:48 pm, tison wrote:
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> Thanks for your participation!
>
> For people who support drop the incubator- prefix, please describe you
> opinion on:
>
>> 3. It's still significant
developer used AI
to generate the code, and it’s duplicated that code from somewhere. Do you know
if that is the case?
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[5][6]
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1. /javascript/packages/fury/lib/gen/datetime.ts
2. /javascript/packages/fury/lib/gen/index.ts
3. /javascript/packages/fury/lib/fury.ts
4. /javascript/packages/fury/lib/classResolver.ts
5.
/java/fury-core/src/main
project. I will
note that Hertzbeat put the GitHub name in their propopal, and no one said
anything about it.
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As Sdap has just graduated, it doesn’t need to report.
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On Wed, 17 Apr 2024, 1:47 pm Willem Jiang, wrote:
> With the "incubator" profix, it's easy for us to tell if the project
> belongs to the incubator and it is still in the incubating process.
> Curr
. is BSD licensed, so just put the text in LICENSE
2. is Apache licensed, It’s a good idea to list that in the LICENSE file (but
not required). It has no NOTICE file, so there is nothing to go in your NOTICE
file.
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> On 13 Apr 2024, at 3:53 pm, Shawn Yang wrote:
>
Hi,
We are missing a large number of reports this month. Mentors, can you please
help your projects submit reports on time.
We are still waiting on reports from:
- Annotator
- Gluten
- HoraeDB
- HugeGraph
- Liminal
- Pony Mail
- ResilientDB
- Teaclave
- XTable
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ot use
the name AgeDB and would stop using it in a week. They became a TLP in early
2022. From what I can see, the AgeDB website was created in mid 2023.
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Please note that Kie doesn't need to report.
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In SDAPs case:
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/sdap/
You might want to remove those old releases there, as they are automatically
archived here:
https://archive.apache.org/dist/incubator/sdap/
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Hi,
I’m not sure what you mean by registering a release. All ASF releases need to
go here:
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/
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> On 21 Mar 2024, at 10:29 am, Julian Hyde wrote:
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> Can someone remind me where I go (whimsy or reporter, I presume) to
&
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[1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/56n4rtxq1q7c0m3bxp1n7lcj551555nk
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> Thanks for pointing this out Justin. The description of the first
> mentioned vedio (a CoC Asia talk) [1] has been updated (thanks @Willem
> for the help), and PPMC is actively working on correcting the second
> one.
Those two links were only some of the instances I found. I su
have noticed this
language used in other places as well e.g. [1] Also stating an Apache project
is from a company e.g " from Ververica” [2] is not accurate, again the
community runs a project not a company. If possible the PPMC should look into
getting this corrected.
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Hi,
Thanks for checking that, and yes indeed it seems I looked at the wrong repro.
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> On 4 Mar 2024, at 6:09 pm, tison wrote:
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> Hi Justin,
>
> I checked the initial committers group and that is, according to [1][2]
>
> Initial Committers
>
are
they not included in the initial committer list?
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1. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/AmoroProposal
2. https://lists.apache.org/thread/7t2bm6x19zq2d79cn8jj2wqd3f2t3k00
HI,
As the discussion seems to have died down, I’ll put this up for a vote.
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the ASF's Slack instance, as it has a permanent history and is
managed by the ASF. Out of interest, who currently owns and manages this Slack
instance?
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+1 (binding) as well - all the best.
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> I would propose that as part of our official policy we recommend the
> podling's url as https://podling.apache.org and get rid of the .incubator. in
> the url.
>
> WDYT?
+1 from me.
Kind
with the important
dates, and who needs to report, the report_reminders.py script will send each
podling a reminder email.
There are some instructions here[1], but they could be improved.
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1. https://incubator.apache.org/guides/chair.html
> On 24 Feb 2024, at 1:44 pm, tison wrote:
>
ed
> - spot
> - toree
> - training
> - uniffle
> - wayang
>
>
> Reports as usual can be submitted here [1]
>
> Thanks,
> Justin
>
>
> 1. https://s.apache.org/incubator-report
> 1. https://cwiki.apache.org/co
-fused and lake-native architecture. You can find the proposal
here. [1]
We are looking forward to anyone's feedback or questions.
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[1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/AmoroProposal
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I’ll sort this out in the next 24 hours.
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, from what you have provided, has fixed a number of
issues pointed out to them. However, they don’t seem to understand that they
are responsible for managing their brand and protecting the ASF trademarks.
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full trademark policy covers a lot more than this, but that’s a good start.
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I’ll also note that this site (which I assume you have control of) also doesn’t
comply with our policy. [1]
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1. https://xuanwo.io/
Hi,
Several of those pages still do not comply with our trademark policy; the TM
symbol needs to be used, and a trademark attribution included.
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> In your source release anything in Category A is fair game. Things in
> Category B are not. Things in Category X never are.
While correct, that’s not the full story; you also can’t have anything as a
dependency whose license is a category X one.
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rd party
> licenses page: HPND [1][2] which, from what I can tell, is similar to the
> BSD-3 or MIT licenses, though I just wanted to double-check on that...
HPND looks fine to me, as it could be treated as a BSD-like or MIT-like
license, depending on what parts you
file[1] contains:
This product includes software developed at The Alibaba Group Holding Ltd
(https://www.alibaba.com/).
- no unexpected binary files.
- all files have ASF headers
- can compile from source
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1. https://github.com/flink-extended/flink-remote-shuffle/blob/main
Hi,
It’s best to wait for 72 hours before closing a vote.
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> On 31 Dec 2023, at 1:19 pm, Liuqing Yue wrote:
>
> Hi Incubator PMC,
>
> The vote to release Apache OpenDAL(incubating) 0.44.0-rc.1 has passed with
> 3 +1 binding and 1 +1 non-binding votes,
chanisms we can use if the name is
one of our trademarks. If a PMC found itself in this position, the owner wasn't
responsive, and the site’s content was in clear violation of our policy, it
would be best to involve trademarks to help and it’s a fairly straightforward
matter to request the site
Hi,
> As an analogy, think of answer.dev and answer.apache.org. You are in
> the thread of a similar situation[1].
This projct has just entered incubation and is not seeking to graduate. It will
need to hand over ownership of that domain name before it does.
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e PMC spend time to address it; or else
> the PMC fail to meet this guideline?
Yes, in most cases, the PMC should spend time addressing it. This is described
in full at [1], how the project wishes to implement this is up to them.
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1. https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/responsibility
HI,
I’d also suggest adding:
TB50 Any existing previous domain names are in control of the PMC.
TB60 Any existing trademarks have been or are in the process of being
transferred to the ASF.
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IMO, It would be best to delay the vote until after these issues have been
resolved.
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to review the
existing points that mention security.
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t; Xuanwo explained more technical details and community feedback in [1].
Other projects have different reasons for doing what they do; don’t confuse
that with permission to do what they do without a reason.
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. So I guess this is no longer a
> problem?
Thanks for looking into that; that looks to be a non-issue. Can anyone answer
my other questions?
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be OK if the page made it very clear that this was an ASF project and the users
were downloading “Apache Foo” and included appropriate trademark attribution.
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1. https://www.apache.org/foundati
Hi,
I’ll note these guidelines were discussed and voted on by the IPMC a while
back. Legal and trademarks also reviewed them and had input, and the work is
based on existing policy and years of discussion. They, however, have only had
minor updates since being formed.
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y have not been doing so.
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lease?
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3. https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#naming
4. https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#attributions
are generally
OK, so most versions of Java are OK.
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1. https://github.com/alldatacenter/alldata
2. /dev/checkout_pr.sh
rs, except this file might have an incorrect
header. [1]
- was unable to compile but probably my setup
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GPL files with classpath exceptions are not allowed [1]. Any files with that
license cannot be in an ASF distribution [2] in source or binary form. They
cannot be a non-optional dependency. [3]
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1. https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-x
2. https
Hi,
Looks like a good proposal. Only one thing stood out to me, while not
impossible, planning to graduate in a year might not be easily achievable.
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Another instance [1]
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Sorry, that should be "trademark attribution”, not “trademark attribute”.
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For instance, here [1], and also on the documentation, for example, [2], and
here [3] and here [4], and with some 3rd party sites [5][6] and [7] (search for
OpenDal)
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2. https://opendal.apache.org/docs/python/opendal.html
3. https://crates.io
that people run the latest non-released version;
please don't do this. [1]
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1. https://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#what
that people run the latest non-released version;
please don't do this. [1]
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HI,
The previous signing key also needs to be revoked as it has been shared.
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, but you do need to respect
3rd party trademarks.
My previous question regards whether the project has been given permission to
use the CeresDB trademark has still not been answered.
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> certainty, because Pekko renames all its references to Akka after
> entering the incubator.
Pekko was forced to rename due to a hostile license change and they didn't own
the name. The proposal stated that they would do this.
> So, Justin, your comment is not a reason also,
Hi,
The release artefacts include incubating in their names [1] as Incubator policy
requires [2].
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1. https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/answer/1.2.0-incubating-RC1/
2. https://incubator.apache.org/policy/incubation.html#releases
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> Using a new name to avoid any possible confusion or conflict is reasonable
> I think.
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ides need to be honored).
After reading the proposal, I’m not 100% sure the branding guidelines are
understood. “HoraeDB” is used, whereas “CeresDB” should be used in several
cases. It looks like the rename was only done a couple of weeks ago.
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h
associated with a project and
owned by a single corporate entity is a risk to the project. Why a company
would be unwilling to give up that brand or trademark just because it may be
convenient in the future is a concern.
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> On 28 Nov 2023, at 8:29 pm, tison wrote:
>
&g
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? Will control of these be
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I‘m curious about the name change and why the original name is being kept. How
you provide a bit more detail on this?
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The ring license seems to include BSD-style licenses with advertising clauses.
These are considered category X. [1]
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Hi,
> Thanks Justin. I'll look into those files again. With this RC, it includes
> a security hardening change. Akka issued a CVE for the issue but we don't
> think it really needs one. At the same time, I'd like to get out a change.
>
> Can we delay getting a fix for the possibl
st/bind/etc/db.127
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> Justin - if you are aware of more matches other than the bind.keys
> file, could you make us aware of them?
I think there are about 1/2 a dozen files in that directory from Bind9, but
nothing outside of that I’ve found. I’ve not done an extensive check, but at a
glance, the file
unsure if that license applies. Assuming it is OK to include them, something
should be mentioned LICENSE.
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> On 19 Nov 2023, at 12:56 am, PJ Fanning wrote:
>
> Hello Incubator Community,
>
> This is a call for a vote to release Apache Pekko(incubating)
>
s it under?
- What code is "Copyright Node.js contributors. All rights reserved.", and what
license is it under?
- What code is "Copyright (c) 2014 Blake Embrey (he...@blakeembrey.com)”, and
what license is it und
Hi,
+1 (binding) - carrying over my vote from the dev list.
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