Re: [Bug 638955] Close Books needs documentation

2013-01-13 Thread Derek Atkins
Hi, Yawar Amin yawar.a...@gmail.com writes: This is a little embarrassing but I lost the private SSH key that I used for SVN access when I switched to a new laptop. I'll generate a new keypair and ask for access again but hoping that someone can do the docs patch in the meantime That's

Re: [Bug 638955] Close Books needs documentation

2013-01-13 Thread Yawar Amin
On 2013-01-13 20:35, Derek Atkins wrote: [...] That's too bad... I'll need your new key, and please don't lose it this time... ;-) Sending shortly, and not to worry, I'm backing up this time :-) Thanks signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [Bug 638955] Close Books needs documentation

2013-01-12 Thread Yawar Amin
close books in the documentation, I rename the bug and assign it to the documentation team. Thanks for your work. I've uploaded a couple of patches to the bug: 1. Add documentation for book closing (gnucash-docs, based on c726f61a). This adds a section on closing the books. 2. Get GnuCash

Re: [Bug 638955] Close Books needs documentation

2013-01-12 Thread John Ralls
2011-01-10 18:09:26 UTC --- [...] Because I can not find something like close books in the documentation, I rename the bug and assign it to the documentation team. Thanks for your work. I've uploaded a couple of patches to the bug: 1. Add documentation for book closing (gnucash-docs

Re: [Bug 638955] Close Books needs documentation

2013-01-12 Thread Yawar Amin
Hi John, On 2013-01-12 16:16, John Ralls wrote: Yawar, I'll commit the code if someone else doesn't beat me to it. You can commit the documentation change yourself. Regards, John Ralls This is a little embarrassing but I lost the private SSH key that I used for SVN access when I switched

Re: close books

2010-12-10 Thread Christian Stimming
Am Donnerstag, 9. Dezember 2010 schrieb Frank H. Ellenberger: Am Mittwoch, 8. Dezember 2010 um 20:46:25 schrieb Derek Atkins: Geert Janssens janssens-ge...@telenet.be writes: On Tuesday 07 December 2010, John Ralls wrote: Schema: OK. To make the policy clearer, backwards-incompatible

Re: close books

2010-12-09 Thread Frank H. Ellenberger
Am Mittwoch, 8. Dezember 2010 um 20:46:25 schrieb Derek Atkins: Geert Janssens janssens-ge...@telenet.be writes: On Tuesday 07 December 2010, John Ralls wrote: Schema: OK. To make the policy clearer, backwards-incompatible schema changes in 2.5 require a change to 2.4 to provide a read

Re: close books

2010-12-09 Thread Geert Janssens
On Thursday 09 December 2010, Frank H. Ellenberger wrote: Am Mittwoch, 8. Dezember 2010 um 20:46:25 schrieb Derek Atkins: Geert Janssens janssens-ge...@telenet.be writes: On Tuesday 07 December 2010, John Ralls wrote: Schema: OK. To make the policy clearer, backwards-incompatible schema

Re: close books

2010-12-08 Thread Derek Atkins
John Ralls jra...@ceridwen.us writes: [snip] Schema: OK. To make the policy clearer, backwards-incompatible schema changes in 2.5 require a change to 2.4 to provide a read facility for the new schema. Sure. Note that this doesn't have to happen in 2.4.0. Having it in 2.4.1 or even 2.4.6 is

Re: close books

2010-12-08 Thread Geert Janssens
On Tuesday 07 December 2010, John Ralls wrote: Schema: OK. To make the policy clearer, backwards-incompatible schema changes in 2.5 require a change to 2.4 to provide a read facility for the new schema. Do we have a wiki page for this kind of policies ? It will get lost when it's only

Re: close books

2010-12-08 Thread Derek Atkins
Geert Janssens janssens-ge...@telenet.be writes: On Tuesday 07 December 2010, John Ralls wrote: Schema: OK. To make the policy clearer, backwards-incompatible schema changes in 2.5 require a change to 2.4 to provide a read facility for the new schema. Do we have a wiki page for this kind

Re: close books

2010-12-07 Thread John Ralls
On Dec 6, 2010, at 8:07 AM, Derek Atkins wrote: Robin Chattopadhyay robinra...@gmail.com writes: At a minimum: * Update the database schema (sqlite, postgres, mysql) to add a column to the transactions table called closing_entry. * Update the XML schema to add an element called

Re: close books

2010-12-07 Thread Derek Atkins
On Tue, December 7, 2010 12:33 pm, John Ralls wrote: On Dec 6, 2010, at 8:07 AM, Derek Atkins wrote: Robin Chattopadhyay robinra...@gmail.com writes: At a minimum: * Update the database schema (sqlite, postgres, mysql) to add a column to the transactions table called closing_entry. *

Re: close books

2010-12-07 Thread John Ralls
On Dec 7, 2010, at 9:44 AM, Derek Atkins wrote: On Tue, December 7, 2010 12:33 pm, John Ralls wrote: On Dec 6, 2010, at 8:07 AM, Derek Atkins wrote: Robin Chattopadhyay robinra...@gmail.com writes: At a minimum: * Update the database schema (sqlite, postgres, mysql) to add a column

Re: close books

2010-12-06 Thread Derek Atkins
to exclude any transactions where the closing entry flag is set to 'y'. * Update the Close Books routine to set the closing entry flag to 'y' for each transaction created by the routine. This might be a little more challenging, but should be doable. Possible addition: * Update the report

Re: close books

2010-12-04 Thread Robin Chattopadhyay
to 'y'. * Update the Close Books routine to set the closing entry flag to 'y' for each transaction created by the routine. Possible addition: * Update the report customization screens to give users an option to exclude the closing entries from the report. * The default for the option would

Re: Close books trashes Income Statement and Net Income on Balance Sheet

2010-02-10 Thread Derek Atkins
JT Morée more...@yahoo.com writes: --- On Mon, 2/8/10, Derek Atkins warl...@mit.edu wrote: If you perform Cash based accounting then you need to apply your Income and Expense when the payment happens, not when you book the invoice/bill.  So in this case the invoice/bill txn does NOT apply

Re: Close books trashes Income Statement and Net Income on Balance Sheet

2010-02-09 Thread JT Morée
--- On Mon, 2/8/10, Derek Atkins warl...@mit.edu wrote: If you perform Cash based accounting then you need to apply your Income and Expense when the payment happens, not when you book the invoice/bill.  So in this case the invoice/bill txn does NOT apply to the period in which it is dated.

Re: Close books trashes Income Statement and Net Income on Balance Sheet

2010-02-08 Thread Derek Atkins
JT Morée more...@yahoo.com writes: calendar allowed for the special date year end. In other words, we could insert a date in between two (real) calendar dates that fell after the first but before the second. Think of it as a December 32 or a Jan 0 Not an easy problem for GnuCash (no way of

Re: Close books trashes Income Statement and Net Income on Balance Sheet

2010-02-08 Thread z33b0b
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 8:11 AM, Derek Atkins warl...@mit.edu wrote: JT Morée more...@yahoo.com writes: I realize my post was long but in short I believe the best solution is to have the reports be smarter. It's not difficult (almost done in fact) and it avoids the fiscal year problem you

Re: Close books trashes Income Statement and Net Income on Balance Sheet

2010-02-08 Thread Derek Atkins
z33...@gmail.com writes: On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 8:11 AM, Derek Atkins warl...@mit.edu wrote: JT Morée more...@yahoo.com writes: I realize my post was long but in short I believe the best solution is to have the reports be smarter.  It's not difficult (almost done in fact)

Re: Close books trashes Income Statement and Net Income on Balance Sheet

2010-02-08 Thread Mike or Penny Novack
You can disagree all you want, but you're still wrong. ;) The GAAP method to close the books is to create a fake date (or 'invalid' date) that sits between the periods. That's what most accountants and large-scale accounting programs do. You might dislike it, but it's the way the world works.

Re: Close books trashes Income Statement and Net Income on Balance Sheet

2010-02-07 Thread Mark Haanen
Op zaterdag 06-02-2010 om 19:33 uur [tijdzone -0800], schreef JT Morée: I realize the close books issue has been dealt with for years but I'm coming up empty on searching for this particular aspect. Please tell me if there is another way to fix this issue that I'm not seeing. As I

Re: Close books trashes Income Statement and Net Income on Balance Sheet

2010-02-07 Thread Mike or Penny Novack
JT Morée wrote: I realize the close books issue has been dealt with for years but I'm coming up empty on searching for this particular aspect. Please tell me if there is another way to fix this issue that I'm not seeing. As I have mentioned before (more than once) the way around

Re: Close books trashes Income Statement and Net Income on Balance Sheet

2010-02-07 Thread JT Morée
calendar allowed for the special date year end. In other words, we could insert a date in between two (real) calendar dates that fell after the first but before the second. Think of it as a December 32 or a Jan 0 Not an easy problem for GnuCash (no way of knowing what the user's fiscal

Re: Close books trashes Income Statement and Net Income on Balance Sheet

2010-02-07 Thread Jeff Kletsky
This one has tripped me up as well. In the business world, there often is either January 1st which is a non-business day to put the transactions on. The fake day is also another option. There are implications past just the ones indicated in an earlier post -- most accounts are impacted, as

Close books trashes Income Statement and Net Income on Balance Sheet

2010-02-06 Thread JT Morée
I realize the close books issue has been dealt with for years but I'm coming up empty on searching for this particular aspect.  Please tell me if there is another way to fix this issue that I'm not seeing. As I understand and experience the 'close books' feature:  Close books makes offsetting