Re: [GNC-dev] Missing column header labels after resizing columns (Windows 10, GC version 4.12)

[David T. via gnucash-devel]

Respectfully, the problem is that GnuCash stores and handles its metadata in a 
variety of ways as a consequence of its cross platform nature and its 
development history. 

GnuCash was originally (and remains primarily to this day) developed on Linux, 
and has been ported to Windows to meet the needs of a broader user base. The 
Linux-based settings environment is radically different from Windows, and the 
(small number of) developers for GnuCash have had to find solutions to manage 
these differences. These solutions have had to change over time. This has 
resulted in the confusing system in place today. 

That portions of the software settings linger on Windows after uninstalling is 
annoying, but not generally catastrophic. Indeed, since a GnuCash upgrade on 
Windows is basically an uninstall/install process, most users would be greatly 
inconvenienced if their custom settings (stored in the registry) were removed 
upon upgrading. 

As a volunteer managed software package, GnuCash relies on the heroic efforts 
of a very small developer base to keep it up to date. Unfortunately, there 
aren't developer teams dedicated to building full cross platform functionality, 
so users must accept these limitations and take up the slack.

If, in your opinion, the information regarding the registry entries on Windows 
is poorly documented, I'd recommend that you update the wiki to meet your 
specifications. The likelihood that the (small, Linux-focused) dev team will 
prioritize a corner case such as yours is small. There are simply many higher 
priorities.

David T.​

On Dec 5, 2022, 06:52, at 06:52, David Carlson  
wrote:
>Scott,
>
>If you still have a copy of the offending registry files in your trash
>folder, recover it and  put it in your bug report.  It could help a
>developer find out what went wrong.
>
>On Sun, Dec 4, 2022 at 8:37 PM Scott Traurig 
>wrote:
>
>> David,
>>
>> Please look again. The metadata file that John referred me to is
>*exactly*
>> the same one as in the FAQ.
>>
>> I was just able to solve the problem a few minutes ago by deleting
>the
>> registry information under HKEY_CURRENT_USER/software/Gsettings. That
>was
>> where the problem was. I did not try to identify precisely which
>registry
>> key was at fault, I do not have sufficient knowledge of the software
>to do
>> so efficiently. Instead I uninstalled, deleted the registry info,
>manually
>> deleted the %appdata%/gnucash folder for good measure, then
>reinstalled.
>>
>> And, because this bug (and it is a bug) affects literally every book
>on
>> the machine, I will have to grab another machine here that I am not
>using
>> for production, install GnuCash, and try to replicate it there so I
>can
>> submit a proper bug report.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 4, 2022 at 9:15 PM David Carlson
>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Scott,
>>>
>>> The metadata file that John referred you to is not FAQ that you
>checked
>>> but a file on your hard drive.  The exact location depends on your
>os.
>>> Look under Configuration section of
>
>>> to find it.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 4, 2022 at 6:11 PM Scott Traurig
>
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi John,

 Respectfully, this is beyond the user-list. That list has come up
>dry,
 and
 the conventional FAQ answer is not working.

 The relevant FAQ entry:

 <


>https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/FAQ#Q:_How_do_I_resize_my_register_columns.3F_Why_can_I_not_shrink_the_description_column.3F
 >

 That FAQ entry looked promising, but it did not solve the problem.
>There
 are no entries in the .gcm file showing zero width to edit.

 Worse, uninstalling GnuCash and deleting the entire C:\Users\my
>user
 name\AppData\Roaming\GnuCash directory, including all .gcm files
>such
 that
 they would be reconstituted from scratch, does not work either.

 Interestingly, somewhere in the system it remembers what book I had
>open
 even through an uninstall/reinstall cycle. I suspect it has
>something to
 do
 with that.

 And whatever/wherever that data is, it also transcends books. If I
>create
 an entirely new book, it also immediately has the exact same
>missing
 column
 label problem

 It's also worth noting that the columns themselves are visible with
 normal
 appearing widths. Only the labels are missing. I've attached a
>screen
 shot.

 Is there another directory somewhere, or a set of registry entries,
>that
 also need to be deleted?

 Thank you,

 Scott


 On Sun, Dec 4, 2022 at 6:11 PM john  wrote:

 > That's a user-list question. I've changed the CC for your
>convenience.
 >
 > The file you're looking for is the book's metadata file, see
 > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Metadata_File. It stores among
>other
 things
 > window sizes and column widths for registers.
 >
 > Regards,
 > John 

Re: [GNC-dev] Missing column header labels after resizing columns (Windows 10, GC version 4.12)

[john]

Dear Mr. Taurig,

No, it's a user list item because you are asking about how to use GnuCash, not 
how to write GnuCash code.

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Dec 4, 2022, at 4:10 PM, Scott Traurig  wrote:
> 
> Hi John,
> 
> Respectfully, this is beyond the user-list. That list has come up dry, and 
> the conventional FAQ answer is not working.
> 
> The relevant FAQ entry:
> 
> 
> 
> That FAQ entry looked promising, but it did not solve the problem. There are 
> no entries in the .gcm file showing zero width to edit.
> 
> Worse, uninstalling GnuCash and deleting the entire C:\Users\my user 
> name\AppData\Roaming\GnuCash directory, including all .gcm files such that 
> they would be reconstituted from scratch, does not work either.
> 
> Interestingly, somewhere in the system it remembers what book I had open even 
> through an uninstall/reinstall cycle. I suspect it has something to do with 
> that.
> 
> And whatever/wherever that data is, it also transcends books. If I create an 
> entirely new book, it also immediately has the exact same missing column 
> label problem
> 
> It's also worth noting that the columns themselves are visible with normal 
> appearing widths. Only the labels are missing. I've attached a screen shot.
> 
> Is there another directory somewhere, or a set of registry entries, that also 
> need to be deleted?
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Scott
> 
> 
> On Sun, Dec 4, 2022 at 6:11 PM john  > wrote:
>> That's a user-list question. I've changed the CC for your convenience.
>> 
>> The file you're looking for is the book's metadata file, see 
>> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Metadata_File. It stores among other things 
>> window sizes and column widths for registers.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> John Ralls
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 4, 2022, at 1:56 PM, Scott Traurig >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dev's,
>>> 
>>> After resizing some column headers in an account, the labels for the
>>> Transfer and Reconciled ("R") columns have disappeared. The header blocks
>>> for both are now combined into a single blank field.
>>> 
>>> I tried un-installing, including manually removing the folders in %appdata%
>>> and Program Files (x86), but the problem persists after re-installing
>>> GnuCash.
>>> 
>>> I grabbed another Windows 10 machine, installed on it, and opened the
>>> .gnucash file that I normally use from it's normal directory on my NAS
>>> without the same problem appearing--all column headers are fine. So the
>>> .gnucash file is OK.
>>> 
>>> Thus it would appear that there is a file that is not removed during a
>>> Windows uninstall (or the manual files I deleted), or a registry setting
>>> that persists and continues to cause this behavior on my main PC.
>>> 
>>> If someone could identify the offending file or registry setting for me so
>>> that I can kill it it would be most appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Scott
>>> ___
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>>> gnucash-devel@gnucash.org 
>>> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
>> 
> 

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[GNC-dev] String Freeze

[john]

Devs, the 4.13 release is in two weeks so that means that there's a string 
freeze on maint until then.

Regards,
John Ralls

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Re: [GNC-dev] Missing column header labels after resizing columns (Windows 10, GC version 4.12)

[David Carlson]

Scott,

If you still have a copy of the offending registry files in your trash
folder, recover it and  put it in your bug report.  It could help a
developer find out what went wrong.

On Sun, Dec 4, 2022 at 8:37 PM Scott Traurig 
wrote:

> David,
>
> Please look again. The metadata file that John referred me to is *exactly*
> the same one as in the FAQ.
>
> I was just able to solve the problem a few minutes ago by deleting the
> registry information under HKEY_CURRENT_USER/software/Gsettings. That was
> where the problem was. I did not try to identify precisely which registry
> key was at fault, I do not have sufficient knowledge of the software to do
> so efficiently. Instead I uninstalled, deleted the registry info, manually
> deleted the %appdata%/gnucash folder for good measure, then reinstalled.
>
> And, because this bug (and it is a bug) affects literally every book on
> the machine, I will have to grab another machine here that I am not using
> for production, install GnuCash, and try to replicate it there so I can
> submit a proper bug report.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Scott
>
> On Sun, Dec 4, 2022 at 9:15 PM David Carlson 
> wrote:
>
>> Scott,
>>
>> The metadata file that John referred you to is not FAQ that you checked
>> but a file on your hard drive.  The exact location depends on your os.
>> Look under Configuration section of 
>> to find it.
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 4, 2022 at 6:11 PM Scott Traurig 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi John,
>>>
>>> Respectfully, this is beyond the user-list. That list has come up dry,
>>> and
>>> the conventional FAQ answer is not working.
>>>
>>> The relevant FAQ entry:
>>>
>>> <
>>>
>>> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/FAQ#Q:_How_do_I_resize_my_register_columns.3F_Why_can_I_not_shrink_the_description_column.3F
>>> >
>>>
>>> That FAQ entry looked promising, but it did not solve the problem. There
>>> are no entries in the .gcm file showing zero width to edit.
>>>
>>> Worse, uninstalling GnuCash and deleting the entire C:\Users\my user
>>> name\AppData\Roaming\GnuCash directory, including all .gcm files such
>>> that
>>> they would be reconstituted from scratch, does not work either.
>>>
>>> Interestingly, somewhere in the system it remembers what book I had open
>>> even through an uninstall/reinstall cycle. I suspect it has something to
>>> do
>>> with that.
>>>
>>> And whatever/wherever that data is, it also transcends books. If I create
>>> an entirely new book, it also immediately has the exact same missing
>>> column
>>> label problem
>>>
>>> It's also worth noting that the columns themselves are visible with
>>> normal
>>> appearing widths. Only the labels are missing. I've attached a screen
>>> shot.
>>>
>>> Is there another directory somewhere, or a set of registry entries, that
>>> also need to be deleted?
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 4, 2022 at 6:11 PM john  wrote:
>>>
>>> > That's a user-list question. I've changed the CC for your convenience.
>>> >
>>> > The file you're looking for is the book's metadata file, see
>>> > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Metadata_File. It stores among other
>>> things
>>> > window sizes and column widths for registers.
>>> >
>>> > Regards,
>>> > John Ralls
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Dec 4, 2022, at 1:56 PM, Scott Traurig 
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Dev's,
>>> >
>>> > After resizing some column headers in an account, the labels for the
>>> > Transfer and Reconciled ("R") columns have disappeared. The header
>>> blocks
>>> > for both are now combined into a single blank field.
>>> >
>>> > I tried un-installing, including manually removing the folders in
>>> %appdata%
>>> > and Program Files (x86), but the problem persists after re-installing
>>> > GnuCash.
>>> >
>>> > I grabbed another Windows 10 machine, installed on it, and opened the
>>> > .gnucash file that I normally use from it's normal directory on my NAS
>>> > without the same problem appearing--all column headers are fine. So the
>>> > .gnucash file is OK.
>>> >
>>> > Thus it would appear that there is a file that is not removed during a
>>> > Windows uninstall (or the manual files I deleted), or a registry
>>> setting
>>> > that persists and continues to cause this behavior on my main PC.
>>> >
>>> > If someone could identify the offending file or registry setting for
>>> me so
>>> > that I can kill it it would be most appreciated.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks,
>>> >
>>> > Scott
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>>> > gnucash-devel@gnucash.org
>>> > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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>>
>>
>> --
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>>
>

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Re: [GNC-dev] Missing column header labels after resizing columns (Windows 10, GC version 4.12)

[Scott Traurig]

David,

Please look again. The metadata file that John referred me to is *exactly*
the same one as in the FAQ.

I was just able to solve the problem a few minutes ago by deleting the
registry information under HKEY_CURRENT_USER/software/Gsettings. That was
where the problem was. I did not try to identify precisely which registry
key was at fault, I do not have sufficient knowledge of the software to do
so efficiently. Instead I uninstalled, deleted the registry info, manually
deleted the %appdata%/gnucash folder for good measure, then reinstalled.

And, because this bug (and it is a bug) affects literally every book on the
machine, I will have to grab another machine here that I am not using for
production, install GnuCash, and try to replicate it there so I can submit
a proper bug report.

Thanks,

Scott

On Sun, Dec 4, 2022 at 9:15 PM David Carlson 
wrote:

> Scott,
>
> The metadata file that John referred you to is not FAQ that you checked
> but a file on your hard drive.  The exact location depends on your os.
> Look under Configuration section of 
> to find it.
>
> On Sun, Dec 4, 2022 at 6:11 PM Scott Traurig 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> Respectfully, this is beyond the user-list. That list has come up dry, and
>> the conventional FAQ answer is not working.
>>
>> The relevant FAQ entry:
>>
>> <
>>
>> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/FAQ#Q:_How_do_I_resize_my_register_columns.3F_Why_can_I_not_shrink_the_description_column.3F
>> >
>>
>> That FAQ entry looked promising, but it did not solve the problem. There
>> are no entries in the .gcm file showing zero width to edit.
>>
>> Worse, uninstalling GnuCash and deleting the entire C:\Users\my user
>> name\AppData\Roaming\GnuCash directory, including all .gcm files such that
>> they would be reconstituted from scratch, does not work either.
>>
>> Interestingly, somewhere in the system it remembers what book I had open
>> even through an uninstall/reinstall cycle. I suspect it has something to
>> do
>> with that.
>>
>> And whatever/wherever that data is, it also transcends books. If I create
>> an entirely new book, it also immediately has the exact same missing
>> column
>> label problem
>>
>> It's also worth noting that the columns themselves are visible with normal
>> appearing widths. Only the labels are missing. I've attached a screen
>> shot.
>>
>> Is there another directory somewhere, or a set of registry entries, that
>> also need to be deleted?
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Scott
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 4, 2022 at 6:11 PM john  wrote:
>>
>> > That's a user-list question. I've changed the CC for your convenience.
>> >
>> > The file you're looking for is the book's metadata file, see
>> > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Metadata_File. It stores among other
>> things
>> > window sizes and column widths for registers.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > John Ralls
>> >
>> >
>> > On Dec 4, 2022, at 1:56 PM, Scott Traurig 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Dev's,
>> >
>> > After resizing some column headers in an account, the labels for the
>> > Transfer and Reconciled ("R") columns have disappeared. The header
>> blocks
>> > for both are now combined into a single blank field.
>> >
>> > I tried un-installing, including manually removing the folders in
>> %appdata%
>> > and Program Files (x86), but the problem persists after re-installing
>> > GnuCash.
>> >
>> > I grabbed another Windows 10 machine, installed on it, and opened the
>> > .gnucash file that I normally use from it's normal directory on my NAS
>> > without the same problem appearing--all column headers are fine. So the
>> > .gnucash file is OK.
>> >
>> > Thus it would appear that there is a file that is not removed during a
>> > Windows uninstall (or the manual files I deleted), or a registry setting
>> > that persists and continues to cause this behavior on my main PC.
>> >
>> > If someone could identify the offending file or registry setting for me
>> so
>> > that I can kill it it would be most appreciated.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Scott
>> > ___
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>> > gnucash-devel@gnucash.org
>> > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>
>
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>
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Re: [GNC-dev] Missing column header labels after resizing columns (Windows 10, GC version 4.12)

[David Carlson]

Scott,

The metadata file that John referred you to is not FAQ that you checked but
a file on your hard drive.  The exact location depends on your os.  Look
under Configuration section of  to
find it.

On Sun, Dec 4, 2022 at 6:11 PM Scott Traurig 
wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> Respectfully, this is beyond the user-list. That list has come up dry, and
> the conventional FAQ answer is not working.
>
> The relevant FAQ entry:
>
> <
>
> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/FAQ#Q:_How_do_I_resize_my_register_columns.3F_Why_can_I_not_shrink_the_description_column.3F
> >
>
> That FAQ entry looked promising, but it did not solve the problem. There
> are no entries in the .gcm file showing zero width to edit.
>
> Worse, uninstalling GnuCash and deleting the entire C:\Users\my user
> name\AppData\Roaming\GnuCash directory, including all .gcm files such that
> they would be reconstituted from scratch, does not work either.
>
> Interestingly, somewhere in the system it remembers what book I had open
> even through an uninstall/reinstall cycle. I suspect it has something to do
> with that.
>
> And whatever/wherever that data is, it also transcends books. If I create
> an entirely new book, it also immediately has the exact same missing column
> label problem
>
> It's also worth noting that the columns themselves are visible with normal
> appearing widths. Only the labels are missing. I've attached a screen shot.
>
> Is there another directory somewhere, or a set of registry entries, that
> also need to be deleted?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Scott
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 4, 2022 at 6:11 PM john  wrote:
>
> > That's a user-list question. I've changed the CC for your convenience.
> >
> > The file you're looking for is the book's metadata file, see
> > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Metadata_File. It stores among other
> things
> > window sizes and column widths for registers.
> >
> > Regards,
> > John Ralls
> >
> >
> > On Dec 4, 2022, at 1:56 PM, Scott Traurig 
> wrote:
> >
> > Dev's,
> >
> > After resizing some column headers in an account, the labels for the
> > Transfer and Reconciled ("R") columns have disappeared. The header blocks
> > for both are now combined into a single blank field.
> >
> > I tried un-installing, including manually removing the folders in
> %appdata%
> > and Program Files (x86), but the problem persists after re-installing
> > GnuCash.
> >
> > I grabbed another Windows 10 machine, installed on it, and opened the
> > .gnucash file that I normally use from it's normal directory on my NAS
> > without the same problem appearing--all column headers are fine. So the
> > .gnucash file is OK.
> >
> > Thus it would appear that there is a file that is not removed during a
> > Windows uninstall (or the manual files I deleted), or a registry setting
> > that persists and continues to cause this behavior on my main PC.
> >
> > If someone could identify the offending file or registry setting for me
> so
> > that I can kill it it would be most appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Scott
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Re: [GNC-dev] Missing column header labels after resizing columns (Windows 10, GC version 4.12)

[Scott Traurig]

Hi John,

Respectfully, this is beyond the user-list. That list has come up dry, and
the conventional FAQ answer is not working.

The relevant FAQ entry:

<
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/FAQ#Q:_How_do_I_resize_my_register_columns.3F_Why_can_I_not_shrink_the_description_column.3F
>

That FAQ entry looked promising, but it did not solve the problem. There
are no entries in the .gcm file showing zero width to edit.

Worse, uninstalling GnuCash and deleting the entire C:\Users\my user
name\AppData\Roaming\GnuCash directory, including all .gcm files such that
they would be reconstituted from scratch, does not work either.

Interestingly, somewhere in the system it remembers what book I had open
even through an uninstall/reinstall cycle. I suspect it has something to do
with that.

And whatever/wherever that data is, it also transcends books. If I create
an entirely new book, it also immediately has the exact same missing column
label problem

It's also worth noting that the columns themselves are visible with normal
appearing widths. Only the labels are missing. I've attached a screen shot.

Is there another directory somewhere, or a set of registry entries, that
also need to be deleted?

Thank you,

Scott


On Sun, Dec 4, 2022 at 6:11 PM john  wrote:

> That's a user-list question. I've changed the CC for your convenience.
>
> The file you're looking for is the book's metadata file, see
> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Metadata_File. It stores among other things
> window sizes and column widths for registers.
>
> Regards,
> John Ralls
>
>
> On Dec 4, 2022, at 1:56 PM, Scott Traurig  wrote:
>
> Dev's,
>
> After resizing some column headers in an account, the labels for the
> Transfer and Reconciled ("R") columns have disappeared. The header blocks
> for both are now combined into a single blank field.
>
> I tried un-installing, including manually removing the folders in %appdata%
> and Program Files (x86), but the problem persists after re-installing
> GnuCash.
>
> I grabbed another Windows 10 machine, installed on it, and opened the
> .gnucash file that I normally use from it's normal directory on my NAS
> without the same problem appearing--all column headers are fine. So the
> .gnucash file is OK.
>
> Thus it would appear that there is a file that is not removed during a
> Windows uninstall (or the manual files I deleted), or a registry setting
> that persists and continues to cause this behavior on my main PC.
>
> If someone could identify the offending file or registry setting for me so
> that I can kill it it would be most appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Scott
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[GNC-dev] Missing column header labels after resizing columns (Windows 10, GC version 4.12)

[Scott Traurig]

Dev's,

After resizing some column headers in an account, the labels for the
Transfer and Reconciled ("R") columns have disappeared. The header blocks
for both are now combined into a single blank field.

I tried un-installing, including manually removing the folders in %appdata%
and Program Files (x86), but the problem persists after re-installing
GnuCash.

I grabbed another Windows 10 machine, installed on it, and opened the
.gnucash file that I normally use from it's normal directory on my NAS
without the same problem appearing--all column headers are fine. So the
.gnucash file is OK.

Thus it would appear that there is a file that is not removed during a
Windows uninstall (or the manual files I deleted), or a registry setting
that persists and continues to cause this behavior on my main PC.

If someone could identify the offending file or registry setting for me so
that I can kill it it would be most appreciated.

Thanks,

Scott
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