Re: [OT] Where can I find some papers to read on mail (and envelope) security?

2019-02-01 Thread Stefan Claas
On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 21:36:15 +0100, Michael Kesper wrote: Hi Michael, > On 30.01.19 16:33, Stefan Claas wrote: > > Interesting topic, which i am interested in as well. I started, as German > > citizen, to use also epost Brief and De-Mail a while ago, when > > communicating sometimes with

Re: [OT] Where can I find some papers to read on mail (and envelope) security?

2019-01-31 Thread Michael Kesper
Hi Stefan, On 30.01.19 16:33, Stefan Claas wrote: > Interesting topic, which i am interested in as well. I started, as German > citizen, to use also epost Brief and De-Mail a while ago, when > communicating sometimes with friends, because i like those paid > services much more than the classical

Re: [OT] Where can I find some papers to read on mail (and envelope) security?

2019-01-30 Thread Werner Koch
On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 20:44, s...@300baud.de said: > On the other side i wish PGPfone would have been further developed. > I found it, way back then, pretty cool and super easy to use, compared > to PGP or GnuPG. Please don't compare an online protocol with an offline (store+forward) protocol -

Re: [OT] Where can I find some papers to read on mail (and envelope) security?

2019-01-30 Thread Stefan Claas
On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 20:22:35 +0100, Peter Lebbing wrote: > On 30/01/2019 16:33, Stefan Claas wrote: > > Maybe one needs to use a special font ... > > Oh, most definitely. But which one ... ;-) I may check this again with a friend. > In this day and age, I'd probably look at a two-dimensional

Re: [OT] Where can I find some papers to read on mail (and envelope) security?

2019-01-30 Thread Peter Lebbing
On 30/01/2019 16:33, Stefan Claas wrote: > Maybe an additional layer of household aluminium foil should work fine. The sender could use their hat for that ;-P (SCNR) > Maybe one needs to use a special font ... Oh, most definitely. In this day and age, I'd probably look at a two-dimensional

Re: [OT] Where can I find some papers to read on mail (and envelope) security?

2019-01-30 Thread Stefan Claas
On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 13:20:01 +0100, Philipp Klaus Krause wrote: > There has been plenty of research on email security and the need for > encryption is well-known. > > However, I wonder if there has been any research on mail security. Of > course, one could just put a GPG-encrypted letter in an

[OT] Where can I find some papers to read on mail (and envelope) security?

2019-01-30 Thread Philipp Klaus Krause
There has been plenty of research on email security and the need for encryption is well-known. However, I wonder if there has been any research on mail security. Of course, one could just put a GPG-encrypted letter in an ordinary envelope, but there are more common measures that are meant to give