Re: [GNC-dev] Wiki page removal
Already did, along with MacOSX/Fink and MacOSX/MacPorts. ;-) While we’re on the topic, can anyone think of a reason to keep the MacOSX/ReleaseNotes-2.*? They’re Mac-specific notes for releases 2.2.9-2.4.8 as I gradually got all of GnuCash’s bits and pieces working on Macs. The same release notes are contained in the respective dmgs on SourceForge. Regards, John Ralls > On Dec 4, 2018, at 9:50 AM, D via gnucash-devel > wrote: > > Ok. So, I'll ask someone to move "MacOSX/Quartz" to "MacOS/Quartz" then. > > David > > On December 4, 2018, at 12:35 AM, Geert Janssens > wrote: > > Op maandag 3 december 2018 18:18:03 CET schreef D via gnucash-devel: >> It would seem that you all have the mistaken belief that I have powers that >> have not been granted to me --specifically, I do not have any option to >> move a wiki page, thus I cannot 'preserve the talk pages' in any way, >> shape, or form. > > Well, I wasn't sure of this, hence my suggestion. But as you don't have these > rights, you can ask someone with rights to move or rename the page for you. > It > will be even less work for you :) > >> >> BTW, I'm not sure why it's suddenly a priority to change MacOSInstallation >> to MacOS_Installation. After all, everyone was plenty happy to stay with >> the outmoded MacOSXInstallation until I decided to do something about it. >> > It was not a priority. But as we were changing the page title anyway it's > nicer to have a more human readable one. I for sure am more comfortable with > reading > "MacOS Installation" than "MacOSInstallation". > > Wiki will accept both, but it won't use the former unchanged in url's as > spaces are known to be tricky. So wiki will always replace spaces with > underscores when generating a url. That's what Frank was pointing out. > > Regards, > > Geert > > > ___ > gnucash-devel mailing list > gnucash-devel@gnucash.org > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: [GNC-dev] Wiki page removal
Ok. So, I'll ask someone to move "MacOSX/Quartz" to "MacOS/Quartz" then. David On December 4, 2018, at 12:35 AM, Geert Janssens wrote: Op maandag 3 december 2018 18:18:03 CET schreef D via gnucash-devel: > It would seem that you all have the mistaken belief that I have powers that > have not been granted to me --specifically, I do not have any option to > move a wiki page, thus I cannot 'preserve the talk pages' in any way, > shape, or form. Well, I wasn't sure of this, hence my suggestion. But as you don't have these rights, you can ask someone with rights to move or rename the page for you. It will be even less work for you :) > > BTW, I'm not sure why it's suddenly a priority to change MacOSInstallation > to MacOS_Installation. After all, everyone was plenty happy to stay with > the outmoded MacOSXInstallation until I decided to do something about it. > It was not a priority. But as we were changing the page title anyway it's nicer to have a more human readable one. I for sure am more comfortable with reading "MacOS Installation" than "MacOSInstallation". Wiki will accept both, but it won't use the former unchanged in url's as spaces are known to be tricky. So wiki will always replace spaces with underscores when generating a url. That's what Frank was pointing out. Regards, Geert ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: [GNC-dev] Wiki page (re)moval rights
You are right, currently both move and delete (of pages) are Admin rights according Special:ListGroupRights. OTOH normal users can movefile, move-rootuserpages, move-categorypages and move-subpages. I don't know, how other wikis handle this. How often will you need it, David? Allowing to move categories, but no normal pages seems inconsistent to me. Similar case: Upload (of files) needs special rights, to move them not. Derek, do you remember the reasons? It might be that we lost the group editor, for which David has the rights. BTW: Did you remove the one week delay to create pages for new users? ~Frank Am 03.12.18 um 18:18 schrieb D: > It would seem that you all have the mistaken belief that I have powers that > have not been granted to me --specifically, I do not have any option to move > a wiki page, thus I cannot 'preserve the talk pages' in any way, shape, or > form. ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: [GNC-dev] Wiki page removal
Op maandag 3 december 2018 18:18:03 CET schreef D via gnucash-devel: > It would seem that you all have the mistaken belief that I have powers that > have not been granted to me --specifically, I do not have any option to > move a wiki page, thus I cannot 'preserve the talk pages' in any way, > shape, or form. Well, I wasn't sure of this, hence my suggestion. But as you don't have these rights, you can ask someone with rights to move or rename the page for you. It will be even less work for you :) > > BTW, I'm not sure why it's suddenly a priority to change MacOSInstallation > to MacOS_Installation. After all, everyone was plenty happy to stay with > the outmoded MacOSXInstallation until I decided to do something about it. > It was not a priority. But as we were changing the page title anyway it's nicer to have a more human readable one. I for sure am more comfortable with reading "MacOS Installation" than "MacOSInstallation". Wiki will accept both, but it won't use the former unchanged in url's as spaces are known to be tricky. So wiki will always replace spaces with underscores when generating a url. That's what Frank was pointing out. Regards, Geert ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: [GNC-dev] Wiki page removal
It would seem that you all have the mistaken belief that I have powers that have not been granted to me --specifically, I do not have any option to move a wiki page, thus I cannot 'preserve the talk pages' in any way, shape, or form. BTW, I'm not sure why it's suddenly a priority to change MacOSInstallation to MacOS_Installation. After all, everyone was plenty happy to stay with the outmoded MacOSXInstallation until I decided to do something about it. David On December 3, 2018, at 10:34 PM, "Frank H. Ellenberger" wrote: While moving a page * by default a redirect will be created and * the talk page will move, too. BTW, I have redone it and named it "MacOS Installation" which is better readable. While Wiki links know to handle blanks and other nonASCII chars, in other references you have to map them: Space to underline, ... ~Frank Am 03.12.18 um 14:41 schrieb Derek Atkins: > I think the better option is to edit the page and leave it as a forward > reference to the new page. That way it wont brak existing links. > > -derek > > On Mon, December 3, 2018 7:26 am, Geert Janssens wrote: >> I think the manual method is indeed available to you. I don't know if the >> option to move a page is visible for you under the "More" menu. That's >> both a >> shorthand way of doing it which deals a bit better with page history and >> related talk pages. >> >> Geert >> >> Op maandag 3 december 2018 13:06:36 CET schreef David T.: >>> Ah. Ok. I guess I could do that next time! >>> >>> On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 17:34, Geert >>> Janssens >> wrote: Op maandag 3 december 2018 12:32:56 CET schreef David T. via >> gnucash- >> devel: Hello, I am requesting that someone with delete rights on the wiki remove wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/MacOSXInstallation Note the "X" in the url; I have duplicated the content into wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/MacOSInstallation and changed all referring pages to this. This is to match Apple's nomenclature. David ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel >>> >>> David, >>> >>> Thanks for cleaning up. I have made the original page redirect to the >>> renamed page instead to avoid invalid links from outside of the wiki to >>> this page. >>> >>> Geert >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> gnucash-devel mailing list >> gnucash-devel@gnucash.org >> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel >> > > ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: [GNC-dev] Wiki page removal
While moving a page * by default a redirect will be created and * the talk page will move, too. BTW, I have redone it and named it "MacOS Installation" which is better readable. While Wiki links know to handle blanks and other nonASCII chars, in other references you have to map them: Space to underline, ... ~Frank Am 03.12.18 um 14:41 schrieb Derek Atkins: > I think the better option is to edit the page and leave it as a forward > reference to the new page. That way it wont brak existing links. > > -derek > > On Mon, December 3, 2018 7:26 am, Geert Janssens wrote: >> I think the manual method is indeed available to you. I don't know if the >> option to move a page is visible for you under the "More" menu. That's >> both a >> shorthand way of doing it which deals a bit better with page history and >> related talk pages. >> >> Geert >> >> Op maandag 3 december 2018 13:06:36 CET schreef David T.: >>> Ah. Ok. I guess I could do that next time! >>> >>> On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 17:34, Geert >>> Janssens >> wrote: Op maandag 3 december 2018 12:32:56 CET schreef David T. via >> gnucash- >> devel: Hello, I am requesting that someone with delete rights on the wiki remove wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/MacOSXInstallation Note the "X" in the url; I have duplicated the content into wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/MacOSInstallation and changed all referring pages to this. This is to match Apple's nomenclature. David ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel >>> >>> David, >>> >>> Thanks for cleaning up. I have made the original page redirect to the >>> renamed page instead to avoid invalid links from outside of the wiki to >>> this page. >>> >>> Geert >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> gnucash-devel mailing list >> gnucash-devel@gnucash.org >> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel >> > > ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: [GNC-dev] Wiki page removal
Op maandag 3 december 2018 14:41:48 CET schreef Derek Atkins: > I think the better option is to edit the page and leave it as a forward > reference to the new page. That way it wont brak existing links. > > -derek That's what both options I mentioned do. Geert ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: [GNC-dev] Wiki page removal
I think the better option is to edit the page and leave it as a forward reference to the new page. That way it wont brak existing links. -derek On Mon, December 3, 2018 7:26 am, Geert Janssens wrote: > I think the manual method is indeed available to you. I don't know if the > option to move a page is visible for you under the "More" menu. That's > both a > shorthand way of doing it which deals a bit better with page history and > related talk pages. > > Geert > > Op maandag 3 december 2018 13:06:36 CET schreef David T.: >> Ah. Ok. I guess I could do that next time! >> >> On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 17:34, Geert >> Janssens > wrote: Op maandag 3 december 2018 12:32:56 CET schreef David T. via > gnucash- > devel: >> > Hello, >> > I am requesting that someone with delete rights on the wiki remove >> > wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/MacOSXInstallation >> > Note the "X" in the url; I have duplicated the content into >> > wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/MacOSInstallation >> > and changed all referring pages to this. This is to match Apple's >> > nomenclature. David >> > >> > ___ >> > gnucash-devel mailing list >> > gnucash-devel@gnucash.org >> > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel >> >> David, >> >> Thanks for cleaning up. I have made the original page redirect to the >> renamed page instead to avoid invalid links from outside of the wiki to >> this page. >> >> Geert > > > > > ___ > gnucash-devel mailing list > gnucash-devel@gnucash.org > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel > -- Derek Atkins 617-623-3745 de...@ihtfp.com www.ihtfp.com Computer and Internet Security Consultant ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: [GNC-dev] Wiki page removal
I think the manual method is indeed available to you. I don't know if the option to move a page is visible for you under the "More" menu. That's both a shorthand way of doing it which deals a bit better with page history and related talk pages. Geert Op maandag 3 december 2018 13:06:36 CET schreef David T.: > Ah. Ok. I guess I could do that next time! > > On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 17:34, Geert Janssens wrote: Op maandag 3 december 2018 12:32:56 CET schreef David T. via gnucash- devel: > > Hello, > > I am requesting that someone with delete rights on the wiki remove > > wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/MacOSXInstallation > > Note the "X" in the url; I have duplicated the content into > > wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/MacOSInstallation > > and changed all referring pages to this. This is to match Apple's > > nomenclature. David > > > > ___ > > gnucash-devel mailing list > > gnucash-devel@gnucash.org > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel > > David, > > Thanks for cleaning up. I have made the original page redirect to the > renamed page instead to avoid invalid links from outside of the wiki to > this page. > > Geert ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: [GNC-dev] Wiki page removal
Op maandag 3 december 2018 12:32:56 CET schreef David T. via gnucash-devel: > Hello, > I am requesting that someone with delete rights on the wiki remove > wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/MacOSXInstallation > Note the "X" in the url; I have duplicated the content into > wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/MacOSInstallation > and changed all referring pages to this. This is to match Apple's > nomenclature. David > > ___ > gnucash-devel mailing list > gnucash-devel@gnucash.org > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel David, Thanks for cleaning up. I have made the original page redirect to the renamed page instead to avoid invalid links from outside of the wiki to this page. Geert ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: [GNC-dev] Wiki page removal
Ah. Ok. I guess I could do that next time! On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 17:34, Geert Janssens wrote: Op maandag 3 december 2018 12:32:56 CET schreef David T. via gnucash-devel: > Hello, > I am requesting that someone with delete rights on the wiki remove > wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/MacOSXInstallation > Note the "X" in the url; I have duplicated the content into > wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/MacOSInstallation > and changed all referring pages to this. This is to match Apple's > nomenclature. David > > ___ > gnucash-devel mailing list > gnucash-devel@gnucash.org > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel David, Thanks for cleaning up. I have made the original page redirect to the renamed page instead to avoid invalid links from outside of the wiki to this page. Geert ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
[GNC-dev] Wiki page removal
Hello, I am requesting that someone with delete rights on the wiki remove wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/MacOSXInstallation Note the "X" in the url; I have duplicated the content into wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/MacOSInstallation and changed all referring pages to this. This is to match Apple's nomenclature. David ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
