Re: [GNC] Cannot change preferences -- see bug 555187?

2018-08-23 Thread Adrien Monteleone
This page is almost 3 years old: https://wiki.gnome.org/Initiatives/GnomeGoals/GSettingsMigration But it does offer a list of potential apps to check that might still be using gconf. I’m pretty sure Chromium has completed their migration as of early this year. Ubuntu stopped installing it as

Re: [GNC] Cannot change preferences -- see bug 555187?

2018-08-23 Thread Geert Janssens
Op donderdag 23 augustus 2018 16:00:24 CEST schreef Ken Heard: > On 2018-08-18 13:38, Geert Janssens wrote: > > Op zaterdag 18 augustus 2018 16:34:14 CEST schreef Ken Heard: > >> Last evening I was thinking of filing a bug report for my problem. In > >> the process I found a previous bug report

Re: [GNC] Cannot change preferences -- see bug 555187?

2018-08-23 Thread Colin Law
On Thu, 23 Aug 2018 at 15:02, Ken Heard wrote: > > On 2018-08-18 13:38, Geert Janssens wrote: > > ... > > The only thing André added yesterday was a message indicating that the (old) > > GConf tool should be considered dead and burried. Which is fine because > > gnucash has not been using it

Re: [GNC] Cannot change preferences -- see bug 555187?

2018-08-23 Thread Ken Heard
On 2018-08-18 13:38, Geert Janssens wrote: Op zaterdag 18 augustus 2018 16:34:14 CEST schreef Ken Heard: Last evening I was thinking of filing a bug report for my problem. In the process I found a previous bug report 555187 dealing with the same one (1). This bug was originally filed on

Re: [GNC] Cannot change preferences

2018-08-22 Thread John Ralls
Frank, You’ve misunderstood the thread: It’s about a deficiency in the dependencies of the Debian package manager, not anything to do with GnuCash’s build requirements. Regards, John Ralls > On Aug 22, 2018, at 10:13 AM, Frank H. Ellenberger > wrote: > > From

Re: [GNC] Cannot change preferences

2018-08-22 Thread Colin Law
On Wed, 22 Aug 2018 at 16:38, Colin Law wrote: > > On Wed, 22 Aug 2018 at 16:19, Ken Heard wrote: > > > > The version of gnucash I have, 1:2.6.15-1, was installed from the Debian > > Stretch repository. Just now I looked at the entry for this package on > > apt-cache and discovered that dbus-X11

Re: [GNC] Cannot change preferences

2018-08-22 Thread Colin Law
On Wed, 22 Aug 2018 at 18:13, Frank H. Ellenberger wrote: > > From https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/blob/maint/README.dependencies > " at runtime, required > - > a gsettings backend to store the gnucash global preferences in > This backend is platform dependent. > -

Re: [GNC] Cannot change preferences

2018-08-22 Thread Frank H. Ellenberger
>From https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/blob/maint/README.dependencies " at runtime, required - a gsettings backend to store the gnucash global preferences in This backend is platform dependent. - linux:dconf - windows: registry - osx/quarz:plists

Re: [GNC] Cannot change preferences

2018-08-22 Thread Colin Law
On Wed, 22 Aug 2018 at 17:31, Frank H. Ellenberger wrote: > > Hi all, > > AFAIK dbus-X11 is no direct dependency of GnuCash: > GnuCash requires GSettings, > only on Linux that requires dconf > and that again requires the dbus. Well if you take out dbus-X11 then you can't save any settings. I

Re: [GNC] Cannot change preferences

2018-08-22 Thread Frank H. Ellenberger
Hi all, AFAIK dbus-X11 is no direct dependency of GnuCash: GnuCash requires GSettings, only on Linux that requires dconf and that again requires the dbus. Regards Frank Am 22.08.2018 um 17:38 schrieb Colin Law: > On Wed, 22 Aug 2018 at 16:19, Ken Heard wrote: >> >> The version of gnucash I

Re: [GNC] Cannot change preferences

2018-08-22 Thread Colin Law
On Wed, 22 Aug 2018 at 16:19, Ken Heard wrote: > > The version of gnucash I have, 1:2.6.15-1, was installed from the Debian > Stretch repository. Just now I looked at the entry for this package on > apt-cache and discovered that dbus-X11 is recommended for > gnucash-1:2.6.15-1; whereas it has to

Re: [GNC] Cannot change preferences

2018-08-22 Thread Ken Heard
On 2018-08-22 03:43, Colin Law wrote: Can you remind me how you installed gnucash? I expect you have said but this has been a rather long thread. If it was a pre-packaged installer then I think that is a bug in the installer as it should specify dbus-x11 as a dependency. It is not an issue

Re: [GNC] Cannot change preferences

2018-08-22 Thread Colin Law
On Wed, 22 Aug 2018 at 03:04, Ken Heard wrote: > ... > I now have a working gnucash. Excellent. > ... > I still have however a few observations/questions about dconf, etc., > which I want to send to the three of you in due course after I complete > my researches on the subject. Can you remind

Re: [GNC] Cannot change preferences

2018-08-21 Thread Ken Heard
On 2018-08-21 11:47, Colin Law wrote: I suspect that may means that dbus-x11 is not installed. Indeed. On receipt of your email I immediately installed dbus-x11. It added two more directories to my home directory. ./dbus and ./config/dconf. (Is ~./conf now obsolete?) I did not have to

Re: [GNC] Cannot change preferences

2018-08-21 Thread Colin Law
On Tue, 21 Aug 2018 at 16:31, Ken Heard wrote: > .. > Here is the full content of .xsession-errors after running dconf-editor > in a terminal and finding the terminal the messages quoted below. > > Xsession: X session started for ken at Tue Aug 21 10:32:09 EDT 2018 > localuser:ken being added to

Re: [GNC] Cannot change preferences

2018-08-21 Thread Ken Heard
On 2018-08-21 04:24, Colin Law wrote: On Mon, 20 Aug 2018 at 23:31, Ken Heard wrote: Just now I ran command "dconf update" which returned the following: --- error: Error opening directory '/etc/dconf/db': No such file or directory It seems there is something basically wrong

Re: [GNC] Cannot change preferences

2018-08-21 Thread Colin Law
On Mon, 20 Aug 2018 at 23:31, Ken Heard wrote: > > Just now I ran command "dconf update" which returned the following: > --- > error: Error opening directory '/etc/dconf/db': No such file or > directory It seems there is something basically wrong with your system, the

Re: [GNC] Cannot change preferences

2018-08-21 Thread Colin Law
On Mon, 20 Aug 2018 at 23:20, Ken Heard wrote: > ... > > ps -aux|grep dconf > > show? I suspect it will show that dconf-service is not running. > > It returns the line > > "ken 5074 0.0 0.0 14004 964 pts/2S+ 17:45 0:00 grep dconf" So dconf-service is not running. > "sudo cat

Re: [GNC] Cannot change preferences

2018-08-20 Thread Ken Heard
Just now I ran command "dconf update" which returned the following: --- error: Error opening directory '/etc/dconf/db': No such file or directory Usage: dconf update Update the system dconf databases --- It this message relevant to my dconf problem?

Re: [GNC] Cannot change preferences

2018-08-20 Thread Ken Heard
On 2018-08-20 12:44, Colin Law wrote: On Mon, 20 Aug 2018 at 16:19, Ken Heard wrote: I have discovered that I do not have a file ~/.config/dconf. Perhaps the absence of such a fine has prevented my from changing any of my gnucash preferences. So I suppose my next step is somehow to create

Re: [GNC] Cannot change preferences

2018-08-20 Thread Colin Law
On Mon, 20 Aug 2018 at 16:19, Ken Heard wrote: > > I have discovered that I do not have a file ~/.config/dconf. Perhaps the > absence of such a fine has prevented my from changing any of my gnucash > preferences. So I suppose my next step is somehow to create one, yes? > > Well since the

Re: [GNC] Cannot change preferences

2018-08-20 Thread Ken Heard
On 2018-08-18 10:42, Colin Law wrote: On Sat, 18 Aug 2018 at 15:19, Adrien Monteleone < adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote: I think Ken mentioned GnuCash 2.6.15 in Debian Stretch in the OP. I missed that. Thanks. Ken, dconf not working can be caused by corrupted dconf config files.

Re: [GNC] Cannot change preferences

2018-08-18 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Ken, You might also want to investigate this page, particularly the section on locks. I doubt you’ll find one for GnuCash, but somehow that system might have an overall lock on it. https://developer.gnome.org/dconf/unstable/dconf-overview.html Regards, Adrien > On Aug 18, 2018, at 9:42 AM,

Re: [GNC] Cannot change preferences -- see bug 555187?

2018-08-18 Thread Geert Janssens
Op zaterdag 18 augustus 2018 16:34:14 CEST schreef Ken Heard: > Last evening I was thinking of filing a bug report for my problem. In > the process I found a previous bug report 555187 dealing with the same > one (1). This bug was originally filed on 2008-10-16, but the last > comment on it by

Re: [GNC] Cannot change preferences

2018-08-18 Thread Ken Heard
On 2018-08-18 09:57, Colin Law wrote: On Sat, 18 Aug 2018 at 14:52, Geert Janssens wrote: Op zaterdag 18 augustus 2018 15:47:06 CEST schreef Ken Heard: On 2018-08-18 02:07, Colin Law wrote: On Fri, 17 Aug 2018, 22:59 Ken Heard, wrote: On 2018-08-17 17:26, Colin Law wrote: The apply

Re: [GNC] Cannot change preferences

2018-08-18 Thread Colin Law
On Sat, 18 Aug 2018 at 15:19, Adrien Monteleone < adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote: > I think Ken mentioned GnuCash 2.6.15 in Debian Stretch in the OP. > I missed that. Thanks. Ken, dconf not working can be caused by corrupted dconf config files. This can happen if there is power fail

Re: [GNC] Cannot change preferences -- see bug 555187?

2018-08-18 Thread Ken Heard
On 2018-08-17 03:27, Geert Janssens wrote: Actually as of gnucash 2.6 the preferences are managed via GSettings. On linux this means the settings are stored in dconf by default. We had a few cases early on where gnucash was installed on systems that didn't have dconf installed. In that case

Re: [GNC] Cannot change preferences

2018-08-18 Thread Adrien Monteleone
I think Ken mentioned GnuCash 2.6.15 in Debian Stretch in the OP. Regards, Adrien > On Aug 18, 2018, at 8:57 AM, Colin Law wrote: > > On Sat, 18 Aug 2018 at 14:52, Geert Janssens > wrote: > >> Op zaterdag 18 augustus 2018 15:47:06 CEST schreef Ken Heard: >>> On 2018-08-18 02:07, Colin Law

Re: [GNC] Cannot change preferences

2018-08-18 Thread Colin Law
On Sat, 18 Aug 2018 at 14:52, Geert Janssens wrote: > Op zaterdag 18 augustus 2018 15:47:06 CEST schreef Ken Heard: > > On 2018-08-18 02:07, Colin Law wrote: > > > On Fri, 17 Aug 2018, 22:59 Ken Heard, wrote: > > >> On 2018-08-17 17:26, Colin Law wrote: > > >>> The apply button doesn't really

Re: [GNC] Cannot change preferences

2018-08-18 Thread Geert Janssens
Op zaterdag 18 augustus 2018 15:47:06 CEST schreef Ken Heard: > On 2018-08-18 02:07, Colin Law wrote: > > On Fri, 17 Aug 2018, 22:59 Ken Heard, wrote: > >> On 2018-08-17 17:26, Colin Law wrote: > >>> The apply button doesn't really popup (for me on Ubuntu 18.040) it just > >>> appears in the

Re: [GNC] Cannot change preferences

2018-08-18 Thread Ken Heard
On 2018-08-18 02:16, Geert Janssens wrote: Op vrijdag 17 augustus 2018 16:52:32 CEST schreef Ken Heard: I would expect that the default preferences and the changed preferences would be in the same file, not in a different file. So the defaults must be somewhere where gnucash can find them.

Re: [GNC] Cannot change preferences

2018-08-18 Thread Ken Heard
On 2018-08-18 02:17, Geert Janssens wrote: Op vrijdag 17 augustus 2018 23:59:28 CEST schreef Ken Heard: On 2018-08-17 17:26, Colin Law wrote: The apply button doesn't really popup (for me on Ubuntu 18.040) it just appears in the bottom bar of the window. Colin I don't even see it there.

Re: [GNC] Cannot change preferences

2018-08-18 Thread Ken Heard
On 2018-08-18 02:07, Colin Law wrote: On Fri, 17 Aug 2018, 22:59 Ken Heard, wrote: On 2018-08-17 17:26, Colin Law wrote: The apply button doesn't really popup (for me on Ubuntu 18.040) it just appears in the bottom bar of the window. Colin I don't even see it there. The bottom bar has

Re: [GNC] Cannot change preferences

2018-08-18 Thread Geert Janssens
Op vrijdag 17 augustus 2018 23:59:28 CEST schreef Ken Heard: > On 2018-08-17 17:26, Colin Law wrote: > > The apply button doesn't really popup (for me on Ubuntu 18.040) it just > > appears in the bottom bar of the window. > > > > Colin > > I don't even see it there. The bottom bar has this text

Re: [GNC] Cannot change preferences

2018-08-18 Thread Geert Janssens
Op vrijdag 17 augustus 2018 16:52:32 CEST schreef Ken Heard: > I would expect that the default preferences and the changed preferences > would be in the same file, not in a different file. So the defaults > must be somewhere where gnucash can find them. Where would that > 'somewhere' be, and

Re: [GNC] Cannot change preferences

2018-08-18 Thread Colin Law
On Fri, 17 Aug 2018, 22:59 Ken Heard, wrote: > On 2018-08-17 17:26, Colin Law wrote: > > > > The apply button doesn't really popup (for me on Ubuntu 18.040) it just > > appears in the bottom bar of the window. > > > > Colin > > I don't even see it there. The bottom bar has this text "The change

Re: [GNC] Cannot change preferences

2018-08-17 Thread Ken Heard
On 2018-08-17 17:26, Colin Law wrote: The apply button doesn't really popup (for me on Ubuntu 18.040) it just appears in the bottom bar of the window. Colin I don't even see it there. The bottom bar has this text "The change will be applied on such request or if you quit this view."

Re: [GNC] Cannot change preferences

2018-08-17 Thread Colin Law
On Fri, 17 Aug 2018 at 19:48, Ken Heard wrote: > On 2018-08-17 13:18, Geert Janssens wrote: > > > Thanks for the feedback. My request to try with dconf-editor was not > meant as > > a workaround, but rather to determine if values can be changed at all. > > > >>From your explanation I still can't

Re: [GNC] Cannot change preferences

2018-08-17 Thread Ken Heard
On 2018-08-17 13:18, Geert Janssens wrote: Thanks for the feedback. My request to try with dconf-editor was not meant as a workaround, but rather to determine if values can be changed at all. From your explanation I still can't infer this exactly, but I readily admit my instructions were

Re: [GNC] Cannot change preferences

2018-08-17 Thread Geert Janssens
Op vrijdag 17 augustus 2018 18:41:13 CEST schreef Ken Heard: > On 2018-08-17 11:28, Geert Janssens wrote: > > > > > Please ignore ~/.gnucash for now. It's not related to the preferences you > > are trying to tweak. > > ? > > > Did you play with dconf-editor ? And what where the results

Re: [GNC] Cannot change preferences

2018-08-17 Thread Ken Heard
On 2018-08-17 11:28, Geert Janssens wrote: Please ignore ~/.gnucash for now. It's not related to the preferences you are trying to tweak. ? Did you play with dconf-editor ? And what where the results ? After some research I opened dconf-editor and found

Re: [GNC] Cannot change preferences

2018-08-17 Thread Geert Janssens
Op vrijdag 17 augustus 2018 16:52:32 CEST schreef Ken Heard: > On 2018-08-17 03:27, Geert Janssens wrote: > > Actually as of gnucash 2.6 the preferences are managed via GSettings. On > > linux this means the settings are stored in dconf by default. We had a > > few cases early on where gnucash was

Re: [GNC] Cannot change preferences

2018-08-17 Thread Ken Heard
On 2018-08-17 03:27, Geert Janssens wrote: Actually as of gnucash 2.6 the preferences are managed via GSettings. On linux this means the settings are stored in dconf by default. We had a few cases early on where gnucash was installed on systems that didn't have dconf installed. In that case

Re: [GNC] Cannot change preferences

2018-08-17 Thread Geert Janssens
Actually as of gnucash 2.6 the preferences are managed via GSettings. On linux this means the settings are stored in dconf by default. We had a few cases early on where gnucash was installed on systems that didn't have dconf installed. In that case GSettings will only store settings in-memory

Re: [GNC] Cannot change preferences

2018-08-16 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Ken, always use reply-all or reply-to-list so that others can participate in the conversation and offer assistance. I can’t get to the specifics at the moment for the preference permissions issue, but maybe someone else can in the interim. Your preferences I think should be stored in

Re: [GNC] Cannot change preferences

2018-07-26 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Ken, Sorry, I saw this when you originally posted it (twice) but wasn’t able to reply at the time and I see you haven’t heard from anyone yet. Although seemingly unhelpful, the error message is telling you how to fix the problem. Apparently, after changing the separator to a backslash “\”

[GNC] Cannot change preferences

2018-07-11 Thread Ken Heard
I have been using GnuCash since 2009. Twice every year I need to transfer my account file from one desktop to another. I never had any trouble opening GnuCash after each such transfer until now. Early on in my use of GnuCash I changed the accounts separator from the colon (:) to the back

[GNC] Cannot change preferences

2018-07-10 Thread Ken Heard
I have been using GnuCash since 2009. Twice every year I need to transfer my account file from one desktop to another. I never had any trouble opening GnuCash after each such transfer until now. Early on in my use of GnuCash I changed the accounts separator from the colon (:) to the back