Re: key generation: email-address necessary?

2010-02-27 Thread Laurent Jumet
Hello Martin ! Martin Bretschneider mailing-lists-m...@bretschneidernet.de wrote: I want to recreate my GnuPG keys. My question is if I can omit the email address? Since I do not want my email addresses to appear on the keyservers because of spammers and so on. I only want to put my name and

Re: key generation: email-address necessary?

2010-02-27 Thread Martin Bretschneider
Am Samstag 27 Februar 2010 schrieb Laurent Jumet: Hi Laurent, Martin Bretschneider mailing-lists-m...@bretschneidernet.de wrote: I want to recreate my GnuPG keys. My question is if I can omit the email address? Since I do not want my email addresses to appear on the keyservers because of

Re: key question

2010-02-27 Thread John W. Moore III
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Jerry wrote: Maybe not totally apropos to this discussion; however, I worked in traffic analysis for several years. If given enough leeway, you would be amazed at the information you can gather about an individual, and at its astonishing

OFF LIST

2010-02-27 Thread Charly Avital
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, news of the 8.8, or 8.3 earthquake that has stricken Chile have been posted in many on-line dailies. I have tried unsuccessfully to access a few portals in Chile (e.g. White Pages, the dailies) they seem to be down. I have also tried

OT: key question

2010-02-27 Thread Jerry
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 08:24:07 -0500 John W. Moore III jmoore...@bellsouth.net articulated: UAV Missile Operators don't need to know what the message said; just where You are at the time it is Sent. Radio transmissions are targeted using Huff-Duff

Re: key generation: email-address necessary?

2010-02-27 Thread Laurent Jumet
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Hello Martin ! Martin Bretschneider mailing-lists-m...@bretschneidernet.de wrote: You can use whatever you want to identify your key. But in some cases, mail programs expect to find your e-mail. that was my expectation as well. But

Re: key question

2010-02-27 Thread David Shaw
On Feb 26, 2010, at 12:04 PM, Robert J. Hansen wrote: In some cases, the authorities knowing an individual used encryption could be a problem. Why? Because they have a key on the keyservers? If this is what you're worried about, rest easy: there are so many easier ways to learn whether

Re: key generation: email-address necessary?

2010-02-27 Thread Martin Bretschneider
Am Samstag 27 Februar 2010 schrieb Laurent Jumet: Hello Martin ! Martin Bretschneider mailing-lists-m...@bretschneidernet.de wrote: You can use whatever you want to identify your key. But in some cases, mail programs expect to find your e-mail. that was my expectation as well.

Re: key question

2010-02-27 Thread Robert J. Hansen
On 2/27/10 9:58 AM, David Shaw wrote: Do you really mean to suggest that a US authority getting email headers - even without a warrant - is easier than typing a name into a search box on a keyserver? No. You're right, that's clearly easier. However, that only tells you whether someone has

Re: key generation: email-address necessary?

2010-02-27 Thread Grant Olson
On 2/27/2010 5:50 AM, Martin Bretschneider wrote: that was my expectation as well. But what do the email clients do then? Do they say no key available or do the look for the name? What are your experiences? TIA Martin Enigmail will lookup the key by key ID (0xDEADBEEF) when you tell it

Re: key generation: email-address necessary?

2010-02-27 Thread Laurent Jumet
Hello Martin ! Martin Bretschneider mailing-lists-m...@bretschneidernet.de wrote: It's not easy to answer that question, as it depends on your own system. When you read a signed message, GPG provides a way to call automatically the sender's public key on your designed servers, when

Re: key generation: email-address necessary?

2010-02-27 Thread Ingo Klöcker
On Saturday 27 February 2010, Martin Bretschneider wrote: Am Samstag 27 Februar 2010 schrieb Laurent Jumet: Hi Laurent, Martin Bretschneider mailing-lists-m...@bretschneidernet.de wrote: I want to recreate my GnuPG keys. My question is if I can omit the email address? Since I do not

Re: key generation: email-address necessary?

2010-02-27 Thread Doug Barton
On 02/26/10 10:34, Martin Bretschneider wrote: Hi, I want to recreate my GnuPG keys. My question is if I can omit the email address? Since I do not want my email addresses to appear on the keyservers because of spammers and so on. 1. It's been repeated many times on the list that those

Re: key question

2010-02-27 Thread MFPA
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi On Saturday 27 February 2010 at 6:11:29 AM, in mid:4b88b791.7000...@sixdemonbag.org, Robert J. Hansen wrote: There is a perceived need for $150 bowls of soup, as evidenced by dozens of high-priced gourmet restaurants in major cities. The

Re: key question

2010-02-27 Thread David Shaw
On Feb 27, 2010, at 11:22 AM, Robert J. Hansen wrote: On 2/27/10 9:58 AM, David Shaw wrote: Do you really mean to suggest that a US authority getting email headers - even without a warrant - is easier than typing a name into a search box on a keyserver? No. You're right, that's clearly

Re: key question

2010-02-27 Thread Robert J. Hansen
On Feb 27, 2010, at 2:21 PM, MFPA wrote: I have always been taught to challenge the status quo. Because that's the way we do it is *never* a good reason to continue doing something in a particular way. The status quo has something going for it: it works. 95% of all new ideas are awful and

Re: key question

2010-02-27 Thread Robert J. Hansen
On Feb 27, 2010, at 3:02 PM, David Shaw wrote: Much as the email headers do in your example. If the mail is not encrypted, the headers just show that it might be. In practice, headers won't show much as the majority of modern mail programs have the capability for encryption of one sort

Re[2]: key generation: email-address necessary?

2010-02-27 Thread MFPA
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi Martin On Saturday 27 February 2010 at 10:50:13 AM, you wrote: that was my expectation as well. But what do the email clients do then? Do they say no key available or do the look for the name? What are your experiences? I use The Bat!

Re: key question

2010-02-27 Thread MFPA
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi On Saturday 27 February 2010 at 4:22:27 PM, in mid:4b8946c3.5050...@sixdemonbag.org, Robert J. Hansen wrote: His position seems to have shifted. As the thread has progressed, the posts I'm replying to have shifted from It is a good idea to

Re[2]: key question

2010-02-27 Thread MFPA
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi Robert On Saturday 27 February 2010 at 8:23:25 PM, you wrote: On Feb 27, 2010, at 3:02 PM, David Shaw wrote: With regards to the second statement, you give a great reason yourself a few paragraphs up: If you live in Cuba and you're using

Re: Re[2]: key question

2010-02-27 Thread Robert J. Hansen
And whist you have stated that you check first, you have advocated that it's OK not to. Somebody following your advice could land this hypothetical Cuban in a whole lot of trouble. The hypothetical Cuban had a lot bigger problems the instant he shared his public key with people he shouldn't

Re: Re[2]: key question

2010-02-27 Thread Robert J. Hansen
On Feb 27, 2010, at 4:10 PM, Robert J. Hansen wrote: Keep it on the list, please, and not in private mail. Oh, ack. I completely misread the To- line, and didn't see the cc: to gnupg-users. My error, and my apologies to MFPA. :) ___ Gnupg-users

Re: OFF LIST

2010-02-27 Thread MFPA
Hi Charly On Saturday 27 February 2010 at 1:29:22 PM, you wrote: I have also e-mailed Faramir directly, trying to have news. Farimir has just posted on PGPNET that he is fine, his house resisted the quake, his family are OK. Phones down so he has been unable to contact some friends. --

Fwd: Re: key question

2010-02-27 Thread Grant Olson
Doh! Originally sent off list... Maybe Robert got a psychic vibe... On 2/27/2010 2:21 PM, MFPA wrote: I don't want such a vote. Whether somebody chooses to include an email address in their UID is up to the individual. I have not seen anything that convinces me it is better for me to

Re: key question

2010-02-27 Thread John Clizbe
This may be a dup - I think the original went out with the wrong From addr MFPA wrote: Hi On Saturday 27 February 2010 at 6:11:29 AM, in mid:4b88b791.7000...@sixdemonbag.org, Robert J. Hansen wrote: In any case, I've never seen a convincing argument *for* including email addresses in the

Re: key question

2010-02-27 Thread Paul Richard Ramer
On Sat, 2010-02-27 at 19:21 +, MFPA wrote: There is a widespread perception (rightly or wrongly) that exposing your email address publicly on the internet will lead to that email address being spammed into oblivion. The new openPGP user is exhorted to create a key pair using their name and

Re: key question

2010-02-27 Thread John Clizbe
MFPA wrote: Hi On Saturday 27 February 2010 at 6:11:29 AM, in mid:4b88b791.7000...@sixdemonbag.org, Robert J. Hansen wrote: In any case, I've never seen a convincing argument *for* including email addresses in the UID of a PGP key. Nor have we seen compelling arguments for their omission

Re: key question

2010-02-27 Thread Doug Barton
On 02/27/10 14:21, John Clizbe wrote: Nor have we seen compelling arguments for their omission as a general rule I think it would be more accurate to say that we haven't seen any arguments that will sway those with strongly held beliefs on either side. Since we're not likely to see them any time

How to give the keywork from command line.

2010-02-27 Thread Mario Castelán Castro
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 February 27th 2010 in gnupg-users@gnupg.org thread Hot to give the keyword from the command line. Hi, I'm doing a bash script for pack (Tar), compress (lzip or bzip2) and encrypt (GPG with Rijndael 128) very important files, but is supposed to be

Re[2]: key question

2010-02-27 Thread MFPA
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi Robert On Saturday 27 February 2010 at 8:03:15 PM, you wrote: On Feb 27, 2010, at 2:21 PM, MFPA wrote: I have always been taught to challenge the status quo. Because that's the way we do it is *never* a good reason to continue doing

Re: Fwd: Re: key question

2010-02-27 Thread MFPA
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi Grant On Saturday 27 February 2010 at 9:54:56 PM, you wrote: It sounds like you're using the software to do the opposite thing that many people do. I think digital signatures are utilized much more than encrypted communication. I don't

Re[2]: key question

2010-02-27 Thread MFPA
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi Paul On Saturday 27 February 2010 at 11:19:43 PM, you wrote: GnuPG doesn't, at least as of 1.4.10, force you to include an e-mail address in your user ID. It merely requests an e-mail address, and you can just press enter and ignore the

Re: key question

2010-02-27 Thread Paul Richard Ramer
On Sun, 2010-02-28 at 04:33 +, MFPA wrote: Speculation is great, but speculation isn't fact -- and we need to change the way we do things based on facts, not on speculations. We can agree on facts, but our speculations will likely not overlap very much at all. I'm sure anybody

Re: key question

2010-02-27 Thread Paul Richard Ramer
I think that MFPA has succinctly summed up his point of view in these two quotes. On Sun, 2010-02-28 at 04:33 +, MFPA wrote: What you're saying here is, even if the advice were sound for one million users, and destructive to the privacy of just one, I still would not change because any

Re: Re[2]: key question

2010-02-27 Thread Robert J. Hansen
Kind of let's agree to disagree? More like, since you are reacting emotionally and refuse to even entertain the possibility of being persuaded, there is no point in continuing this conversation. I wish you a pleasant day. ___ Gnupg-users mailing

Re: How to give the keywork from command line.

2010-02-27 Thread Laurent Jumet
Hello Mario ! Mario Castel n Castro mariocastelancas...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm doing a bash script for pack (Tar), compress (lzip or bzip2) and encrypt (GPG with Rijndael 128) very important files, but is supposed to be non interactive, shouldn't ask the user for password when executed,