Re: [GNC-dev] owner-report, receivables-aging etc
Hi Adrien You're better off building from current maint. It'll be in Reports/Experimental. Thx for beta testing. On Wed, 6 Nov 2019 at 16:00, Adrien Monteleone < adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote: > Christopher, > > I have some AR cleanup in-progress and your revised owner-report would > come in handy matching up payments to invoices. I’ll be happy to report > back any testing issues I encounter while using it. > > I can’t seem to find your link in the list threads, can you provide a > current link? (I have your github bookmarked but can’t seem to find where > this particular report is buried) > > Can I simply place it in my reports folder and load it or do I need to > build maint first? Thanks. > > Regards, > Adrien > > > On Jul 19, 2019 w29d200, at 3:56 AM, Christopher Lam < > christopher@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Wish to canvas opinion on what is considered best practice for the > > following real-data simulations, for rebuilding owner-report and > > aging-report. This illustrates current buggy behaviour. > > > > * I have a $100 customer invoice, posted- and due-dates 6 weeks ago. > > * I have a $50 credit-note to same customer, posted and due-dates are 2 > > weeks ago. > > > > Intuitively the customer owes $50. But I haven't formally yet linked the > > credit-note to the invoice though. The $100 invoice is still unpaid > > > > Attachments show: > > * the Customer Report counts the $100 and $50 separately into separate > > owing date ranges. > > * the Receivables Aging report shows the CN $50 was automatically used to > > fund the $100 invoice, via FIFO (paying oldest invoice first). > > > > Which behaviour should we standardise on? > > > > > > [image: image.png] > > > > [image: image.png] > > ___ > > gnucash-devel mailing list > > gnucash-devel@gnucash.org > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel > > > ___ > gnucash-devel mailing list > gnucash-devel@gnucash.org > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel > ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
[GNC-dev] owner-report, receivables-aging etc
> On Jul 19, 2019 w29d200, at 3:56 AM, Christopher Lam > wrote: > > Wish to canvas opinion on what is considered best practice for the > following real-data simulations, for rebuilding owner-report and > aging-report. This illustrates current buggy behaviour. > > * I have a $100 customer invoice, posted- and due-dates 6 weeks ago. > * I have a $50 credit-note to same customer, posted and due-dates are 2 > weeks ago. > > Intuitively the customer owes $50. But I haven't formally yet linked the > credit-note to the invoice though. The $100 invoice is still unpaid > > Attachments show: > * the Customer Report counts the $100 and $50 separately into separate > owing date ranges. > * the Receivables Aging report shows the CN $50 was automatically used to > fund the $100 invoice, via FIFO (paying oldest invoice first). > > Which behaviour should we standardise on? I've been using GC for several years and only started using AR this Spring. My preference is to use it as shown by your aging report. So far, my efforts to use a credit to pay a bill has been a dismal failure even when I make a cash payment and try to get both invoice AND credit. I'm currently on 3.6 on Win 10. Bruce Preach the Gospel wherever you go. If necessary, use words. ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: [GNC-dev] owner-report, receivables-aging etc
Christopher, I have some AR cleanup in-progress and your revised owner-report would come in handy matching up payments to invoices. I’ll be happy to report back any testing issues I encounter while using it. I can’t seem to find your link in the list threads, can you provide a current link? (I have your github bookmarked but can’t seem to find where this particular report is buried) Can I simply place it in my reports folder and load it or do I need to build maint first? Thanks. Regards, Adrien > On Jul 19, 2019 w29d200, at 3:56 AM, Christopher Lam > wrote: > > Wish to canvas opinion on what is considered best practice for the > following real-data simulations, for rebuilding owner-report and > aging-report. This illustrates current buggy behaviour. > > * I have a $100 customer invoice, posted- and due-dates 6 weeks ago. > * I have a $50 credit-note to same customer, posted and due-dates are 2 > weeks ago. > > Intuitively the customer owes $50. But I haven't formally yet linked the > credit-note to the invoice though. The $100 invoice is still unpaid > > Attachments show: > * the Customer Report counts the $100 and $50 separately into separate > owing date ranges. > * the Receivables Aging report shows the CN $50 was automatically used to > fund the $100 invoice, via FIFO (paying oldest invoice first). > > Which behaviour should we standardise on? > > > [image: image.png] > > [image: image.png] > ___ > gnucash-devel mailing list > gnucash-devel@gnucash.org > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: [GNC-dev] owner-report, receivables-aging etc
On 19/07/2019 09:56, Christopher Lam wrote: Wish to canvas opinion on what is considered best practice for the following real-data simulations, for rebuilding owner-report and aging-report. This illustrates current buggy behaviour. * I have a $100 customer invoice, posted- and due-dates 6 weeks ago. * I have a $50 credit-note to same customer, posted and due-dates are 2 weeks ago. Intuitively the customer owes $50. But I haven't formally yet linked the credit-note to the invoice though. The $100 invoice is still unpaid Attachments show: * the Customer Report counts the $100 and $50 separately into separate owing date ranges. * the Receivables Aging report shows the CN $50 was automatically used to fund the $100 invoice, via FIFO (paying oldest invoice first). Which behaviour should we standardise on? accounting practice varies about this. -- Wm ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: [GNC-dev] owner-report, receivables-aging etc
> On Jul 23, 2019, at 10:11 AM, Derek Atkins wrote: > > > >> In any case I'd think both owner-report and aging must be consistent. > > MAYBE.. But not necessarily. The aging report is more for the > business, whereas the customer report is designed to actually be sent to > the customer. So they might not need to be 100% consistent. And > indeed, I would suggest the customer report should be sure to contain > ALL transactions, whereas aging can ignore certain types. I would certainly agree here. If credits are simply ‘left off’ this report, the very first question a customer will have will be about their credit notes. This report is the closest equivalent to a Statement of Account. It should contain everything. I can see it could get messy with the aging table, so that should likely be just positive balances outstanding. Or, include the credit notes here as well, but age them just like an invoice, don’t ‘apply’ them to an invoice. A third possible option —does it make sense to show a separate aging table for credit notes if any? Regards, Adrien ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: [GNC-dev] owner-report, receivables-aging etc
Christopher Lam writes: > In this case, I think there is a strong argument that credit-notes must be > ignored in the generation of aging-table? And this would apply for customer/ > job/vendor/employee aging tables, therefore only applying payment using > credit-note will reduce the balances? Advantage is there will be no negative > numbers in aging table. I would say "unattached" credit notes should be ignored. If it's attached as a payment then obviously it should be included. > In any case I'd think both owner-report and aging must be consistent. MAYBE.. But not necessarily. The aging report is more for the business, whereas the customer report is designed to actually be sent to the customer. So they might not need to be 100% consistent. And indeed, I would suggest the customer report should be sure to contain ALL transactions, whereas aging can ignore certain types. -derek -- Derek Atkins 617-623-3745 de...@ihtfp.com www.ihtfp.com Computer and Internet Security Consultant ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: [GNC-dev] owner-report, receivables-aging etc
In this case, I think there is a strong argument that credit-notes must be ignored in the generation of aging-table? And this would apply for customer/job/vendor/employee aging tables, therefore only applying payment using credit-note will reduce the balances? Advantage is there will be no negative numbers in aging table. In any case I'd think both owner-report and aging must be consistent. On Mon, 22 Jul 2019 at 14:11, Derek Atkins wrote: > Christopher Lam writes: > > > Yes, I agree. On that count aging.scm wins. > > What about Credit-Notes; should they automatically be applied to > invoices in > > the aging-table? > > Sneak preview next gen aging report: > > > https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/1975870/61539513-36ba3780-aa2b-11e9-89d8-c1c35d945a04.png > > That's a good question, but I don't have a good answer. Arguably if the > credit note isn't applied then the report might want to separate them > out in a way to let them know that there is an unapplied credit. I'm > not sure GnuCash should assume which invoice to apply it to. > > -derek > -- >Derek Atkins 617-623-3745 >de...@ihtfp.com www.ihtfp.com >Computer and Internet Security Consultant > ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: [GNC-dev] owner-report, receivables-aging etc
Christopher Lam writes: > Yes, I agree. On that count aging.scm wins. > What about Credit-Notes; should they automatically be applied to invoices in > the aging-table? > Sneak preview next gen aging report: > https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/1975870/61539513-36ba3780-aa2b-11e9-89d8-c1c35d945a04.png That's a good question, but I don't have a good answer. Arguably if the credit note isn't applied then the report might want to separate them out in a way to let them know that there is an unapplied credit. I'm not sure GnuCash should assume which invoice to apply it to. -derek -- Derek Atkins 617-623-3745 de...@ihtfp.com www.ihtfp.com Computer and Internet Security Consultant ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: [GNC-dev] owner-report, receivables-aging etc
Yes, I agree. On that count aging.scm wins. What about Credit-Notes; should they automatically be applied to invoices in the aging-table? Sneak preview next gen aging report: https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/1975870/61539513-36ba3780-aa2b-11e9-89d8-c1c35d945a04.png On Fri, 19 Jul 2019 at 13:15, Derek Atkins wrote: > Christopher Lam writes: > > > A corollary query is how to report on overpayments in the aging-table > > > > * the Customer Report counts overpayments as negative amounts > > * the Receivables Aging report shows $0 owed by customer > > IMHO, this behavior is correct. If the Customer has overpaid then you > have $0 Receivables from that customer. > > -derek > -- >Derek Atkins 617-623-3745 >de...@ihtfp.com www.ihtfp.com >Computer and Internet Security Consultant > ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: [GNC-dev] owner-report, receivables-aging etc
Christopher Lam writes: > A corollary query is how to report on overpayments in the aging-table > > * the Customer Report counts overpayments as negative amounts > * the Receivables Aging report shows $0 owed by customer IMHO, this behavior is correct. If the Customer has overpaid then you have $0 Receivables from that customer. -derek -- Derek Atkins 617-623-3745 de...@ihtfp.com www.ihtfp.com Computer and Internet Security Consultant ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
[GNC-dev] owner-report, receivables-aging etc
Wish to canvas opinion on what is considered best practice for the following real-data simulations, for rebuilding owner-report and aging-report. This illustrates current buggy behaviour. * I have a $100 customer invoice, posted- and due-dates 6 weeks ago. * I have a $50 credit-note to same customer, posted and due-dates are 2 weeks ago. Intuitively the customer owes $50. But I haven't formally yet linked the credit-note to the invoice though. The $100 invoice is still unpaid Attachments show: * the Customer Report counts the $100 and $50 separately into separate owing date ranges. * the Receivables Aging report shows the CN $50 was automatically used to fund the $100 invoice, via FIFO (paying oldest invoice first). Which behaviour should we standardise on? [image: image.png] [image: image.png] ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
