Re: [GNC] Reconciliation Changes

2021-10-14 Thread David Carlson
No, Chris. In release 3.8 and earlier when the user first clicks on the Reconcile icon and the pop-up appears to set the date, balance, etc., then clicks OK, the Reconcile window opens with every transaction that is dated before the reconciliation date and marked "c" in the Reconcile box is

Re: [GNC] Reconciliation Changes

2021-10-14 Thread Lisa Reynoso
Derek gets what I'm doing. I do use GNU Cash sub accounts as an envelope budgeting system (I really latched onto it after we lost $500 worth of money in envelopes to a thief--back when $500 was my monthly expenses budget!!!). And yes, that "bug" is exactly what I want back. When I'm reconciling,

Re: [GNC] Reconciliation Changes

2021-10-14 Thread Chris Good
Hi David (Carlson), Not sure what you mean by “automatic marking that happens when the reconciliation process is initiated”? Perhaps you mean the marking of transactions as cleared when they are imported? Regards, Chris Good From: David Carlson Sent: Friday, 15 October 2021 3:00

Re: [GNC] My begining balance is wrong

2021-10-14 Thread D. via gnucash-user
Well, I'm glad you've seen the docs on this! Original Message From: Billie-Internet Sent: Thu Oct 14 16:42:43 EDT 2021 To: "D." Cc: Derek Atkins , Gnucash Users Subject: Re: [GNC] My begining balance is wrong David, These problems started before the save as issue. Before

Re: [GNC] Reconciliation Changes

2021-10-14 Thread Chris Good
Hi David T, Derek & Lisa, David, Thanks for pointing out that Lisa is doing "envelope budgeting". I have seen various references to that in this email list over the years but as I don't do any budgeting, I have not paid much attention to it. I can find no reference to that in the GnuCash

Re: [GNC] [GNC-dev] GnuCash 4.8-2 DMG for macOS 12

2021-10-14 Thread David H
Ta for that John, will install shortly, was working with beta 7 but not since :-) Cheers David H On Fri, 15 Oct 2021 at 7:19 am, John Ralls wrote: > The last two beta releases of macOS 12 Monterey changed the behavior of a > low-level graphics function used by Gtk3 that resulted in

[GNC] GnuCash 4.8-2 DMG for macOS 12

2021-10-14 Thread John Ralls
The last two beta releases of macOS 12 Monterey changed the behavior of a low-level graphics function used by Gtk3 that resulted in application windows not being able to display their content. I've fixed the problem and made a new GnuCash bundle, GnuCash 4.8-2, SHA256

Re: [GNC] Compiling 2.6.19

2021-10-14 Thread john
> On Oct 13, 2021, at 11:43 PM, AC wrote: > > I'm having a bit of trouble compiling 2.6.19 (so that I can begin the > upgrade process for the data) but the dependencies are not being met. > > All the base dependency packages are installed but the versioning seems > to be off or package names

Re: [GNC] My begining balance is wrong

2021-10-14 Thread Billie-Internet
David, These problems started before the save as issue. Before that, all I ever used was the save button on the menu. [image: image.png] I did read the info on file names before asking question so I knew what file I was looking for . I did not know about the wiki on backups. I will read it as

Re: [GNC] My begining balance is wrong

2021-10-14 Thread D. via gnucash-user
Derek,  Billie, I'm going out on a limb here, but I'm going to guess that the various problems (unsaved changes, reversion to different points, lost progress, etc.) have to do with the attempts to back up the data file using Save As. It would be very easy under these circumstances to access

[GNC] A Couple of Budgeting Notes

2021-10-14 Thread David T. via gnucash-user
Hello, In recent days, I've been tinkering around (again) with GnuCash's budget features, and I thought I'd share a couple of things that were not obvious to me from the interface or the documentation with regards to setting budget values. First, it was not clear to me how the Estimate

Re: [GNC] How do you do this - differentiate scheduled transaction versus no scheduled one

2021-10-14 Thread Thomas Forrester
Interesting questions, Kalpesh. Not sure I fully understand your first question, so I'll answer the second first, then tell you how I handle auto-pay situations at the bank that have a corresponding scheduled transaction in GnuCash. So for #2, I let the actual cash account prevail where the date

Re: [GNC] Reconciliation Changes

2021-10-14 Thread David Carlson
I wonder if there is some confusion here between manually marking (or un-marking) account and sub-account transactions as reconciled (or not) vs the automatic marking that happens when the reconciliation process is initiated. The purpose of the pause before committing the reconciliation is to

Re: [GNC] Credit Card Rewards Refund

2021-10-14 Thread Steve Butler
I also record as misc. non-taxed income. Thinking of titling a new income account as "Rebates". On Thu, Oct 14, 2021, 05:34 rsbrux via gnucash-user < gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote: > I have a credit card which, like a few others, accrues a small > percentage (1-2%) of the amounts spent as a

Re: [GNC] Credit Card Rewards Refund

2021-10-14 Thread paul
" will mask the true cost of whatever was purchased" It's all a matter of perspective. If I want 100 widgets at $10, but know I get 2% back on my credit card, I might look at that as a $980 item. The fact that I pay $1,000 now and get refunded $20 later is a cash flow issue. Not that I

Re: [GNC] Credit Card Rewards Refund

2021-10-14 Thread Gyle McCollam
It would depend on how your jurisdiction treats these rebates for tax purposes. If they are not taxable, you can treat them whichever way you like. I treat them as a negative expense, but if they are taxable you would need to record them in an income account. Thank You, Gyle McCollam Gyle

Re: [GNC] How do you do this - differentiate scheduled transaction versus no scheduled one

2021-10-14 Thread Peter West
FWIW, when I receive a bill to be paid at some future date, I put the amount in as a liability against the appropriate expense account. I then schedule the payment for that future date, both at my bank and in the scheduled payments editor. In that case, the entry is from my cash account against

Re: [GNC] How do you do this - differentiate scheduled transaction versus no scheduled one

2021-10-14 Thread Derek Atkins
Hi, On Thu, October 14, 2021 10:19 am, Kalpesh Patel wrote: > A workflow questions for GNC users: > > > > 1 - My habits when it comes to payments for example credit card, mortgage, > other bills, etc. is to scheduled it out in advance from the appropriate > institutions that hold my bank

Re: [GNC] Credit Card Rewards Refund

2021-10-14 Thread Dustin Henning
Because it is not considered taxable income in my jurisdiction, and because I only use the credit card due to the fact that I will get rewards (otherwise I would be a check or cash guy), I record it as a negative miscellaneous expense.  Outside of jurisdictions where this would be considered

[GNC] How do you do this - differentiate scheduled transaction versus no scheduled one

2021-10-14 Thread Kalpesh Patel
A workflow questions for GNC users: 1 - My habits when it comes to payments for example credit card, mortgage, other bills, etc. is to scheduled it out in advance from the appropriate institutions that hold my bank accounts, such as checking, savings, etc. at a future date but within due date.

Re: [GNC] Online price retrieval

2021-10-14 Thread Fred Bone
On 13 October 2021 at 0:24, J Medina said: > Gentlemen/Ladies, > > I want to install Finance::Quote on Windows10 > > Could you please give me a bit more detailed explanation on how to do this > >>> Run Start → GnuCash → Install Online Price Retrieval. > > I understand I need to do this from

Re: [GNC] My begining balance is wrong

2021-10-14 Thread Derek Atkins
Hi, On Thu, October 14, 2021 9:32 am, Billie-Internet wrote: > Good Morning, > I am running > Version: 4.4 > Build ID: 4.4+(2020-12-28) > on windows 10. > [snip] > So today, while reconciling, rather than leave, I jumped back and forth > from the check register that was open in the background to

Re: [GNC] Online price retrieval

2021-10-14 Thread Kalpesh Patel
In the search box (the icon that looks like magnifying glass in the task bar) just type in "Install Online Price Retrieval for GnuCash" and press the "Enter" key to kick off the installation routine. You can follow the same process to upgrade now and then as well. If all goes well, you should get

Re: [GNC] Credit Card Rewards Refund

2021-10-14 Thread Steve Welch via gnucash-user
One further thought: treating rewards as a negative expense will mask the true cost of whatever was purchased. If you stop using your rewards card, suddenly your apparent expenses will go up. Both professionally and personally I generally prefer to not muddy expense accounts with negative

Re: [GNC] Credit Card Rewards Refund

2021-10-14 Thread Gerald
I also treat it as miscellaneous income, and account for it when received, as a welcome windfall. You COULD allocate it against the credit card expenditure, as negative expense, which would be more realistic, but I like seeing a windfall gain once a year and then treat myself accordingly. Note

Re: [GNC] Credit Card Rewards Refund

2021-10-14 Thread Jack Frillman via gnucash-user
I also put it into a miscellaneous income. On 10/14/21 9:07 AM, Steve Welch via gnucash-user wrote: Because the rewards aren’t necessarily attributable to any one expense (or to split them out proportionately would be a whole lot of work), I always book them to miscellaneous income. I also

Re: [GNC] Credit Card Rewards Refund

2021-10-14 Thread Steve Welch via gnucash-user
Because the rewards aren’t necessarily attributable to any one expense (or to split them out proportionately would be a whole lot of work), I always book them to miscellaneous income. I also include that income when I budget. Hope that helps, Steve Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 14, 2021, at

[GNC] Credit Card Rewards Refund

2021-10-14 Thread rsbrux via gnucash-user
I have a credit card which, like a few others, accrues a small percentage (1-2%) of the amounts spent as a rebate.  The rebate isn't subtracted from each charge, but accumulates in the card account as "Reward Points" until I cash them in.  The amount is then credited to the card account as a

Re: [GNC] Reconciliation Changes

2021-10-14 Thread Derek Atkins
Chris, Lisa, Yes, I agree with David here. It is absolutely quite common (and for DECADES has been the suggested way to do "envelope budgeting" in GnuCash) -- to have subaccounts of your Bank (or other Asset) account for your budget items. I realize that I did instigate your change in PR-713,

Re: [GNC] Reconciliation Changes

2021-10-14 Thread D. via gnucash-user
Chris, I believe she's implementing envelope budgeting (https://www.thebalance.com/what-is-envelope-budgeting-1293682) using sub accounts. A fair number of users of Gnucash do this, which has been discussed on the lists over the years. David T. Original Message From:

Re: [GNC] Reconciliation Changes

2021-10-14 Thread Chris Good
Hi Lisa, This change was done under https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=797648 for reasons explained in the bug. The first fix went live in 3.9 which forced all splits in a transaction to the new selected reconciled state when one of them was changed, rather than just toggling the

[GNC] Compiling 2.6.19

2021-10-14 Thread AC
I'm having a bit of trouble compiling 2.6.19 (so that I can begin the upgrade process for the data) but the dependencies are not being met. All the base dependency packages are installed but the versioning seems to be off or package names have changed and don't expose old library names. For