he changes, or offered to/warned you. Just a thought
in passing!
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From: R Losey
To: David G. Pickett
Cc: Gnucash Users
Sent: Mon, Jan 2, 2023 5:08 pm
Subject: Re: [GNC] Scary moment
If I have GnuCash on one machine and then attempt to open it on anothe
On 1/2/2023 1:43 PM, Gyle McCollam wrote:
No Gnucash doesn't recognize that someone else had made an entry, because as I
understand it Gnucash opens in memory. It is not a multiuser program.
It is not a SIMULTANEOUS multiple user program. It is OK for multiple
sequential users provided
On 1/2/2023 10:40 AM, John Layman wrote:
Writing to SSD is not instantaneous and I've found auto-save to be an
annoyance. I much prefer creating backups at coherent checkpoints by
SAVEing.
I also (strongly) prefer doing periodic explicit saves and always reject
"auto-save". The only
If I have GnuCash on one machine and then attempt to open it on another
machine, there is a warning that the LCK file is present. (I don't know if
that was what you intended to ask, but I have done this a couple of times
by accident).
On Mon, Jan 2, 2023 at 11:10 AM David G. Pickett via
to be coherent, I need to invoke them manually.
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To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] Scary moment
New user (refugee from Intuit, finally) question on this topic:
Given
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If open on multiple machines, does gnuCash notice save on one machine in open
session on other machine, as many apps do when the loca
If open on multiple machines, does gnuCash notice save on one machine in open
session on other machine, as many apps do when the local copy is updated ?
Should it?
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As a software engineer with ~40 years, I've learned to remember details...
glad it was helpful.
On Sat, Dec 31, 2022 at 11:51 AM Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:
> Not boring. Well detailed, thanks!
>
> It looks like that rules out file-access issues.
>
> Okay, last
Your post came though for me, and I answered it.
I only have Perl installed on Linux, so I can only do price updates there.
On Sat, Dec 31, 2022 at 6:57 PM Robert Kesterson
wrote:
> I don’t know what that content is, but I didn’t knowingly post a binary
> here (which is what that looks like).
Well, before, if I ran the GnuCash GUI with it open on another machine, it
tells me that the file is locked. I don't override the lock unless I know
that the machine or GnuCash crashed. I have caught myself a handful of
times over the last seven years, so it is possible, especially if the
Not sure where you saw that odd string. It didn't appear in your last post.
Binaries would be stripped off anyway.
It must be something with your mail client.
Regards,
Adrien
On 12/31/22 6:56 PM, Robert Kesterson wrote:
I don’t know what that content is, but I didn’t knowingly post a binary
I don’t know what that content is, but I didn’t knowingly post a binary here
(which is what that looks like). Speaking of scary moments…
Anyway what I intended to post was something along the lines of this:
Since the OP mentions using Gnucash both as an application and as a CLI utility
on
Maybe it has been asked already, but with the file being accessed from three
separate machines, by a gui and by a CLI utility, are you sure it wasn’t open
on two machine at once? That would explain everything if one machine made the
changes, but another machine (which didn’t have the changes)
Not boring. Well detailed, thanks!
It looks like that rules out file-access issues.
Okay, last gasp here:
For safety, I'd make 2 copies for testing.
1. Update prices via GUI rather than CLI. Check if transactions
disappear. Exit, reopen, check again. Since you were running the CLI
update on
Yes, I have an iMac (pretty new), a Win10 machine, and an older Linux
machine (Ubuntu 22.04 LTS). The file - the only one I use - is stored on a
NAS disk that all of the machines can access. Nothing has gone wrong with
the disk that I can tell, since I use the NAS for a lot of stuff and there
have
My data file is stored on a NAS device (with redundant disks). I've been
using GnuCash for seven years now, and have always kept it on the NAS and
have had no issues like this before.
My machines are three separate physical machines (I have an recent iMac, a
Windows 10 machine, and an older
Good question Adrien, there have been issues previously when using the
likes of OneDrive / Google Drive etc to share files between machine.
Cheers David H.
On Sat, 31 Dec 2022 at 3:31 pm, Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:
> Where is your data file?
>
> Are you using 3
How are you accessing your file from the two different operating systems? Are
you running a Linux VM on your Windows system? If so, are you accessing a
common disc from both systems, or are you using a network file system to access
the GnuCash data file?
—
Peter West
p...@pbw.id.au
And the
Where is your data file?
Are you using 3 separate physical machines, or are some of these VMs?
If you've done various finds, reports, and other searches to eliminate
data-entry error possibilities, and since this has happened more than
once to the same data, I'm inclined to hazard one more
Versions are a little confusing Mac was running 4.12 until today; I am
now on the current version.
I updated the Windows version earlier this week.
Linux GnuCash is older (4.), but I don't run the GUI there -
usually just the gnucash-cli stock updates, which I updated on Thursday
from
Are you using the current version? If so, it might be appropriate to
enter a bug report, mentioning each of the things you have checked for.
Stan Brown
Tehachapi, CA, USA
https://BrownMath.com
On 2022-12-30 17:23, R Losey wrote:
> Thanks, but I am aware of this. On Wed, after I entered the data,
Thanks, but I am aware of this. On Wed, after I entered the data, I re-ran
the report, and verified that the checks now showed up.
On Friday, the checks were missing again.
The only thing I can think of that was different is that I was running
price updates on Tue, Wed, and Thu via gnucash-cli.
It ***MIGHT*** be some kind of user error... I may have neglected to enter
the checks last weekend, but I know for certain that they were entered on
Wednesday, and had the date right, because they should up in the this
year's report in right place.
It **MIGHT** be that I didn't save the data, but
Good ideas... my responses:
The transactions were not in the wrong accounts; they just went missing. I
**THINK** I entered them last weekend; when I was doing tax work on
Wednesday, they weren't there, and I re-entered them, re-running the report
and verifying that the data now showed up. I
Good suggestions, Adrien. I have a fourth thought:
We don't know how Losey was doing the "workup", but if it involved a
report, and some of the relevant transactions were in accounts created
after the last time the report was saved, then transactions in those
accounts would not be picked up
Great thoughts, Adrien. I have made every one of those mistakes in 45
years of entering data.
On Fri, Dec 30, 2022 at 3:56 PM Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:
> Another possibility:
>
> The transactions ended up in a different account.
>
> Do a Find from the Accounts
Another possibility:
The transactions ended up in a different account.
Do a Find from the Accounts tab from all sides of the transaction and
see if they pop up when you think they are missing.
Also, check the Orphan and Imbalance accounts.
And another possibility:
You have a View Filter on
Simon,
I stick with the default compressed xml file data storage (the default)
with Gnucash and I NEVER autosave, that way if I stuff something up during
the session I just exit and tell Gnucash to NOT save the changes and then
re-open Gnucash with the previous version of the data file and start
h-user on
behalf of Simon Roberts
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2022 1:50 PM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] Scary moment
New user (refugee from Intuit, finally) question on this topic:
Given that these days we tend to have vast disks, and they're often very
fast SSDs, I'm in
.
Thank You,
Gyle McCollam
Gyle McCollam
gmccol...@live.com<mailto:gmccol...@gyleshomes.com> email
From: gnucash-user on
behalf of Simon Roberts
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2022 1:50 PM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] Scary momen
The UI locks up while the Save happens, so saving every minute might be...
annoying.. Even on a fast SSD.
I would recommend you don't go below 5.
-derek
On Fri, December 30, 2022 1:50 pm, Simon Roberts wrote:
> New user (refugee from Intuit, finally) question on this topic:
>
> Given that
New user (refugee from Intuit, finally) question on this topic:
Given that these days we tend to have vast disks, and they're often very
fast SSDs, I'm inclined to enable auto-save and set a relatively short
interval (perhaps as little as a minute?)
Are there issues with doing this that I've not
On 12/30/2022 1:02 PM, Derek Atkins wrote:
I suppose there could have been a bug..
GnuCash is supposed to prevent you from exiting if there is unsaved data.
However, I suppose there COULD be a way for you to shut down / close
GnuCash in a way that prevents it from popping up that dialog box.
I suppose there could have been a bug..
GnuCash is supposed to prevent you from exiting if there is unsaved data.
However, I suppose there COULD be a way for you to shut down / close
GnuCash in a way that prevents it from popping up that dialog box.
-derek
On Fri, December 30, 2022 12:46 pm, R
Yes, I'm well aware of that... I NEVER double-click on the GnuCash files; I
just bring up GnuCash itself and it uses (I presume) the last file I used,
which is the only one I have.
So, it wasn't that. On Wed, I did the open on the Mac and they were
missing (I thought that I may have forgotten to
Unlikely..
HOWEVER, one IMPORTANT thing to keep in mind on the Mac is that GnuCash
does not honor double-clicking on a data file to open /that/ file. When
you double-click on ANY data file, GnuCash will start and ALWAYS open the
last file you had used.. It doesn't matter WHAT file you clicked
I just had a thought about what may be the cause... I was fooling around
with the financial quote program on Ubuntu and had run it multiple times.
Maybe that somehow erased the changes.
On Fri, Dec 30, 2022 at 10:43 AM R Losey wrote:
> I was doing preliminary tax workup earlier this week, and
I was doing preliminary tax workup earlier this week, and (to my surprise),
there were some transactions mentioned that I thought I'd entered last
Friday... (I only noticed because they weren't there in the report I was
using). Anyway, I entered them, verified that they showed up on the report,
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