Re: [GNC] balance of interests between users and developers

2023-05-21 Thread Paul Kroitor
Of flywire Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2023 7:51 PM To: Gnucash Users Subject: [GNC] balance of interests between users and developers > If the new version could be installed alongside the current version > and data files kept separate It's not necessarily new version and current version. Two versions

[GNC] balance of interests between users and developers

2023-05-20 Thread flywire
> If the new version could be installed alongside the current version and data files kept separate It's not necessarily new version and current version. Two versions, same computer - https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2023-March/105955.html In Windows, use GnuCash installed on

Re: [GNC] balance of interests between users and developers

2023-05-20 Thread Carsten Hütter
__ >From: gnucash-user >on behalf of Michael or Penny Novack >Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2023 5:25 PM >To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org >Subject: Re: [GNC] balance of interests between users and developers > >Precisely because I am a retired pro, I have not worked o

Re: [GNC] balance of interests between users and developers

2023-05-20 Thread Gyle McCollam
turday, May 20, 2023 5:25 PM To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org Subject: Re: [GNC] balance of interests between users and developers Precisely because I am a retired pro, I have not worked on development in this volunteer environment. See, my experience was in a different environment when we had en

Re: [GNC] balance of interests between users and developers

2023-05-20 Thread Michael or Penny Novack
Precisely because I am a retired pro, I have not worked on development in this volunteer environment. See, my experience was in a different environment when we had end user commitment to the project. By which I mean end user TIME. Not "I want" but "I am willing to commit to the end user part

Re: [GNC] balance of interests between users and developers

2023-05-20 Thread John Dablin via gnucash-user
On 20/05/2023 20:05, Vincent Dawans wrote: In my (long gone) days as a paid software developer, we had access to a QA/test team that would give us all the feedback we needed. In my own (also long gone) days as a software developer I remember reading a (partly) humorous  article that reckoned

Re: [GNC] balance of interests between users and developers

2023-05-20 Thread Stan Brown
On 2023-05-20 12:05, Vincent Dawans wrote: > When you compile from source on Linux in particular, as a developer this is > super easy and allows you to install as many versions of gnucash > concurrently as you want. However I don't think it's possible to install > concurrent versions from official

Re: [GNC] balance of interests between users and developers

2023-05-20 Thread Vincent Dawans
I think Geert puts the issue clearly in highlighting the need for more testing, a weak spot in any open source software. This is even more so with gnuCash because we are dealing with critical financial data, both in terms of the importance of testing but also the challenge since we don't want

Re: [GNC] balance of interests between users and developers

2023-05-20 Thread Maf. King
Thank you Geert, for a considered response and reminder of the limitations of a (all?) volunteer groups. I can imagine that it was disheartening for the dev team to be met with so many bugs and so much vitriol over the issues some use-cases found with the 5.0 release. I can also understand

Re: [GNC] balance of interests between users and developers

2023-05-20 Thread Geert Janssens
I really shouldn't answer this, but it's too painful to read... Perhaps the user's expectations are too high for a volunteer project such as gnucash. It's true, things go wrong. Especially with major releases which typically have changes accumulating over the longer development cycle which

Re: [GNC] balance of interests between users and developers

2023-05-20 Thread G R Hewitt
I agree with the sentiments WM expressed; I have had the growing feeling from reading the emails that pet projects are worked on in isolation to the main. It kind of reminds me of a model railway exhibition I once went to many moons ago. On one large display, all nicely set out, no trains were

[GNC] balance of interests between users and developers

2023-05-19 Thread Wm
I think the balance between users of gnc and developers of gnc has broken down. My personal instinct is inclined towards development, towards software getting better, being more inclusive, making things easier, you get the drift. Unfortunately it seems some personal projects got in the way