Re: Close books trashes Income Statement and Net Income on Balance Sheet

2010-02-10 Thread Derek Atkins
JT Morée more...@yahoo.com writes: --- On Mon, 2/8/10, Derek Atkins warl...@mit.edu wrote: If you perform Cash based accounting then you need to apply your Income and Expense when the payment happens, not when you book the invoice/bill.  So in this case the invoice/bill txn does NOT apply

Re: Close books trashes Income Statement and Net Income on Balance Sheet

2010-02-09 Thread JT Morée
--- On Mon, 2/8/10, Derek Atkins warl...@mit.edu wrote: If you perform Cash based accounting then you need to apply your Income and Expense when the payment happens, not when you book the invoice/bill.  So in this case the invoice/bill txn does NOT apply to the period in which it is dated.

Re: Close books trashes Income Statement and Net Income on Balance Sheet

2010-02-08 Thread Derek Atkins
JT Morée more...@yahoo.com writes: calendar allowed for the special date year end. In other words, we could insert a date in between two (real) calendar dates that fell after the first but before the second. Think of it as a December 32 or a Jan 0 Not an easy problem for GnuCash (no way of

Re: Close books trashes Income Statement and Net Income on Balance Sheet

2010-02-08 Thread z33b0b
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 8:11 AM, Derek Atkins warl...@mit.edu wrote: JT Morée more...@yahoo.com writes: I realize my post was long but in short I believe the best solution is to have the reports be smarter. It's not difficult (almost done in fact) and it avoids the fiscal year problem you

Re: Close books trashes Income Statement and Net Income on Balance Sheet

2010-02-08 Thread Derek Atkins
z33...@gmail.com writes: On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 8:11 AM, Derek Atkins warl...@mit.edu wrote: JT Morée more...@yahoo.com writes: I realize my post was long but in short I believe the best solution is to have the reports be smarter.  It's not difficult (almost done in fact)

Re: Close books trashes Income Statement and Net Income on Balance Sheet

2010-02-08 Thread Mike or Penny Novack
You can disagree all you want, but you're still wrong. ;) The GAAP method to close the books is to create a fake date (or 'invalid' date) that sits between the periods. That's what most accountants and large-scale accounting programs do. You might dislike it, but it's the way the world works.

Re: Close books trashes Income Statement and Net Income on Balance Sheet

2010-02-07 Thread Mark Haanen
Op zaterdag 06-02-2010 om 19:33 uur [tijdzone -0800], schreef JT Morée: I realize the close books issue has been dealt with for years but I'm coming up empty on searching for this particular aspect. Please tell me if there is another way to fix this issue that I'm not seeing. As I

Re: Close books trashes Income Statement and Net Income on Balance Sheet

2010-02-07 Thread Mike or Penny Novack
JT Morée wrote: I realize the close books issue has been dealt with for years but I'm coming up empty on searching for this particular aspect. Please tell me if there is another way to fix this issue that I'm not seeing. As I have mentioned before (more than once) the way around this is

Re: Close books trashes Income Statement and Net Income on Balance Sheet

2010-02-07 Thread JT Morée
calendar allowed for the special date year end. In other words, we could insert a date in between two (real) calendar dates that fell after the first but before the second. Think of it as a December 32 or a Jan 0 Not an easy problem for GnuCash (no way of knowing what the user's fiscal

Re: Close books trashes Income Statement and Net Income on Balance Sheet

2010-02-07 Thread Jeff Kletsky
This one has tripped me up as well. In the business world, there often is either January 1st which is a non-business day to put the transactions on. The fake day is also another option. There are implications past just the ones indicated in an earlier post -- most accounts are impacted, as

Close books trashes Income Statement and Net Income on Balance Sheet

2010-02-06 Thread JT Morée
I realize the close books issue has been dealt with for years but I'm coming up empty on searching for this particular aspect.  Please tell me if there is another way to fix this issue that I'm not seeing. As I understand and experience the 'close books' feature:  Close books makes offsetting