Re: [GNC] Club membership fees and charitable contributions - Business Features or Assets?

2019-08-04 Thread Michael Hendry
> On 3 Aug 2019, at 01:28, David Cousens wrote: > > Michael > > 4 sets of books is possibly overkill and likely confusing. At worst you > would need two, one for the club operations and one for charity. I agree, and have set up the two sets you describe. I have created an "Income:Intended

Re: [GNC] Club membership fees and charitable contributions - Business Features or Assets?

2019-08-03 Thread Tom Reynolds
Perhaps you could look at this https://www.accountingtools.com/articles/accounting-for-pledges.html regards DrTom On 8/2/2019 12:21 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote: Yes, I understand they are different. The Business Features *could* still be used, just not considered in a formal way. But

Re: [GNC] Club membership fees and charitable contributions - Business Features or Assets?

2019-08-02 Thread David Cousens
Michael 4 sets of books is possibly overkill and likely confusing. At worst you would need two, one for the club operations and one for charity. Depending on the legislation of charities/non-profits in your jurisdiction if the charity is an operation of the club you may be able to get away with

Re: [GNC] Club membership fees and charitable contributions - Business Features or Assets?

2019-08-02 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Thanks for the clarification and explanation. Posts like this are an excellent example of how useful this list is. Regards, Adrien > On Aug 2, 2019, at 2:18 PM, Mike or Penny Novack > wrote: > > On 8/2/2019 1:21 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote: >> Yes, I understand they are different. The

Re: [GNC] Club membership fees and charitable contributions - Business Features or Assets?

2019-08-02 Thread Mike or Penny Novack
On 8/2/2019 1:21 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote: Yes, I understand they are different. The Business Features *could* still be used, just not considered in a formal way. But certainly, manual entries are possible. The tough part of pledges is they really don’t go anywhere in the account tree

Re: [GNC] Club membership fees and charitable contributions - Business Features or Assets?

2019-08-02 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Yes, I understand they are different. The Business Features *could* still be used, just not considered in a formal way. But certainly, manual entries are possible. The tough part of pledges is they really don’t go anywhere in the account tree that I can see. They are not assets, not AR from a

Re: [GNC] Club membership fees and charitable contributions - Business Features or Assets?

2019-08-02 Thread Adrien Monteleone
I’m not quite following the need to keep the members in a separate book, especially in the Club case. But since you are already doing this in spreadsheets, maybe just keep the member stuff there (with better inter-sheet links if needed) and export data relevant to the GC books. That would keep

Re: [GNC] Club membership fees and charitable contributions - Business Features or Assets?

2019-08-02 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Don’t forget to copy the list, this came in only to me. > On Aug 2, 2019, at 3:48 AM, Michael Hendry wrote: > >> >> You can easily duplicate invoices to reduce typing. You can also do some >> quick duplication in a spreadsheet, then import this data as ‘invoices’ into >> GnuCash, reducing

Re: [GNC] Club membership fees and charitable contributions - Business Features or Assets?

2019-08-02 Thread Michael Hendry
> On 2 Aug 2019, at 13:09, Mike or Penny Novack > wrote: > > On 8/2/2019 3:34 AM, Adrien Monteleone wrote: >> I’m not sure about keeping track of member donations in an Asset account. >> > There are difficult issues doing financials for non-profits which can require > some fiddling using

Re: [GNC] Club membership fees and charitable contributions - Business Features or Assets?

2019-08-02 Thread Mike or Penny Novack
On 8/2/2019 3:34 AM, Adrien Monteleone wrote: I’m not sure about keeping track of member donations in an Asset account. There are difficult issues doing financials for non-profits which can require some fiddling using gnucash (or any alternative). For example -- the members may want to

Re: [GNC] Club membership fees and charitable contributions - Business Features or Assets?

2019-08-02 Thread Adrien Monteleone
I’m not sure about keeping track of member donations in an Asset account. Sure, the donation is an asset of the club. That would go to Cash or Checking, etc. But the other side of that should be some sort of Income account I would think. With the Business Features you could set up each member

[GNC] Club membership fees and charitable contributions - Business Features or Assets?

2019-08-02 Thread Michael Hendry
I have just become Treasurer for my Rotary Club, and my predecessor used spreadsheets to record the club’s finances. Everyone is required to pay an annual subscription, but there are a number of ways in which members may opt in to regular or occasional charitable payments (e.g. an annual