Re: [GNC-dev] Wiki page removal

2018-12-04 Thread John Ralls
OK. I’ve removed them and left a note in MacOSX/ReleaseNotes saying that 
they’re available in the dmgs.

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Dec 4, 2018, at 5:45 PM, Geert Janssens  wrote:
> 
> I am inclined to remove them or if we want to be really conservative you can 
> create one MacOS/ReleasenotesObsolete and redirect all others to this one. 
> That page can then simply refer to the release notes on the main gnucash 
> website or the respective dmgs.
> 
> I thought we decided at least any page relating to 2.2.x and before could 
> safely be removed anyway.
> 
> Geert
> 
> Op dinsdag 4 december 2018 07:32:17 CET schreef John Ralls:
>> Already did, along with MacOSX/Fink and MacOSX/MacPorts. ;-)
>> 
>> While we’re on the topic, can anyone think of a reason to keep the
>> MacOSX/ReleaseNotes-2.*? They’re Mac-specific notes for releases
>> 2.2.9-2.4.8 as I gradually got all of GnuCash’s bits and pieces working on
>> Macs. The same release notes are contained in the respective dmgs on
>> SourceForge.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> John Ralls
>> 
>>> On Dec 4, 2018, at 9:50 AM, D via gnucash-devel
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ok. So, I'll ask someone to move "MacOSX/Quartz" to "MacOS/Quartz" then.
>>> 
>>> David
>>> 
>>> On December 4, 2018, at 12:35 AM, Geert Janssens
>>>  wrote:> 
>>> Op maandag 3 december 2018 18:18:03 CET schreef D via gnucash-devel:
 It would seem that you all have the mistaken belief that I have powers
 that
 have not been granted to me --specifically, I do not have any option to
 move a wiki page, thus I cannot 'preserve the talk pages' in any way,
 shape, or form.
>>> 
>>> Well, I wasn't sure of this, hence my suggestion. But as you don't have
>>> these rights, you can ask someone with rights to move or rename the page
>>> for you. It will be even less work for you :)
>>> 
 BTW, I'm not sure why it's suddenly a priority to change
 MacOSInstallation
 to MacOS_Installation. After all, everyone was plenty happy to stay with
 the outmoded MacOSXInstallation until I decided to do something about it.
>>> 
>>> It was not a priority. But as we were changing the page title anyway it's
>>> nicer to have a more human readable one. I for sure am more comfortable
>>> with reading
>>> "MacOS Installation" than "MacOSInstallation".
>>> 
>>> Wiki will accept both,  but it won't use the former unchanged in url's as
>>> spaces are known to be tricky. So wiki will always replace spaces with
>>> underscores when generating a url. That's what Frank was pointing out.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Geert
>>> 
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Re: [GNC-dev] Wiki page removal

2018-12-04 Thread Geert Janssens
I am inclined to remove them or if we want to be really conservative you can 
create one MacOS/ReleasenotesObsolete and redirect all others to this one. 
That page can then simply refer to the release notes on the main gnucash 
website or the respective dmgs.

I thought we decided at least any page relating to 2.2.x and before could 
safely be removed anyway.

Geert

Op dinsdag 4 december 2018 07:32:17 CET schreef John Ralls:
> Already did, along with MacOSX/Fink and MacOSX/MacPorts. ;-)
> 
> While we’re on the topic, can anyone think of a reason to keep the
> MacOSX/ReleaseNotes-2.*? They’re Mac-specific notes for releases
> 2.2.9-2.4.8 as I gradually got all of GnuCash’s bits and pieces working on
> Macs. The same release notes are contained in the respective dmgs on
> SourceForge.
> 
> Regards,
> John Ralls
> 
> > On Dec 4, 2018, at 9:50 AM, D via gnucash-devel
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Ok. So, I'll ask someone to move "MacOSX/Quartz" to "MacOS/Quartz" then.
> > 
> > David
> > 
> > On December 4, 2018, at 12:35 AM, Geert Janssens
> >  wrote:> 
> > Op maandag 3 december 2018 18:18:03 CET schreef D via gnucash-devel:
> >> It would seem that you all have the mistaken belief that I have powers
> >> that
> >> have not been granted to me --specifically, I do not have any option to
> >> move a wiki page, thus I cannot 'preserve the talk pages' in any way,
> >> shape, or form.
> > 
> > Well, I wasn't sure of this, hence my suggestion. But as you don't have
> > these rights, you can ask someone with rights to move or rename the page
> > for you. It will be even less work for you :)
> > 
> >> BTW, I'm not sure why it's suddenly a priority to change
> >> MacOSInstallation
> >> to MacOS_Installation. After all, everyone was plenty happy to stay with
> >> the outmoded MacOSXInstallation until I decided to do something about it.
> > 
> > It was not a priority. But as we were changing the page title anyway it's
> > nicer to have a more human readable one. I for sure am more comfortable
> > with reading
> > "MacOS Installation" than "MacOSInstallation".
> > 
> > Wiki will accept both,  but it won't use the former unchanged in url's as
> > spaces are known to be tricky. So wiki will always replace spaces with
> > underscores when generating a url. That's what Frank was pointing out.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Geert
> > 
> > 
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Re: [GNC-dev] Wiki page removal

2018-12-03 Thread John Ralls
Already did, along with MacOSX/Fink and MacOSX/MacPorts. ;-)

While we’re on the topic, can anyone think of a reason to keep the 
MacOSX/ReleaseNotes-2.*? They’re Mac-specific notes for releases 2.2.9-2.4.8 as 
I gradually got all of GnuCash’s bits and pieces working on Macs. The same 
release notes are contained in the respective dmgs on SourceForge.

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Dec 4, 2018, at 9:50 AM, D via gnucash-devel  
> wrote:
> 
> Ok. So, I'll ask someone to move "MacOSX/Quartz" to "MacOS/Quartz" then.
> 
> David
> 
> On December 4, 2018, at 12:35 AM, Geert Janssens  
> wrote:
> 
> Op maandag 3 december 2018 18:18:03 CET schreef D via gnucash-devel:
>> It would seem that you all have the mistaken belief that I have powers that
>> have not been granted to me --specifically, I do not have any option to
>> move a wiki page, thus I cannot 'preserve the talk pages' in any way,
>> shape, or form.
> 
> Well, I wasn't sure of this, hence my suggestion. But as you don't have these 
> rights, you can ask someone with rights to move or rename the page for you. 
> It 
> will be even less work for you :)
> 
>> 
>> BTW, I'm not sure why it's suddenly a priority to change MacOSInstallation
>> to MacOS_Installation. After all, everyone was plenty happy to stay with
>> the outmoded MacOSXInstallation until I decided to do something about it.
>> 
> It was not a priority. But as we were changing the page title anyway it's 
> nicer to have a more human readable one. I for sure am more comfortable with 
> reading
> "MacOS Installation" than "MacOSInstallation".
> 
> Wiki will accept both,  but it won't use the former unchanged in url's as 
> spaces are known to be tricky. So wiki will always replace spaces with 
> underscores when generating a url. That's what Frank was pointing out.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Geert
> 
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Re: [GNC-dev] Wiki page removal

2018-12-03 Thread D via gnucash-devel
Ok. So, I'll ask someone to move "MacOSX/Quartz" to "MacOS/Quartz" then.

David

On December 4, 2018, at 12:35 AM, Geert Janssens  
wrote:

Op maandag 3 december 2018 18:18:03 CET schreef D via gnucash-devel:
> It would seem that you all have the mistaken belief that I have powers that
> have not been granted to me --specifically, I do not have any option to
> move a wiki page, thus I cannot 'preserve the talk pages' in any way,
> shape, or form.

Well, I wasn't sure of this, hence my suggestion. But as you don't have these 
rights, you can ask someone with rights to move or rename the page for you. It 
will be even less work for you :)

> 
> BTW, I'm not sure why it's suddenly a priority to change MacOSInstallation
> to MacOS_Installation. After all, everyone was plenty happy to stay with
> the outmoded MacOSXInstallation until I decided to do something about it.
> 
It was not a priority. But as we were changing the page title anyway it's 
nicer to have a more human readable one. I for sure am more comfortable with 
reading
"MacOS Installation" than "MacOSInstallation".

Wiki will accept both,  but it won't use the former unchanged in url's as 
spaces are known to be tricky. So wiki will always replace spaces with 
underscores when generating a url. That's what Frank was pointing out.

Regards,

Geert


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Re: [GNC-dev] Wiki page removal

2018-12-03 Thread Geert Janssens
Op maandag 3 december 2018 18:18:03 CET schreef D via gnucash-devel:
> It would seem that you all have the mistaken belief that I have powers that
> have not been granted to me --specifically, I do not have any option to
> move a wiki page, thus I cannot 'preserve the talk pages' in any way,
> shape, or form.

Well, I wasn't sure of this, hence my suggestion. But as you don't have these 
rights, you can ask someone with rights to move or rename the page for you. It 
will be even less work for you :)

> 
> BTW, I'm not sure why it's suddenly a priority to change MacOSInstallation
> to MacOS_Installation. After all, everyone was plenty happy to stay with
> the outmoded MacOSXInstallation until I decided to do something about it.
> 
It was not a priority. But as we were changing the page title anyway it's 
nicer to have a more human readable one. I for sure am more comfortable with 
reading
"MacOS Installation" than "MacOSInstallation".

Wiki will accept both,  but it won't use the former unchanged in url's as 
spaces are known to be tricky. So wiki will always replace spaces with 
underscores when generating a url. That's what Frank was pointing out.

Regards,

Geert


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Re: [GNC-dev] Wiki page removal

2018-12-03 Thread D via gnucash-devel
It would seem that you all have the mistaken belief that I have powers that 
have not been granted to me --specifically, I do not have any option to move a 
wiki page, thus I cannot 'preserve the talk pages' in any way, shape, or form.

BTW, I'm not sure why it's suddenly a priority to change MacOSInstallation to 
MacOS_Installation. After all, everyone was plenty happy to stay with the 
outmoded MacOSXInstallation until I decided to do something about it.

David

On December 3, 2018, at 10:34 PM, "Frank H. Ellenberger" 
 wrote:

While moving a page
* by default a redirect will be created and
* the talk page will move, too.

BTW, I have redone it and named it "MacOS Installation" which is better
readable. While Wiki links know to handle blanks and other nonASCII
chars, in other references you have to map them:
Space to underline, ...

~Frank

Am 03.12.18 um 14:41 schrieb Derek Atkins:
> I think the better option is to edit the page and leave it as a forward
> reference to the new page.  That way it wont brak existing links.
> 
> -derek
> 
> On Mon, December 3, 2018 7:26 am, Geert Janssens wrote:
>> I think the manual method is indeed available to you. I don't know if the
>> option to move a page is visible for you under the "More" menu. That's
>> both a
>> shorthand way of doing it which deals a bit better with page history and
>> related talk pages.
>>
>> Geert
>>
>> Op maandag 3 december 2018 13:06:36 CET schreef David T.:
>>> Ah. Ok. I guess I could do that next time!
>>>
>>>   On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 17:34, Geert
>>> Janssens
>> wrote:   Op maandag 3 december 2018 12:32:56 CET schreef David T. via
>> gnucash-
>> devel:
 Hello,
 I am requesting that someone with delete rights on the wiki remove
 wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/MacOSXInstallation
 Note the "X" in the url; I have duplicated the content into
 wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/MacOSInstallation
 and changed all referring pages to this.  This is to match Apple's
 nomenclature.  David

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>>> David,
>>>
>>> Thanks for cleaning up. I have made the original page redirect to the
>>> renamed page instead to avoid invalid links from outside of the wiki to
>>> this page.
>>>
>>> Geert
>>
>>
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Re: [GNC-dev] Wiki page removal

2018-12-03 Thread Frank H. Ellenberger
While moving a page
* by default a redirect will be created and
* the talk page will move, too.

BTW, I have redone it and named it "MacOS Installation" which is better
readable. While Wiki links know to handle blanks and other nonASCII
chars, in other references you have to map them:
Space to underline, ...

~Frank

Am 03.12.18 um 14:41 schrieb Derek Atkins:
> I think the better option is to edit the page and leave it as a forward
> reference to the new page.  That way it wont brak existing links.
> 
> -derek
> 
> On Mon, December 3, 2018 7:26 am, Geert Janssens wrote:
>> I think the manual method is indeed available to you. I don't know if the
>> option to move a page is visible for you under the "More" menu. That's
>> both a
>> shorthand way of doing it which deals a bit better with page history and
>> related talk pages.
>>
>> Geert
>>
>> Op maandag 3 december 2018 13:06:36 CET schreef David T.:
>>> Ah. Ok. I guess I could do that next time!
>>>
>>>   On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 17:34, Geert
>>> Janssens
>> wrote:   Op maandag 3 december 2018 12:32:56 CET schreef David T. via
>> gnucash-
>> devel:
 Hello,
 I am requesting that someone with delete rights on the wiki remove
 wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/MacOSXInstallation
 Note the "X" in the url; I have duplicated the content into
 wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/MacOSInstallation
 and changed all referring pages to this.  This is to match Apple's
 nomenclature.  David

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>>> David,
>>>
>>> Thanks for cleaning up. I have made the original page redirect to the
>>> renamed page instead to avoid invalid links from outside of the wiki to
>>> this page.
>>>
>>> Geert
>>
>>
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Re: [GNC-dev] Wiki page removal

2018-12-03 Thread Geert Janssens
Op maandag 3 december 2018 14:41:48 CET schreef Derek Atkins:
> I think the better option is to edit the page and leave it as a forward
> reference to the new page.  That way it wont brak existing links.
> 
> -derek

That's what both options I mentioned do.

Geert


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Re: [GNC-dev] Wiki page removal

2018-12-03 Thread Derek Atkins
I think the better option is to edit the page and leave it as a forward
reference to the new page.  That way it wont brak existing links.

-derek

On Mon, December 3, 2018 7:26 am, Geert Janssens wrote:
> I think the manual method is indeed available to you. I don't know if the
> option to move a page is visible for you under the "More" menu. That's
> both a
> shorthand way of doing it which deals a bit better with page history and
> related talk pages.
>
> Geert
>
> Op maandag 3 december 2018 13:06:36 CET schreef David T.:
>> Ah. Ok. I guess I could do that next time!
>>
>>   On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 17:34, Geert
>> Janssens
> wrote:   Op maandag 3 december 2018 12:32:56 CET schreef David T. via
> gnucash-
> devel:
>> > Hello,
>> > I am requesting that someone with delete rights on the wiki remove
>> > wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/MacOSXInstallation
>> > Note the "X" in the url; I have duplicated the content into
>> > wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/MacOSInstallation
>> > and changed all referring pages to this.  This is to match Apple's
>> > nomenclature.  David
>> >
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>>
>> David,
>>
>> Thanks for cleaning up. I have made the original page redirect to the
>> renamed page instead to avoid invalid links from outside of the wiki to
>> this page.
>>
>> Geert
>
>
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Re: [GNC-dev] Wiki page removal

2018-12-03 Thread Geert Janssens
I think the manual method is indeed available to you. I don't know if the 
option to move a page is visible for you under the "More" menu. That's both a 
shorthand way of doing it which deals a bit better with page history and 
related talk pages.

Geert

Op maandag 3 december 2018 13:06:36 CET schreef David T.:
> Ah. Ok. I guess I could do that next time!
> 
>   On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 17:34, Geert Janssens 
wrote:   Op maandag 3 december 2018 12:32:56 CET schreef David T. via gnucash-
devel:
> > Hello,
> > I am requesting that someone with delete rights on the wiki remove
> > wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/MacOSXInstallation
> > Note the "X" in the url; I have duplicated the content into
> > wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/MacOSInstallation
> > and changed all referring pages to this.  This is to match Apple's
> > nomenclature.  David
> > 
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> David,
> 
> Thanks for cleaning up. I have made the original page redirect to the
> renamed page instead to avoid invalid links from outside of the wiki to
> this page.
> 
> Geert




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Re: [GNC-dev] Wiki page removal

2018-12-03 Thread Geert Janssens
Op maandag 3 december 2018 12:32:56 CET schreef David T. via gnucash-devel:
> Hello,
> I am requesting that someone with delete rights on the wiki remove
> wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/MacOSXInstallation
> Note the "X" in the url; I have duplicated the content into
> wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/MacOSInstallation
> and changed all referring pages to this.  This is to match Apple's
> nomenclature.  David
> 
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David,

Thanks for cleaning up. I have made the original page redirect to the renamed 
page instead to avoid invalid links from outside of the wiki to this page.

Geert



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Re: [GNC-dev] Wiki page removal

2018-12-03 Thread David T. via gnucash-devel
Ah. Ok. I guess I could do that next time!

 
 
  On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 17:34, Geert Janssens 
wrote:   Op maandag 3 december 2018 12:32:56 CET schreef David T. via 
gnucash-devel:
> Hello,
> I am requesting that someone with delete rights on the wiki remove
> wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/MacOSXInstallation
> Note the "X" in the url; I have duplicated the content into
> wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/MacOSInstallation
> and changed all referring pages to this.  This is to match Apple's
> nomenclature.  David
> 
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David,

Thanks for cleaning up. I have made the original page redirect to the renamed 
page instead to avoid invalid links from outside of the wiki to this page.

Geert



  
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[GNC-dev] Wiki page removal

2018-12-03 Thread David T. via gnucash-devel
Hello,
I am requesting that someone with delete rights on the wiki remove
wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/MacOSXInstallation
Note the "X" in the url; I have duplicated the content into
wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/MacOSInstallation
and changed all referring pages to this.  This is to match Apple's 
nomenclature. 
David

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