Re: [Gimp-developer] screenshot with mousepointer

2007-10-26 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Thu, 2007-10-25 at 18:56 +0200, GSR - FR wrote: Looked at XFixes X11 extension? I think all the apps that show the correct pointer shape use that extension to copy the pixmaps and then stamp them in the final image/video. Good point. The XFixes extension seems to have code to do this.

Re: [Gimp-developer] discussing the roadmap for 2.6

2007-10-26 Thread Alexander Rabtchevich
The things can be visually organized like the Inkscape does: http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Roadmap . As I think, the roadmap at their site is much late to the current features implemented, but the whole framework represents the picture. Although there can be something like

[Gimp-developer] 2.6 roadmap

2007-10-26 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, so it looks like we should toss some ideas around here on the mailing-list to get an idea what could be our goals for 2.6. Let me just propose a few things for discussion: - Port internals to GEGL We are pretty sure that we want to do this but we need a more thorough proposal of what

[Gimp-developer] Gimp 4.0 in fullscreen mode

2007-10-26 Thread Damien
Gimp 4.0 seems to bug in fullscreen mode with fluxbox. When I zoom an image, the background window follows the image dimensions instead of freeze. I can't test the bug with another WM. I love gimp 4.0 and the new gimp website ! :-) Regards. -- Damien

Re: [Gimp-developer] discussing the roadmap for 2.6

2007-10-26 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 10/26/07, saulgoode wrote: Finally, there should be an effort to maintain integrity of the XCF file format by converting between the core implementation of layer groups and parasites attached to drawables during saves and loads of XCF files (older GIMP versions would read the files but

Re: [Gimp-developer] discussing the roadmap for 2.6

2007-10-26 Thread saulgoode
Regarding the process of developing a roadmap, I think this mailing list should be where proposals are made and commented upon (there has already been some nice commentary in this thread). The main GIMP developers should fairly rapidly be able to come to a decision about the roadmap

Re: [Gimp-developer] discussing the roadmap for 2.6

2007-10-26 Thread saulgoode
A change in file formats should be postponed until a bump in the major version number takes place (per GNU coding standards?). But my proposal of adding parasites containing layer group meta-data to files saved in the current XCF standard is indeed merely an interim solution, permitting

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.6 roadmap

2007-10-26 Thread Micahel Grosberg
Hi, I'ts been a while since I've last written here. First of all congrats for getting 2.4 out the door. I'm not a developer, just a humble graphic artist semi-professional UI designer. I think making a roadmap is a very important step in the development of Gimp. But I suggest before that, Gimp

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.6 roadmap

2007-10-26 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 10/26/07, Micahel Grosberg wrote: I think making a roadmap is a very important step in the development of Gimp. But I suggest before that, Gimp needs a mission statement. It already has one http://gui.gimp.org/index.php/GIMP_UI_Redesign#product_vision Alexandre

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.6 roadmap

2007-10-26 Thread Alexander Rabtchevich
Micahel Grosberg wrote: I believe Gimp's target audience should be the home user and amateur photographer, and future development in this direction should take precedence over features for the professional artist. Could I object? Currently GIMP is one and the only potential free OS tool

[Gimp-developer] 2.6 roadmapping, the UI part of it...

2007-10-26 Thread peter sikking
GIMPsters, 2.4 is out and I want to thank Sven, Martin and Mitch for working with me on realising a substantial part of the select/crop tools specification. For me the transition into the 2.6 development cycle also marks the start of where working on the UI revamp of GIMP will be more strategic,

[Gimp-developer] strange window behaviors

2007-10-26 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Fri, 2007-10-26 at 05:37 -0700, Micahel Grosberg wrote: As for user-visible changes in version 2.6, I think an important goal should be to get Gimp to work well with the desktop environment. I'm talking about the multiple taskbar buttons and related subjects. I'm writing this on

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.6 roadmap

2007-10-26 Thread Daniel Pinheiro Lima
Micahel Grosberg wrote: I believe Gimp's target audience should be the home user and amateur photographer, and future development in this direction should take precedence over features for the professional artist. First of all, sorry by the caveman's english. I'm a professional artist and I

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.6 roadmapping, the UI part of it...

2007-10-26 Thread William Skaggs
My congratulations as well, great to see the release out! From: peter sikking [EMAIL PROTECTED] From my UI-redesign point of view, we need to get GEGL and Cairo in GIMP, else there is little chance of innovation in the UI. Also what the GIMP project needs right now is a short ( 6 months)

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.6 roadmapping, the UI part of it...

2007-10-26 Thread Martin Nordholts
peter sikking wrote: GIMPsters, Half of the select/crop tools is still to-be-implemented, part of it (narrow situation) needs further specification and hmmm, Cairo is introduced. I say lets finish the select/crop tools making full use cairo, like transparency. Hello I have already started

Re: [Gimp-developer] Can I translate new featues of gimp 2.4.0?

2007-10-26 Thread Martin Nordholts
Choi, Ji-Hui wrote: Hi, list At first, I have to apologize you all I don't know whom I should ask about this. if I'm wrong, please tell me the correct mailing address. I want to translate the introduce page of gimp 2.4.0 in gimp.org this page, http://gimp.org/release-notes/gimp-2.4.html

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp 4.0 in fullscreen mode

2007-10-26 Thread Martin Nordholts
Damien wrote: Gimp 4.0 seems to bug in fullscreen mode with fluxbox. When I zoom an image, the background window follows the image dimensions instead of freeze. I can't test the bug with another WM. I love gimp 4.0 and the new gimp website ! :-) Regards. -- Damien Hello It's GIMP

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.6 roadmapping, the UI part of it...

2007-10-26 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Fri, 2007-10-26 at 11:02 -0700, William Skaggs wrote: (I also think that the first GEGL-based release should be called 3.0.) There will most likely be zero user-visible changes or new features due to the port of the core to GEGL. It would be very stupid to make that a major release. We

Re: [Gimp-developer] discussing the roadmap for 2.6

2007-10-26 Thread Brendan
Go for the low-hanging fruit. Do whatever work is easiest that can roll into new releases. If GEGL is toughest, leave that until 2nd, and do the GDK stuff first. Do whatever you have the strongest team for. ___ Gimp-developer mailing list

Re: [Gimp-developer] Can I translate new featues of gimp 2.4.0?

2007-10-26 Thread Choi, Ji-Hui
On 10/27/07, Martin Nordholts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That page is maintained by the GIMP developers and I see no problem with you translating and hosting a version of that page by yourself. Thank you for your kindly reply, Martin. :-) -- 〓〓 Choi, Ji-Hui

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.6 roadmap

2007-10-26 Thread Valerie VK
So... Gimp currently has 4 major goals? - Cairo - GEGL - Add named parameters and default values to the PDB - 6 months development cycle. Wouldn't it be easier to treat them as Separate goals for separate releases? Once Cairo and GEGL (I have no idea for the Parameters feature, so apologies for

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.6 roadmap

2007-10-26 Thread David Gowers
On 10/27/07, Valerie VK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So... Gimp currently has 4 major goals? - Cairo - GEGL - Add named parameters and default values to the PDB - 6 months development cycle. Wouldn't it be easier to treat them as Separate goals for separate releases? Once Cairo and GEGL (I