On Sun, 23 Apr 2023 12:49:29 -0400
King Mak wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have just acquired a new computer. I moved all my gnucash files to
> the new computer by copy-paste. But when I open my accounting files
> in the new computer, I notice that some of the transactions are
> missing . What do I do?
On 4/24/2023 4:24 PM, R Losey wrote:
If you have a trust (I assume that it is for someone else), a business,
and personal accounts, why not just have three separate books?
Not necessarily.
From the description, probably only one tax ID. I am guessing the trust
might be a revocable trust (we
Cash-US
> Cash-International
> Bonds-US
> Bonds-International
> Stock-US
> Stock-International
> RealEstate-US
> RealEstate-International
>
> Sometime later, I learned about Trading accounts, so turned on that
> feature. I noticed that the Trading accounts
It might be easier at this time to keep separate books and then export
and manipulate further in a spreadsheet for the combined reports. (while
I understand some reports can be either consolidated or separate, the
fact that you need separate Balance Sheet Reports tells me the books
should be
rs
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2023 09:36:29 +0300
> Subject: [GNC] Reorganize Trading accounts
> When I first setup my file, all of the investments / securities were
> organized by type:
> Cash-US
> Cash-International
> Bonds-US
> Bonds-International
> St
n I first setup my file, all of the investments / securities were
> organized by type:
> Cash-US
> Cash-International
> Bonds-US
> Bonds-International
> Stock-US
> Stock-International
> RealEstate-US
> RealEstate-International
>
> Sometime later, I learn
When I first setup my file, all of the investments / securities were
organized by type:
Cash-US
Cash-International
Bonds-US
Bonds-International
Stock-US
Stock-International
RealEstate-US
RealEstate-International
Sometime later, I learned about Trading accounts, so turned
Maybe, because it's all we've got for differentiating two securities with the
same symbol.
Regards,
John Ralls
> On Apr 22, 2023, at 1:20 AM, Fred Tydeman wrote:
>
> Is there a relationship between Security Namespaces and Trading accounts?
> If I change which Namespac
Is there a relationship between Security Namespaces and Trading accounts?
If I change which Namespace a security is in, should that affect a Trading
account?
On Fri, Apr 21, 2023 at 11:29 PM john wrote:
> No, the naming scheme is hard-coded. Ralf Habacker made a start at
> removin
No, the naming scheme is hard-coded. Ralf Habacker made a start at removing
name dependencies but got it working only for opening balance accounts.
Regards,
John Ralls
> On Apr 21, 2023, at 9:30 AM, Fred Tydeman wrote:
>
> Can Trading accounts be moved around?
> That is, given
Can Trading accounts be moved around?
That is, given a new parent.
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to fix things by adding trading account splits where needed
you could use the "Check and Repair" commands in the Actions menu. If
Trading Accounts are turned on these commands should add the splits
where required. I would certainly make a backup copy before trying
this.
Mike
On 2
;;--))
>
>Geoff
>=
>
>On 27/07/2022 8:36 pm, David Carlson wrote:
>> This has confused me. Is the recent thread titled "
>> [GNC] Evil Lots Behavior" about lots or trading accounts?
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 12:10 AM David T. wrote:
>
transactions without notification,
something I believe to be a dangerous bug...)
You suggested that the OP consult that thread. I'm saying it's not the same
problem, and the ELB thread has nothing to do with trading accounts.
David T.
On July 27, 2022 2:46:34 PM GMT+03:00, Geoff wrote:
>Lots.
>
Lots.
(And they aren't really evil, just wilful).
;--))
Geoff
=
On 27/07/2022 8:36 pm, David Carlson wrote:
This has confused me. Is the recent thread titled "
[GNC] Evil Lots Behavior" about lots or trading accounts?
On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 12:10 AM David T. wrote:
This has confused me. Is the recent thread titled "
[GNC] Evil Lots Behavior" about lots or trading accounts?
On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 12:10 AM David T. wrote:
> David C.
>
> Trading accounts are not the same as lots. Different concept, different
> code. Just a for inst
David C.
Trading accounts are not the same as lots. Different concept, different code.
Just a for instance: trading accounts are turned on by book; lots can be
enabled by account.
David T.
On July 27, 2022 3:33:37 AM GMT+03:00, David Carlson
wrote:
>I believe that you are witnessing fi
ote:
> > Over the past several months, I have been importing Quicken data into
> > GnuCash. There is about 6 years of data and lots of transactions.
> Besides
> > normal income and expenses, that data involved many different stocks and
> > many different currencies. Recently, I
I believe that you are witnessing first hand why trading accounts are not
enabled by default, i.e. they create a royal mess in your trading history.
You might want to re-read the recent thread about evil trading accounts.
They may work ok for some users who's documentation goals align
t; normal income and expenses, that data involved many different stocks and
> many different currencies. Recently, I saw a reference to "Trading"
> accounts. I have now enabled that feature. Based on reading
> https://www.mathstat.dal.ca/~selinger/accounting/tutorial, I believ
Over the past several months, I have been importing Quicken data into
GnuCash. There is about 6 years of data and lots of transactions. Besides
normal income and expenses, that data involved many different stocks and
many different currencies. Recently, I saw a reference to "Trading"
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Cc: Michael via gnucash-user<mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org>; Public
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Subject: Re: [GNC] GNU cash keeps adding trading accounts
My apologies. I was
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Subject: Re: [GNC] GNU cash keeps adding trading accounts
I think this is a known bug discussed/reported back in late April which has
been fixed and will presumably be released in v4.6 shortly. Check out
https://lis
ng trading accounts
This may or may not be the same problem as in the earlier issue. The earlier
issue concerned accounts created in Equity erroneously, not Trading. The (mis-)
creation of trading accounts in different tree structures sounds like a
different but related problem. Perhaps the fix i
This may or may not be the same problem as in the earlier issue. The earlier
issue concerned accounts created in Equity erroneously, not Trading. The (mis-)
creation of trading accounts in different tree structures sounds like a
different but related problem. Perhaps the fix implemented
I think this is a known bug discussed/reported back in late April which has
been fixed and will presumably be released in v4.6 shortly. Check out
https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2021-April/096343.html for
more details. Bug report at
Version: 4.5
Build ID: 4.5+(2021-03-27)
Finance::Quote: 1.49
Windows 10
I have been entering stock transactions. All stocks are successfully set up in
the security editor.
However, if (say) I buy AMD shares
1 Buy 10 shares in Brokerage account:AMD
2
On 4 Apr 2021, at 3:29, zuperkoleopt...@gmail.com wrote:
Do you think I should file bug reports?
Sure, if you can specify detailed step by step instructions for
reproducing the errors. The more information you can give the more
likely it is to get fixed.
Mike
On Sat, 2021-04-03 at 03:21 -0400, Mike Alexander wrote:
> On 3 Apr 2021, at 1:31, zuperkoleopt...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Another issue that I just realized and is related to the
> > functionality
> > of trading accounts, but maybe not the one that we are discussing
> >
On 3 Apr 2021, at 1:31, zuperkoleopt...@gmail.com wrote:
Another issue that I just realized and is related to the functionality
of trading accounts, but maybe not the one that we are discussing
here,
is the security/currency of the top level placeholder account Trading.
Shouldn't that be set
the
> > > > system not in eur which is a currency.
> > > > Although I have switched to use "commodity value" in the
> > > > "smallest
> > > > fraction" switch it still uses 1/ instead the 1/.
> > > > But
ill uses 1/ instead the 1/.
>>> But this is somehow minor issue as I assume it does not affect the
>>> actual value of the account, it's just visual.
>>
>> No, it's pretty clearly keeping the transaction from balancing
>> because .0012 != .00
account, it's just visual.
>
> No, it's pretty clearly keeping the transaction from balancing
> because .0012 != .00115652.
>
> As for the trading splits miraculously appearing, did that happen to
> all cross-commodity transactions in your book or just ones that you
> touche
> On Apr 2, 2021, at 9:42 AM, zuperkoleopt...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> On Fri, 2021-04-02 at 08:47 -0700, John Ralls wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On Apr 2, 2021, at 8:37 AM, John Ralls wrote:
>>>
>>> On Apr 2, 2021, at 4:05 AM, zuperkoleopt...@gmail.com wrote:
which by the way it
does not
On Fri, 2021-04-02 at 08:47 -0700, John Ralls wrote:
>
>
> > On Apr 2, 2021, at 8:37 AM, John Ralls wrote:
> >
> > On Apr 2, 2021, at 4:05 AM, zuperkoleopt...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >
> > > which by the way it
> > > does not use the default security fraction which is 1/
> > > but
> > >
> On Apr 2, 2021, at 8:37 AM, John Ralls wrote:
>
> On Apr 2, 2021, at 4:05 AM, zuperkoleopt...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> which by the way it
>> does not use the default security fraction which is 1/ but
>> 1/.
>
> The price is in Euro, so it displays as 1/100 of the Euro's
On Apr 2, 2021, at 4:05 AM, zuperkoleopt...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> which by the way it
> does not use the default security fraction which is 1/ but
> 1/.
The price is in Euro, so it displays as 1/100 of the Euro's fraction. That's
for display only, the actual calculated price is as
I have been using lots and scrubing my investment accounts to track
realized gains. But since I have turned on trading accounts I have not
scrubbed any account.
I am attaching an example of 2 splits created after turning on trading
accounts. As a side-note some of the account names are in Greek
On 28 Mar 2021, at 11:21, zuperkoleopt...@gmail.com wrote:
The problem I am facing is the following, after activating trading
accounts the system created the hierarchy for all the trading
accounts,
but also created a bunch of splits in already recorded transactions.
So
from the beginning
in USD, so I started
exploring the trading accounts functionality. I have read both articles
from P. Selinger and browsed through the documentation and mailing
lists, for related subjects.
The problem I am facing is the following, after activating trading
accounts the system created the hierarchy
Hi Mike, Lukas,
I am using trading accounts since multiple years and can confirm that the UI
can be pretty cumbersome. I got used to it. Besides the regular problems in
getting the transactions straight it works pretty well
Cheers,
Christoph
> Am 22.01.2021 um 06:13 schrieb Mike Alexan
account accounts for these inaccuracies.
>
> My question was more why the trading accounts (which seem to me the
> cleaner, superior and better way) are not enabled by default.
>
> Also, can you comment a bit more why precicely this would be a major
> minefield? (If you know it, o
uments previously (but did not read them thoroughly).
>
> My takeaway is:
> * Storing the conversion rate per transaction makes the accounting
> equation as a function of time inconsistent (but it is consistent for each
> snaphot in time).
> * Trading account accounts for these inaccura
When I implemented trading accounts several years ago they were a bit
controversial. Some people thought they were more trouble than they
were worth and argued that they should be an opt-in choice. One of the
initial design goals was that if you didn't turn them on nothing would
change
y is a major minefield.
> > Start from
> https://www.mathstat.dal.ca/~selinger/accounting/tutorial.html
> > and finish with
> > https://www.mathstat.dal.ca/~selinger/accounting/gnucash.html for the
> > background on trading accounts.
> > From discussion with ac
takeaway is:
* Storing the conversion rate per transaction makes the accounting equation as
a function of time inconsistent (but it is consistent for each snaphot in time).
* Trading account accounts for these inaccuracies.
My question was more why the trading accounts (which seem to me the cleaner
snaphot in time).
* Trading account accounts for these inaccuracies.
My question was more why the trading accounts (which seem to me the
cleaner, superior and better way) are not enabled by default.
Also, can you comment a bit more why precicely this would be a major
minefield? (If you know
Multicurrency is a major minefield.
Start from https://www.mathstat.dal.ca/~selinger/accounting/tutorial.html
and finish with
https://www.mathstat.dal.ca/~selinger/accounting/gnucash.html for the
background on trading accounts.
>From discussion with accountant, it would seem that the saf
Hi Mike,
On 2021-01-21 02:24, Mike Alexander wrote:
On 19 Jan 2021, at 20:08, Lukas Haase wrote:
So I got recommended using trading accounts. But suddenly all my
previous multi-currency transactions get a small grey box with a cross
(hinting the transaction is inconsistent).
How do I best
On 19 Jan 2021, at 20:08, Lukas Haase wrote:
So I got recommended using trading accounts. But suddenly all my
previous multi-currency transactions get a small grey box with a cross
(hinting the transaction is inconsistent).
How do I best deal with this?
Is it possible to keep my old multi
ot recommended using trading accounts. But suddenly all my previous
multi-currency transactions get a small grey box with a cross (hinting the
transaction is inconsistent).
How do I best deal with this?
Is it possible to keep my old multi currency transactions as-is and use trading
accounts only f
They show up in their own section if I'm not mistaken.
While the original question is interesting, I wonder how practical the
answer is.
Regards,
Adrien
On 10/17/20 11:58 AM, Stan Brown wrote:
And of asset accounts.
One way to determine whether its expense account or an asset account is
On 2020-10-17 04:42, Gal wrote:
> But on the other hand, when I open a trading account register, I see that
> money coming into the account (debit) is increasing its balance, and money
> going out of the account (credit) is decreasing the balance, but this is the
> behavior of expense accounts.
Does a trading account, i.e. an account of type "Trading" that was auto
created by the system, acts like an income account or like an expense
account?
On one hand the concept behind this account type classifies it as an income
account:
https://www.mscs.dal.ca/~selinger/accounting/tutorial.html
Thank you David.
On Sun, Jan 26, 2020 at 5:56 AM David Cousens
wrote:
> Gio,
>
> There is one problem that does occur with importing multiple currencies
> associated with the price that I am aware of. If the price is expressed as
> a
> rational number i.e. one integer number divided by another
Gio,
There is one problem that does occur with importing multiple currencies
associated with the price that I am aware of. If the price is expressed as a
rational number i.e. one integer number divided by another integer number or
1+ a rational number, GnuCash sometimes does not appear to parse
So I started a new file. Then I imported csvs containing transactions which
have been pre-populated with Gnucash expense accounts. While Gnucash
expense accounts are in 1 currency, there are some accounts that have other
currencies.
After importation, I find that gnucash created a trading
shows the amount spent or received. So the trading USD account shows dollar
amounts for all stock transactions in USD. I did not see a way to set up
trading accounts for the currency side of each stock separately, but there
may well be a way.
When I sell a security I post a debit to the checking
Thanks, Derek. I get that.
I guess trading accounts do not provide for a use case I need.
Keith
On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 12:10 PM, Derek Atkins <de...@ihtfp.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Trading accounts do not show you UNREALIZED gains. They exist to help you
> balance out REALI
Hi,
Trading accounts do not show you UNREALIZED gains. They exist to help you
balance out REALIZED gains once you have a sale transaction.
-derek
On Wed, February 21, 2018 12:00 pm, Keith Bellairs wrote:
> I started looking at using trading accounts but I may be missing
> som
I started looking at using trading accounts but I may be missing something.
The trading account created by gnucash for a stock shows as a balance the
number of shares in the account. This is also the balance shown in the
asset account for that stock.
Transactions for all stocks post to the USD
Thanks, that is what my test file indicates. I am adding Trading
Accounts to my production GC file.
Les
On 02/13/2018 02:59 AM, Wm via gnucash-user wrote:
On 12/02/2018 17:12, Les wrote:
I use, in addition to USD. AUD, HKD, CAD, CNY and SGD. I buy in
tranches for average cost. So
On 13/02/2018 02:27, David Carlson wrote:
Be sure to compare what Gnucash generates to what your broker reports to
the government. Gnucash has trouble calculating the net gain that the IRS
wants to see.
Many of us still use spreadsheet s to compare to the brokerage reports that
are sent to the
, at the bottom
of my accounts list, there is a list of currencies and exchanges with
totals for each. But, again, there isn't any difference in income and
expenses.
Trading Accounts may well help you given the mix of currencies.
--
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On 12/02/2018 12:41, Les wrote:
I have a "test" laptop with GC 2.6.17 running the latest Linux Mint. I
opened GC and tried using Trading Accounts, did check and repair, noted
the totals of assets, liabilities, income and expense before and after.
There was no difference. I then ra
fference occurs (and I completely missed it initially). In
the GC file without the use of Trading Accounts, I have unrealized
gains, whereas in the GC file using Trading Accounts, I have
trading gains.
I think I need to start using Trading Accounts, if I want to
obtain a more ac
, "Les" <lellio...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I ran a balance sheet for 2016 and compared the two. Everything looks the
> same until I reach the equity account. Here is where the difference occurs
> (and I completely missed it initially). In the GC file without the use of
&
I ran a balance sheet for 2016 and compared the two. Everything looks
the same until I reach the equity account. Here is where the difference
occurs (and I completely missed it initially). In the GC file without
the use of Trading Accounts, I have unrealized gains, whereas in the GC
file
If you read Christopher's links, they go into the theory behind the
development of trading accounts.
I personally do not need them for my use, so I am not conversant with how
they work.
I think that you may need them, based on the fact that you are looking into
using them, but I cannot help
/accounting/tutorial.html
https://www.mathstat.dal.ca/~selinger/accounting/gnucash.html
C
On 12/02/18 20:41, Les wrote:
I have a "test" laptop with GC 2.6.17 running the latest Linux Mint.
I opened GC and tried using Trading Accounts, did check and repair,
noted the totals
I have a "test" laptop with GC 2.6.17 running the latest Linux Mint. I
opened GC and tried using Trading Accounts, did check and repair, noted
the totals of assets, liabilities, income and expense before and after.
There was no difference. I then ran a Income and Expense report
It would be more fun to make a test copy of an existing file!
David C
On Feb 12, 2018 4:13 AM, "Les" <lellio...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks, Adrien, David & Christoph for your replies. I think opening a new
> GC file and testing Trading Accounts is a good
t is difficult to
> turn them off.
>
> I would set up a test file to try them on until you decide whether you like
> them.
>
> David C
>
> On Feb 11, 2018 5:39 PM, "Adrien Monteleone" <adrien.montele...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Yes, you c
you can add trading accounts (or any other accounts) as needed to your
> current file.
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
> On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 4:18 PM, Les <lellio...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I have been using GC for several years, and although I trade stocks, I
> >
I have been using GC for several years, and although I trade stocks, I
have never used the "Trading Accounts" option. Can I just start using
it, or would I need to start a new GC file?
Thanks,
Les
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