17:02:28
Betreff: Re: GHC and the future of Freenode
On Tue Jun 15, 2021 at 3:18 PM CEST, Janek Stolarek wrote:
Apparently, Freenode deleted all registered users and channels several
hours ago.
I guess that should solve the problem of communities being split between
Freenode and Libera.
If I may a
On Tue Jun 15, 2021 at 3:18 PM CEST, Janek Stolarek wrote:
> Apparently, Freenode deleted all registered users and channels several
> hours ago.
I guess that should solve the problem of communities being split between
Freenode and Libera.
If I may add towards using IRC, even though it may seem
Apparently, Freenode deleted all registered users and channels several hours
ago:
https://old.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/o0263h/all_freenode_channels_and_users_gone/
A more detailed explanation/speculation on what's goin on:
https://www.devever.net/~hl/freenode_suicide
Janek
And this is a good example of how both using libera.chat and having an
official matrix bridge with a nice name can help more people use IRC too!
On 6/6/21 2:10 PM, Brandon Allbery wrote:
Pasting directly into the channel is generally a no-no on IRC. Things
like Matrix or IRCCloud convert to
Viktor,
Sorry you had a bad experience. Perhaps it will help to know that these
bans are automatically done by bots to prevent the channel from being
flooded by nefarious users. That you were caught by it was just a
false positive because you triggered the flooding detection. It doesn't
mean
Pasting directly into the channel is generally a no-no on IRC. Things like
Matrix or IRCCloud convert to pastebins automatically.
On Sun, Jun 6, 2021 at 2:07 PM Viktor Dukhovni
wrote:
> On 19 May 2021, at 11:48 am, Carter Schonwald
> wrote:
>
> > I personally vote for irc. Perhaps via Libera.
On 19 May 2021, at 11:48 am, Carter Schonwald
wrote:
> I personally vote for irc. Perhaps via Libera.
Perhaps I'm too much of an IRC noob, but I still found it it rather
surprising to be banned from libera.chat (my IP is blacklisted) for
pasting a 25-line build script for building GHC via
The libera.chat IRC bridge is up, so one can go to #ghc:libera.chat to
give the bridging a spin.
To make my recommendation from before more concrete, we would *not* use
that "portal room" (one spawned on demand by the bridge), but instead
make a #ghc:haskell.org. One should be able to then
I have been trying out Matrix a bit recently. It seems the best of the
options in my opinion and has the advantage of being able to bridge to
IRC (and other platforms).
The NixOS community rapidly moved over without any ill effects after
the demise of freenode.
As with all these things, who
As Ben and others say, Matrix provides many modern features new users
will expect, while preserving the spirit of IRC. Without wading into the
details, the design of Matrix I find impressive and to my liking, and it
has seemed to get steadily better over time for quite a while now.
Re Zulip,
LLVM uses discord and it works fine.
On Sat, May 22, 2021 at 7:12 PM Chris Smith wrote:
> No, unfortunately, this is not resolved. The link here is a fictitious
> whitewash of events posted by the person who conducted the hostile takeover
> of Freenode. At the moment, the state of Freenode is
No, unfortunately, this is not resolved. The link here is a fictitious
whitewash of events posted by the person who conducted the hostile takeover
of Freenode. At the moment, the state of Freenode is that it's still
operating as an IRC network, but the volunteer staff who have operated the
Was this a temporary issue with Freenode IRC, resolved by now?
https://freenode.net/news/freenode-is-foss
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As I said, I am not a heavy IRC user, for my online chatting needs I mostly
use Mattermost, Discord, and Slack.So I don't have an informed opinion
on the technical merits of the various platforms---mostly I've heard that
the Matrix clients and servers are quite a bit less robust than IRC ones
Iavor Diatchki writes:
> Hello,
>
> I am not a heavy IRC user, but I'd say it makes most sense to just use
> Libera. It is essentially the same people that were running free-node
> running pretty much the exact same service, and I believe they are trying
> to make it extra easy to just switch,
Hello,
I am not a heavy IRC user, but I'd say it makes most sense to just use
Libera. It is essentially the same people that were running free-node
running pretty much the exact same service, and I believe they are trying
to make it extra easy to just switch, so this should be the least effort
Fair point. From a view over the last few days, I’d say it’s closer to 100%
on libera. Lots of people just switched. Quite surprising.
On Fri, 21 May 2021 at 7:14 PM, Jens Petersen wrote:
> My vote goes for Matrix.
>
> I am not a heavy user yet, but I hope this episode helps to drive more
>
My vote goes for Matrix.
I am not a heavy user yet, but I hope this episode helps to drive more
people to it away from irc.
Having half the people on Freenode and the other half on Libera seems the
worst possible outcome in the short- to mid-term.
The Fedora project also has plans to move to
I’ll try again.
On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 10:26 PM Mario Carneiro
wrote:
> Speaking as a *heavy* user of the Rust and Lean zulip instances, I find it
> a huge improvement over the alternatives of Gitter and Discord, and I think
> IRC although I have not used IRC much. It takes some getting used
I've been using the recently created Types Zulip (for academic PL) -- my
first experience with this platform -- and also found it unusual at first
but then quite liked the dynamic topics thing (exactly for reasons Mario
describes).
Zulip or anything from 21st century would be a huge improvement
Thanks for the perspective! I was not thinking of Gitter or Discord as
being in the running for various reasons.
On Wed, May 19, 2021, 22:27 Mario Carneiro wrote:
> Speaking as a *heavy* user of the Rust and Lean zulip instances, I find it
> a huge improvement over the alternatives of Gitter
Speaking as a *heavy* user of the Rust and Lean zulip instances, I find it
a huge improvement over the alternatives of Gitter and Discord, and I think
IRC although I have not used IRC much. It takes some getting used to, but
the topic threading is absolutely essential once you reach a certain
I definitely find Zulip confusing and have failed to use it every time I’ve
tried
If normal threading is lasagna layers, Zulip threading is like trying to
hold cooked spaghetti in your ha d.
On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 2:40 PM Alex Rozenshteyn
wrote:
> (I'm a little ashamed that I lurk on this
(I'm a little ashamed that I lurk on this list but the thing that brings me
out of lurking is a post on communication technologies)
Not Zulip.
Please not Zulip.
I've used Zulip once many years ago, and once this year. Both times, its
interface felt clunky, and it felt like it was trying to get
Carter Schonwald writes:
> I personally vote for irc. Perhaps via Libera.
>
> What are some example vibrant technical communities on matrix? I’ve
> experienced such on irc but less so via more recent / newer platforms
>
I know that many subcommunities within the Rust community use Matrix. I
I personally vote for irc. Perhaps via Libera.
What are some example vibrant technical communities on matrix? I’ve
experienced such on irc but less so via more recent / newer platforms
On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 8:57 AM Ben Gamari wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> As you may have heard the Freenode IRC
On Wed, 19 May 2021, Ben Gamari wrote:
Hi all,
As you may have heard the Freenode IRC network, long the home of #ghc
and several other prominent Haskell channels, appears to be in the
middle of a rather nasty hostile takeover [1,2,3,4]. As a consequence,
it seems it will be necessary to
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Betreff: GHC and the future of Freenode
Hi all,
As you may have heard the Freenode IRC network, long the home of #ghc
and several other prominent Haskell channels, appears
Hi all,
As you may have heard the Freenode IRC network, long the home of #ghc
and several other prominent Haskell channels, appears to be in the
middle of a rather nasty hostile takeover [1,2,3,4]. As a consequence,
it seems it will be necessary to migrate the #ghc community elsewhere.
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