Re: gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org is premoderated

2019-10-29 Thread Dora Scilipoti
Hello, almost five days after submitting my request for subscription, it was finally approved. And a few hours before the approval happened, the moderation rules were updated with yet more restrictions, and this particular point: Tue, 29 Oct 2019 10:31:37 +0100, Mark Wielaard wrote: > And for

Re: GNU project _does_ discriminate contributors by classes (was: A GNU “social contract”?)

2019-10-29 Thread Jason Self
On Tue, 2019-10-29 at 17:43 +0300, Dmitry Alexandrov wrote: > if a contributor-to-be happens to be an employee I believe this to be a mischaracterization of the situation. This is related to the copyright assignment mentioned earlier. As an example, some have employment contracts with wording to

Re: GNU project _does_ discriminate contributors by classes (was: A GNU “social contract”?)

2019-10-29 Thread DJ Delorie
> if a contributor-to-be happens to be an employee, FSF does not trust > his words about origin of his contribution, This seems reasonable to me in the USA. Many companies have a clause in their contracts that say that the company owns anything the employee creates during their tenure, *even

GNU project _does_ discriminate contributors by classes (was: A GNU “social contract”?)

2019-10-29 Thread Dmitry Alexandrov
Jean Louis wrote: > GNU project does not discriminate by gender, or other classes, neither > verifies genders of contributors, or their classes, as everybody is welcome > to contribute To the best of my knowledge, thatʼs completely untrue: major GNU subprojects do discriminate contributors by

Re: gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org is premoderated

2019-10-29 Thread Dmitry Alexandrov
"Carlos O'Donell" wrote: > On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 10:21 AM Dmitry Alexandrov <321...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Mark Wielaard wrote: >> > On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 05:22:48AM +0300, Dmitry Alexandrov wrote: >> >> Iʼd like to report that my message number d0eidcqu.321...@gmail.com >> >> (below), sent a

Re: Turning GNU into a bottom-up organization

2019-10-29 Thread Dmitry Alexandrov
Jean Louis wrote: > * Florian Weimer [2019-10-24 16:32]: >> * Alfred M. Szmidt: >> >> > Debian renegaded on their goal of being a 100% free software system, they >> > now include non-free software. That is the danger, and it is very much >> > real. >> >> And GNU comes with non-free

Re: Turning GNU into a bottom-up organization

2019-10-29 Thread Dmitry Alexandrov
Florian Weimer wrote: > * Alfred M. Szmidt: >> Debian renegaded on their goal of being a 100% free software system, they >> now include non-free software. > > And GNU comes with non-free documentation. He-he. Could you please remind us, under what terms Debian Wiki is distributed?

Re: emailselfdefense.fsf.org indirectly recommends a proprietary service through the new Enigmail defaults

2019-10-29 Thread Jean Louis
* Dmitry Alexandrov <321...@gmail.com> [2019-10-29 14:26]: > Jean Louis wrote: > > * Dmitry Alexandrov <321...@gmail.com> [2019-10-28 17:53]: > >> the SKS keyserver network — the de-facto standard for years — is not > >> [proprietary], it is a decentralized replicated network — like Usenet; >

Re: emailselfdefense.fsf.org indirectly recommends a proprietary service through the new Enigmail defaults

2019-10-29 Thread Dmitry Alexandrov
Jean Louis wrote: > * Dmitry Alexandrov <321...@gmail.com> [2019-10-28 17:53]: >> the SKS keyserver network — the de-facto standard for years — is not >> [proprietary], it is a decentralized replicated network — like Usenet; while >> keys.openpgp.org, to carry on the analogy, is like Facebook.