On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 07:14:44PM +0100, Alexandre Fran?ois Garreau wrote:
> Le samedi 22 f??vrier 2020, 18:41:48 CET Ludovic Court??s a ??crit :
>
> > PS: It???s telling that yet another insulting message passed moderation!
>
> Wait it was criticizing but where were the insults?
>
Now we see
rms cannot be simply reinstated into FSF because he left himself
willingly. For him to go back inside FSF would require initiative from
him, added to efforts of both parts.
Le mercredi 19 février 2020, 21:53:45 CET orbulon--- via General GNU
project and free software discussions a écrit :
> What do you guys think about all this? What else could be done to
> promote free software in gaming?
Money (if only FSF’s money could be used for such things)
Careful study of
Le jeudi 20 février 2020, 22:55:37 CET Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss) a
écrit :
> On 2020-02-20 11:42, Andreas R. wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 02:45:02PM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> >> > On the flip side, an argument is made that your initiative might
> >> > make GNU more exclusionary
Le jeudi 20 février 2020, 18:39:52 CET Samuel Thibault a écrit :
> Alfred M. Szmidt, le jeu. 20 févr. 2020 12:32:16 -0500, a ecrit:
> >> > Our concern is that at some point GNU may be just completely
> >> > unknown
> >> > to free software enthousiasts. As in, when you'd ask people
> >
Le jeudi 20 février 2020, 05:08:13 CET DJ Delorie a écrit :
> Jean Louis writes:
> > * DJ Delorie [2020-02-19 21:01]:
> >> "Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss)" <936-846-2...@kylheku.com> writes:
> >> > On 2020-02-17 12:37, Andy Wingo wrote:
> >> >> Thought experiment: what would GNU be if all of its
Le vendredi 21 février 2020, 22:57:55 CET Samuel Thibault a écrit :
> Alexandre François Garreau, le ven. 21 févr. 2020 11:59:42 +0100, a
ecrit:
> > Le jeudi 20 février 2020, 18:39:52 CET Samuel Thibault a écrit :
> > > I'm not saying that GNU will necessarily stop growing and decline.
> > > What
I’ve another idea of measurement:
What software is for?
Is software first of all for developers, or users?
For people who write it, or people who run it?
I mean, software is made to be used right? not only read (and actually,
continuously changing software also is an issue for those who read,
Le jeudi 20 février 2020, 14:45:02 CET Samuel Thibault a écrit :
> Dmitry Gutov, le jeu. 20 févr. 2020 15:31:17 +0200, a ecrit:
> > On the flip side, an argument is made that your initiative might make
> > GNU more exclusionary because of the extra conditions on what it
> > takes to be a part of
在 2020年02月23日 08:08, Ruben Safir 写道:
On 2/22/20 7:51 AM, Alexandre François Garreau wrote:
rms cannot be simply reinstated into FSF because he left himself
willingly. For him to go back inside FSF would require initiative from
him, added to efforts of both parts.
在 2020年02月22日 23:55, Alexandre François Garreau 写道:
Le samedi 22 février 2020, 16:54:05 CET 徐继哲 - Xu Jizhe a écrit :
在 2020年02月22日 20:51, Alexandre François Garreau 写道:
rms cannot be simply reinstated into FSF because he left himself
willingly.
I don't think so.
Officially, it was so. He
在 2020年02月22日 20:51, Alexandre François Garreau 写道:
rms cannot be simply reinstated into FSF because he left himself
willingly.
I don't think so.
For him to go back inside FSF would require initiative from
him, added to efforts of both parts.
RMS is the best people to lead the free software
"Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss)" <936-846-2...@kylheku.com> writes:
[...]
>
> You are sick.
I urge you to consider the GNU Kind Communications Guidelines [0] when
posting to GNU lists, as well as keeping this list's guidelines [1] in
mind when posting here. Further, I ask that you seriously
Andreas Enge, 22/02/20 21:48:
If anything, this message shows how much a code of conduct is needed.
Or maybe it shows there's a language barrier. Let's not rush to judge
non-native English speakers, especially after having admitted that the
meaning of their message is unclear.
I think
Eli Zaretskii writes:
> No one, not even the above quote, said they have "no impact" in
> general.
I didn't say that. I said you could argue that. It's a point to
consider and discuss, that's all. Sometimes an extreme viewpoint makes
discussion clearer, and the results can be applied to the
Alex,
Alex Taylor 写道：
The Guile and Guix projects have both excluded and/or vilified
people
who disagree with the people in power
This would trouble me deeply. To whom did this happen, and why?
Kind regards,
T G-R
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On 2020-02-21 13:40, Mark Wielaard wrote:
These are good questions and my apologies we didn't make this more
clear. The GNU Social Contract is important because it defines what the
GNU project stands for.
How can you say that, when the GNU project has issued official
statements disavowing it?
On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 20:48:43 +0100, Andreas Enge wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 10:26:22AM -0800, Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss)
> wrote:
>> On 2020-02-22 01:22, Andreas Enge wrote:
>> > And another ad-hominem attack. Can you substantiate the claim of us
>> > being
>> > powermongers?
>>
>>
On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 07:29:45 +, Alex Taylor wrote:
> Finally "endorsing" the text would give the rebel group a legitimacy which
> they neither have, nor deserve. It's instructive to look at the track
> record of these renegades. The Guile and Guix projects have both excluded
> and/or
On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 18:41:48 +0100, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
> PS: It’s telling that yet another insulting message passed moderation!
Insults deserve condemnation, not censorship.
"Insulting" is highly subjective, and a slippery slope for blocking
messages.
I've personally prevented many
Samuel Thibault, le dim. 23 févr. 2020 02:47:02 +0100, a ecrit:
> failed
> > utf8 "\xF3" does not map to Unicode at
> > /usr/share/texinfo/Texinfo/ParserNonXS.pm line 1796, line 19280.
D'oh...
Sorry, I had tried to make my MUA reply only to the list (as requested
my moderators), and that
failed
> utf8 "\xF3" does not map to Unicode at
> /usr/share/texinfo/Texinfo/ParserNonXS.pm line 1796, line 19280.
Alexandre François Garreau, le dim. 23 févr. 2020 01:08:25 +0100, a ecrit:
> Le dimanche 23 février 2020, 00:02:27 CET Samuel Thibault a écrit :
> > I see my students not think that much when they put software on github,
> > if I don't discuss with them. When you create a repository on github,
> >
Le samedi 22 février 2020, 23:01:54 CET Andreas R. a écrit :
> On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 10:04:36PM +0100, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
> >> We have never pressed contributors to endorse the GNU Project
> >> philosophy [..] people are welcome to contribute to GNU regardless
> >> of their views.>
> > The
Le mercredi 12 février 2020, 06:54:10 CET Mike Gerwitz a écrit :
> On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 16:32:53 -0500, nylxs wrote:
> > On 2/6/20 5:36 AM, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
> >> The goal is to acknowledge that GNU is not the only free software
> >> provider, and that the GNU Project (socially) and the
Le dimanche 23 février 2020, 00:02:27 CET Samuel Thibault a écrit :
> Alexandre François Garreau, le sam. 22 févr. 2020 23:32:13 +0100, a
ecrit:
> > giving a link to GNU coding standards (actually even packaged into
> > debian), for instance, would be pretty reasonable mentoring.
>
> Sure (but
On 23.02.2020 0:49, Alexandre François Garreau wrote:
But what will rather happen is that the new generation will just rewrite
another program, possibly without caring about making it free software.
So what? it still can be run. If people value freedom, they should prefer
the free one, to
Le samedi 22 février 2020, 22:52:11 CET Jean Louis a écrit :
> * Alex Taylor [2020-02-22 10:31]:
> > Recently we have been "invited" to approve a thing which is being
> > called the "social contract". If the text is read, it will be seen
> > that it has three parts.
> >
> > The first part is
Le samedi 22 février 2020, 22:50:03 CET Samuel Thibault a écrit :
> Alexandre François Garreau, le sam. 22 févr. 2020 22:43:36 +0100, a
ecrit:
> > Le samedi 22 février 2020, 21:10:33 CET Samuel Thibault a écrit :
> > > Alexandre François Garreau, le sam. 22 févr. 2020 19:21:18 +0100, a
ecrit:
>
Alexandre François Garreau, le dim. 23 févr. 2020 00:00:11 +0100, a ecrit:
> Le samedi 22 février 2020, 22:32:24 CET Samuel Thibault a écrit :
> > Jean Louis, le dim. 23 févr. 2020 00:04:46 +0300, a ecrit:
> > > GNU project is about making free operating system, thus it is there,
> > > as long as
Alexandre François Garreau, le sam. 22 févr. 2020 23:49:30 +0100, a ecrit:
> Le samedi 22 février 2020, 21:49:13 CET Samuel Thibault a écrit :
> > Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss), le sam. 22 févr. 2020 12:22:55 -0800, a
> ecrit:
> > > On 2020-02-22 01:50, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > > > Really, not
Alexandre François Garreau, le sam. 22 févr. 2020 23:32:13 +0100, a ecrit:
> giving a link to GNU coding standards (actually even packaged into
> debian), for instance, would be pretty reasonable mentoring.
Sure (but also telling which piece is questioned in the contribution,
e.g. "there are
Le samedi 22 février 2020, 22:32:24 CET Samuel Thibault a écrit :
> Jean Louis, le dim. 23 févr. 2020 00:04:46 +0300, a ecrit:
> > GNU project is about making free operating system, thus it is there,
> > as long as it is compatible with computers, you may carry it on in the
> > future life.
>
>
Le samedi 22 février 2020, 21:49:13 CET Samuel Thibault a écrit :
> Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss), le sam. 22 févr. 2020 12:22:55 -0800, a
ecrit:
> > On 2020-02-22 01:50, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > > Really, not including the next generations in a project is running
> > > the
> > > risk of the
Le samedi 22 février 2020, 21:43:00 CET Samuel Thibault a écrit :
> Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss), le sam. 22 févr. 2020 10:22:55 -0800, a
ecrit:
> > On 2020-02-22 01:50, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > > Yes. Which doesn't mean they should immediately be given commit
> > > power
> > > etc. But at
On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 10:04:36PM +0100, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
>> We have never pressed contributors to endorse the GNU Project philosophy [..]
>> people are welcome to contribute to GNU regardless of their views.
>
> The GNU Social Contract is about changing that.
So who is going to
Alexandre François Garreau, le sam. 22 févr. 2020 22:46:11 +0100, a ecrit:
> Le samedi 22 février 2020, 21:15:19 CET Samuel Thibault a écrit :
> > Alexandre François Garreau, le sam. 22 févr. 2020 13:50:49 +0100, a
> ecrit:
> > > Le vendredi 21 février 2020, 22:57:55 CET Samuel Thibault a écrit :
* Alex Taylor [2020-02-22 10:31]:
> Recently we have been "invited" to approve a thing which is being called
> the "social contract". If the text is read, it will be seen that it has
> three parts.
>
> The first part is the four freedoms established by Stallman many years
> ago. No problem
Alexandre François Garreau, le sam. 22 févr. 2020 22:43:36 +0100, a ecrit:
> Le samedi 22 février 2020, 21:10:33 CET Samuel Thibault a écrit :
> > Alexandre François Garreau, le sam. 22 févr. 2020 19:21:18 +0100, a
> ecrit:
> > > I recall some of them (likely one of those you’re thinking about is
Le samedi 22 février 2020, 21:15:19 CET Samuel Thibault a écrit :
> Alexandre François Garreau, le sam. 22 févr. 2020 13:50:49 +0100, a
ecrit:
> > Le vendredi 21 février 2020, 22:57:55 CET Samuel Thibault a écrit :
> > > Alexandre François Garreau, le ven. 21 févr. 2020 11:59:42 +0100, a
> >
> >
* Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss) <936-846-2...@kylheku.com> [2020-02-23 00:30]:
> On 2020-02-22 12:50, Jean Louis wrote:
> > * Samuel Thibault [2020-02-22 23:45]:
> > > Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss), le sam. 22 févr. 2020 10:22:55
> > > -0800, a ecrit:
> > > If nobody is there to hold their
Le samedi 22 février 2020, 21:10:33 CET Samuel Thibault a écrit :
> Alexandre François Garreau, le sam. 22 févr. 2020 19:21:18 +0100, a
ecrit:
> > I recall some of them (likely one of those you’re thinking about is
> > the
> > same as I),
>
> Possibly.
FDN right?
> > > > you prefer to
* Samuel Thibault [2020-02-23 00:35]:
> > GNU project is about making free operating system, thus it is there,
> > as long as it is compatible with computers, you may carry it on in the
> > future life.
>
> Sure. But how to make sure it will outlive me?
>
> Samuel
Maybe you just think of GNU
Jean Louis, le dim. 23 févr. 2020 00:04:46 +0300, a ecrit:
> Give me a break.
I explained what I meant to mean. I don't see what else you would want.
> > > > I'm here speaking as an oldie, actually. An oldie who had to ask himself
> > > > that very question for some projects already. I have
Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss), le sam. 22 févr. 2020 13:17:06 -0800, a ecrit:
> On 2020-02-22 12:43, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss), le sam. 22 févr. 2020 10:22:55 -0800, a
> > ecrit:
> > > But does it? If inexperienced people are a protected class, then it
> > >
* Ludovic Courtès [2020-02-23 00:05]:
> Hello Eli,
>
> Eli Zaretskii skribis:
>
> > I always thought that maintaining a GNU project according to the
> > guidelines I was communicated when I was appointed _is_ upholding GNU
> > values, that it's all there is in upholding them, as applied to my
On 2020-02-22 12:43, Samuel Thibault wrote:
Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss), le sam. 22 févr. 2020 10:22:55 -0800, a
ecrit:
But does it? If inexperienced people are a protected class, then it
doesn't matter how the blocking is done. The blocking violates the
social
contract and that's that.
Hello,
may I also kindly ask for Jean Louis to be put on moderation?
Actually, maybe Kaz Kylheku is right: I am sick... Sick of being gratuitously
insulted on this mailing list by people who happen to not share my opinion,
and sick of having to read follow-ups that basically imply that I deserve
* Samuel Thibault [2020-02-22 23:58]:
> Jean Louis, le sam. 22 févr. 2020 23:43:55 +0300, a ecrit:
> > * Samuel Thibault [2020-02-22 23:22]:
> > > Jean Louis, le sam. 22 févr. 2020 18:02:42 +0300, a ecrit:
> > > > * Samuel Thibault [2020-02-22 12:51]:
> > > > > Really, not including the next
Hello Eli,
Eli Zaretskii skribis:
> I always thought that maintaining a GNU project according to the
> guidelines I was communicated when I was appointed _is_ upholding GNU
> values, that it's all there is in upholding them, as applied to my job
> as the maintainer. But you seem to be saying
* Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss) <936-846-2...@kylheku.com> [2020-02-22 23:46]:
> On 2020-02-22 12:31, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote:
> > Andreas Enge, 22/02/20 21:48:
> > > If anything, this message shows how much a code of conduct is needed.
> >
> > Or maybe it shows there's a language barrier.
Jean Louis, le sam. 22 févr. 2020 23:43:55 +0300, a ecrit:
> * Samuel Thibault [2020-02-22 23:22]:
> > Jean Louis, le sam. 22 févr. 2020 18:02:42 +0300, a ecrit:
> > > * Samuel Thibault [2020-02-22 12:51]:
> > > > Really, not including the next generations in a project is running the
> > > >
FSF seems defunct. When was the last time we had a glorious Peoples
Action, such as the Cisco lawsuit? Forever ago. It's not doing what it's
supposed to do: which is protect the copyrights it holds (whole reason
it induces their hand over to begin with)
On 2020-02-22 12:51, Alexandre François
Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss), le sam. 22 févr. 2020 12:22:55 -0800, a ecrit:
> On 2020-02-22 01:50, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > Really, not including the next generations in a project is running the
> > risk of the project just dying with its leaders.
>
> Project "liveness" is not the ultimate
* Samuel Thibault [2020-02-22 23:45]:
> Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss), le sam. 22 févr. 2020 10:22:55 -0800, a ecrit:
> > On 2020-02-22 01:50, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > > Yes. Which doesn't mean they should immediately be given commit power
> > > etc. But at the very least be helped to improve
On 2020-02-22 12:31, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote:
Andreas Enge, 22/02/20 21:48:
If anything, this message shows how much a code of conduct is needed.
Or maybe it shows there's a language barrier. Let's not rush to judge
non-native English speakers, especially after having admitted that the
* Samuel Thibault [2020-02-22 23:22]:
> Jean Louis, le sam. 22 févr. 2020 18:02:42 +0300, a ecrit:
> > * Samuel Thibault [2020-02-22 12:51]:
> > > Really, not including the next generations in a project is running the
> > > risk of the project just dying with its leaders.
> >
> > I can see
Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss), le sam. 22 févr. 2020 10:22:55 -0800, a ecrit:
> On 2020-02-22 01:50, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > Yes. Which doesn't mean they should immediately be given commit power
> > etc. But at the very least be helped to improve and acquire experience.
> I strongly
* Andreas Enge [2020-02-22 22:49]:
> On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 10:26:22AM -0800, Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss)
> wrote:
> > On 2020-02-22 01:22, Andreas Enge wrote:
> > > And another ad-hominem attack. Can you substantiate the claim of us
> > > being
> > > powermongers?
> >
> >
On 2020-02-22 11:48, Andreas Enge wrote:
On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 10:26:22AM -0800, Kaz Kylheku
(gnu-misc-discuss) wrote:
On 2020-02-22 01:22, Andreas Enge wrote:
> And another ad-hominem attack. Can you substantiate the claim of us
> being
> powermongers?
On 2020-02-22 01:50, Samuel Thibault wrote:
Really, not including the next generations in a project is running the
risk of the project just dying with its leaders.
Project "liveness" is not the ultimate value. If nobody is found who
will maintain it the way it ought to be, then let it die.
If
* Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss) <936-846-2...@kylheku.com> [2020-02-22 21:27]:
> On 2020-02-22 01:22, Andreas Enge wrote:
> > And another ad-hominem attack. Can you substantiate the claim of us
> > being
> > powermongers?
>
> You have a Code of Conduct, the bulk of which is about how people will
Jean Louis, le sam. 22 févr. 2020 18:02:42 +0300, a ecrit:
> * Samuel Thibault [2020-02-22 12:51]:
> > Really, not including the next generations in a project is running the
> > risk of the project just dying with its leaders.
>
> I can see great bunch of disrespect there.
>
> I am born in
Alexandre François Garreau, le sam. 22 févr. 2020 13:50:49 +0100, a ecrit:
> Le vendredi 21 février 2020, 22:57:55 CET Samuel Thibault a écrit :
> > Alexandre François Garreau, le ven. 21 févr. 2020 11:59:42 +0100, a
> ecrit:
> > > Le jeudi 20 février 2020, 18:39:52 CET Samuel Thibault a écrit :
Alexandre François Garreau, le sam. 22 févr. 2020 19:21:18 +0100, a ecrit:
> I recall some of them (likely one of those you’re thinking about is the
> same as I),
Possibly.
> > > you prefer to “aknowledge” this “will have to be done at some
> > > point”. Is if there wasn’t any middle ground
* Ludovic Courtès [2020-02-22 20:42]:
> Hi Alex,
>
> Alex Taylor skribis:
>
> > Recently we have been "invited" to approve a thing which is being called
> > the "social contract".
>
> I don’t think you have been invited to anything since you’re not in the
> ‘maintainers’ file.
>
> I’m fine
On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 10:26:22AM -0800, Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss) wrote:
> On 2020-02-22 01:22, Andreas Enge wrote:
> > And another ad-hominem attack. Can you substantiate the claim of us
> > being
> > powermongers?
>
> https://wiki.gnu.tools/wiki:code-of-conduct
> "Enforcement", "Ban",
On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 06:41:48PM +0100, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
> I’m fine with you expressing your opinion, but please keep in mind that
> it’s a discussion to be had first and foremost among GNU stakeholders.
Surely, "first and foremost" it should be a discussion to be had by the
existing
On 2020-02-22 01:22, Andreas Enge wrote:
And another ad-hominem attack. Can you substantiate the claim of us
being
powermongers?
You have a Code of Conduct, the bulk of which is about how people will
be kicked
out.
https://wiki.gnu.tools/wiki:code-of-conduct
"Enforcement", "Ban",
gnu.org/philosophy already defines in detail, less in detail, GNU can be
defined like “a free-software OS project started by rms, who increasingly
delegates on other hackers, and accept contributions”.
Then if you really want it self-contained, you copy/paste some of what’s
already in
On 2020-02-22 01:50, Samuel Thibault wrote:
Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss), le jeu. 20 févr. 2020 13:55:37 -0800, a
ecrit:
On 2020-02-20 11:42, Andreas R. wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 02:45:02PM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > > On the flip side, an argument is made that your initiative
Le vendredi 21 février 2020, 22:55:04 CET Samuel Thibault a écrit :
> Alexandre François Garreau, le ven. 21 févr. 2020 12:39:37 +0100, a
ecrit:
> > It is defeatist because it departs from the basic idea you’ll *have*
> > to
> > exclude someone at some point. No solution will ever be found.
>
>
Le samedi 22 février 2020, 18:41:48 CET Ludovic Courtès a écrit :
> Hi Alex,
>
> Alex Taylor skribis:
> > Recently we have been "invited" to approve a thing which is being
> > called the "social contract".
>
> I don’t think you have been invited to anything since you’re not in the
>
Hi Alex,
Alex Taylor skribis:
> Recently we have been "invited" to approve a thing which is being called
> the "social contract".
I don’t think you have been invited to anything since you’re not in the
‘maintainers’ file.
I’m fine with you expressing your opinion, but please keep in mind that
Le samedi 22 février 2020, 17:01:32 CET 徐继哲 - Xu Jizhe a écrit :
> 在 2020年02月22日 23:55, Alexandre François Garreau 写道:
> > Le samedi 22 février 2020, 16:54:05 CET 徐继哲 - Xu Jizhe a écrit :
> >> 在 2020年02月22日 20:51, Alexandre François Garreau 写道:
> >>> rms cannot be simply reinstated into FSF
Le samedi 22 février 2020, 16:54:05 CET 徐继哲 - Xu Jizhe a écrit :
> 在 2020年02月22日 20:51, Alexandre François Garreau 写道:
> > rms cannot be simply reinstated into FSF because he left himself
> > willingly.
>
> I don't think so.
Officially, it was so. He never denied so. That would then require
> From: DJ Delorie
> Cc: a...@gnu.org, gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org
> Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2020 10:34:31 -0500
>
> > The guiding principles of what it takes to be a maintainer of a GNU
> > project are communicated to each one of us when he or she is
> > appointed. Those principles have very important
* Samuel Thibault [2020-02-22 12:51]:
> Really, not including the next generations in a project is running the
> risk of the project just dying with its leaders.
I can see great bunch of disrespect there.
I am born in place where our parents teach us good manners.
Jean
Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss), le jeu. 20 févr. 2020 13:55:37 -0800, a ecrit:
> On 2020-02-20 11:42, Andreas R. wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 02:45:02PM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > > > On the flip side, an argument is made that your initiative might make
> > > > GNU
> > > > more
Hello,
I usually refrain from answering to messages on this mailing list that
in my eyes disqualify themselves as nonsense; but maybe sometimes one needs
to do so, as I wonder if they do not end up influencing people.
On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 07:29:45AM +, Alex Taylor wrote:
> The first part
On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 09:09:47PM +0100, Andreas Enge wrote:
> As I see it, the GNU Social Contract
> contains only trivialities in the sense that it summarises values of the
> GNU project that are already there, and as such it is far from extremist.
It could have contained only elements that
> From: DJ Delorie
> Cc: gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org
> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2020 13:10:49 -0500
>
> a...@gnu.org (Alfred M. Szmidt) writes:
> > That speaks more to the fact that the GNU project leadership has no
> > impact on project adaptation, or contributor activity. But rather it
> > is a
> Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2020 21:09:47 +0100
> From: Andreas Enge
> Cc: gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org
>
> Well, you are of course entitled to that opinion, but I am naturally of the
> opposite one.
Why "naturally"? Can you be convinced that your opinion is wrong?
(If not, this seems to be a kind of
> From: Mark Wielaard
> Cc: gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org
> Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2020 22:40:00 +0100
>
> To work on the GNU project you do not need to endorse it. But
> those who do are promising to uphold its values while working on GNU.
I don't understand the practical implications of the last
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