Re: emailselfdefense.fsf.org indirectly recommends a proprietary service through the new Enigmail defaults

2019-10-29 Thread Jean Louis
* Dmitry Alexandrov <321...@gmail.com> [2019-10-29 14:26]: > Jean Louis wrote: > > * Dmitry Alexandrov <321...@gmail.com> [2019-10-28 17:53]: > >> the SKS keyserver network — the de-facto standard for years — is not > >> [proprietary], it is a decentralized replicated network — like Usenet; >

Re: emailselfdefense.fsf.org indirectly recommends a proprietary service through the new Enigmail defaults

2019-10-29 Thread Dmitry Alexandrov
Jean Louis wrote: > * Dmitry Alexandrov <321...@gmail.com> [2019-10-28 17:53]: >> the SKS keyserver network — the de-facto standard for years — is not >> [proprietary], it is a decentralized replicated network — like Usenet; while >> keys.openpgp.org, to carry on the analogy, is like Facebook.

Re: emailselfdefense.fsf.org indirectly recommends a proprietary service through the new Enigmail defaults

2019-10-28 Thread Jean Louis
* Dmitry Alexandrov <321...@gmail.com> [2019-10-28 17:53]: > In particular, the SKS keyserver network — the de-facto standard for > years — is not, it is a decentralized replicated network — like > Usenet; while keys.openpgp.org, to carry on the analogy, is like > Facebook. Yes, I would say it

Re: emailselfdefense.fsf.org indirectly recommends a proprietary service through the new Enigmail defaults

2019-10-28 Thread Dmitry Alexandrov
Jean Louis wrote: > * Dmitry Alexandrov <321...@gmail.com> [2019-10-28 15:21]: >> Even if FSF, like Werner Koch , believes that there is >> nothing wrong ethically with steering users to an isolated proprietary >> service, the guide is simply incorrect factually. > > Do you refer to online

Re: emailselfdefense.fsf.org indirectly recommends a proprietary service through the new Enigmail defaults

2019-10-28 Thread Jean Louis
* Dmitry Alexandrov <321...@gmail.com> [2019-10-28 15:21]: > Even if FSF, like Werner Koch , believes that there is > nothing wrong ethically with steering users to an isolated > proprietary service, the guide is simply incorrect factually. Do you refer to online service? Are not all websites

Re: emailselfdefense.fsf.org indirectly recommends a proprietary service through a new Enigmail defaults

2019-07-21 Thread Dmitry Alexandrov
Werner Koch wrote: > On Wed, 17 Jul 2019 14:37, 321...@gmail.com said: >>> A problem is the single-point-of-validation (done via mail confirmation) >>> which puts [keys.openpgp.org] in a position like X.509 CAs. >> >> That is, mister Brunschwig is willing to add other keyservers on a par with

Re: emailselfdefense.fsf.org indirectly recommends a proprietary service through a new Enigmail defaults

2019-07-18 Thread Werner Koch
On Wed, 17 Jul 2019 14:37, 321...@gmail.com said: > And I did not. ;-) I called keys.openpgp.org a proprietary *service*, > not a proprietary server [software]. I. e. a service, that has an > owner = proprietor, who solely controls it. Agreed. >> This keyserver is not more proprietary than any

Re: emailselfdefense.fsf.org indirectly recommends a proprietary service through a new Enigmail defaults

2019-07-17 Thread Dmitry Alexandrov
Werner Koch wrote: > On Tue, 16 Jul 2019 07:43, 321...@gmail.com said: > >> describes, changed the default keyserver from the SKS round-robin pool, to a >> *proprietary centralized service* [2], “one of whose > > Although I have some concerns with those validating keyservers, like >

Re: emailselfdefense.fsf.org indirectly recommends a proprietary service through a new Enigmail defaults

2019-07-16 Thread Werner Koch
Hi! On Tue, 16 Jul 2019 07:43, 321...@gmail.com said: > describes, changed the default keyserver from the SKS round-robin > pool, to a *proprietary centralized service* [2], “one of whose Although I have some concerns with those validating keyservers, like keys.openpgp.org, it is wrong and

emailselfdefense.fsf.org indirectly recommends a proprietary service through a new Enigmail defaults

2019-07-15 Thread Dmitry Alexandrov
Hello. FSF’s ‘Email Self-Defence Guide’ [1] teaches those who are not yet familiar with OpenPGP to use Thunderbird + Enigmail and features the following text: | In your email program's menu, select Enigmail → Key Management. | | Right click on your key and select Upload Public Keys to